BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: GUEST,goatfell
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 03:04 PM

I'm sorry but I wish people would read books from Austrlia, because I ahve an Austrlaian dicanty (spelling) and it tells you all about the word pom and what it means and stands for.

But that's just me

A Scot and NOT A POM

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 04:26 PM

Bubblyrat - I have that book - fascinating, isn't it! Made more poignant for me because I now live only a mile or so from the stretch of the Thames (Gallions Reach) where that ship moored. It still stinks down there, but that's now because of the sewage works, but it's possible to imagine what it would have been like back then.

In Dorset, there is a bridge, leading into the county town of Dorchester, that has an iron plaque on it. This plaque states that anyone found wilfully damaging the bridge will be subject to transportation for life.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 07:42 PM

Goatfell - does it not occur to you that even if an Australian dictionary says 'pom' means 'prisoner of mother England', it doesn't mean it's true. The dictionary presumably doesn't provide any evidence to support the statement whereas you, in your post from Wikipedia, have shown that there is no visual or documentary evidence for it. You just want to believe it because you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about anything English.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Gurney
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 09:58 PM

I once read a book -well, haven't you?- which recorded an Oz cockie watching an immigrant ship coming in, and saying "Another load of Pomeranians!"

Pomeranian: A breed of small, yapping dog. Abbreviation Pom.

Goatfell, would you run your post of 12:55 past us again, please?

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Bert
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 11:44 PM

The English tell jokes about the Irish.
Australians tell jokes about the English.
Americans tell jokes about the Polish.
Canadians tell jokes about Newfies.
Texans tell true stories about Aggies. (and they're all the same stories.)

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 03:03 AM

Jarmans History from 1846 declares that POHMs were 'Prisoners Of His Majesty' and that POHM was printed onto the backs of the smocks that prisoners were transported in... I did say that before I know but the point I want to make is that no-one seems to know for sure if it is to do with pomegranates.....prisoners of mother England or prisoners of His Majesty. Different sources obviously state different theories.
Best wishes, Mike.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 04:35 AM

The wisdom according to Barry McKenzie, ' sheilas come accross if bastards say they love them '

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 05:31 AM

Georgiansilver - would the Jarman you refer to be the William Jarman who eventually settled in the Olympic Peninsula of Washington State? If so, he was hardly an historian in the accepted sense of the term. He was rather like 'Buffalo Bill', much given to creating his own mythology. Given the lack of real evidence, e.g. photos, surviving smocks, or offical documents from the period using the the 'P.O.H.M', I suspect it's alleged origins is one of those apocryphal stories, rather like 'posh' supposedly meaning 'port outwards, starboard home.'

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 06:31 AM

No this man was English......

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 06:36 AM

The William Jarman I'm referring to was English, born in 1820 at Gravesend.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: skipy
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 03:15 PM

"there so much BO about, that cinema audiences had to be sprayed with perfume."
Since the smoking ban most night clubs have started spraying again!
Skipy
(don't even bother to go there!)

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 05:59 PM

Sign at entrance to lion park:

Admission $5
Children $2

Pommies on bicycles admitted free.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 06:00 PM

How do you know the aircraft on the tarmac has come from England?

The whining doesn't stop when they turn off the engines.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: GUEST,jungleclown
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 05:07 AM

If a male and a female pommie jump off a cliff at the same time, who will hit the ground first?
Who gives a shit..........

Why do all the tree's in France lean towards England? Because England Sucks.....

Why do pigeons fly upside down over England? Because England aint worth shitting on......

If all the English were to leave australia and swim back home it will increase the IQ of both countries.......

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: goatfell
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 10:53 AM

GUEST,jungleclown - PM
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 05:07 AM

If a male and a female pommie jump off a cliff at the same time, who will hit the ground first?
Who gives a shit..........

Why do all the tree's in France lean towards England? Because England Sucks.....

Why do pigeons fly upside down over England? Because England aint worth shitting on......

If all the English were to leave australia and swim back home it will increase the IQ of both countries.......

and then you wonder why I say the poms are English and yet you lot say it's not the explain this please I thought is was a bout Britian some of you will say but it is about England and the English, not Scotland,Wales or Ireland is it.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: goatfell
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 10:54 AM

I feel really jeslous about Austrlia, im mean u=nlike you lot we have to live next door to them, and yet you Aussies are thousands ofm iles away from them, think yourselves lucky

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 19 Dec 08 - 11:04 AM

It's not about who you think the Poms are, it's about who the Aussies think the Poms are. If they say Poms include Jocks then that's it, you're included in the jokes about whinging immigrants, where best to hide your valuables (under the soap) etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 20 Dec 08 - 09:17 AM

Bloody descendants of criminals that's all the Ozzies are.

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Amergin
Date: 20 Dec 08 - 04:11 PM

Christ, Goatfell, you're whinging is only pointing the truth about some of these jokes.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: fumblefingers
Date: 21 Dec 08 - 12:44 AM

Hrothgar

"Sign at entrance to lion park:
Admission $5
Children $2
Pommies on bicycles admitted free."

I actually saw that sign at a wildlife park north of Perth, WA. Maybe it's a requirement under Aussie law.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: nager
Date: 21 Dec 08 - 07:50 PM

An Englishman went to a brain surgeon because he wanted to be turned into an American. "To do that I need to remove about 25 per cent of your brain," said the surgeon. The Englishman agreed. After the operation the surgeon confessed to the patient that he had mistakenley cut out 50 per cent of his brain.
"No worries, she's right mate," the patient said...

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: GUEST,Declan Saunders
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 05:01 PM

'Pom' comes from 'POHM'-Prisoner Of His (or Her) Majesty, ie, jailbirds from Britain, which DOES include the Scots, Welsh & Irish. I always fall over laughing when the Ozzies call us Brits. They don't seem to realise that they're all descended from the lowlife!!

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Rasener
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 06:02 PM

Goatfell
Why is it when we English crack jokes about the Scots, Irish or Welsh, we are considered as rascist.

But you can post what you like about the English and get away with it.

I remember posting jokes about the Welsh on a forum (in humour), becuase the guy was going on about how good the Welsh were at rugby and they would beat England. as it was, Wales got hammered. Soo I posted a load of sheep jokes LOL. Hwoever I got a bollocking for being rascist. what a load of bollocks.

Another time something cropped up about the Irish, so in good humour I posted a few Irish jokes and got accused of being rascist and had my post removed.

I happen to think that jokes are great no matter who the nation is. I have found the jokes above hilarious and in no way rascist towards the English.

Unfortunately we have become the victims of the politically correct brigade, who have taken the stuffing out of all forms of life almost to the point we daren't fart anymore. These PC prats wouldn't know what rascism is, they are so far up their arses.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Cllr
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 06:50 PM

i thought Everyone knows "pom" is an abreviation of whinging pommie ba****D who cant find the soap.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Cllr
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 06:50 PM

from random website

From Rosemary Wetherall: "Is pom short for Port of Melbourne (where the ships docked), Prisoners Of her Majesty, as they were convict ships, or did we all really look like a cargo of pomegranates when we caught the sun? Or is it simply rhyming slang for immigrant?"

[A] You've done a great job of listing many of the explanations that one comes across for the origin of this Australian term for British immigrants. You could have added a possible derivation from Prisoner of Mother England, from the common naval slang term for Portsmouth, Pompey, or from pommes de terres for potatoes, much eaten by British troops in World War One, or an abbreviation for Permit of Migration. All of them except your last two, I have to tell you, are folk etymology (which, for some reason I've never understood, loves to invent origins based on acronyms).

Part of the reason for all these theories growing up is that there was for decades much doubt over the true origin of the expression, with various Oxford dictionaries, for example, continuing to say that there is no firm evidence for the pomegranate theory. That origin was described by D H Lawrence in his Kangaroo of 1923: "Pommy is supposed to be short for pomegranate. Pomegranate, pronounced invariably pommygranate, is a near enough rhyme to immigrant, in a naturally rhyming country. Furthermore, immigrants are known in their first months, before their blood 'thins down', by their round and ruddy cheeks. So we are told". You will note that he had to explain the pronunciation that we would now take to be the usual one: in standard English it used not to have the first "e" sounded, with pome often rhyming with home.

It is now pretty well accepted that the pomegranate theory is close to the truth, though there's a slight twist to take note of. H J Rumsey wrote about it in 1920 in the introduction to his book The Pommies, or New Chums in Australia. He suggested that the word began life on the wharves in Melbourne as a form of rhyming slang. An immigrant was at first called a Jimmy Grant (was there perhaps a famous real person by that name around at the time?), but over time this shifted to Pommy Grant, perhaps as a reference to pomegranate, because the new chums did burn in the sun. Later pommy became a word on its own and was frequently abbreviated still further. The pomegranate theory was also given some years earlier in The Anzac Book of 1916.

Whatever your beliefs about this one, what seems to be true is that the term is not especially old, dating from the end of the nineteenth century at the earliest, certainly not so far back as convict ship days.

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: nager
Date: 22 Dec 08 - 10:20 PM

A young man decided to emigrate from Britain to Australia against the wishes of his parents who warned him "that's where all the criminals are sent". After a couple of successful years in Oz he married a delightful young Australian woman. Shortly after the wedding he asked her if she would like to visit Britain to meet his family. "No bloody way," she said. " I've heard that place has too many criminals."

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 02:34 AM

Ewan MacColl recalled how his father was deported back to England from Australia and said " let's face it, that's an acheivement "

eric

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Folk Form # 1
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 03:36 AM

I am thinking of starting up an anti Jew thread. Anyone up for it?

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 04:03 AM

we have become the victims of the politically correct brigade

Get a friggin' grip, ya whinging pom!

Subject: RE: BS: Any anti-Pom jokes?
From: Mr Red
Date: 23 Dec 08 - 07:12 AM

and the reason an Australian haircut costs 4 dollars?

And why no "difference between a yoghurt & Australia" jokes?























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