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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 18 Oct 08 - 08:13 AM The Swiss Hut was, indeed, a dump. But Taverns in those days wouldn't serve women, and many bars wouldn't serve hippies, and it was just around the corner. Gangsters, bikers, hippies, jocks, and students all jammed in together. Not to mention an incredibly rude "tough-guy" waiter-bouncer whose name I forget. He was like a nasty dog; if you faced him down, it was okay, but if he smelled fear on you, you were doomed. He was reputed to punch people for insufficient tips, and swipe wallets from drunks. It's funny, now, bars seem a lot friendlier. I hated the place, but at the time it seemed like the only game in town. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Peace Date: 18 Oct 08 - 08:48 AM Yeah. When were womwn allowed into taverns? Late 1960s? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 18 Oct 08 - 09:05 AM It started in the 70's and was a slow process. There are still a couple of men-only Taverns. The rule was, after a certain date, all new Taverns & ones that changed ownership had to serve women, but ones that stayed in the same family didn't. So it was a slow evolution. There was a Tavern on Monkland that was men-only into the 90s, and a beer cost 75 cents, but it's now a fancy restaurant (still with the same Tavern sign) & a beer costs 6-8 bucks. I remember the rage of some guys when the TP Tav in St Laurent started serving women! "They'll put up frilly curtains and the price of beer will go way up." they cried. And they were right on both counts! Yes I remember the sawdust floors & free peanuts and the drool and spit and vomit and pee with some fondness. But not THAT much fondness. The Peel Pub still only had one washroom with a trough last time I went in some yrs ago, even though it admitted women. They had to take their chances! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bankley Date: 18 Oct 08 - 12:22 PM how about that county bar 'The Blue Angel' on Stanley St., I believe 'we don't smoke marijuana in muskogee'... Ruthie and Bernie Mclean did a steady gig for years.... Mon. nites was open mic with Bob Fuller but you couldn't play anything newer than the late 50's... a waiter threaten to shoot me if I touched one of the carved wooden lamps near the booths... not sure if he was joking...didn't want to find out.... and you couldn't wear blue jeans there... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 18 Oct 08 - 12:56 PM The Blue Angel was very "urban redneck" in those days and not hippie-friendly. I went there with Dane Lanken one night and naturally requested "Okie for Muskokie" . The band laughed and said every time hippies came in, they requested that song, but they played it anyway. A bunch of yokels at a nearby table started razzing us: "Lookit them dirty hippies" "Do you ever wash?", but we just laughed and said "That's us." "What's soap?" I was so nervy in those days, I went and sat down with them so they could see a hippie close up. Pretty soon we joked around enough that the whole thing was de-fused. I drew cartoons of them on a napkin and they even bought me a beer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bankley Date: 18 Oct 08 - 01:09 PM bobad, you may want to tell your friend's daughter to check out the Culture section of today's Mtl. Gazette.... if she can... "Montreal's Most Influential Recordings " by Juan Rodriguez.. he's been around the scene for awhile, and 'tho I would include other, personal favorites... it gives an interesting look at the evolution of the music scene there from the early 60's to present times.... I'll pass along a few titles from the 20 named... he has a short review of each record as well as the rest of the article.... it might be of interest to some around here... his criteria includes... sales, international reknown, Que. reknown, staying power, historical value, contemporary value, originality/innovation, breakthrough value,and "last and least"-his personal taste.... so here's a sample... Felix Leclerc 'Le p'tit bonheur' 1959 Donald Lautrec 'Manon, viens danser le ska' 1964 Leonard Cohen 'Songs of Leonard Cohen' 1967 Robert Charlebois 'R.C. avec Louise Forestier' 1968 Jean-Pierre Ferland 'Jaune' 1970 Michel Pagliaro 'J'entends Frapper' 1972 Diane Dufresne 'Tiens-toe ben j'arrive' 1972 Contraction 'Contraction' 1972 Ville Emard Blues Band 'VEBB s'en vient-is coming' 1973 Beau Dommage 'B.D. 1974' Harmonium 'L'Heptade' 1978 Kate and Anna McGarrigle 'The French Record' 1980 also mentioned are Rene Lussier, Celine Dion,Jean Leloup, Lhasa de Sela, Daniel Belanger, Les Cowboys Fringants, Arcade Fire.... anyhow, I would have personally included Jesse Winchester, Oscar Peterson, Gino Vanelli, Maynard Ferguson, Paul Bley, Walter Rossi, Mahogony Rush, Murdoch, Dunn and a few others but I'm glad that I 'crossed the Main' way back when and recorded with Contraction and Ville Emard.... not bad for a young Anglais.. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Beer Date: 19 Oct 08 - 09:23 AM Bobad. If you haven't already suggest the post "Little known '60s Folk Singers" as an added bonus. Lots of stories there. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bankley Date: 19 Oct 08 - 04:40 PM good idea Beer, a wealth of info... Today I dug out my copy of Ronald Lee's book, from a box in the attic... so colourful, then again so was that era in Mtl... here's a brief excerpt for any Swiss Hut vets... "We got in the car and drove over to the Swiss Hut. We drank beer, Marie wine. Kolia, normally a sober character, liked to have his periodic drinking bouts and Jilko, like most Hungarian Gypsies, liked his shasto or mulatni. By nine o'clock a large group had assembled around the semi-circular table on the 'beat' side and Jilko's fiddle, along with somebody's mouth organ, provided us with musical accompaniment for the old French Canadian folk songs like "C'est l'Aviron" Then Jilko played Gypsy music while I got up and danced while the assembled painters, sculptors, writers yelled their shouts of encouragement. ... Marie started dancing on top of the table. Her high heel shoes made a staccato on the table top, spilling glasses and crushing the packages of cigarettes. The crowd clapped their hands and her skirt twirled , rose and showed us the stiletto on her thigh.. 'Christ' I thought happily. 'What savages we are' I realized suddenly, that we were outlaws, not because we were not Canadians, but because we were. Here were people of all origins, almost all of them born in Canada, barring the odd immigrant, enjoying themselves in an old frontier style get-together within the sight of the skyscrapers and the synthetic entertainment of commercialized culture." .....'Yes, Canada might bask in its Anglo-Canadian myth, Toronto the good, Ottawa the bureaucratic, Vancouver the isolated, and Halifax the deprived. They were all English speaking cities. But here was Le Vieux Montreal, a wayward child of confederation. She could act like a passionate French whore or a militant fishwife ready to lead the mobs to the barricades of revoluton.' from Goddam Gypsy circa 'late sixties' |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Peace Date: 19 Oct 08 - 04:58 PM One of the things worth mentioning is the diversity of songs that made it to the charts in Montreal--independent of NYC and London radio plays. I'm reminded that "Er Es Tu" by Mochedades, "Vien faire un tour chez moi" by Renee Claude and "Io Vagabondo" by (here I'm stumped) were played on darned near all radio stations in the city, regardless of language. Montreal has never ceased to amaze me in that regard. . |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bankley Date: 19 Oct 08 - 08:23 PM me too, Peace, me too.. since I pretty well 'cut my musical teeth' in this city.... One week I'd be playing with Renee Claude at Sir George U. protesting the LG2/James Bay project, and within the next week or two, sitting in with some folk-singer by the name of Murdoch at the Karma Coffee House... exciting times... and judging from Rodriguez's article yesterday...there's still a strong originality about this place.. "The Montreal scene is a weirdly wonderful polyglut unique in North America. It is at once comprised of many distinct sounds appreciated by an audience uniquely positioned between American, French and European stlyes. Constantly aware of the differences between two languages and cultures, it's outsider music..... The Montreal music scene is out there in left field- more so than any other city in North America- an eclectic hybrid that thrives in a pop culture that's small enough to attain genuine intimacy with an audience. The local culture celebrates "la difference" between Anglo, European and so-called world-music styles, but with a natural affinity toward all of them....." MTL Gazette Oct.18/08 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 19 Oct 08 - 09:28 PM Do any of you guys recall the mandolin player who couldn't talk? I don't recall his name, but he was a Montrealer, had a terrible stutter & a pal who would interpret for him. Frank Wakefield, on one of his many visits, brought him up on stage and played backup guitar for this guy. A gentlemanly gesture, but then Frank (an amiable but unrepentant redneck) would say "Who could believe a Jew-boy could play so good?" The guy was nonetheless thrilled. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Peace Date: 20 Oct 08 - 03:25 AM I miss Dilallo burgers. I have been having dreams about the things. The first burger was when I was 13 in Ville Emard. That may have been Mr Dilallo's first store. He sponsored a football team in a four-team league. We'd go there after games. Sorry for the thread drift. I'm more sorry I can't have a Dilallo burger, extra peppers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: GUEST,bankley Date: 20 Oct 08 - 07:45 AM and you can finish it off with a 'steamie' from the Montreal Pool Room or a smoked meat from Ben's, a special at Wilensky's, blintzes from the Mazurka, a dozen bagels from the Fairmont Bagel Bakery, and a quart of DOW..... okay, hold the DOW,,,, |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 20 Oct 08 - 08:03 AM Silver Amusements on the Main! The Special was a steamed hot dog all dressed with huge greasy hand-cut fries lined up (balanced) on top of it, and it cost 15 cents! Two specials and a coke was a huge meal, under fifty cents to get you through a long day! (Called Silver Amusements cuz it had pin-ball machines too, but most people went there for the Specials.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Little Hawk Date: 20 Oct 08 - 10:01 AM Boy, sounds like Montreal was THE place to be! I missed it entirely. (sob!) I was mostly in Toronto. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 20 Oct 08 - 11:11 AM PT and I lived in a basement flat on Towers. The house is still there, the only "house" on that side of the street. Instead of cockroaches, we had exotic black beetle-things that would run up your leg at breakfast. The floor in the cupboards were just the bare earth. There was one small window in four-and-a-half rooms, and no sense of day and night. Lots of folks hung out there, and crashed. To leave your bed unguarded was to find someone else sleeping in it an hour later. Geez, what a buncha bums! One day PT was annoyed at me and flung a pot of week-old leftover spaghetti at my head. It stuck, pasted on the wall, still circular. We decided that it constituted ART, and it stayed there for months! I can't say this lifestyle was entirely 60's. A few years ago, I dropped by my son's place; co-operative housing. There was a three-legged table in the kitchen, upside down, a pile of dirty dishes, cases of beer empties up to the ceiling. On the floor, a mixture of clean and dirty clothing, of four different denizens, that ran down a hallway. I've never been more jealous! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: GUEST,bankley Date: 20 Oct 08 - 04:58 PM ....and we survived and can stil raise a little hell sometimes.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Beer Date: 20 Oct 08 - 08:04 PM Use to play in the Verdun Fastball league in the late 60/70ties at Willibroad Park, Melrose, Burland and Douglas. After the games the team would make their way to the Monk Tavern in Ville Emard. In 67 we were paying 10 cents (maybe 15 but I seem to remember 10) for a 16oz. glass. The tables we would put all together and discuss the results of the game. Upon leaving around 11 p.m it was always a stop at the corner of Monk and Allard for a delicious water melting Dilallo hamburg with the hot peppers. There is a Metro station at that Hamburger spot now, but just down the street they are located and not cheep any more. ad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 20 Oct 08 - 10:41 PM Hi Kids: File this under: "No, you're not being ripped off these days...Hee Hee Hee" The year: 1970. Me and my girlfriend, who I now fondly remember as "The Anti-Wife", (be-atchy! Yoy!) Anyhooch, we're looking around for an apartment on Esplanade. She's tired and wants to go, I say one more to check out. There's a small sign on the door telling us to go to Bagg St. to see a "Mrs. C." We talk. The place is 7 rooms. By rooms I mean the place stretched from Esplanade to St Urbain.(almost) Included is a full finished basement, with bar. I used to ride my bike indoors and rehearse bands down there. The rent? $150/month...HEATED. We had 16 cats. I was making $90/week and we used to have drinks, take cabs to Chinatown, go to a movie, and head off to Dunn's for cheesecake afterward... The girlfriend comes home from a Christmas party. A bit drunk, uh, no... bombed. I hear fumbling of keys near the door. Then I look to the side of the bed to where she crawled. She wakes me, then falls on the floor. I galantly grab her by the ankles and drag her to the porceline...LOVE, I tell you, it was LOVE(tough Love) Bad girl, Bad, Bad girl... I then, even MORE galantly, lift her into the bed. She passes out/sleeps for about 20 minutes, then wakes up screaming..."I'm BLIND! I'm BLIND!" (I had taken off her glasses.) If you got to know me, I'm kind, no really... Then one day, I notice water coming from a light fixture. Now, I'm not a rocket scientist, but I know that's not a good thing. I go upstairs to find the Greeks running around like squirrels with mops. They point ...Upstairs. 3rd floor. Turns out the girlfriend of this guy turned on the bath, then "took a little nap" while the tub was filling up...Messy... The Greeks held their dances on Sundays. I used to watch the ceiling move up and down about an inch and a half... But that was then, and this is now. See yas..BR Names withheld to protect the young, drunk, and hey, it was 1970...God Bless you wildwoman, wherever you are... You gots to have more than one woman in this world... Yeah, you gots to have more than one woman in this world... Cause one just wants to thrill ya, the others might try to kill ya... So you gots to have more than one woman in this world...(song idea, never completed, circa 1970...BR) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 21 Oct 08 - 10:38 AM Damn this thread! I keep hoping it'll drop off the bottom, so I won't be tempted to add ONE more memory. Ah well... When I left Towers street, there was 2 months before I could get a place in the Birmingham (corner Bleury & de Mais.), so I stayed in a co-op on Prospect Street. It had been, once, a grand Westmount house, and it is now, again. But in-between it was a dump. $280/month for the whole place, with 7 folks at $40 apiece. But after a few weeks people started dropping out without finding replacements, leaving me and another guy, total 2. It was hopeless finding paying people, so the other guy, out of boredom and loneliness put up a notice: CRASH HERE (address) FREE. Soon the 2 became 22, with 20 freeloaders! There were sleeping bags everywhere, and one gal started living in the bathroom, the only room with a lock! They were a surly, ungrateful lot.. ..."Hey man, you gonna make me some breakfast??" It was like Dylan's lines... "Fistfights in the kitchen, it's enough to make me cry!" The fact that the upstairs toilet started leaking into the downstairs hall didn't help either. After a few days, my room in the Birm became available. I packed up and left. As I went out the door I surveyed the somnolent bodies, and noticed a large rotting bag of potatoes under the kitchen table, left over from its "commune" days. It was the liveliest thing in the place. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bankley Date: 21 Oct 08 - 08:41 PM "comme je vous avez dit, on a passay au traver d'a toot ca, pi est encore dans l'vie okay toolmonde....ensemble pi est encore dans la vie" vive la companie...... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Peter T. Date: 21 Oct 08 - 09:57 PM If Rick Fielding were still with us, I'm sure he would add spice to this thread. I was in Montreal in 67, and what I most remember as a kid apart from Expo was all the talk about this guy Trudeau..... yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Beer Date: 21 Oct 08 - 10:21 PM How true Peter, how true. ad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: The Lorax Date: 23 Oct 08 - 04:53 PM Hey Everyone - Allow me to introduce myself: the aforementioned Stephanie, professional student and collector of anything 60s related. I can't begin to tell you all how much I've enjoyed your posts. It's been quite the trip. Thanks Bobad for starting this up. And thanks to all of you who have shared memories. Thanks also to Azizi, who gave me the rare pleasure of acknowledgeing the historical value of my research. Beleive me, us historians don't hear that enough!! Rest assured, if I make it through the whole gruelling process, there will most definitely be a book published about all of this. And if any of you want in on the fame and glory (!) or wwould rather tell your stories under pseudonyms, I'm all ears. Seriously, this stuff is gold and will make all the difference in the world to my project. It's your story. Help me tell it! For the record: I really do beleive that the Sixties were an incredibly important time in the history of our nation, and of the world. There's a reason 'the Sixties' have often been reduced to nostalgic mush or even political liability (think Obama and the Ayers connection) - that reason is because it was an incredibly potent time. To tell the 'real' story of the Sixties is to acknowledge the real revolutionary possibilities of that time - and not only politically, but culturally, socially, personnaly, sexually. Okay, I'll stop talking for now (Bobad knows the dangers of getting me started). Just thought I'd introduce myeslf. Do you all mind if I ask questions? If I ask for details? If i use you all as my personal gurus? John - you mentioned you should be a tour guide - if you were at all serious, I'd love to take you up on that offer. Of course, if any of You want to ask ME questions, please don't hesitate to message me, either. I'm looking forward to getting to know all you Mudcat people, and hearing your fabulous stories! Peace, - The Lorax (aka Stephanie) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Beer Date: 23 Oct 08 - 05:15 PM Stephanie, thanks for the feedback and joining this great site. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bobad Date: 23 Oct 08 - 07:11 PM Hi Steph, welcome to the Mudcat but be careful, it can become addictive. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Peace Date: 23 Oct 08 - 09:40 PM Good by me. Welcome. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 24 Oct 08 - 07:26 AM Lorax - Why not? Could be a real nostalgia-fest for me and my own family is a bit bored of my tales. If there's a not-to-cold day before the snows! Send me a PM. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: GUEST,bankley Date: 24 Oct 08 - 09:34 AM have fun Stephanie, amusez vous bien...bonne luck and good chance... "mons pays c'est ne pas un pays, ...sta une aut'affaire " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 24 Oct 08 - 12:59 PM A Thought about the Counterculture. The Counterculture could not have existed without a culture to be counter to. That is, a repressive society that made rebellion inevitable. Nowadays, a wander through downtown Montreal will reveal Stetsons and Berets, long & short hair, beards & bald chins, suits and saris and birkhas and birkenstocks. But in the 50s, there were tightly observed limits. Montreal West, where I spent some of my childhood, had, in the fifties, six (6) barbers!!! Now, despite double the population, there's only one, Rocco, and he only works a few afternoons a week! Yes, back then, folks got their hair cut weekly (!!), and woe to him who missed a week. Obloquy, and possible arrest! Nowadays, I get my hair cut in May, and that's it! In other words, to understand the 60s one must understand the 50s as well. They were both pretty awful, but the 60s had a better quality of awfulness. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Amos Date: 24 Oct 08 - 01:50 PM Well said, John. The same is true of the US where the roots of the BEats, Hippies, FLower Children and miscellaneous others can be found in the schmaltz of 1950's radio (For you and I have a guardian angel....) at its zenith, just before the major breakouts of Blue Suede Shoes, ROck-Around The Clock, and Houn' Dawg, and the remarkable social oppression and uniformity which bred such sentimental hallucinations. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: C. Ham Date: 24 Oct 08 - 02:37 PM Do any of you guys recall the mandolin player who couldn't talk? I don't recall his name, but he was a Montrealer, had a terrible stutter & a pal who would interpret for him. David Tinkoff. He died a few years ago after spending several years in hospital after being hit by a car in Ottawa. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 24 Oct 08 - 02:59 PM CHam... I'm sorry to hear that! Yes, the name's familiar now. I hope he had a good musical life! Thanks for the info, even if it is bad news! _john |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: C. Ham Date: 25 Oct 08 - 01:50 AM Info on David Tinkoff's life and final years |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Beer Date: 25 Oct 08 - 07:48 AM Thanks for posting this C. Ham Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 25 Oct 08 - 09:42 AM Yes, I remember David...Rest in Peace... bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: GUEST,number 6 Date: 25 Oct 08 - 12:40 PM "They were both pretty awful, but the 60s had a better quality of awfulness. " I luv that line ... thanks john f. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 07 Nov 08 - 05:47 PM Hate to revive this thread but I just found this pic, and , well, ain't it sweet... me&meg |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Beer Date: 07 Nov 08 - 08:59 PM Great pictures John. Thanks for sharing them. Beer (adrien) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bankley Date: 08 Nov 08 - 03:39 PM Hey John, which one is you ? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: john f weldon Date: 08 Nov 08 - 06:27 PM ...the pretty one, natch!.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 08 Nov 08 - 06:41 PM Fun pix John. Thanks...BR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: The Lorax Date: 24 Nov 08 - 10:31 PM Hey all - I just posted some followup questions in a new thread "Montreal Sixties". Hope you can help me out! Best, The Lorax. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: GUEST,flo penny Date: 26 Nov 08 - 05:07 AM re: goddam gypsy I was the "linda" to ron's story, back then in NDG. It made a good read. wonder what ever happened to our friend louis thomas and his family. Reading the previous blogs brought back memories thanks a bunch "the first" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: GUEST,bankley Date: 26 Nov 08 - 11:10 AM cool... R.Lee told me, about 2 weeks ago, that 'Goddam Gypsy' is set to be re-published under it's original title "The Living Fire" by Magoria Books out of Toronto.... there's also a Romani-English dictionary which will follow.... and he got a new bazouki with lots of decorations ! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bobad Date: 26 Nov 08 - 12:37 PM I just put in a request for the book through our local library, I'm looking forward to reading it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bankley Date: 26 Nov 08 - 04:38 PM I'm sure you'll enjoy it... back in '96 I was doing some odd jobs for a friend out in the country. He had a lot of sheds, workshop buildings and in one of these were piles of books, among other things. I didn't pay much attention, but one day a book on top of one of the piles caught my eye. 'Goddam Gypsy' with a young Ronald Lee staring back from a well-used cover. So I took it with me and really enjoyed it. I had never heard of the author nor did I know if he was still living or what. A couple of months later I ran into Willie Dunn in Ottawa, after not seeing him for decades. One day after a get together at Stormin' Norman's place, he asked me , out of the blue if I knew Ronald Lee.... and proceeded to tell me about how they once dropped a gallon of wine from a 3rd floor landing into the foyer of an apartment building where they had come looking for a party. I guess they got out of there fast, without the wine... So about a month later I was at Willie's and he passes the phone over to me, and it's Ron Lee on the other end. We've been friends ever since and opened a lot of doors in the Roma community for me.. It's kind of interesting how it went from finding the book to talking to the author within the span of 3 months, without consciously trying..... could be some Gypsy/Micmac mojo.... good medicine all around |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Beer Date: 26 Nov 08 - 09:34 PM Thanks Ron, enjoyed that story. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: Beer Date: 27 Nov 08 - 05:19 PM Anyone remember the name of the club that was located on St. Catherine's Street in the basement of the Metropolitan. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Montreal 60's Counterculture Question From: bobad Date: 27 Nov 08 - 07:02 PM Do you mean the strip joint which was called the (Café?) Metropole? |
