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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 03 Aug 14 - 10:43 AM Hamas does not have any Christian or atheist members. You just made that up. There is no Palestinian Army. Hamas has its own fighters, who killed many non-Hamas Palestinians when they seized power. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: bobad Date: 03 Aug 14 - 10:45 AM "Hamas is a political party" So was the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the Nazi Party. Do you have a "thing" for them too? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 03 Aug 14 - 10:52 AM The son of a Hamas leader did become a Christian. "Mr Yousef said that his doubts about Islam and Hamas crystallised when he realised not all Hamas leaders were like his father, a moderate who he describes as "open-minded, very humble and honest". Mr Yousef said that he was appalled by the brutality of the movement, including the suicide bombers seeking glory through jihad. "Hamas, they are using civilians' lives, they are using children, they are using the suffering of people every day to achieve their goals. And this is what I hate," he said. " http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/2613399/Mosab-Hassan-Yousef-son-of-Hamas-leader-becomes-a-Christian.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: pdq Date: 03 Aug 14 - 11:52 AM "The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1928 by Hassan al-Banna. The Muslim Brotherhood main branch, based in Egypt, has financed terrorist attacks worldwide that have killed Americans and others. The Brotherhood attacks Christians, women, and other religious minorities, in the name of Allah to fulfill al-Banna's vision of "fighting the unbelievers…to dismantle the power of the enemies of Islam." The methods al-Banna suggested to advance jihad included "beating them, plundering their wealth, destroying their places of worship, and smashing their idols." Al-Banna also said "it is the nature of Islam to dominate, not to be dominated" and to "impose its law on nations and to extend its power to the entire planet." Hamas, of recent Gaza fame, self identifies as "one of the wings of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine" and was designated as a terrorist organization in 1995 by President Clinton. The Kuwaiti branch of the Muslim Brotherhood was designated as a terrorist organization by President Bush shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks. The 9/11 Commission reported that the Islamization of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, and 1993 World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef, were during their membership in the Muslim Brotherhood. Majid Al-Zindani, who worked for years with Osama Bin Laden, was designated as a terrorist by the United States in February 2004. Al-Zindani was not only a member but a leader in the Yemeni branch of the Brotherhood. Mohammad Jamal Khalifa, who was Osama Bin Laden's brother in law, was a Muslim Brotherhood leader who supported the Islamic terrorists waging an insurgent campaign in the Philippines. The Muslim Brotherhood has participated in "terror conferences" with groups such as Al-Qaeda, Iranian intelligence, Egyptian Islamic Jihad (led by current Al Qaeda leader Ayman Al-Zawahiri), Algerian GIA, Hamas (the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood), Ennahdha (the Tunisian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood), and the Islamic Action Front (the Jordanian Branch of the Muslim Brotherhood)." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Richard Bridge Date: 03 Aug 14 - 02:31 PM Hamas has a genuine grievance in that from the tiny area of the Levant occupied by Jews prior to 1948, and on the demands of Zionist terrorist organisations, whose leaders went on to become the leaders of Israel, first a large area of the Levant was designated as Israel, a Jewish state and thereafter its expansion has continued. Since 1948 Israel has by military conquest persistently enlarged. There is a land-grab going on in the area of the Levant. So that's the first thing, and it is undeniable. You may choose to argue that conquests were legitimate, that conquerors acquired extra land by peace treaty after conquest - but you cannot honestly argue that the amount of exclusively or substantially exclusively Jewish occupied land has vastly increased. Nobody has succeeded in defending the others whose land has been occupied and taken, whose crops have been destroyed, whose communities have been divided by an illegal wall, and who see town after town illegally built on illegally seized land on which those others used to live and farm. Those people have been squeezed into an ever smaller space, denied the liberty to trade, and suffered the destruction of their infrastructure schools and hospitals. Are you surprised that they and their democratically elected government, Hamas, are mightily pissed off? None of the above excuses the war by Hamas on ordinary Gazans who (if reportage can be believed, it comes very largely from non-Gazan sources) are oppressed by a Taliiban-like regime. But it explains their fury against the expropriation of their land and destruction of their homelands. Hassan al-Banna died in 1949. His views as to the purpose of the Muslim Brotherhood may well no longer be very relevant. The designation of Hamas as a terrorist organisation is wholly irrelevant to whether the objectives of Hamas include either the creation of a Caliphate in Gaza or a larger one outside it. It may however be worth mentioning that an effort may be made to term Hamas "freedom fighters" in that they are seeking to liberate themselves from Israel, but it would not be possible to regard the pre-Israel Zionist terrorists as "freedom fighters". They sought not to liberate any land or people, but to establish their own control over the lands of others. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Musket Date: 03 Aug 14 - 02:43 PM First Keith days I made things up. Then he googles and rather than apologising, he tries just qualifying it by admitting his mistake. You couldn't make it up... (But he does...) Poo Bad. Getting desperate aren't we? Hamas may be led by people as obnoxious and dangerous as Israel's militant tyrannical leaders, but like Israel's leaders, they "seized power" as Keith puts it in democratic elections. Which is more than the German nazi party ever did, prick. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 03 Aug 14 - 03:11 PM Musket, you are such an ignorant buffoon! You said, "Hamas is a political party with Christians and atheists in its number." It is an Islamist group! Atheists and other religions are not tolerated. How can you have such strong views without knowing or understanding such basic facts? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Musket Date: 03 Aug 14 - 04:20 PM It is a rather fascist but still political party of Palestine. What is known as Islamism purposely does not recognise national boundaries. It's constitution is based on liberation from Israel for its interpretation of Palestine. It recognises that Palestine is based on geographical not religious grounds, but accepts funding from Islamic sources, which skews matters. However, it isn't difficult to read their constitution nor google the photo of one of their leaders during the January 2009 attacks by Israel, stood on Parliament Square with the late Tony Benn. Benn noting that the man is a coptic christian. Sure, a token but there again, unlike Keith I have never defended either set of terrorists. Just the Palestinian people. Try again. People can find the reality, they don't have to accept propaganda. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: bobad Date: 03 Aug 14 - 04:44 PM " they "seized power" as Keith puts it in democratic elections." Wrong...again for the thicker ones among us: Hamas won a PLURALITY (not majority) in a LEGISLATIVE election in 2006. The directly elected President (in 2005) was (and remained) Abbas. The election results were 44% for Hamas and 41% for Fatah. After Hamas failed to form a government, about a year after the election, Hamas and Fatah reached a power-sharing unity government under the Mecca Agreement (brokered by the Saudis). Then in June of 2007 Hamas perpetrated a violent coup (throwing Fatah officials off roof-tops) and illegally seized all power. Only about 20% of the PA population supported this military takeover. Does the fact that they eliminated the opposition and established totalitarian control remind you of anyone?....(Hint think Weimar Republic 1933) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Richard Bridge Date: 04 Aug 14 - 02:01 AM Er - 44% as against 41%. That looks remarkably like an electoral win tome. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Jim Carroll Date: 04 Aug 14 - 04:19 AM Seem to remember Thatcher came to power on 42% of the vote - I doubt if little Booboo would have a great deal of argument with that - might be wrong though!! Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 04 Aug 14 - 07:17 AM Musket, Islamisation has moved on. There are few Christians in the whole of Gaza now, and of course none in Hamas. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: bobad Date: 04 Aug 14 - 08:02 AM So you're perfectly alright with this part: "Then in June of 2007 Hamas perpetrated a violent coup (throwing Fatah officials off roof-tops) and illegally seized all power. Only about 20% of the PA population supported this military takeover." Doesn't surprise me in the least. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Richard Bridge Date: 04 Aug 14 - 08:24 AM It's an internal power struggle. I'm more bothered about the Taliban-like regime that Hamas promotes inside Gaza (although that is also disputed). And I'm far more bothered about the Israeli invasion and continuation of the Israeli land-grab. There is a new battle going on - on Wikipedia - each side says that the other is editing Wikipedia to include propaganda. As Wikipedia currently stands: - "The pro-Fatah view is, that it [the battle of Gaza 2007] was a plain military coup by Hamas. The pro-Hamas view is, that the US drew up a plan to arm Fatah cadres with the aim of forcefully removing Hamas from power in Gaza. According to the pro-Hamas view, Fatah fighters, led by commander Mohammed Dahlan with logistical support from the US Central Intelligence Agency, were planning to carry out a bloody coup against Hamas.[28] Then, Hamas pre-emptively took control over Gaza" And "Human Rights Watch accused both sides of violating international humanitarian law, in some instances amounting to war crimes.[33] The accusations include targeting and killing civilians, public executions of political opponents and captives, throwing prisoners off high-rise apartment buildings" And "Hamas militants seized several Fatah members and threw one of them, Mohammed Sweirki, an officer in the elite Palestinian Presidential Guard, off the top of the tallest building in Gaza, a 15-story apartment building. In retaliation, Fatah militants attacked and killed the imam of the city's Great Mosque, Mohammed al-Rifati. .... a Hamas militant was thrown off a 12-story building." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Greg F. Date: 04 Aug 14 - 10:06 AM Ther ya go again, Boo - flinging that NAZI bullshit around. Really, don't you ever get tired of that same old crap? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: bobad Date: 05 Aug 14 - 08:43 AM "Iraq's Yazidi minority has fled from Islamic State fighters as the UN says 'a humanitarian tragedy' is unfolding in Sinjar." Al Jazeera Who gives a shit, there are no Jews involved. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Richard Bridge Date: 05 Aug 14 - 09:27 AM I have an idea. The USA can take its aid from Israel and give it to the Yazidi. I did however think we were all agreed that ISIS were uncivilised wankers - and the further they go the more Muslims say that ISIS in no way truly represents Islam (as neither does Boko Haram). Or do you differ, Poo-bad? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: bobad Date: 05 Aug 14 - 09:33 AM How about Iran, Qatar and Turkey stop their aid to arming Hamas so that it can launch attacks against Israel. Maybe then the citizens of Gaza and Israel can enjoy a normal and peaceful life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: beardedbruce Date: 05 Aug 14 - 11:13 AM ISIS Gains First Ground in Lebanon The Atlantic Wire By David Ludwig 17 hours ago Militants associated with the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) captured the Lebanese city of Arsal in fighting that began on Friday and continued Monday. According to The Telegraph, a Syrian rebel group set up check-points in the border city but have not yet declared the area as part of the caliphate. In addition to 40,000 residents, there are roughly 120,000 refugees living in Arsal. The conflict broke out after the Lebanese Army arrested Abu Ahmad al-Jumaa, a former commander in the Free Syrian Army who later declared allegiance to ISIS. Officials said they arrested Jumaa because he planned to attack an army outpost. Since the Syrian Uprising began in 2011, an estimated one million refugees have crossed the nearly 250 mile border from Syria into Lebanon, a number expected to hit 1.5 million by the end of 2014 The United Nation's Refugee Agency predicts. The Sunni insurgents said they will leave Arsal if the government releases Jumaa, something Lebanese Prime Minister Tammam Slama flatly rejected on Monday. http://news.yahoo.com/isis-gains-first-ground-lebanon-214910243.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Richard Bridge Date: 05 Aug 14 - 11:22 AM Nobody is attacking Israel because of its religion, Poo-bad. It's because of its invasion. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: beardedbruce Date: 05 Aug 14 - 11:32 AM Iraq's jihadis have vowed to wipe out the Yazidis. Who are they? The ancient religious group, concentrated in Iraq, have been targeted for extermination by the so-called 'Islamic State' that seized a number of towns along the Iraq-Syrian border this week. Christian Science Monitor By Lydia Tomkiw 46 minutes ago The arrival of the self-styled "Islamic State" (IS) in the northern Iraqi town of Sinjar over the weekend sent the native religious minority fleeing. Yazidis, labeled by IS (formerly the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, ISIS) "devil worshippers," have a long history of persecution. Forty Yazidi children were reported killed and reports of forced conversions and murders have now emerged. A Yazidi parliamentarian fleeing northern Iraq told the Washington Post, "In our history, we have suffered 72 massacres. We are worried Sinjar could be a 73rd." The Sinjar area, near the border with Syria, is strategically important for IS, just 50 miles from Mosul. The United Nations has said close to 200,000 have fled the area, calling it a "humanitarian tragedy." http://news.yahoo.com/iraqs-jihadis-vowed-wipe-yazidis-144449482.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 05 Aug 14 - 12:09 PM BBC same story. "The UN children's agency has expressed "extreme concern" over reports that 40 children from Iraq's Yazidi minority died after an offensive by jihadists. Unicef says reports indicate the children died as a "direct consequence of violence, displacement and dehydration" over the past two days. Thousands of Yazidis fled into the mountains after the Islamic State (IS) overran the town of Sinjar on Sunday. Yazidis follow an ancient faith that jihadists condemn as devil worship. "Families who fled the area are in immediate need of urgent assistance, including up to 25,000 children who are now stranded in mountains surrounding Sinjar and are in dire need of humanitarian aid, including drinking water and sanitation services," Unicef said. BBC Arab affairs editor Sebastian Usher says the Unicef statement goes some way towards confirming some of the most disturbing reports coming out of the heartland of the Yazidi community. Images posted on the internet showed small clusters of people gathered on the sides of a canyon in the Sinjar mountains. There have been unconfirmed reports of massacres in Yazidi villages by the jihadists, our correspondent adds" http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28663926 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 05 Aug 14 - 12:11 PM BBC on Lebanon. "n the latest clash, gunmen opened fire on a bus carrying soldiers in the city of Tripoli, the army said. Meanwhile on the border with Syria two Lebanese soldiers have reportedly been killed, as fighting with Syrian rebels continues for a fourth day. A young girl has also been shot dead, after clashes spread. The fighting on the border began on Saturday when Syrian rebels raided Arsal, a mainly Sunni Lebanese town. The rebels objected to the detention by Lebanese forces of an alleged member of Syria's Islamist militant group al-Nusra Front. At least 15 soldiers have been killed in the area since the weekend." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 05 Aug 14 - 12:15 PM BBC today on Syria "More than 150,000 people have been killed in Syria and more than nine million have been forced to leave their homes since the uprising against Mr Assad began in March 2011. In Iraq, jihadists attacked Kurdish forces in Zumar on Friday and fighting has continued since, with at least 14 Kurds and an unknown number of IS fighters killed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 05 Aug 14 - 12:38 PM Liya, Guardian. "How Libya's freedom came undone could fill volumes. The short version is that the first democratically elected parliament, the General National Congress, rather than disband the militias, funded them, each faction seeing its own forces as insurance against those of everyone else. An Islamist-led coalition came to dominate parliament, but as the squabbling grew worse it realised it would lose an election, so delayed having one. Then, in May, a former Gaddafi-era general turned rebel leader, Khalifa Hiftar, launched an offensive against Islamist brigades in the east while his allies stormed congress in Tripoli. An election was duly called in June, and the Islamists duly lost, or expect to lose when parliament assembles this week. The result has seen some of their militias grab what Tripoli real estate they can, triggering civil war." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 05 Aug 14 - 01:31 PM Iraq is asking its Air Force to assist the Kurds in fighting the Caliphate, which is adding to its territory. A evolving war that may involve the West again. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: beardedbruce Date: 05 Aug 14 - 01:50 PM There have been unconfirmed reports of massacres in Yazidi villages by the jihadists, our correspondent adds. Jawhar Ali Begg, a spokesman for the Yazidi community, said on Monday that after overrunning Sinjar, IS (formerly known as Isis) had given them an ultimatum to convert to Islam, pay a tax or face death. There are estimated to be around 500,000 Yazidis worldwide, most living in Iraq's Nineveh plains In August 2007 jihadists attacked Yazidi villages in Nineveh, killing between 400 and 700 people 400 to 700 out of 500,000- Compared to 1,900 out of 1,800,000 Gazans- YET NO_ONE HERE CALLS IT GENOCIDE. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Greg F. Date: 05 Aug 14 - 04:40 PM Oh, well, all those corpses are all right then, ain't they Bullshot? After all, they're just Palestinians and children into the bargain, not like they're real people, eh? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Richard Bridge Date: 05 Aug 14 - 05:21 PM So, are our customary Islamophobes conflating ISIS with Islam in general? It certainly looks like it. And are those now bewailing the situation in Libya now regretting their former demonisation of Gaddafi (nasty nutjob though he was)? And - er - Iraq? Oh, and Syria. Did anybody say "I told you so"? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 05 Aug 14 - 05:23 PM No Richard . Most Muslims have no truck with Islamism. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Musket Date: 06 Aug 14 - 03:09 AM I recall being laughed at by saying it is too easy to purposely confuse Islamism with Islam if your intention is to discriminate against Muslims. Then we see perfect examples of just that. I wouldn't bother back pedalling if I were you Keith, the chain came off ages ago. Anyway, you seem to be comfortable and settled with your little friends. You seem to get on like a house on fire, which is ironic considering your support for firebombing houses in Gaza. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Jim Carroll Date: 06 Aug 14 - 03:36 AM "Most Muslims have no truck with Islamism." Too busy raping children because of their "implant", don't you think? Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Richard Bridge Date: 06 Aug 14 - 04:20 AM Steady chaps, It's nice that KtheA has gone that far. Let's hope he remembers the distinction next time he feels tempted to start tarring all Muslims with the same brush. We shall see. In the meantime, the world perhaps makes progress towards reducing FGM. Adherents of a number of religions do practise it, but there are apparently comments in some of the hadith (although not the Koran) that advocate it, and geographically it is largely only found in places where Islam is also prevalent (and expatriot groups from the same places). There is some dispute whether ISIS advocates it, but the Muslim Council of Great Britain condemns it as "unislamic" http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/23/female-genital-mutilation-muslim-council-britain-unislamic-condemn |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Richard Bridge Date: 06 Aug 14 - 04:25 AM It also seems that UK Muslim leaders condemn ISIL's attempts to establish a caliphate by force - http://www.islamonline.com/news/articles/2/UK-Muslim-Leaders-Condemn-Violent-ISIL.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 06 Aug 14 - 04:42 AM next time he feels tempted to start tarring all Muslims with the same brush I never have. Why the need to lie about me? Why can you not just address what i say instead of making up shit I would never say? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Jim Carroll Date: 06 Aug 14 - 04:47 AM "Why the need to lie about me?" "All Pakistanis Muslims are culturally implanted to have underage sex" - or some such words Why do you lie about yourself? Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 06 Aug 14 - 05:05 AM No such words. Why the need to lie about me? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 06 Aug 14 - 05:13 AM As you know because I have reminded you many times, I stated clearly that I did not believe that issue was in any way releated to Islam or any other religion. I just reported that British Pakistani people were blaming their culture. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Musket Date: 06 Aug 14 - 05:14 AM Yeah, I remember him saying that too. He also started a "Peoples' Popular Front of Judea" type argument to say the Muslim Council of Great Britain doesn't exist when I quoted something from a regional council of mosques that they endorsed. It's easy to try and make people look idiots, as Keith shows, but it is difficult to succeed, as Keith shows. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 06 Aug 14 - 05:17 AM No musket. You provided a "quote" that Google could only find in your post, and you claimed it was from "The British Council of Mosques" which does not exist. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Jim Carroll Date: 06 Aug 14 - 07:20 AM " I stated clearly that I did not believe that issue was in any way releated to Islam or any other religion." "Don I do now believe that all male Pakistani Muslims have a culturally implanted tendency......" (context Muslim underage sex) You referred to the Muslim culture and you have throughout - ie - all Muslims are the same - in your own words. You have elevated gobshiteism to and artform Stop buggering up this forum with your lies and obfuscations you twisted little toerag Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 06 Aug 14 - 07:28 AM You referred to the Muslim culture No I did not, and never have. I stated repeatedly that them being Muslim was not an issue and religion played no part. (As you know because you have been making the same false claims for over three years and had them refuted every time) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Jeri Date: 06 Aug 14 - 07:54 AM In the 'Muslim Prejudice' flame war, Keith wrote: Don, no one on this thread has claimed any of those things.Tell me this stupid bickering...well, this particular strain of stupid bickering, isn't all because of a typo... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Jim Carroll Date: 06 Aug 14 - 08:30 AM What typo? Keith chose to include "all Pakistani Muslims" in his racist attack. He said that the ones that were not involved "resisted their implant", putting all British Pakistani Muslims under suspicion (a potential enemy within, due to their culture - even worse) Over and over again he has defended his statement by claiming "culture is all" That it "tarring them all with the same brush" whatever colour you tar happens to be. As far as I know, nobody has mentioned religion here other than Christian Keith, but he has made it clear throughout is Islamophobic attacks that it is all part of his holy war - defending his own (claimed) religion as being innocent of persecution, while at the same time attaching the belief of others. This statement will be there to bite his bum every time he declares his own innocence and calls other people liars It is fundamental race and cultural hate-mongering, such stuff are holocausts made of. Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: beardedbruce Date: 06 Aug 14 - 08:35 AM BEIRUT (Reuters) - The Lebanese army and Islamist militants clashed on Wednesday despite a 24-hour ceasefire agreed to end five days of fighting that has killed dozens of people in the most serious spillover of Syria's three-year civil war into Lebanon. Saudi Arabian King Abdullah granted $1 billion to help the Lebanese army to bolster security as they battle militants who have seized the border town of Arsal on the Syrian frontier, state news agency SPA reported. Machine gun fire and shelling broke out on Wednesday morning on the outskirts of the town in breach of the 24-hour ceasefire, which came into force at 7 p.m. (12 p.m. EDT) on Tuesday. "The ceasefire is continuing, but we are responding to any violations," a security official said. At least 17 soldiers have been killed and 22 are missing from the violence in and around Arsal. Preliminary reports from inside the town suggest dozens of people have been killed there. Advancing Lebanese troops found the bodies of 50 gunmen on Monday, security sources said, while sources in the town report heavy casualties among its civilian population. Arsal's mayor Ali Hujeiri, by phone, said the gunmen were on the outskirts of the town. "There was a ceasefire, but it is not being implemented," he said, adding that there appeared to be more militants in the area. "The army is still there, the gunmen are still there, and the ones suffering are the civilians." Arsal was the first stop for many civilians fleeing the bloodshed in Syria. Refugee camps in Arsal that provide shelter to tens of thousands of Syrians who fled the war have been badly damaged in the fighting, forcing them to seek shelter in the town itself, Syrian activists in the area have said. http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-arabia-grants-lebanons-army-1-billion-aid-074214443.html |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Richard Bridge Date: 06 Aug 14 - 09:00 AM So there we have a number of Muslim opponents to ISIS. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: bobad Date: 06 Aug 14 - 09:14 AM I would imagine all Shia Muslims oppose ISIS. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Keith A of Hertford Date: 06 Aug 14 - 09:14 AM So there we have a number of Muslim opponents to ISIS Yes ISIS are opponents of all Shia Muslims. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Jeri Date: 06 Aug 14 - 09:26 AM Jim, duh. I keep forgetting what level of stupid a person has to be to keep wheedling on about this shit for-fucking-ever. But obviously, if Keith is OK with it, it wasn't a typo. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Caliphate From: Greg F. Date: 06 Aug 14 - 09:50 AM Tell me this stupid bickering...isn't all because of a typo...>/I> Nope. Its because of a particular fuckwitted individual. |