BS: Popular views on McCain

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Amos
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 07:07 PM

The Five Most Clearly Insane People Endorsing John McCain.


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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Stringsinger
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 04:40 PM

McCain is in an alternate reality. His economic program is silly. A spending freeze would
make the stock market drop like an anchor and keep it stuck at the bottom.

He wants to bail out investors who put us in the crisis to begin with. No tax on capital gains?
If anyone has them these days, what use is it to exempt them from taxes? Investors don't have jobs for workers.

His machinations about Iraq are story-book pipe dreams. He wants to create "democracy" there? We better do it here first.

John McCain wants to tax health care benefits after giving individuals five grand?

John McCain says he is "not Bush" and Nixon said he was not a crook.

Don't think of an elephant!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Cluin
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 09:21 PM

Anyone else cynical enough to think McCain's blowing-off the Letterman Show was a calculated ploy?

Surely the media-savvy Republican election machine ought to have known Letterman would find out he was lied to and McCain wasn't rushing back to Washington to deal with the financial crisis and instead gave an interview to Katie Couric? And that D.L. would harp on it?

All to grab some headlines during a flagging campaign and pump up the audience for the show when he DID appear and graciously admit that he "screwed up"?

Didn't hurt the Late Show's ratings that night either, did it?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Amos
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 10:28 AM

The NYT discusses why McCain failed.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Amos
Date: 20 Oct 08 - 09:03 AM

John McCain palling around with ACORN, whom he later accuses of "destroying the fabric of democracy" in one of the most mentally umoored metaphors of the current campaign.


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Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 09:09 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 09:12 PM

And if articles are really reflective of popular opinion because they are posted here, I will offer this one as an example off what Obama supporters are really like....


Of course we know that opinions and single evemts do noit reflect the entire picture, unless supported by the NYT.





McCain supporter maimed for her politics by robber; Update

posted at 4:50 pm on October 23, 2008 by Ed Morrissey


A 20-year-old woman got robbed at an ATM in a Pittsburgh suburb, and normally that would not make national news. However, her robber wanted to make a political statement as well. After seeing a McCain bumper sticker on her car, he beat the woman and scratched a "B" into her face:


"A 20-year-old woman who was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield was also maimed by her attacker, police said.
Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard tells Channel 4 Action News that the victim was robbed at knifepoint on Wednesday night outside of a Citizens Bank near Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street just before 9 p.m.
Richard said the robber took $60 from the woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the victim's car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using the knife to scratch the letter "B" into her face, Richard said."


This is a horrible story, and if it happened as alleged, I hope the man gets life in prison for both the armed robbery and the maiming. Our prayers go to the woman, who refused medical treatment at the scene, as well as our hopes for a quick and complete recovery.
However, despite the comments popping up in other threads, I don't think this says anything terribly significant about the election or either candidate. Criminals aren't known for their kindness, temperament, or intellect, and this particular criminal sounds like he's a couple of bricks short of a load even for that crowd. The initial crime had nothing to do with politics at all, so it's not an example of partisan thuggery as one would expect some to paint it.
I'm sure that the two campaigns will be sure to reach out to the woman. Someone will undoubtedly press the Obama campaign for a reaction, and will get the obligatory and emphatic denunciation that everyone would expect. We have many more important issues to debate, and many more cogent reasons to oppose Barack Obama than the offhand cruelty of one criminal in Pittsburgh.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 11:14 PM

Bruce:

In another thread, someone said the police are doubting her story. The picture that accompanied clearly shows a woman who has a black eye and markings on her face. Do you have any further data on it? It is a gruesome tale, if true.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 12:07 AM

BB--

Gruesome. And, if true, I suspect you would not find one Obama supporter on Mudcat or elsewhere who would endorse this behavior. All decent people would condemn it.

Now, are you also willing to condemn Palin's stirring up the crowds to "Kill him" and "Terrorist"--and doing nothing to denounce such reponses in her listeners?

Yes or no?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 12:12 AM

"responses"

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 12:28 AM

It's so easy to become so upset that we can't see straight. Just for purposes of lightening up a bit try this. It's called Let 'Em Eat Moose

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 12:39 AM

Well done, Stephen!!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 01:46 AM

Ron,

"Now, are you also willing to condemn Palin's stirring up the crowds to "Kill him" and "Terrorist"--and doing nothing to denounce such reponses in her listeners?

Yes or no? "

Yes,
IF she was stirring up crowds to ""Kill him" and "Terrorist"--and doing nothing to denounce such reponses in her listeners?" she was wrong to do so- but if Obama is stirring up crowds to blame McCain for the actions of Bush that McCain did not support THAT is just as wrong.


Has Obama made any statements denouncing those of his supporters that are threatening violence if Obama doers not win? There are as many of those as there were people saying """Kill him" and "Terrorist""




Yes or no?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Stephen L. Rich
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 01:50 AM

Thanks, kat.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 02:00 AM

"one Obama supporter on Mudcat"

I agree with this part

" or elsewhere who would endorse this behavior."

This is not proven- there are probably as many supporters of Obama that might do so as there are McCain supporters calling for Obama's death.


" All decent people would condemn it."

Agreed- but you presume that ALL Democrats are decent and Republicans are not.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 03:52 AM

It looks more like the person claiming she was mutilated by an Obama supporter is more indicative of what McCain supporters are like than what Obama supporters are like. As soon as I saw her story on a video at MSNBC, she set off my Susan Smith lie detectors, and I had a look around. Turns out the police are very suspicious of her story...

http://www.tmz.com/2008/10/23/politically-motivated-mutilation-real-or-hoax/

She wasn't even willing to go to the hospital, that's how traumatized she was. If the police suspicions are correct (and I think they are), this is a person who is willing to start a race war just to either A. get her candidate elected, or B. to get her fifteen minutes of fame. Either way, as with Susan Smith, doing something reprehensible and then blaming in on Black people is about as reprehensible as it is possible to get. And it is entirely in keeping with the whole ethic of the McCain campaign.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 03:57 AM

Correction: she refused medical assistance on the scene. Hmmm... I wonder why.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 08:58 AM

"Correction: she refused medical assistance on the scene. Hmmm... I wonder why."


                   She's tough, like McCain supporters always are!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 09:22 AM

Well, the police are going to administer a polygraph test. They are saying there's too many things about her story that don't add up.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 09:25 AM

The backwards B was probably their first clue.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 06:05 PM

Campaign Volunteer Faces Charges In Attack Hoax

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) ― A campaign worker who claimed she was the victim of a politically-motivated attack in which she was beaten, kicked and cut, now admits that she made the whole story up.

According to Pittsburgh police spokeswoman Diane Richard, Ashley Todd, 20, told investigators today that she "was not robbed and there was no 6'4" black male attacker."

Todd initially told police that she was robbed at an ATM in Bloomfield Wednesday night and that the suspect began beating her after seeing a John McCain bumper sticker on her car.

Todd claimed that the mugger even cut a backwards letter "B" in her check.

But today investigators say Todd confessed that the attack never happened.

At a news conference this afternoon, officials said they believe that Todd's injuries were self-inflicted.

Police investigating the report said Todd's story began to unravel early on and they administered a polygraph test.

Investigators asked Todd to return to the police station today for more questioning and to help them release a composite sketch of the suspect.

When she did, police say she admitted that she made the whole thing up and that it snowballed out of control.

Todd told investigators today that she "just wanted to tell the truth" – adding that she was neither robbed, nor attacked.

"She indicated that she has prior mental problems and that she does not remember how the backward letter B got on her face," Richard told reporters today.

Todd told police that while she did not remember how the backward "B" got on her face, she may have done it herself since she was the only one in the car.

According to police, Todd said she thought of Barack Obama when she saw the "B" in her rearview mirror.

Officials say they do not believe any other people were involved; and Todd's friends believed the story about the attack – encouraging her to call police.

Todd is now facing charge for filing a false police report.

As of late this afternoon, Todd was still in custody under observation.

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html


Are we going to see apologies from all of the McCain supporters who tried to use this story as a way to smear Obama supporters, and Obama himself? (And there are plenty who tried to do this.) I rather doubt it because there seems to be a critical shortage of people with any kind of personal integrity who are supporting McCain.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 06:16 PM

"Are we going to see apologies from all of the McCain supporters "

1. Using Amos's statement, I said that the article said... THAT is true. The article did say it.

2. I am still waiting for the apoloogies abotu the proven false claims that Bush stole the 2000 election in Florida: OI have shown that EVEN IF THE RECOUNT had been done as Gore requested, GORE would have LOST.


Still waiting....

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 08:17 PM

Bush did steal the election. Or the Republicans did. The massive voter disenfranchisement is what's responsible for the Republican victory in that election. Millions of valid voters were illegally purged from the voter rolls in more than one state in 2000, and again in 2004. And they're doing it again in 2008. The Republicans have a lot to apologize for.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 10:37 PM

BB--

OK, you're on. Let's have specifics on Obama supporters threatening violence if he does not win. And violence targeted toward specific individuals--as the "Kill him" was.
And that one is documented.

With exact sources and dates, please.

Thanks.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 10:56 PM

Flip flopping means little to me and in fact can show a deliberate thoughtfullness and ability to change ones mind when new evidence comes to bear.

But McCain has changed his vote or stand on the following issues;
torture - gave in to Bush torture bill.
abortion
immigration - for it then against his own bill.
social security
Bush permanent rich tax cuts
gay marriage
campaign finance
off shore drilling
surge troops in Afghanistan
and finally he first voted against a holiday to honor MLK

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 11:11 PM

McCain's largest problem was he was in the public spotlight for a long, long period of time. What he has going for him is, he changed his mind on various issues over a long period of time, and the circumstances changed dramatically.

                     Obama, on the other hand, changes his mind every time the wind changes direction, or he sees a political advantage for himself personally. He doesn't change his mind to the benefit of his constituents.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 11:27 PM

Well, I liked what McCain was before he started pandering to the right wing of the Republican party in his efforts to get elected. Had he remained as he used to pretend to be, he might still have my support. But he never really was what he once pretended to be, so he really never did flip flop on anything. He's always been a political opportunist and he always will be.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 11:33 PM

I just saw a map of the world that supported either McCain or Obama.
It was all blue for Obama except for Namibia, Cuba and Iraq which were Red for McCain.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Ron Davies
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 11:38 PM

This is getting just slightly tiresome: Rig--let's have just one iota of evidence to back up that last smear.

Even if you have to close down Smears R Us.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 08:45 AM

1. Campaign financing!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 09:54 AM

Rig--


That pales beside McCain (aka the Weathervane) and his flip-flops

1) immigration--now he says he'd vote against the bill he co-sponsored. Pandering to know-nothings like your good self?   Perish the thought.

2) just recently the "bail-out".   He was all over the map--trying desperately to figure out which way the wind was blowing.

3) tax cuts--against the 2003 tax cuts. Now tax cuts are the cat's meow.

4) Like the other candidates, praising GWB to the skies in the Republican debates. Now slashing GWB's record to shreds--since he's figured out that's necessary to get independent votes.



Etc.


And since we're on the subject, let's examine your own views.

1)   You were allegedly for Hillary. Yet though Obama's views and Hillary's dovetail almost completely, you are now still attacking Obama at every turn. Even though Hillary herself points this out constantly , you pay no attention.

Conclusion: you were never a real Hillary voter. In the general election you would never have voted for her-since she was in favor of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

You were just favoring her since she was the main opposition to Obama.

2)   You claim to be against organized religion. Yet you defend the only fundamentalist--Palin. And are stupidly oblivious to the threat McCain appointees will be to the church/state divide you supposedly favor.


Hence my affectionate term for you--Mr. Hypocrite


If I had to guess, I'd say that actually the reason you attack Obama--and by doing so, support McCain, since the only way to keep him out is to vote for Obama--is that you are stuffed full of prejudice.

Especially your hate and fear of Mexican immigrants dominates your thinking. Now that McCain, as I note, no longer favors a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, that makes him fine with you. You jettison any supposed other beliefs--like separation of church and state.

It's also interesting that the only black man you speak highly of is safely dead. Any live black public figure is a threat to you, and will not get your support.

And you conveniently ignore the fact that Obama himself has said his own daughters should not benefit from affirmative action programs--these programs should be at least partially economics-based, not just race-based.

The above is of course just a theory. You are welcome to try to rebut it--but your postings support it down the line.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 10:01 AM

One amendment: McCain, of course still favors a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants--but now only after the border is "secured"--a neverland conceit which pushes their citizenship well into the next century--if then.

Certainly not in our lifetimes.

And you know that--and are fine with it. In fact it sets your "mind" at rest.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 10:22 AM

"You were allegedly for Hillary. Yet though Obama's views and Hillary's dovetail almost completely, you are now still attacking Obama at every turn."


             Obama's state views are similar to Hillary's, but he's proven he can't be trusted, so what he says doesn't mean anything.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Ron Davies
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 10:32 AM

Rig--

He has proven no such thing. Except to Mr. Nowhere Man AKA Mr. Hypocrite (your good self)

And I am still awaiting any possible refutation of my theory as to the reason for your attitude.

Silence consents.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 01:02 PM

Ron - Silence does not consent. It's the only way to deal with your irrational badgering.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 01:39 PM

Ron-

Rig just wants attention. I suggest that we stop feeding him.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 02:11 PM

Here's an odd photo of McCain trying to catch up with Obama (taken from Snopes Website): click here for website

Whatever is going on in that man's mind?

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 03:12 PM

Hasn't that one been used in the USA press? I know if it had happened in a British election it would have been all over the place here. As it is most papers here did print this one, mostly without comment. Well, it doesn't really need comment...

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Alice
Date: 25 Oct 08 - 05:30 PM

John McCain tends to make funny faces a lot, especially that tongue sticking out one, but REALLY, folks... it's his political policies that should be criticized, not his expressions! Anyone can be caught in a photo making a less than flattering expression. I'm tired of the petty stuff being dredged up about both sides.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Ron Davies
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 11:38 AM

Mr. Hypocrite (AKA the CEO of Smears R Us)--"Rig"

Poor boy (you wouldn't understand Pobrecito--it's Spanish and therefore makes you blow your top--since, as I said, the main thing driving you is your hate and fear of Mexican immigrants.)   That's why you never were a real Hillary voter---since, as I said, she is in favor of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

You would never have voted for her in the general election against any Republican--for the reason I cited.

Nor do you care about the war in Iraq---or indeed anything but your hate and fear of Mexicans--and blacks, it appears.



Your hypocrisy is on brilliant display particularly when you defend Palin.

Gee, I remember you whining pathetically for years about the "evils" of organized religion. But though Palin does believe in the "end times"---and you might want to consider :Palin will be putting you in the "left behind"--your hypocrisy is such that you ignore this--and the fact that, as I said, McCain- appointed judges will be industriously tearing down the alleged wall between church and state.

All your piteous moaning about religion was just so much hot air, it's plain to see.


It has no chance against the driving force in your mind--your strong prejudice against all Mexican immigrants---which is why you are fine with McCain now that he has pushed a path to citizenship for illegals far into the next century--if then.

It actually sounds like you are in fact the perfect racist--since black people seem to bother you too--especially if they're "uppity" enough to actually have some power--and be public figures. (Unless they're dead--like MLK).

As I said, not only does silence consent, it's obvious my theory about your motivation is totally true---you can't contradict it, since you know it is.

And no matter how much people try to reason with you, you ignore anything but your own prejudices.

And your postings--for years--back it up completely.

I'd be glad to cite chapter and verse from your collected works if you care to dispute this.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 01:10 PM

...religion was just so much hot air,..


                Well, Ron, at least we can agree on that!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 04:24 PM

Obama has not changed his position on campaign financing.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Amos
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 07:54 PM

"John McCain insisted Sunday that he is making a comeback and will defeat Democrat Barack Obama, discounting the Illinois senator's lead in most national and key state polls.
As McCain fought to hold Republican-leaning states, Obama was focused on what should be his opponent's turf, spending the remaining nine days of the campaign mostly in states that President George W. Bush won four years ago.

Obama concluded a swing through the West with two rallies in Colorado, one of three states in the region _ including Nevada and New Mexico _ that are hotly contested even though McCain should have a natural advantage. He has represented neighboring Arizona in the Senate for nearly a quarter century.

Obama drew a crowd of more than 100,000 in Denver, the Colorado state capital.

"Goodness gracious," Obama said as he took the stage and peered at the human mass in Civic Center Park. People were packed in all the way up the steps of the Capitol, off in the distance.

Obama seized on McCain's statement earlier Sunday that he and Bush _ as fellow Republicans _ shared some aspects of economic philosophy.

"For eight years, we've seen the Bush-McCain philosophy put our country on the wrong track," Obama said, "and we cannot have another four years that look just like the last eight. It's time for change in Washington, and that's why I'm running for President of the United States."

He added, "We know what the Bush-McCain philosophy looks like. It's a philosophy that says we should give more and more to millionaires and billionaires and hope that it trickles down."..." (Taiwan News)

I don't think postulating a comeback is enough to make it happen.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Ron Davies
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 09:47 PM

Mr. Hypocrite:


Gee, I don't know how you could have misquoted me.   The quote, to refresh your memory, was: "All your piteous moaning about religion was just so much hot air".

And it's interesting you cannot even start to rebut my assertion that your driving force is hate and fear of Mexican immigrants and blacks who are public figures.

Since it's well established by years of your posts.

And that's the only reason why you defend Palin (and McCain).

But it's enough to make you turn your back on your supposed principles--like a concern for separation of church and state.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 10:30 PM

I just have to say that while I don't agree with the person being routinely attacked by the above Obama supporter, the behavior of the one doing the attacking makes Obama look bad. That particular Obama supporer is not helping Obama by routinely attacking people and calling them names. In fact, that person just makes Obama look bad when they do that, in the same way that the McCain supporters who call people names make McCain look bad.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Oct 08 - 11:29 PM

"...like a concern for separation of church and state...."


             There are concerns, and there are CONCERNS. In the case of Obam, who wallowed around on his knees for twenty years in front of Reverend Wright, and then announced that he intended to leave the Office of Faith Based Initiatives open if elected, the concern becomes much, much greater.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 12:30 AM

Rig:

There is no evidence Obama wallowed anywhere. Your slurs and slanders are getting hate-filled beyond all reason, and you need to check your meds, buddy.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Riginslinger
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 07:21 AM

Obama himself said he went to Wright's church for twenty years. Wallowing around on knees is what people do there.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Amos
Date: 27 Oct 08 - 09:01 AM

McCain Communications Director Gave Reporters Incendiary Version Of "Carved B" Story Before Facts Were Known
By Greg Sargent - October 24, 2008, 5:12PM

John McCain's Pennsylvania communications director told reporters in the state an incendiary version of the hoax story about the attack on a McCain volunteer well before the facts of the case were known or established -- and even told reporters outright that the "B" carved into the victim's cheek stood for "Barack," according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions.

John Verrilli, the news director for KDKA in Pittsburgh, told TPM Election Central that McCain's Pennsylvania campaign communications director gave one of his reporters a detailed version of the attack that included a claim that the alleged attacker said, "You're with the McCain campaign? I'm going to teach you a lesson."

Verrilli also told TPM that the McCain spokesperson had claimed that the "B" stood for Barack. According to Verrilli, the spokesperson also told KDKA that Sarah Palin had called the victim of the alleged attack, who has since admitted the story was a hoax.

The KDKA reporter had called McCain's campaign office for details after seeing the story -- sans details -- teased on Drudge.

The McCain spokesperson's claims -- which came in the midst of extraordinary and heated conversations late yesterday between the McCain campaign, local TV stations, and the Obama camp, as the early version of the story rocketed around the political world -- is significant because it reveals a McCain official pushing a version of the story that was far more explosive than the available or confirmed facts permitted at the time.

The claims to KDKA from the McCain campaign were included in an early story that ran late yesterday on KDKA's Web site. The paragraphs containing these assertions were quickly removed from the story after the Obama campaign privately complained that KDKA was letting the McCain campaign spin a racially-charged version of the story before the facts had been established, according to two sources familiar with the discussions.

The story with the removed grafs is still right here. We preserved the three missing grafs from yesterday:


A source familiar with what happened yesterday confirmed that the unnamed spokesperson was communications director Peter Feldman. Feldman was also quoted yesterday making virtually identical assertions on the Web site of another local TV station, WPXI. But those quotes, which we also preserved here, are also no longer available on WPXI's site, for reasons that are unclear.

From "Talking POints Memo.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular views on McCain
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 07:21 AM

"John McCain insisted Sunday that he is making a comeback and will defeat Democrat Barack Obama,..."



                        Thank gawd!