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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Little Hawk Date: 27 May 10 - 11:40 AM Don, I think that the human race are angels in training, presently a bit confused by the painful limitations of their mortality. They can do far better, and I trust that they shall in time. We all have an absolutely tremendous potential for goodness and creativity, but we waste most of it mucking around in petty nonsense and fear-driven or appetite-driven behaviours of one sort or another. We waste it on revenge, of all things! Nevertheless I think we are very noble beings in our essential nature. Like I said...angels in training. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 27 May 10 - 12:00 PM Here is what I found post-trial: Guilty on 17 Counts, among them sedition, wire fraud, mail fraud, falsification of records. Manning demands that Columbia University be shut down for its "heinous, grievous crimes". Microsoft is also found guilty, incidentally. A "Press Conference" video May 21 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 27 May 10 - 12:02 PM Boy that sure showed 'em! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 27 May 10 - 12:43 PM Yep. A real show stopper. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 27 May 10 - 05:41 PM Little Hawk, once again you sit up there on your lofty perch and pontificate to all us primitive, savage human beans. In short, for a reasonably intelligent guy, once again you've put your brain out of gear, uttered "Shazam!!"and transformed yourself into "Pompous Super-Twit!" Then, clad in cape and tights, you dashed in to rescue the poor, downtrodden ichMael from all us savage, slavering Neanderthals. Give it a rest, will you? (No, of course you won't, because it's your thing!) You look at what's going on in this thread (and others) and assume that it consists of a bunch of schoolyard bullies, all savagely picking on the dumb, fat kid, and you've leapt in to rescue him, then chastise us all and put all us mean ol' bullies in our places. What's really going on here is that ichMael is terminally bent out of shape about an "uppity black boy" who had the sheer gall to run for president—and win! And ichMael simply chokes on that. Like the other "birthers," he can't stand it! So he comes up with every possible scenario his slimy though imaginative mind can think of: secretly a Muslim. Really born in Kenya—or Indonesia, or on Mars. A flagrant homosexual. Using a false name (called "Barry" when he was younger, when his real first name is "Barack"), which, of course, proves his not what he says he is! A Master Hypnotist who has the entire world in a trance. And on and on and on, ad barfium. All in the cause of trying fan the stench of hatred for the legally and Constitutionally elected President of the United States. Why? Because he's essentially liberally oriented. And—he is a black man. Suck it up, ichMael!! What you are missing here, Little Hawk, is that ichMael is not just posting stuff here on Mudcat, he's all over the internet, posting this same sort of venom. He's promulgating the kind of vicious lies and propaganda that the "birthers," and the more rabid Tea Party goons (a pretty rabid bunch to begin with, especially considering that many of them go armed to public political rallies and events!), and anyone and everyone else who is not happy with Obama, for whatever reason, lap up with glee. Four American presidents have been assassinated. And there have been multiple assassination attempts against no less than twenty other American presidents. And— President Barack Obama has been the target of several assassination threats and alleged plots since first becoming a presidential candidate in 2007. Secret Service protection for Obama began after a death threat in 2007, when he was still serving as the junior Senator from Illinois and running for president. Some commentators have suggested the unprecedented number of death threats against Obama are at least partially tied to racist imagery and words used by some of his critics to describe the president. Among the most serious threats were a plot by three men in Denver to shoot Obama during the 2008 Democratic National Convention, and a plot by two men in Tennessee to kill Obama as part of a planned murder spree targeting African Americans later that same year.In this political climate, there is many a potential John Wilkes Booth (Abraham Lincoln), Charles Guiteau (James A. Garfield), Leon Czolgosz (William McKinley) and Lee Harvey Oswald (John F. Kennedy). And then, of course, there was Sirhan Sirhan, who killed presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy. John Hinkley, Jr. shot and seriously wounded Ronald Reagan and three others, including White House Press Secretary James Brady, leaving him severely brain-damaged. And, of course, important national figures like the Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., assassinated by James Earl Ray. Why? Lots of people didn't like that he was speaking out for civil rights and against the Vietnam War. So—don't try to tell me that the loonies aren't out there. And there is not someone—maybe several someones—out there right now giving serious thought to trying to get himself into the history books by assassinating yet another president? And the sort of thing that hate-mongers like ichMael is posting here, AND on other web sites and forums all over the internet, is exactly the kind of venom that feeds and encourages these loonies. So it is the moral duty of any decent person who is aware of this sort of provocative hate-mongering to do whatever he or she can to try to counteract it. And when you, Little Hawk, put your oar in to defend people like ichMael from those who oppose what he is saying and doing— What sort of moral position does that put YOU in? Think about it! Don Firth P. S. And what I said to Little Hawk goes for you, too, Ake. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 27 May 10 - 08:55 PM lol. You make me laugh, Don. I couldn't get through your entire post but I'll slog through it all later. I don't think I've demonstrated racism here. I don't like Obama, but then I didn't like the Bushes or Clinton either. The problem with the Democrats is that they've been restricted to one talking point...racism. About a year ago if you were against what Obama did, you were racist, and now if you're against the federal govt, then that's code for anti-Obama racism. See how they're exploiting the racism angle and turning you into fanatical pro-govt people? And what's the federal govt done lately? Where the hell's the govt on the Gulf oil spill? (A black man's in charge, so I'm just a racist). Why the hell are we bombing Pakistan now? (Obama's a black man, so I'm just a racist). Why the hell did Obama sign off on ethanol legislation that will lead to the deaths of 330 million humans? (Obama's a black man, so I'm just a racist). How did that happen to you folks? Amazing. Let's see... Oh, I just updated the White House Homosexuality thing: http://www2.moment.net/~michael/HomosexualityWhiteHouse2.htm The update is merely a rehash of the story that broke a couple of days ago on Wayne Madsen Reports (a subscriber site). Bits and pieces have leaked out, but I think the guy at THIS blog copied and pasted the whole thing. Names of Obama's lovers, times and places. Read it for yourself. I don't have the will or desire to repeat the details, but I noticed that Madsen didn't mention actor Kal Penn. His name and some others are on other lists I've stumbled across the past couple of days. Obama's a real loverboy. (I said 'boy,' so I must be a racist). As far as the Manning thing, I made you look. That's about all that one can hope for. It turned out about like I feared it would. No big names on the stand = no media mention. A couple of the better articles I've come across on the thing are below (link maker doesn't work with the second one): http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2010/100519/ftpgObamaTrial.html http://www.examiner.com/x-47432-Baton-Rouge-Republican-Examiner~y2010m5d8-Trial-by-citizen-and-keeping-the-government-accountable And why do you folks chew on one another so? I poke around on the threads and read (folk music is what first brought me here), and a while back I saw y'all doing a hatchet job on Joni Mitchell because she's ill. Kee-rist. On a folk music site. Then you chew on your own longtime members...it's sure curious. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 27 May 10 - 09:06 PM lol. Don't tell me to suck it up, Don, not after what I've been reading about Obama's exploits. And I hope Obama lives to be a hundred, but in his home country of Kenya, or Indonesia, or wherever the hell his CIA-sponsored mama squeezed him out. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 27 May 10 - 09:16 PM . . . bloody insane. . . . Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Stringsinger Date: 27 May 10 - 09:36 PM The problem with selective breeding is that in the human species, it seldom works because the wrong genes are identified. The famous physicist whose genes were intended to be harvested via sperm samples said, "My kids all turned out to be guitar players. Instead of my sperm, you would have to go to my working class immigrant father to create someone like me." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: GUEST,TIA Date: 28 May 10 - 08:56 AM Oh yes. This is going to be huge. Mark it on your calendars folks. You heard it here first. Huge I'm tellin' ya. Huge! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 28 May 10 - 10:07 AM ""And I hope Obama lives to be a hundred, but in his home country of Kenya, or Indonesia, or wherever the hell his CIA-sponsored mama squeezed him out."" But of course you aren't a racist! Sheesh! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 28 May 10 - 10:07 AM ""And I hope Obama lives to be a hundred, but in his home country of Kenya, or Indonesia, or wherever the hell his CIA-sponsored mama squeezed him out."" But of course you aren't a racist! Sheesh! Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 28 May 10 - 10:09 AM Sorry about doing that in stereo folks. Don't know why that happened. Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Stringsinger Date: 28 May 10 - 10:44 AM I think that a combination of environmental control and the proper use of vaccines are necessary. Unfortunately, today, there are those who claim vaccines cause autism and have other unsubstantiated misgivings about their use. The use of vaccines in underdeveloped countries may outweigh their omission. The quality control of medicine is a problem everywhere but the alternative is anything from the black plague to rampant AIDS. Medical science is never perfect. But even a little of the right stuff goes a long way to stem infant mortality and rampant disease. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Amos Date: 28 May 10 - 11:39 AM Ich: It appears to me that ninety-nine percent of what you have been reading about Obama is pure-dee unmitigated horseshit. Unfortunately you don't seem to have the delicate discriminatory skills needed to tell the difference, so you're in the wholesale market for fairytales and codswallop, and are making these things into your way of life. When you grow upo this will all just be amusing to you. But you have to start soon or your face will get stuck in this mindset and you'll be Peter Pan forever... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 28 May 10 - 02:32 PM I'm afraid that the propellor beanie is going to have to be put on the dangerous toy list. The shaft on ichMael's propellor beanie came loose and it screwed itself into his brain. That accounts for this and a number of other threads. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 23 Jun 10 - 08:45 PM In the Indian village of Gaudiyan, well over half of the population have bone deformities, making them physically handicapped. Children are born normally but after they start drinking the fluoridated water, they begin to develop crippling defects in their hands and feet. "Due to the excess fluoride content in drinking water, the calcium intake is not absorbed in the body, causing disabilities and deformities," said Dr Amit Shukla, a neurophysician.... Fluoride is a waste by-product of the fertilizer and aluminum industry and it's also a Part II Poison under the UK Poisons Act 1972. Fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl FLUoride). USAF Major George R. Jordan testified before Un-American Activity committees of Congress in the 1950's that in his post as U.S.-Soviet liaison officer, the Soviets openly admitted to "Using the fluoride in the water supplies in their concentration camps, to make the prisoners stupid, docile, and subservient." The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany's Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. "How they are Exterminating Us" update. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 23 Jun 10 - 10:24 PM This spavined old horse staggered around the racetrack back in the 1950s. Same old nonsense and misinformation. In spite of people like ichMael, many communities with soft water began adding flouride to the drinking water. Net effect? Healtier teeth, fewer cavities. None of the effects the paranoids predicted. ichMael is the best argument I can think of in favor of making birth control retroactive. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 23 Jun 10 - 10:28 PM Oh my GOD! They're selling dihydrogen oxide at Piggly Wiggly! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 23 Jun 10 - 10:35 PM hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahah Did you ever read what was written? Did you understand it at all? Hahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahha |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: frogprince Date: 24 Jun 10 - 10:54 AM mousethief, get your facts straight! that's dihydrogenmonoxide. God only knows how many people that stuff has killed! I had a coworker who would go off on a ranting right wing kneejerk reaction to almost anything, no matter of how little significance. Someone left a satirical printout on the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide in the lunchroom. Our "conservative" buddy swore that whoever left that "commie pinko environmentalist" material there should be fired. I don't know if anyone ever told him that he was making an ass of himself one more time. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:30 PM True. But how many men's hearts have been dashed into the rocks of despair when they discover the beautiful blonde they've been dating has been the victim of dihydrogendioxide poisoning? I think we need to seriously fight against all the various dihydrogen oxides. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: frogprince Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:40 PM Ah. yes: that situation has gotten more complicated these days. Used to be, the lady might be able to keep up the ruse for awhile if she rinsed the carpets when she washed the drapes. Now, it seems like so many of them are going without carpeting, the poor guy might go indefinitely without learning the truth. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: mousethief Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:41 PM But from what I understand there's something to be said for the feel of the hard wood floor. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 24 Jun 10 - 01:46 PM Good job, FP. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jun 10 - 02:57 PM Breathing a pure oxygen atmosphere over a period of time can lead to carbon dioxide poisoning. The red blood cells get so overloaded with oxygen molecules that they can't take up the waste carbon dioxide the body produces and move it to the lungs where it can be exhaled. If oxygen can be that poisonous, then it only makes sense that it can't be beneficial to breathe it in any quantities at all! So it only makes sense to avoid breathing oxygen!! Don't say you haven't been warned!! Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 24 Jun 10 - 04:35 PM Thanks, Don. From now on, I'll stick to sniffing glue. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 24 Jun 10 - 04:45 PM Wanna be careful, though, I think that's what ichMael has been up to. Don Firth |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: ichMael Date: 09 Aug 10 - 11:55 PM Is Bill Gates the most evil man in America? Gates Foundation Contributes to Genocidal Organization -- The National Council of La Raza (La Raza is Spanish for "The Race") is a radical political organization. It supports the supremacy of Hispanics and calls for the killing of all non-hispanics. In 1995 one of the organization's founders, Jose Angel Gutierrez, said, "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is that if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him." In 2002 the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation gave $6,661,364 to La Raza. Gates Sr. was involved in population reduction with Planned Parenthood, but junior is taking a more aggressive approach. He's contributing to organizations that endorse mass murder. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Ebbie Date: 10 Aug 10 - 12:38 AM From Wikipedia: "The National Council of La Raza (NCLR) is a non-profit and non-partisan advocacy group in the United States.[1] It is not to be confused with La Raza Unida. Its stated focus is on reducing poverty and discrimination, and improving opportunities for Hispanics. According to the organization's website, it is "the largest national Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization in the United States" and "serves all Hispanic subgroups in all regions of the country".[1] NCLR receives funding from philanthropic organizations, such as the Ford Foundation, and corporations such as Citigroup and Wal-Mart. NCLR serves its constituency by means of its Affiliates, nearly 300 community-based organizations. The NCLR is headquartered in Washington, D.C. and maintains eight regional offices in Atlanta, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Phoenix, Sacramento, San Antonio, and San Juan, Puerto Rico. The current president is Janet Murguía.[2]" There, now. Don't you feel better now? I know how important truth and accuracy are to you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: The Fooles Troupe Date: 10 Aug 10 - 12:50 AM "many communities with soft water began adding flouride to the drinking water. Net effect? Healthier teeth, fewer cavities. None of the effects the paranoids predicted" Sorry to be a bore - but many of my teeth were damaged (read MORE cavities) due to too much fluoride "more will be better attitude" - I got it in the drinking water, I got my teeth rinsed with extra stuff very regularly at the dentist, fluoride toothpaste, etc.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Donuel Date: 10 Aug 10 - 01:11 AM This reminds me of my short story about immortality treatments that only folks like the Gates family could afford, which leads to a form of eugenics. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Eugenics -- evidence all around you From: Don Firth Date: 10 Aug 10 - 02:18 PM Speaking of eugenics, abortion, and such things, ichMael is the best argument I can think of for making birth control retroactive. Don Firth |
