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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 23 Nov 05 - 09:28 PM I sincerely suggest, you search your local area for "game butchers" that will processe your meat.
Because it is posted, the carcass of the dead beast belongs to you. You might as well have delicously-good, dark-winter "eats."
Enjoy, be thankful for the bounty, invite friends in (do you have any friends since you are "isolated" on 30 acres??? In the Western U.S. even 3000 is not considered "spit in the spit-in-the-bucket.)
Sincerely,
Woman you have some SERIOUS "issues" about who you are, where you are, and what is your immediate role in the worls of humanity. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Bobert Date: 23 Nov 05 - 09:40 PM Okay, I weren't gonna tell you about this one, Michelle, but, hey.... Bout 30 years ago I was visitin' a college buddy at his farm in King George County, Va... He had put up lots of "posted" yeller signs with small print threatenin' all kinds of bad spells, prosceution, etc.... Well, one evenin' he looked over 'cross his corn field and there was truck and couple hunters gettin' their gear together... Well, first, let me tell ya that my bud grew up in the country an' didn't take no crap off nobody... ...so he calmly went to his gun closet, grabbed his 12 guage shotgun, loaded it with bird shot, elevated it so that if fired the birdshot would fall purdy much harmlessly to the ground and.... ....FIRED! 'Bout 10 seconds later them boys was on there way somewhere else... Now you say that the cops won't come, the game warden won't come and you got posters up and you can't talk with these rednecks???? Think it's time fir a little 12 guage with number 8 shot.... But be prepared with some 6 if that don't work... Just use the minimum force needed to protect yerself... .... and don't MAKE me come out there an' deal with these rednecks... Rednecks is my specialty... Bobert |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Auggie Date: 23 Nov 05 - 09:48 PM My only advice after surviving 15 years of opening days while living on the edge of a state forest, is to post your No Hunting signs so that the line of fire through them doesn't intersect with your house or barns. I had to buy nearly a dozen new signs every year after our local "sportsmen" used them for target practice, and I always liked it better when the errant shots hit the adjacent woodlot rather than my garage or outbuildings. I had perhaps a dozen encounters in those years with unwanted hunters on my posted property. I am not a physically imposing specimen (well maybe to third graders) but found nearly every one of them would leave when asked/told, especially after noting that small children lived there. To those who wouldn't, I just pointed out that they could stand and argue with me all they wanted, but that when I had left the house my wife had recorded their hunting license numbers and had called the county sheriff (which was always total BS), so they had better hope their argument would be shorter than the sheriff dept. response time. Eventually we got a reputation as the House where the Bleeping Mother-Bleepers lived, and they chose to hunt elsewhere. Short of continual confrontation, which has it's obvious risks, the bow-hunter idea is your best option. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 26 Nov 05 - 11:07 PM Well, hunting season starts on Monday and the hunters have arrived. My husband had to get ugly with some of them last night all ready. As for my puny 30 acres...who ever said it was a HUGE amount of land, Hmmm? Gargoyle, it's obvious you are trying to get a rise out of me but little man, you are going to have to do much better. I simply want for my family and home to be safe. DUH. I talked to an ex-state trooper tonight who told me there is nothing I can do short of taking photos and getting license plate numbers. They don't know the game laws and frankly, there aren't enough police to come check out such calls and chasing morons up the hills. The bow hunter idea really doesn't make any sense. The guys with the bows will not be out hunting while others are out with guns. I like the birg bombs idea, though. :) I picked up more signs today....we shall see. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Gurney Date: 27 Nov 05 - 01:20 AM I live in a country with a lot of deer and plenty of hunters. The helicopter deer recovery guys say they often see hunters 'aiming' at them. They hope that they are actually using their telesights to see if there is anyone they know in the chopper. Shouldn't be surprised if idiots look at females the same way. However, last year a farmer was killed 12 yards from his house with a hunting round. Still no clue to the killer. Just to reinforce the need to wear a Hi-Viz vest. Mind you, we also had a hunter killed by his mate, whilst wearing an orange vest and blue jeans! Do you have bird-scarer fireworks that you hang in a tree and they sound like a shotgun at intervals? They use them here in fruit orchards. Deer don't like them. Perhaps also a second line of signs or tapes inside the first? Plastic tapes, even specifically printed, are not too expensive, compared with medical treatment. Long lenses for 35mm film cameras, and the cameras themselves, are very cheap now, secondhand. Outdoor speakers on LONG wires, with a multi-CD player? Wishing you sensible hunters, and merry Christmas. |
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Subject: what should i do? From: GUEST,? Date: 27 Nov 05 - 01:49 AM Well there is a piece of land behind my house , and i have asked my naibors whos it is ,and they all said the owner was dead. there are no posted sighns. what should i do? Lampasses, Texas |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 27 Nov 05 - 08:49 AM Guest, You can find out who owns the land belongs to by visiting your local tax office with the description of the location of the land. They can look up all that kind of thing. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: GUEST Date: 27 Nov 05 - 11:45 AM If i am to be found on the land just exploring and not hunting. can a person still press charges on me? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Allan C. Date: 27 Nov 05 - 12:07 PM Guest, In a state in which "he needed killin'" is a viable defense, I would imagine that trespassing under any circumstances could turn out to be a very negative experience. Following LilyFestre's recommendation would be your best move before tramping about on someone's land, whatever your purpose. Think about it. Would you want someone wandering around on your property without your knowledge? I won't even go into the insurance issues. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 27 Nov 05 - 01:52 PM Guest, If the signs say NO TRESPASSING, you bet charges can be filed. You know, the best thing to do is just ask the owner. Personally, if folks would ask and we could show them where was safe to shoot, I'd be fine with it. The same goes for exploring...ask permission first. An update for us: Some fencing was put up, more signs are up, DH is staying home tomorrow and all cameras are ready to go. We'll probably get some hunters this year but this year we'll press charges. Also, for next year, because there are so few of us on this hilltop, especially on our road, we are going to talk to the other owners and it is highly likely that both ends of this road will have large signs saying POSTED! HUNTING PERMITTED WITH WRITTEN PERMISSION OF LAND OWNERS ONLY. We are sure that both neighbors will be agreeable, it's just a matter of a few phone calls. Also, we have seen notices in the local papers about NO HUNTING ON ANY PROPERTIES OWNED BY JOHN DOE. We will do the same, except with all neighbors names and the name of the road and township. DH found a newly erected tree stand about 15 feet from our line at the bottom of the hill....only way they CAN shoot and see anything is into our field...we left 4 signs there and some new fencing. The same folks (we watched them yesterday) were running their ATV's through our field....new fencing there, logs now in the way and signs posted there as well. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: GUEST Date: 27 Nov 05 - 02:16 PM Look Ms. Walker
Calm down - wear bright orange and take a stroll - take deep breaths.
Did Carl and Barbara fail to mention that the property has been hunted for nearly 150 years?
The noise from the local Jr. High filtering through the follage should put you more on edge. You are NOT in the boondocks and the hospitol is a comforting brief walk away.
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 27 Nov 05 - 02:22 PM I must agree with GUEST - calm down!
You are the new-comer, you have been there barely half-a-year.
This is no way to make friends and influence people. Continue this attitude and you will allienate even your neighbors. Gingerbread and cocoa are better at mending-walls, than the angry scorn of a depressed woman.
Gargoyle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 27 Nov 05 - 03:02 PM LF-- logs! Brilliant! Logs with signs affixed? "Smile, you're on Trespasser's Camera!" ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Deckman Date: 27 Nov 05 - 03:11 PM Have you thought about a battery powered megaphone. I think you can get one for under $50? When the hunters start for the woods, go out the house door, aim the megaphone (they carry a very long distance) and say: "You are tresspassing. We have called the authorities." Bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 27 Nov 05 - 03:12 PM One more-- LOL-- DH have a router? Gosh, here's a cottage industry-- I'll take two myself: Make up signs for driveways, "Marshall Family Rottweilers" (or Dobermans or whatever), with "Beware of Dog" in cute script beneath. Then aim a loudspeaker out the best window and run a tape all day of intermitten dog barking/growling/human screaming. Next time you post the perimeter, add a few Beware of Dog posters, too. Hm. ;~) Your problem is that you have Buck Day confused with Buck Day~~ when it is much better observed as a scary Halloween! :~) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 27 Nov 05 - 06:32 PM Bow Hunters are silent. This can scare the gun boys... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 28 Nov 05 - 12:25 AM Foolestroupe, again...the boys with the boys aren't in the fields when the boys with the guns are.... No to the megaphone but I do have a microphone and 3 pretty powerful amps...a nice shrill run on the violin followed by YOU ARE ON POSTED PROPERTY AND I HAVE A CAMERA would be a good start, eh? LOL We shall see....perhaps they will have gotten the message already and look elsewhere. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 28 Nov 05 - 08:21 AM "the boys with the boys aren't in the fields when the boys with the guns are...." ooooooooooooooooooooo, may you meant "the boys with the bows aren't in the fields when the boys with the guns are...." ooooooo, no, I'll leave that one alone... I'll start again... ahem! "the boys with the boys aren't in the fields when the boys with the guns are...." maybe not, but the whole point is to let THINK that they are... Signs "Bowhunters use this property"... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:33 AM Yeah, you are right, boys with bows, etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:40 AM Foolestroupe-- The BOW hunting and GUN hunting seasons are TWO DIFFERENT SEASONS. (Yes I am shouting as you can't seem to hear clearly.) The hunters KNOW THIS. Bow hunting season is OVER. Your idea would simply advertise that there is good hunting on that land-- it would amount to an endorsemnt from the bowhunters and a reassurance that when the gunboys show up, they won't be bothered by pesky bowhunters! LF is NOT exaggerating or being a baby-- it really is just as she describes, here in our rural county. The flood of flatlanders began over the weekend. They take over the town. They drive among our gentle old folk like they were in a city road-rage fight. Many of them are so rude to locals that we won't want to dine out, go to our local health club pool (it's in a motel full of hunters), etc., for the duration-- been through it long enough to know that the redneck jokes people like Mudcatters make are the stereotype these yutzes bring with them. Bobert-- It's open season on US. There will be rapes while they are here-- they left the Missus at home in Philly to come up here for a "good time with the boys." The lodging is cheap, the county economy needs their tourist bucks, and every church will have some sort of food event to suck in as much as they can. We'll all put on our best "Country Hospitality" faces. They won't see that our teeth are gritted. Hunting season, here, is the local equivalent of the Christmas shopping season that retailers count on. It's part of what lets us all live here in this wild beauty. WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT. The first blast on the hill behind my house just went off. No one asked permission to go up there. It's a group-- I can tell from the shooting cadence. Tonight they'll be pinching hardworking waitresses who will grit their teeth and smile as they pour coffeee, so their kids can eat all winter. She won't go home with one of them, but a local teenager might because she'd like some dress money for the winter dances. Or a Downs Syndrome girl may be fondled in the pool-- seen it happen. Seen the 16-year-old lifeguard not know how to handle it because it's "Be nice to flatlanders" season" and the manager says "They're only a little drunk" and "She thinks it's a game" and "Boys will be boys." DO YOU GET IT NOW? It's not just the land they trespass upon. "Bow" hunters won't be here to help with any of it. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Rapparee Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:50 AM Look: your land does NOT have to have signs for trespass to occur -- the signs simply make the fact that unauthorized access is prohibited more noticable and help to define the boundaries of your land. And to say "Trepassing Hunters" in this title is actually discriminatory. Would you permit a birdwatcher to use your land without permission? A hiker? A mountain biker? A dirt biker? For ANYONE, under normal circumstances, to be on your land without permission is trespass. You can even say, "You may cross" to one and "You may not cross" to another. May I humbly suggest that you are trying to prevent the slobs, the boors, the drunken louts, from abusing your land? True hunters are none of these. Frankly, I'd insist that the cops -- fish & game, state, sheriff, or whoever -- do their job, and get like-minded neighbors to insist along with you. I doubt that the crime load is all that great.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: MMario Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:55 AM rap - true hunters also normally get permission before hunting someone elses property - at least they do in every area I've lived in. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Nov 05 - 10:27 AM This is not a thread about "True Hunters." The fact that YOU would never do such thingss doesn't mean that we, up here, aren't living on Watership Down. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 28 Nov 05 - 02:00 PM Susan, WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!! And yes, I AM DELIBERATELY AIMING TO KEEP MEN WITH GUNS/HUJNTERS off my land. None of the others in the list you gave SHOOT AT MY FAMILY, HOUSE OR ANIMALS. Insist away Rap...good luck with it. In fact, c'mon over to my house and use my phone. I talked to a friend who used to be a state police officer and he very clearly said that the police will NOT come as this type of thing has to do with game laws so it falls in the hands of game warden/s Being that we are either the 2nd or 3rd largest county in the state with fewer than 3 game wardens (I actually believe we only have 1), good luck with that. I was out to check all signs and entries this morning, so far, so good. I can see guys in the corner of our field where they put the tree stand up....so far, no shots have been fired. The men are out driving the deer just up the road from me (about 1/2 mile) on the other side of the street. About 9 of them walking in a line scaring the deer in one direction while someone with a gun sits and wait for them to come running through in a panic. Yeah, there's a real sport for you. And Susan is more than right about the men and their sexual habits while they are here. When I was a teenager, my friend and I were walking home from a school dance and we were approached by 6 men who wanted us to come to their room (pretty persistent about it too) so they could "take our pictures." Sound like "true hunters" to you? The good thing about today is that it is almost 55 degrees, rainy and a fierce wind is blowing...deer don't move much in that kind of weather. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Nov 05 - 02:10 PM Oh yes! The rain--! I absolutely cracked up last night when I realized these big "toughies" would be sliding their Eddie Bauers through the mud all week! I think I'll express my appreciation for this (and for the hunter-bucks these yayhoos bring into the local pockets), by overtipping our waitresses all week! By next year's Buck Day I'll have a brochure the locals can helpfully hand out to our dear guests: "How to Get Permission to Hunt on Our Land." Rap, we LIKE the "True Hunters." My policy for this year shall be to tax each polite hunter who knocks on my door, a quarter-carcass for the privilege! (Our landlord takes a whole doe from each group he OKs!) I'll take hearts, livers, and kidneys, too-- flatlanders seldom appreciate that bonus they can get from field-dresing, and those parts are sweet when fresh and soaked in cold, salty water. Smirk-smirk, ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Sorcha Date: 28 Nov 05 - 02:11 PM Oh, I get it all right. Seen some of it myself. I just don't have many helpful suggestions. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Nov 05 - 02:23 PM About that road rage, fresh from our local paper-- THIS is what the cops are busy responding to, and rightly: Road rage: could this happen to you? by Gayle Morrow "I did a couple of things wrong," acknowledged Emma Netterman. "I didn't have my doors locked, and I almost always do. I don't want to have to tell people to do that, but -" It was the afternoon of Nov. 6 and Netterman was driving south on Route 287 through Morris. She was on her way to pick up her daughter, who lives in Lycoming County. The two were going to Berwick for a viewing. "I left the house mainly with the idea that I was going to a viewing in Berwick," said Netterman, who lives between Wellsboro and Mansfield. "It was the middle of a Sunday afternoon, and who would think you'd end up encountering something like this." As she rounded the last bend leaving Morris, she observed a man in a van at the Back Street intersection stopped there, apparently waiting for her to go by. He pulled out behind her, and was tailgating her as they were going up the hill. She said her car is small and doesn't have a lot of power, so she thought she would pull over when she could and let him by, as he seemed to be in a hurry. She pulled onto the shoulder at the top of the hill and decided to take advantage of the stop to call her daughter. "I did have my cell phone with me - I've been trying to train myself to take it with me everywhere," Netterman commented. As her daughter answered the phone, the man in the van pulled in front of her rather than driving by. "Thinking he was stopping to ask if I needed help, I rolled the window down," she said. He didn't come to her window, but stood in front of her vehicle yelling. "He was giving his opinion of my mentality," Netterman related. "He did not approach my vehicle at this time." He did get back in his van and drive away; she thought then that she ought to get his plate number and, a little further down the road, she was able to do that. She couldn't get a cell phone signal to call 9-1-1, however. The man then "locked his brakes, threw the van into reverse," and tried to back into her vehicle "while I sat in total amazement." "My worry then was that he'd be jumping out of the van," she said. He did not, and as he continued down the road, she said she "realized this was someone I didn't want to meet." She observed him turning right onto a road by the Idlewood Inn, and said she felt relieved, thinking he was "just going home." Near the Inn 287, she got a cell phone signal and pulled in the parking lot there to call 9-1-1. "I got a dispatcher right away. I told her the location and reason for the call, gave her the plate number, described the van, and gave her the sequence of events." As the dispatcher was determining whether it was a Tioga or a Lycoming incident, Netterman saw a van pull into the parking lot. It was different color than the one that had followed her, but she could see it was the same driver. The man saw her at about the same time. He "sprinted" to her car "even before I could tell the dispatcher he was coming," opened the door, got in and started yelling. She said she tried to remain calm and told the man to "just get away from me." "He looked at me sort of amazed, then withdrew and slammed the door and went quickly into the bar. At that point I was quickly locking car doors." The dispatcher asked if she would stay on scene until state police responded. A few minutes later, while she was still on the phone with the dispatcher, the man came out of the bar, got into the van, and drove it up behind her. Netterman could see that he was putting the bumper up against her car, "and at that point I did scream." As the man attempted to ram her car into a drainage ditch, she was able to cut the wheels and avoid a sign as well as the roadway. "The dispatcher asked if I needed an ambulance. I said no, but I really need someone to help me." Her daughter and son-in-law showed up soon after and stayed with her until the state police arrived on the scene. They, in turn, went to the perpetrator's residence, but he had already left. Netterman said the experience taught her that some people are very easily provoked and "you shouldn't deal with them lightly." "When he turned off the main road, I assumed I was out of danger. I'm sure he was surprised to find me in the parking lot. I basically ruined his day. "People should still have the courage to report this," she continued. "Your wife, your daughter, your granddaughter could have this happen. This has definitely motivated me to consider my own safety 24 hours a day, and I have taken measures to prepare myself for most encounters. "You definitely want to call for help as soon as possible if you suspect somebody, and always get the plate number of a person who is committing some form of road rage against you. You owe it to your family, friends and neighbors to report this. If there is a record of a pattern (of behavior) it would help a judge make a decision for corrective action. "I commend the state police for arriving as quickly as possible and doing what they could to apprehend him. It doesn't have to happen at night, in the middle of a city street or in a dark alley. You might not be ready for what's out there, and you need to realize everyday that you need to take measures to protect yourself. "It kind of takes the fun out of life." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Midchuck Date: 28 Nov 05 - 02:53 PM I've seen the kinds of behavior discussed on this thread, close up, believe me. But even so: If anyone were to judge an entire racial or ethnic group based on the behavior of its worst-behaved members, this entire list would scream and faint from outraged political correctness. But it's ok to do it with a group affiliated by a common hobby. I fail to see the logic in that. Peter. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 28 Nov 05 - 03:12 PM Peter, How would you like it if I came to your yard on any given day during the next two weeks and shoot at anything that moves? That could be a cat in the window, you trying to get your mail...whatever? And then, how about I drive all over your yard, in the mud, have a little fun with the four wheel drive and leave cans and litter all over? And hey, while I'm at it, why don't I bring some of my rowdy friends. A few of them can harrass your wife at work and hit on your daughter, maybe put our hands on her? Still going to welcome me back next year? Same time? Same bat channel? DUH. Now if I came to your house, parked in the driveway or along the street and knocked on the door, introduced myself and asked permission to hunt in an area that you have given the okay for, cleaned up all my trash, treated your family with respect...I imagine you'd have an entirely different reaction. Yes? Only ONCE in 7 years has someone had enough sense to come, knock on the door, identify themselves and ask if he could hunt on our land. After being shown where the animals were and a promise to not shoot in the direction of the animals or house, he was gladly permitted to hunt. Go figure. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 28 Nov 05 - 03:17 PM In regards to your hobby comment, yes....we do discriminate based on the majority of behaviors witnessed in this area. Fishermen are not permitted to fish on our land either. Why? They leave trash everywhere. If folks were adult enough to pick up after themselves, we'd be more than willing to share the water. My husband and I are do not object to outdoor sports, including trapping, hunting, fishing, bow hunting, muzzleloading, target shooting...any of it. In fact, we own a small fly fishing shop. What we do have difficulty with is irresponsible behavior on the part of many who endanger others and leave their trash behind, ruining natural environments. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 28 Nov 05 - 03:30 PM I read my post to my husband and this is what he had to say: "HELL YEAH! It's not ALL hunters, just the ones from New Jersey..they are a giant pain in the ass! Hallelujah!" LMAO! Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Nov 05 - 03:34 PM Peter, an entire group has NOT been maligned. An adjective has been used to describe the subgroup of bad guys-- hunters who trepass. Not hunters. Trespassing hunters. And not trespassers in general, actually-- birdwatchers tend not to act like idiots, tho they may wander over a property line into someone else's land without knowing it. Trespassing HUNTERS. If people want to renew the old battle over hunting, and are looking for any excuse to renew it-- go for it, but it's not fair to blame anyone posting in this thread so far, for renewing the fight. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: gnu Date: 28 Nov 05 - 03:39 PM Ah, er, gee, maybe the REAL hunters are actually hunting where they should be hunting and all youse what got problems are getting assholes? Rap is right. Hunters are not what they are being made out to be in this thread. There is a big difference between hunters and assholes. Please note the difference. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: MMario Date: 28 Nov 05 - 03:41 PM guys. There are hunters. there are "Trespassing Hunters" - usually not an intersecting set. This thread is about the later. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Nov 05 - 04:32 PM ... all youse what got problems are getting assholes? gnu, are you under the bizarre impression that we don't know this? What some of you nice folks don't seem to get is that because of the kind of terrain and low population density we have here, that's the group that tends to arrive. In droves. But I think we can learn from your confusion-- LilyFestre, maybe the group we need to mobilize isn;t the game commission, but our good local men who know how to act. Maybe we need to ask THEM to visit our places on Buck Day-- a day they otherwise tend to eschew in favor of not having to deal with the yayhoos. Now, a friend of mine loved the hunting season, AND the yayhoos. She said that all during high school, when her granny would rent her lodge and dining table to flatlander hunters all during the season, she'd open up her bedroom window at dawn and sight in. The yayhoos had no class as hunters and, without intending to, would drive the deer right past her window on their way to deep cover. She'd have a field-dressed buck hanging up to drain before her morning shower, and go off to school for the day! At night, she'd cheerfully help Granny serve the homemade pies... and hear the yayhoos moan about the Big One That Got Away... that she'd already butchered and stowed in the freezer, after school, while they were out at the Tavern. I like to think she served them a slice of old Buck, too. :~) I have rooms to let, too, if any of you fine Real Hunters would like to come pay a call and help pore lil ole me and Lily fend off them bad ole mean ole yayhoos. :~) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Nov 05 - 04:53 PM PS, I'll write the press release myself. Here's an early draft. ~S~ ================================================= NRA Members to Receive No-Sex Penalty for Buck Day Apathy County women are mad, and they say they're not taking it any more. Thighs were heard snapping shut from one area hill to the next as word spread that Real Women want their Real Hunters to "Get Real" with the yayhoos who arrive by the truckload to sample local tail of all sorts, and not just the whitetail sort. "After years of butchering, storing, and cooking venison-- not to mention years of smelling Hoppy's #9 all over my living room-- this year I expect my husband to DO something about the hunters who trespass on our land each year on Buck Day," said Connie Cootiesniffer. Her neighbor Emma agrees. "It's a county legal holiday, so my man's already at home from work on that day. No more sleeping in all snuggled warm and cozy with the wife-- at least not THIS wife," she said. "I'm sick of digging the shells out of the outhouse wall," said another woman, whjo asked to remain anonymous. "Last year I had to dig one out of my husband's behind, but do you think he'd do anything about it?" This reporter was impressed with the collective Pussy Power present, as the rally cry was raised in the church basement where the group secretly meets. "No More Nookie! No More Nookie!" Etc. Film at 11. :~) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: jeffp Date: 28 Nov 05 - 04:56 PM I am a man But I can change If I have too I guess |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 28 Nov 05 - 05:25 PM The local guys do get together to hunt...on land that they have PERMISSION to hunt on and where they KNOW the yahoos won't be hunting. What kills me is that within sight of all this posted land (I noticed MANY more posted fields on my way to town today), are hundreds of acres of state game lands. Why don't they go there? Why?? And yeah....this thread is about those hunters who are trespassing....I'm not interested in debating who thinks hunting is right or wrong, just how to get rid of those who are trespassing or keeping out those who aren't safety conscious or respectful. And WYS...it's DARK!!! One day down....the shooting finally stopped about 30 minutes ago! I also noticed a life flight going over in the direction of your town and then headed back my way about 20 minutes later....here's to hoping that someone didn't get shot. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Nov 05 - 06:18 PM Michelle, I finally figured it out. To stop it on your land, ask Pete (or any friend) to park a pickup just off the road at the prime walking-in/out spot. The yayhoos will think it's one of their own, already set up, and they'll go somewhere else. jeffp, you don't need to change-- unless you're a yayhoo, and I don't care if they ever change anyway. I just want them to go away. ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 28 Nov 05 - 06:23 PM Deer are so plentiful around here that all my neighbors just shoot 'em from their own front porches. No need for anyone to trespass. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: gnu Date: 28 Nov 05 - 06:47 PM "... all youse what got problems are getting assholes?".... "... gnu, are you under the bizarre impression that we don't know this?" Noooo. I just was trying to make it clear to the assholes. After all, they are assholes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Nov 05 - 06:49 PM gnu, Oh, OK.... I get it. I've always maintained that there will always be more than enough assholes to go around. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Rapparee Date: 28 Nov 05 - 07:13 PM If they are trespassing, they are violating the law. Hence, they are criminals (albeit very minor ones, most likely) and should be treated as such. I personally don't consider criminals anything other than criminals. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 28 Nov 05 - 09:32 PM Your hunting season seems very late....long ago, this season, bagged a prong-horn, and later nearly a 1K (rack was defective so it was not worth mounting) elk.
You need to recognize the hunters are performing a "service" to your wildlife community.
Sincerely, |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Barry Finn Date: 29 Nov 05 - 02:16 AM Get this. My wife is the ed director of a head start in Haverhill, Ma (USA) which runs 5 or 7 sites but the main site is where her office is. She had to have the teacher's & kids stay inside Wednesday because of opening day. They were shooting within close enough range to the kids play ground where they became a threat to anyone outside the classes. She had to call in the police, who it turns to be a 75 cents shy of a buck & a couple hours late in responding. "Ya, it's a bit crazy around here at first but it'll calm down within a few weeks". Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: LilyFestre Date: 29 Nov 05 - 07:31 AM Barry, That sounds pretty much like what goes on around here. I know of a few people who won't let their kids wait outside for the school bus because they are afraid of the hunters who are so anxious that they shoot without REALLY looking sometimes. I'm thinking that there won't be much shooting or too many people in the woods today as we are having LOTS of wind gusts...it's been going on all night with some horizontal rain mixed in. Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: bobad Date: 29 Nov 05 - 08:08 AM Barry's story remind's me of an incident that occured when I first moved out here. Some hunters, frustrated, I suppose, at not seeing anything to shoot at in the woods, set up some cans on fence posts along the road in front of my property and were shooting at them into my property. I phoned the police and , of course, by the time they arrived those idiots were long gone. The first thing the cop says to me when I explained what was going on was " You're not from around here are you?" I have since then learned that the idiots in the bush with guns and the cops are one and the same. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: Paco Rabanne Date: 29 Nov 05 - 08:54 AM 99 is the new 100! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: GUEST Date: 29 Nov 05 - 09:01 AM Perhaps there are good hunters..I've not met them. On my land they endanger my farm and domestic animals, shoot holes in windows,walls and rooves, leave garbage all over the place, churn up water holes and drinking areas on thier environmentally disastrous ATVs, hit male boxes with baseball bats and on and on and on. Me and my neighbours are afraid to complain because these nice little hobbiest have vowed to shoot our dogs if we call the police. This is not an unusual event in many rural areas and frankly I am tired of the bellyaching of this so called hobby group. Get a grown up hobby and leave the rest of us alone. Oh, I know, I just have a problem with a few bad apples. Not so...there are a lot of bad apples. It is time to ban this foolishness and give the rest of us rural dwellers some peace of mind every fall. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Trespassing Hunters From: jeffp Date: 29 Nov 05 - 09:10 AM While they are in the woods, their trucks are unattended, nicht wahr? This thread will give some ideas for revenge. Not that I'm advocating anything of the sort, you understand. wink wink; nudge nudge |
