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BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th...
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 16 Mar 12 - 04:38 AM Speedy recovery, Bob. If they fit yer with a hook, don't fergit- never scratch yer eye. RtS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Nigel Paterson Date: 16 Mar 12 - 04:42 AM Pain is Nature's way of reminding us that She's the one who is ultimately in charge. Nevertheless, taking pain killers is something YOU'RE in charge of, so you can fool 'The Old Girl' some of the time. Take the tabs & make yourself comfy! With Love, Nigel & Ann xxxxxxxxx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 12 - 06:58 AM Seems that yer never too old to learn new tricks or relearn some old ones...Really thought I was going to sleep thru the night last night.. Well, 2:07 am and I'm wide awake looking for Tylelol.. Reckon I'll get it figured out that I have had some purdy stout surgery here.. B~ t |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Rapparee Date: 16 Mar 12 - 10:51 AM I'm going to send the P-vine a big mallet to use to help you sleep. Of COURSE you woke up in the night! Geez, dude, you had a guy doing some serious cuttin' on ya. You got this body, right? It's gotta heal in it's own way, and waking you up is just its way of asking, "Hey, are they through yet? 'Cause I'm gittin' plumb tired of being whittled on and rearranged." Woke up this mornin' it was too damned early, Posted to Mudcat, tried to git back to sleep Dropped some more meds, couldn't find 'em on the floor Surgery sucks, they treat you like meat. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bettynh Date: 16 Mar 12 - 02:25 PM Dammit, Bobert, I said it on the other thread and I'll say it again. THROW AWAY THE TYLENOL. You're already taking it in the stuff the doc prescribed. It's very easy to OD on, and it'll damage your liver. Get some Motrin (ibuprofen) or Naprosyn (naproxen) or even aspirin, but NO TYLENOL. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 12 - 05:26 PM okay!!! But the doc said to use it between doses of the perscription stuff??? What gives... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bettynh Date: 16 Mar 12 - 05:39 PM Yep, it was the NURSES and PHARMACISTS that kept track of the daily dose when I was working an orthopedic ward. More is better with the narcs, but not the tylenol. If you develop liver failure he won't see the connection, either. He'll hand you off to an internal med guy and blame you for drinking too much. Try asking - you'll likely have dead air, then agreement that Motrin would be ok, too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: YorkshireYankee Date: 16 Mar 12 - 06:57 PM Hang in there... hope it stops hurting soon! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Rapparee Date: 16 Mar 12 - 10:11 PM You CAN OD on Tylenol (acetaminophen). You can also OD on ibuprofen (7,000mg will do it) -- trust me on that, my wife has had ibu poisoning). You gotta WATCH WHAT YOU TAKE!! Now, about the pain. Go get a rubber bone (gotta be rubber). Put it between your teeth and let the P-vine take a belt sander to your leg (extra-coarse grit). It'll feel sooooooooooo good when she stops.... In the meantime, read Corinthians III: The Way Named Straight, Tarsus, Province of Syria. My Dear Corinthians: I, Paul, by the will of God an unworthy apostle, again write you in fellowship and with a good will. I must once again remonstrate with you, and must tell you again in no uncertain terms to shape up! Don't make me come over there, you hear? You'll be sorry if you do! By the way, I've written to you twice -- don't you know it's very rude not to reply to letters? Sincerely yours, Paul. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 16 Mar 12 - 10:17 PM Looks like another sleepless night in North Carolina... Gettin' used to 'um... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: LilyFestre Date: 16 Mar 12 - 11:01 PM Bobert, Being awake and in pain sucks...especially during the night. Does anything give you relief? A certain position maybe? Put on some music that relaxes you, grab a book or do something that interests you. On those many long nights when I had pain from my chemo, I spent time making montages online. It was fun and in the end I had something neat to show for it. Or sit and cry. I did plenty of that too. I don't know if you are a praying kind of guy but there were many, many nights when I couldn't sleep so God and I would chat and eventually I would drift off. And I slept better alone during that time. I love my husband but I needed to have room to thrash around, toss and turn and be miserable if need be. He was a good egg and didn't take it personally....maybe that might help. We are all so different. Know that you're in my thoughts and prayers. And you know what else helps me sleep? Vicks Vapor Rub. True story. Love you friend. This too shall pass. XOXOXOOX Michelle |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: GUEST Date: 17 Mar 12 - 08:31 AM Well, I'm late to the party...again. Hope it gets better fast, my hillbilly brother and down the road neighbor! Let me know when you're up to it, and I'll stop by with some home made brew and some git-boxes. Pain killers and blues. A worthy combination. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Blues=Life Date: 17 Mar 12 - 08:35 AM Dang it, I ain't no guest... what happened to my cookie?!?!?! Sorry about that, Bobert, that last one was me... let me know when you're up for some homemade IPA, I gots a real hops monster that will cure you up lots better than that Natural Light stuff... Heal quickly, my friend. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 12 - 09:03 AM Yes, Michelle... I am the praying type and firmly believe in prayer... It's waht finally got me down around 3 this morning... Hopefully, I'll do better tonight... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: maeve Date: 17 Mar 12 - 09:10 AM It will get better, Bobert. Hope you've talked to your doctor/nurse/someone handling your case. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: jacqui.c Date: 17 Mar 12 - 09:37 AM One day further away from the operation and another day closer to healing. I remember what it was like having carpel tunnel decompressions about 20 years back. It damn well hurt! Here's to less pain with each day from now on. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Rapparee Date: 17 Mar 12 - 10:02 AM Bobert, my right arm still hurts from surgery in December. It's GONNA hurt. It's gonna hurt like hell. But be a MAN, suck it up and treat it like a REAL MAN would -- with crying, whimpering, complaining and bitching (at least that's what my wife tells me). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Mooh Date: 17 Mar 12 - 10:19 AM Get well soon! Peace, Mooh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 12 - 11:15 AM Ain't about being a man... I know fully well about pain... I am a polio survivor and it was only thru a year's worth of intense pain that was able walk again... So I can do pain... Just seems that this time I can do pain or I can do sleep but not both... I haven't had more than 3 hours of uninterupted sleep since last Tuesday night... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Richard Bridge Date: 17 Mar 12 - 11:48 AM I don't normally manage more than 3 hours continuous sleep, but with diligence about getting back to sleep can get over 8 hours a night. Normal pattern 2 hours sleep, a bit of prowling about, 2 to 3 hours sleep then a bit of prowling about, then 3 or 4 hours nice restful sleep that has to be ended to start the day only a little late. I usually get longer better sleep of I go out to the caravan, next best is the biggest sofa, and least wonderful any of the 5 bedrooms in my house (but at least the best of them is mine)! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Nigel Paterson Date: 17 Mar 12 - 12:02 PM Bobert, hope you have a restful & pain free weekend, With Love, Nigel & Ann xxxxxxxxx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 12 - 12:02 PM Wish that were me. Rich... If I wake up it generally for 2 hours or more... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: gnu Date: 17 Mar 12 - 01:18 PM Say... I forgot who said to keep your hand above the level of you heart.. Jeri? Anyway, what about a couple of fluffy pillows to keep that hand "up"? Or tie it to the bedpost. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: maeve Date: 17 Mar 12 - 01:35 PM (((Tired, hurting, Bobert))) - Did you read ALL of Rap's latest post? "...treat it like a REAL MAN would -- with crying, whimpering, complaining and bitching. So holler all you need to. As for sleep- you can survive with so little sleep for quite a while. Suggest you sleep when you can, rest when you can, distract yourself when you can. Talk with the doc or his cohorts as soon as you can and as often as you need to. Things truly will improve. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 17 Mar 12 - 01:47 PM Actually, the arm is in a large foam rubber contraption that keeps the hand elevated... I've had to make some "adjustments" with sizzors an extra padding here and there and have been working on another contraption of my own design to keep my fingers straighter... They tend to want to curl to avoid pulling on the cut tendons... I'll get thru this... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Sandra in Sydney Date: 18 Mar 12 - 05:30 AM keep doing what you're doing & you'll keep healing slowly & steadily sandra |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 18 Mar 12 - 07:46 AM Yea!!! Got 8 hours sleep last night... Doesn't much matter that it took 12 hours to pull it off...lol... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: maeve Date: 18 Mar 12 - 07:49 AM That's wonderful, Bobert. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Richard Bridge Date: 18 Mar 12 - 08:37 AM Er - pull what off? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Rapparee Date: 18 Mar 12 - 11:42 AM Well, he's gotta do SOMETHING laying there in bed. I just hope that they can put it back on for him. Can't say he wasn't warned, though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: jacqui.c Date: 18 Mar 12 - 11:58 AM I thought they managed to do the thumb without resorting to spare parts? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: ChanteyLass Date: 18 Mar 12 - 12:56 PM It's a spiral. Lack of sleep causes pain to feel worse. Pain causes lack of sleep. Meds may be affecting your normal sleep pattern. That's something else to discuss with your doc--or maybe a nurse practitioner if one works with your doc. NPs are sometimes better listeners and if one has worked with several docs, an NP may be less locked into one way of medicating patients. I think some docs get into a rut of prescribing the same thing, while and NP may have seen a variety of doctors try different things. I'm hoping for less pain and more sleep for you, starting now! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Big Al Whittle Date: 18 Mar 12 - 07:35 PM Sorry it hurts Bob. Have they tried you with Oromorph - morphine based? I get on with Tramadol - those some people say it sends them tripping, The strongest, I ever took was for tri geminal neuralgia - that was callled Kapaki It stopped the pain, but I had to stop gigging as it emptied my mind of the lyrics of songs that I'd been singing every night for years. The point is, you need an effective painkiller to sleep, and you need to sleep and relax - just to mend and stabilise your condition - temp, blood pressure, etc. Best wishes to you - I hope you're soon back up there on the sidewalk. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 18 Mar 12 - 10:49 PM It's not the pain as much as this friggin' 2 ft x 2 ft foam rubber contraption that they insist I wear at night to keep my arm up... Okay, it's the pain, too... But the contraption says "you will only sleep on your back, Bobert"... So sleep ain't easy... I got 5 more days of the foam rubber monster and then i'm going to blow it the hell up... I swear I will.. Yeah, I'll be calling the doc in the am... "Get me some pills that will get me to sleep doc or I'm coming down an' gonna do a little doc'in' on you.."... Tell ya'll what... This better had work... I mean, to go thru this so I'll be able to ply geetar again??? Better work... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Charley Noble Date: 19 Mar 12 - 08:09 AM I do remember how awkward it was to have to sleep on my back when I managed to fracture my shoulder several decades ago. After three or four weeks I got used to the position. You'll just have to tough out the five days and then do some additional spiritual healing with a match and a soup can full of gasoline, but stand backkkk!!!!!! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Nigel Paterson Date: 19 Mar 12 - 08:40 AM Bobert, how do you feel today? With Love, Nigel & Ann xxxxxxxxx |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 19 Mar 12 - 08:50 AM Another one - night, that is - behind me... Tell ya'll what... After this I will never look at bedtime quite the same... You know, going to sleep and waking up 7-8 hours later rather than fighting to sleep an' being awake 45 minutes ater... But, it's another one behind me... (((yawn))) B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bill D Date: 19 Mar 12 - 12:29 PM Sleep.. Bobert... I got a small prescription for Ambien. I actually cut them in 4 pieces and take 1/4 if I wake up...or to get off to sleep.If that seems not to work after 1/2 hr. or so, I take a 2nd 1/4 piece. It works 'pretty fast'. I am not sure how it reacts with pain meds. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: gnu Date: 19 Mar 12 - 02:30 PM Bobert... part of not "being able" to sleep on your back is your mind telling you that you can't. You can. I had to learn to do it so I started off by propping myself up a bit and I had to experiment to get the right angle. Same thing with teaching myself to lie FLAT face down with head turned and with my arms fully extended by my sides... THAT was very difficult but it had to be done to stop the carpal and cubital tunnel problems in both arms which occured during my weight loss (I lost about 80 pounds of fat and 20 pounds of muscle so that when I curled my arms up while sleeping it stressed the nerves). I know that's TMI but it demonstrates that it can be done. Ya know, I just had a thought... unfortunate you were not warned long ago to practice different sleeping positions before the op. Mention it to the doc. Such a suggestion may help others in future. Once again, bud, I hope you heal fast and well and get some sleep. Ya gonna talk to the nurse or doc about the meds? Is the pain subsiding at all? I'd love to see a pic of that riggin-friggin. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bill D Date: 19 Mar 12 - 02:40 PM riggin' friggin' |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: ChanteyLass Date: 19 Mar 12 - 03:49 PM Ah! I had thought you could sleep on the side that doesn't have the foam thingy. Apparently not. Have you tried listening to lullabies? (Kidding!) I hope you feel better soon. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Rapparee Date: 19 Mar 12 - 03:56 PM Zolpidem (generic Ambien). It's NOT habit forming and you could take it only when you need it. It works okay, at least for me, with hydrocodone and T3/T4. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 19 Mar 12 - 07:30 PM Five more days and the foam rubber monster is getting blown the f' up and I can sleep anyway I want to... Not enough time to relearn "Sleeping 001"... I'll manage even if it means up and down half the night... Ain't the kinda up and down half the night I'd like but it will have to do for now... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 19 Mar 12 - 09:19 PM What??..No lobotomy??? Winkin' at ya' GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 19 Mar 12 - 09:41 PM Nah, GfinS... They were runnin' a 2-for-1 special that day but I forget to bring my coupon... Maybe next time... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 19 Mar 12 - 09:44 PM Hey, I got an extra one..want it? GfS |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bill D Date: 19 Mar 12 - 10:22 PM (yes.. Zolpidem tartrate is what I have... costs me $10 for a 2 month supply... it is the best bargain in meds I have.... I SLEEP) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 20 Mar 12 - 07:52 AM I've gotten getting to sleep down... Stayin' asleep??? Different story... Seems that my arm has developed a hate-hate relationship with "the box"... It tried to extricate itself last night while I was asleep and that little family fued woke me up because in attempting the escape act it put alot of pressure on the incision site making it feel like qa couple of wasps had gotten under the soft cast and were stinging the crud out of me... I will have to get "the box" and the arm together fir a little talk and see if some accommodations can be made before tonight... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Rapparee Date: 20 Mar 12 - 10:39 AM Just remind them both that you have a Constitutional right to arms and they'd better learn to live with it. Remind them that shortly you'll be able to bear bare arms, so they'd better look out! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Bobert Under the Knife March 14th... From: Bobert Date: 20 Mar 12 - 11:09 AM Yeah, ya'll... Behave or I'll blow both you sumabiches up... Ya' hear??? B~ |
