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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Alice Date: 15 Jul 10 - 11:24 PM The gecko accent is a joke used in their recent ad: "British... I thought you were Australian!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jul 10 - 12:19 AM I'm sorry, Richard, but it was a BP executive who told the drilling crew that the drilling was taking too long and costing too much, and ordered them to speed up the drilling. When the crew objected, saying that it would not be safe to do so, he insisted, and threatened to fire them and bring in another crew unless they followed his orders. So they obeyed his orders and what they feared might happen did! Reported by a man who was there, and damn near died when the rig blew up. That's what happened. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jul 10 - 12:24 AM Get off your high horse, Richard. Bigotry has nothing to do with it. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Richard Bridge Date: 16 Jul 10 - 03:33 AM Well, it looks as if BP have capped it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10657088 And in comparison with all the attacks on BRITISH Petroleum for screwing it up do I hear anyone praising BRITISH expertise in getting the cap working? All President Obama says is that it is "a positive sign". |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Arthur_itus Date: 16 Jul 10 - 05:13 AM Agreed Richard Obama is an A******e He hasn't got the grace to show any encouragement to BP. That is IMHO, not the way most Americans behave. They are normally very helpful and encouraging (even if it is a disaster). |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Teribus Date: 16 Jul 10 - 06:48 AM I'm sorry, Richard, but it was a BP executive who told the drilling crew that the drilling was taking too long and costing too much, and ordered them to speed up the drilling. What relevance this has to what happened escapes me. IIRC the well was being temporarliy capped to let the drilling rig move off so that a production manifold could be put in place. If that was the case then the drilling would have been completed days before, therefore how fast the hole was drilled doesn't enter into it. What failed was the cement job to cap the well (Halliburton) and the BOP (Cameron/Transocean) |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Greg F. Date: 16 Jul 10 - 07:33 AM ...BRITISH expertise in getting the cap working? Ya mean the one that should have worked months ago? Or the one that they don't know is going to continue to work as yet? |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Teribus Date: 16 Jul 10 - 08:32 AM When the crew objected, saying that it would not be safe to do so, he insisted, and threatened to fire them and bring in another crew unless they followed his orders. So they obeyed his orders and what they feared might happen did! So a BP executive (whatever is supposed to be meant by that - I have worked offshore on many rigs and never seen any Oil Company Executives onboard them) threatenned to fire Transocean employees? How was he going to do that? Not really a logical step even if the executive could fire the employees of another company, I mean lets face it if his complaint was the time they were taking, his threat to fire them would mean halting operations, casting round to find another crew, get them out there and up to speed in operating an unfamiliar rig, that is an enormous amount of time simply wasted, sorry not a very credible threat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Richard Bridge Date: 16 Jul 10 - 10:20 AM I'm reminded of the late unlamented Robert Maxwell who paid off a person he found smoking on company premises - only to have the person reveal that he worked for someone else, pocket the money, and walk! |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don Firth Date: 16 Jul 10 - 05:42 PM Sorry, guys, but for some years now, BP has had a considerably less than admirable safety record. CLICKY #1. And Teribus, just because you haven't had the experience doesn't mean that it didn't happen on the Deepwater Horizon rig. So both of you—Teribus and Richard—read the story and watch these two videos and inform yourselves. Sorry about the commercials, but the interviews with Mike Williams and the others are very informative and quite revealing. CLICKY #2. (Williams didn't say "BP executive." He said, "BP manager" and "BP company man."). It occurs to me that, considering a couple of mishaps that had taken place earlier with the drilling, there is a certain touch of the song "Waist Deep in the Big Muddy" about this oil blowout. The question, "Who was ultimately in charge?" BP. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 16 Jul 10 - 06:23 PM Who fabricated the containment caps? Who designed them? Just temporary measures, but this hasn't been mentioned in the press or at least I haven't found it. Going to be years before the people who depend on the Gulf for their livlihood get back to normal. Similarly much wildlife. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 18 Jul 10 - 09:00 PM Associated Press- A federal official said Sunday that scientists are concerned about a seep and possible methane seen near BP's busted well. The official said BP is not complying with the government's demand for more monitoring. An announcement is expected tomorrow. The Huffington Post reports that if Adm. Allen "doesn't get the response he wants, the testing could stop." "Gulf Oil Seep: Methane, Leak Suspected near BP's Blown Out Oil Well." www.huffingtonpost.com |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Bill D Date: 18 Jul 10 - 09:28 PM "...anyone praising BRITISH expertise in getting the cap working?" Several reports say they used off-the-shelf technology and equipment that could have been used weeks ago. Got an hour, Richard Bridge? Or even 30-40 minutes? (that will get you thru all but the Q&A part.) Watch this video on how deep water wells are done- and differences between how Shell & BP do it...then tell me about 'expertise'. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 18 Jul 10 - 10:00 PM Thanks for linking the Shell-BP comparison video- It is well-presented. As I remarked in this or the other thread, it is unusual for engineers of a major to denigrate the work of another major and sometime partner. There is now worry that the oil is not contained, that there is gas coming up from below. An announcement expected Monday. Somehow BP reminds me of the drunken guest who barffed on the carpet and said, "Oh, well, it isn't my carpet." The BP errors will take years to correct. Shore rock around Prince William Sound still hides leaked oil, and organisms important for the basal food chain are scarce. Small seabirds are still uncommon, and the herring harvest has been lost. Millions of people are affected by the situation in the Gulf. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Richard Bridge Date: 19 Jul 10 - 03:37 AM The point is this. Something goes wrong - and the USAians say "BRITISH Petroleum". Something goes right, and they say "Oh, someone else did that". I suspect that what Shell are doing is trying to drive BP's share price down to try to get a cheap takeover possibility. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: catspaw49 Date: 19 Jul 10 - 07:13 AM Your shirt stuffing is soggy and drooping Richard. Why do I suspect that if the name was French Petroleum you'd be all over them like white on rice? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 19 Jul 10 - 01:33 PM Yes, Richard, most Americans would like to see BP sliced and diced; taken over by one or several companies. Apache has backed away from bidding for the Alaskan segment. A difficulty is that under American law, they would also become for some of BP's liabilities, which may reach $100 billion. Unfortunately only a fraction of this amount will ever be paid. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 19 Jul 10 - 02:06 PM become liable.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Donuel Date: 19 Jul 10 - 03:52 PM I was asked not to divulge any of these rumored facts last month so not to jeopardize the source or agency involved: The area of the deep horizon site has a fifteen mile radius of armed security which is ordered to repel any unauthorized water or air craft from any investigation by BP orders enforcable by the US Coast Guard. The rumor was that six miles from the broken riser is a large ocean floor rift which is pouring out oil and methane gas at pressures up to 4,000 psi. Today there are reports tht a "seep of oil from the ocean floor" exists a couple miles from the drilling site. The drilling pipes that may have burst are only 7 inches diameter at the bottom end and are gradually expanded to pipes well over a foot wide that surround the drilling pipe. When the numerous methane kicks (explosions) burst the blow out preventers prior to the rig exploding and sinking, it is easy to assume that the methane bursts had also burst the pipes beneath the sea. The relief drilling will be of no use unless it contacts pipe with no breaks beneath the intersection. This means that the success of the relief wells that are now in progress is very unlikely. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don Firth Date: 19 Jul 10 - 04:31 PM Richard, as an American, I can say that, for quite some time, BP had a pretty good reputation in this country. The general attitude was, if anything, a sort of reverse bigotry. "They must be pretty good. It's a British company." This, as contrasted with companies such as Exxon, with the Prince William Sound spill, and a number of other oil companies who had pretty well established that they were not very well "house trained." But within recent years, BP's shoddy safety record, due mainly to their cost-cutting and safety short-cuts, has—quite understandably and quite rightly—undercut their previously good reputation. To try to claim that Americans are bigoted against BP simply because it is a British oil company is disingenuous. Consistent with their recent abysmal safety record and an almost predictable result of their recent company policies, BP fouled up. To claim that, merely because it is a British-based company, holding BP responsible for their foul-up is "bigotry" is sheer nonsense. Among other things, no one is holding the British people responsible for this. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Bill D Date: 19 Jul 10 - 05:03 PM "I suspect that what Shell are doing..." What Shell IS doing.... a company is an entity over here, just as a sports team is....and takes the singular. ☺ But that aside, Richard....did you bother to watch the video? It is as fair and neutral as possible. Shell is just pointing out that there ARE serious differences between good and bad techniques of well safety. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 19 Jul 10 - 05:42 PM Digression- That plural bothers some Brits as well, although it is required in BBC broadcasts, etc. And not just hupper class usage. The Army are, Manchester are, BP are, etc. Not heard in Canada. Used in Australia? |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: mousethief Date: 19 Jul 10 - 11:58 PM To claim that, merely because it is a British-based company, holding BP responsible for their foul-up is "bigotry" is sheer nonsense. Among other things, no one is holding the British people responsible for this. Stop being reasonable. That's clearly not wanted here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: mandotim Date: 20 Jul 10 - 04:45 AM The BP disaster is just revenge for the dietary pollution caused by MacDonalds. Probably similar amounts of oils involved too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 20 Jul 10 - 09:33 PM ""To try to claim that Americans are bigoted against BP simply because it is a British oil company is disingenuous. Consistent with their recent abysmal safety record and an almost predictable result of their recent company policies, BP fouled up. To claim that, merely because it is a British-based company, holding BP responsible for their foul-up is "bigotry" is sheer nonsense. Among other things, no one is holding the British people responsible for this."" I'll swallow that on the day that some American authority says that Transocean, and Halliburton, and others responsible for associated hardware, bear some responsibility. From all that I'm hearing they have been allowed to head for the hills unopposed, while the whole blame is loaded on the British Company. I am well aware just where the buck stops, but there should, nonetheless, be action taken against those lower down the chain of command, particularly those who were operating the rig when the fire occurred. Such action is conspicuously absent. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Jul 10 - 09:46 PM Robert Kaluza, apparently the head BP man on the rig, refuses to testify, invoking the Fifth Amendment. Further actions may be and should be taken against him and others if they refuse to testify for Congressional Committees. Rumors are he was the one who made the decision on the mud. An article in the Los Angeles Times July 19, but Kaluza had already announced his stand in April. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Teribus Date: 21 Jul 10 - 01:30 AM Your oil seepage apparently has got bugger all to do with the well now they say. Why do Americans (Media and Senate) run around like headless chickens when faced with any crisis? Why is the default position always the blame game instead of dealing with the matter in hand? (9/11 & Katrina being two previous prime examples). Moratorium on deep sea drilling? fair enough if you lot used less and paid more for it. It happens to be a different way of stating to the world - We'll use up your oil first While BP is responsible the blame attaches to Haliburton; Transocean; Cameron and the US Regulators from what I can see. None of it will ever be paid Q? Don't you believe it, that stated on another British trait - We pay our bills. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 21 Jul 10 - 01:48 AM As you can see, and as Donuel, and Don Firth has posted, more and more is coming out, about pressures, methane, and more seepage, as I've posted originally. I haven't been on here much, since, because I figured (and correctly so) that time would prove my earlier reports to be accurate. What I've heard now, as of recent, is there is a sick game being played out, between the administration, and BP in regards to the cap. The cap was hurriedly put in place, because after it was 'put on', and poorly so, the responsibility now shifts over to the government, as to the responsibility and liability..even if it fails, and away from BP...so any further damages will be at our cost..not BP'S. The government is trying to allow it on,long enough to appear as if there is some success(somewhere), but is making noises about wanting it removed, for some work on it...which might not have a good outcome...and for that call, they don't want to appear responsible. Yes folks, you heard it here!..oh, and by the way.....its accurate. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 21 Jul 10 - 04:04 PM They dumped Tony Hayward- he will be gone in a few weeks. It will be impossible for BP to ever pay all the claims, which will total more that the company is worth. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Greg F. Date: 21 Jul 10 - 05:01 PM What's Tony's severance package, on top of his last years' 45 Million annual salary? My heart goes out to him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Bill D Date: 21 Jul 10 - 06:47 PM "What's Tony's severance package..." He...um... "gets his life back" |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 21 Jul 10 - 10:32 PM Tony Boy's pay last year was roughly $1 million, plus c. $1 million bonus. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 22 Jul 10 - 12:33 AM Just for you!!! Black Water Enjoy! GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Jul 10 - 01:06 PM I don't find anything remotely humorous about the Gulf catastrophe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don Firth Date: 22 Jul 10 - 04:00 PM A bit of historical perspective: On 18 March, 1967 the "Torrey Canyon" struck Pollard's Rock in the Seven Stones reef between the Scilly Isles and Land's End, England. She was the first of the big supertankers, carrying a cargo of 120,000 tons of oil. 31,000,000 gallons of oil leaked from the ship and spread over the sea and up the English Channel, killing most of the marine life it touched along the whole of the south coast of Britain and the Normandy shores of France, blighting the region for many years thereafter. Because nobody had planned for this, all sorts of emergency measures were attempted, many of which made matters worse; lots of chemical dispersants were eventually sprayed onto the oil slicks, but these were more lethal for life than the original oil. About the ship: 1. The ship was built in the United States in 1959 and was owned by Union Oil, an American company.The governments of both England and France brought suit against Union Oil, the American company, because they were the owners of the Torrey Canyon—despite the fact that the ship had been chartered to BP and was manned by an Italian crew, and at the time of the disaster, Union Oil had no control over the running of the ship!! In the meantime, because the ship was registered in Liberia, a Liberian Board of Inquiry investigated the incident and found the captain of the Torrey Canyon, Capt. Pastrengo Rugiati of Genoa, Italy, guilty of "a high degree of negligence." This determination of responsibility was ignored. And Union Oil was blamed for the disaster. So— In the Gulf oil disaster, there were indeed subcontractors working for BP, but it was a BP manager who issued the order to speed up the drilling. The crew of the Deepwater Horizon objected, saying that it would be dangerous to do so. The BP manager insisted, implying that if they didn't follow instructions, they would be fired and another drilling crew hired. In fact, BP managers interfered with safe and established drilling procedures on several occasions, on the basis that it was going too slow and costing too much. People ought to learn the facts before they start popping off about who's responsible for what, and accusing others of bigotry when they expect compensation from the ones who really are responsible, instead of trying to shift blame to those who had no control over what was going on at the time of the disaster. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: GUEST,Rev. Goose 'Goof' Gander (ret.) Date: 22 Jul 10 - 04:26 PM Oh, Don, you're such a bigot! |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don Firth Date: 22 Jul 10 - 06:42 PM Oh, yeah. Have the poor taste to point out whose face the egg is really on and you're a bigot for sure. . . . (I don't recognize your name, but your voice sounds kinda familiar.) Don Firth) |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 22 Jul 10 - 08:26 PM Storm Bonnie on the way- hope it changes direction. The well will be capped and closed, but drilling of relief wells will cease, and ships come to shore for 10-14 days. Oil in the Gulf could be blown onshore. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 23 Jul 10 - 02:48 AM Q; "I don't find anything remotely humorous about the Gulf catastrophe." Neither do I. Ridicule dishonors, more than dishonor itself! The satire is toward both BP and the corruption in our government. GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 23 Jul 10 - 07:41 AM ""People ought to learn the facts before they start popping off about who's responsible for what, and accusing others of bigotry when they expect compensation from the ones who really are responsible, instead of trying to shift blame to those who had no control over what was going on at the time of the disaster."" So what you want then, is revenge for the time when the boot was on the other foot? Union oil was wrongly blamed for one disaster, so BP must be blamed for this one? The contractors got away with it before, so the same must happen now? Ninety percent of the time I agree with your perspectives, which is why I am so disappointed to find that you believe two wrongs DO make a right. BP must of course shoulder the responsibility for poor safety policy, but, as has been pointed out, the drilling was over, and Transocean were operating the rig during the changeover to a pumping rig. Transocean are being shielded from the proper consequences, as are the makers and installers of the BOP. This is wrong!...Just as wrong as the Torrey Canyon decision. But hey, if payback is all that's important, go for it! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: GUEST,Vic Date: 23 Jul 10 - 08:39 AM It's simply a waste of time talking to Keith A. He defends the murderous British army and their football thugs in uniform who walked the streets of the North of Ireland shooting children with plastic bullets and murdering people in Derry attending a Civil Rights march. Keith has the bit between his teeth against the Irish due to an incident in Manchester city centre in the early 90's. A young tart who was living with him went into the city that day shopping. She wasn't anywhere near the two operational sites, but came back to T.A. Keith crying. So this is all down to the fact he was slipping this girl a length on the quiet and she was upset. He is a very sad example of an older man chasing young skirt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: GUEST,Rev. Goose 'Goof' Gander (ret.) Date: 23 Jul 10 - 12:32 PM Don Firth, I'm afraid you are suffering from irony deficiency today. Let me speak as clearly and simply as I possibly can: I agree with your post. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jul 10 - 02:51 PM Don T., most of the time I agree with the viewpoints you express. But in this case, you are misinterpreting—distorting—what I said. I am not advocating anything like revenge for the Torrey Canyon incident. To claim that this is what I am saying is disingenuous, and it's unworthy of you. I am pointing up the predilection many people, particularly companies, have to blame someone else so they can disavow their obvious responsibility when it is they who have screwed up. The cause of the Torrey Canyon oil spill was an incompetent captain. Yet both the British and the French governments, sued Union Oil, which had no control over, hence no responsibility for, the shipwreck. Why? Because that's where the money was!!! The Gulf oil spill is an entirely different situation. You, Richard Bridge, and a few others seem to want to blame anybody but BP for causing the disaster. True, there were subcontractors, whom you want to blame, when it was BP management who were complaining that the drilling was taking too long and costing too much money, so they order the drilling crew to speed things up. When the drilling crew objected, saying it was not safe to do so, the BP paper-pushing desk jockeys threatened to replace them. In the light of this, I would say that if the subcontractor bears any responsibility, it is in that they should have refused and threatened to quit. No revenge, Don T. Put the responsibility where it really belongs. I resent your attempt to warp what I have said. Don Firth P. S. And thank you, Rev. Goose. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 23 Jul 10 - 06:43 PM ""True, there were subcontractors, whom you want to blame, when it was BP management who were complaining that the drilling was taking too long and costing too much money, so they order the drilling crew to speed things up. When the drilling crew objected, saying it was not safe to do so, the BP paper-pushing desk jockeys threatened to replace them."" Like most of the others on this thread, you are ignoring the fact that drilling was over! Please explain the relevance of BP's insistence on faster drilling, when, after drilling had finished and the drill been removed, the blowout preventer (Not made or installed by BP) failed, and the rig which was under the control of Transocean at that point, blew up. I have repeatedly said that BP bear ultimate responsibility, but, Transocean and Halliburton should not be allowed to walk away Scot free. The situation is analogous with the Torrey Canyon affair, in that in both cases, those dirctly involved walked away untouched, while the buck stops with the major contractor who made the mistake of employing them. BP immediately announced that they would foot the total bill, but your Media had to put the boot in out of their usual motive. "Screw the truth, sell copy" Those same vultures will be nowhere in sight when the leak is stopped, and BP is spending the next ten years working to repair the harm. After all, GOOD news sells no papers. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: mousethief Date: 23 Jul 10 - 07:01 PM After all, GOOD news sells no papers. What kind of good news is in this? Especially in the early days when all the things you mention happened? |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Ebbie Date: 23 Jul 10 - 09:05 PM If what is being testified now is true, there is plenty of blame to go around. "The rig's history of mechanical errors was documented in a confidential audit conducted by BP seven months before the explosion and reviewed by The New York Times. According to the September 2009 document, four BP officials discovered that Transocean, the rig's owner, had left 390 repairs undone, including many that were "high priority," and would require a total of more than 3,500 hours of labor. It is unclear how many of the problems remained by the day of the catastrophe. "The 60-page audit found that previously reported errors had been ignored by Transocean. "Consequently, a number of the recommendations that Transocean had indicated as closed out had either deteriorated again or not been suitably addressed in the first place," investigators wrote. "In a statement, BP said it had expected Transocean to take the audit seriously. "The goal is to have the contractor address all safety critical items in a prompt manner," the statement said. "As we have previously said, the Deepwater Horizon tragedy had multiple potential causes, including equipment failure." Lots More |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jul 10 - 09:12 PM Don T., I think you have the sequence of events mixed up. I have an acquaintance who has worked on such oil rigs and is following this with both great interest and much expertise. I'll check with him and be back in a day or two. In the meantime, Attorney General Eric Holder is naming ,all three, BP, Transocean (owner of the Deepwater Horizon), and Haliburton, as liable in the Gulf oil spill. That works for me. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 23 Jul 10 - 09:44 PM Previous reports in the NY Times detailed BP's mistakes. And as noted before, Robert Kaluza, BP's top man on the rig, has invoked the Fifth Amendment and so far refused to testify. The forthcoming Criminal investigation by Congress will show, as Ebbie notes, that there will be blame to go around. Certainly Transoceans own reports are very damaging to their image. Don T., it would help if you got the timeline straight. From the selection of light-weight drill pipe to the handling of the drilling mud to the failure to properly test the BOP on the rig (not done fully since 2000), etc. this well, as one Transocean employee had told his wife, was the well from Hell. He was killed in the explosion. And yes, the regulatory agency was derelict in its duty and the head was fired. We can hope that the reorganized agency will work. I expect the accumulation of reports and subsequent hearings to go on for a long time. Loss of tourist dollars over the next three years is now estimated at $23 billion alone, more than BP is trying to raise to pay damages. According to a new study launched by the U. S. Travel Assn. and facilitated by Oxford Economics "the region is on the precipice of unimaginable tourism losses and financial ruin. July 23, 2010, "Gulf Girds for $22.7 Billion Tourism loss..." Glenn Haussman. http://www.hotelinteractive.com/article.aspx?articleid=17659 |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: GUEST, heric Date: 23 Jul 10 - 10:34 PM Dang, George W should have gone in and finished the job. |
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Subject: RE: BS: US bigots attack British Company (oil spill) From: mousethief Date: 23 Jul 10 - 10:43 PM Q: And yes, the regulatory agency was derelict in its duty and the head was fired. We can hope that the reorganized agency will work. Not if the Republicans get back in office and quietly return to "business as normal" à la 2007. |
