BS: Blair the hypocrite

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 08 Apr 07 - 09:43 AM

Well done Tony your diplomatic approach worked

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: dianavan
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 04:51 PM

2A2RA - explained it well. "As far as the TV images being all show it still makes Iran look better than the US."

Thats exactly what I was referring to and I mean today, not somewhere in the past. If you compare the way the 15 Brits were handled to the way the the U.S. handles their detainees, Iran definitely comes out on top. Its a propaganda war and Iran is winning in the court of public opinion. Who cares if 15 Brits say they were kept in solitary and 'psychologically' tortured? Lets see the hoods, the bended knees, the bloody faces, the bruises, the noose and the bowed heads. Thats what we saw the U.S. doing to their detainees and Blair is cheering the U.S. admininstration and everything they do.

Yes, Iran has a terrible human rights record. They are a theocracy. Of the list you provided, Peace, there are perhaps 14 possible incidents of torture. Compare that to the number of people who are being tortured by the Bush and his lapdog, Blair, the defenders of democracy!

Weelittledrummer - Get over it. This is not about your teen-aged rebellion. Start paying attention instead of reacting to fear and propaganda. Iraq had nothing to do with 911 or terrorism. It is the occupation of Iraq by the U.S. that is responsible for the recent recruiting of terrorists.

The U.S. does not want the democratically elected majority, Shiite government to succeed. Iran is helping the Shiites of Iraq. It is the al-Qaeda/Sunni/Arabs who are responsible for the insurgency, the terror and most of the murders occurring in Iraq. Who do you think might be helping them and why?

Figure it out.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 04:30 PM

That's not a dig at anyone.

The US, Britain, Iran, Iraq,--name it, have been funding terrorist organizations. The only commonality is that plain folks in this world are paying for the shit governments do. The world has more wars going on, millions starving, people being slaughtered, and I'd ask this: Is anyone here in favour of that stuff? They are bastards all. Too many people here think their bastard is more righteous than the other guy's. I gotta hot flash for y'all. They's bastards, plain and simple. And all the 'he pushed me back first' ain't gonna accomplish jackshit.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 04:21 PM

"just a gang of thugs pretending to be the angels of death"

Lots of that going around. I wonder where the funding is coming from?

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Barry Finn
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 04:15 PM

Now, now, weelittledrummer, you want to be condscending towards me & peg me in a hole with your parents, with whom you should show more respect for their leftist ways then back yourself up some & check out our own self first. You do flag wave for your Queen & country, you back the part & play of the Blair & Bush policy so as I see it your shoe fits well so keep on wearing it. I'll let you know if I see any of those bogeymen on my streets or yours but the ones that were here were no from any nation that we've attacked. In fact they represented no nation at all, just a gang of thugs pretending to be the angels of death. ANd here you go on beliving that they were sent by Iran or Iraq. Get real.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 04:01 PM

They are on my streets and your streets - it must take an act of willful blindness not to notice the odd tube station and world trade centre going off with a pop occasionally.

And don't you dare accuse me of being a Queen and country patriot - you monstrous blob of moral superiority!

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Barry Finn
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 03:26 PM

Weelittledrummer, if ya don't want your young people falling into the hands of people who's records show monstrrous cruelty then don't send them there. Otherwise wait until they come to your shores & start their patrols. But if you think that what we're doing in the middle east is somewhat of a noble adventure or gesture you keep puffy & blowing & beating your chest that will do you fine. As far as whose paying for the murders in Iraq, the allied nations are paying for them & commiting them, if you still think that 9/11 had something to do with Iraq & us being there then you can keep believing it if you need to, I don't. Are we now policing nations according to Amnesty International. We'd be far better off tending our own gardens of delight 1st. But seeing that all is so well with you & yours feel free to invade others & bring the democratic process down on the heads of innocent people while stripping them of the few rights that they might've once had & replace those with their own blood. We're doing a fine job at it wouldn't ya say. Keep cheering, you got God & the King on your side.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 03:08 PM

Well Barry - theres hypocrisy, and then again there's hypocrisy.

I sort of know where people like you and Diana are coming from . My parents were very very left wing. They thought Kruschev was the hero of the Cuba missile crisis - a model of self restraint, despite the fact that he had enslaved half of of Europe.

Similarly I think you are turning your back on the fact that SOMEONE is paying for all these murders going on in Iraq, and stopping democratic process being set up there. Someone is behind all these terrible things like 9/11 - recruiting young people as Muslim terrorists. And ones attention is immediately grabbed by those who walk the walk and talk the talk.

Its pretty bloddy silly prancing round with a few technical infringements of England and America in war situations that Amnesty has come up with - rather than the truck load of depostions that Amnesty has come up with againg Iran.

if you need it for a sense of identity - fair enough, but jeering at the discomfiture of the English as they watch a group of their young people fall into the hands of people whos records of monstrous cruelty. Well it makes you look just plain weird.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Barry Finn
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 02:23 PM

Part of what I see is that in oder to show that Iran isn't worth supporting, Iran's policies are being thrown up like a window shade & their the same policies & practices that I see in the same nations that on the window shade next door. One deserves no better treatment or exposure the the other or no worst either but don't go holding one up next to the other in a picturesque fashion without showing them or all in the same light. There's quite a bit of shading going on here.

I do agree that Iran has some big time persnally qurkes but Iran isn't over here patroling within site of any of my borders that I can see nor do I hear about them off the British coast either. You are throwing stones in a glass house.

Blair is not only a hypocrite he's far worst & like Bush does not deserve the support of their people & it's just the same in Iran. They ingauge in the same atrocities & their records are in now way to be held up as a comparison for anyone to proudly veiw.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 02:18 PM

>>Dianavan..you are as easily if not more easily conned than the next person. Do you really believe all you have written on this thread in your 'stand alone' views? We are fed information from various sources and yours is only one....whose source is correct is a matter of conjecture but you are so obviously always right we cannot present an adequate argument against your fine words.
Not sure if it has been fed back to you yet but on UK TV, the picture being painted is of the 'Hostages' from our Navy/marines were mostly kept in solitary confinement....they were blindfolded and guns were cocked behind them..making them believe they were going to be shot...they had no other choice but to go along with the TV interviews and the supposed 'fun time' they were having which was being presented to the press. They knew they were in Iraqui waters not Iranian but under duresse had to admit to it and apologise on TV
Iran has certainly made a coup of some sort....with you anyway!!
Blair made all the right decisions! They paid off!<<

I suppose you think your source is the only one that's right. You don't anymore about what went on than I do. And I claim to know nothing at all about it mainly because I don't care. Iran was in their rights to do what they did and it wasn't anything the US and Britain wouldnn't have done under the same circumstances.

As far as the TV images being all show it still makes Iran look better than the US. We can't even do that right. When we show pictures of how we treat Muslim detainees, I'll guarantee you people around the world recoiled way more than they did when they saw pictures of the British detainees. About the only people recoiling at that are Britons and Americans who, quite frankly, aren't deserving of sympathy after telling the rest of the world to shove diplomacy up their ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 01:53 PM

Part of the problem with this thread is the thread. It begins with the premise that Blair is a hypocrite (which he may or may not be) and in order to prove he is, it requires people to either tacitly or explicitly support Iran. Iran at present is not a country worth supporting. It has a miserable human rights recortd and has had for decades. People then say that was caused by the USA (and Russia had its hands in there, too) and whether or not that is true, it does not deal with the fact that TODAY, Iran is repressive, and in some ways barbaric.

So, people dig into Persian history and support how civilized Iran is! NO! That is how civilized Iran WAS.

Case in point. I posted to a thread where 'Christian' countries were taking the piss for all the invasions they have done. In fact, the thread argument had shifeted to the Crusades and the slaughters of people done by 'Christians'. My post named countries that had been invaded by 'Islam' hundreds of years ago. Fact is, Muslims are no more peaceful than Christians. The problem is one of what's arguable and what isn't. When a person has to support a country like Iran in order to slag a nation like the UK, it simply means people are saying they think Iranian bastards are better than British bastards.

How many of you support the government of Iran: its abuse of citizens, specifically women; its gun running, its contributions to the deaths of children in other countries? How many of you?

Wait. I can hear it now: The USA caused it. Bullshit. The Neocons in Iran are NO better than the Neocons in the USA or Britain for that matter. Check your own morality in this issue. You support a theocracy, the same theocracy you dislike in the USA. Give it a rest yourself. Make another point.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 01:32 PM

Don't be so aggressive, Barry. The post was for WLD. Yes, Iran abuses its citizens. I think your country abuses its citizens, but just because I didn't take the opportunity to slag the USA in that post should not be read by you as an indication I think the USA does not deserve slagging. Canada has its issues also.

I think Iran is one of the more repressive governments in the world. I don't give a shit whether or not you agree with me.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Barry Finn
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 01:24 PM

And this shows us what Peace? That their society may be slightly more opressive than ours? We're not that different in our treatment of our own or of our treatment of others for that matter. Try to make another point.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 01:04 PM

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Amnesty International's Human Rights Concerns for Iran »
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Up to nine women and two men in Iran are under sentence of execution by stoning, including one woman who was convicted of adultery and who claimed she was forced into prostitution. Amnesty International's Secretary General Irene Khan has called on the Iranian government to abolish stoning on the occasion of the fourth World Day Against the Death Penalty on October 10, 2006.


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Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: s&r
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 12:59 PM

100

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 09:25 AM

Really what....?

you'd have to poke about the Amnesty website to see if its still the case. the allegations were certainly around a long time.

as for the US involvement - all I can say is that it seemed that way at the time.

When the Shah was in power there was general chorus of disapproval from most left tingers in England.He had a secret police and they used torture. Private Eye called him The Shit of Iran.,

However he wanted a westernised country. There was a sharp intake of breath when he appeared on Panorama and he pointed out his country had a popul;ation size not to different from England and his aim was that they should be similar sorts of countries.

To this end English public schools and Technical Colleges and Universities had loads of Iranian students getting 'westernised' as best they could.


The shah was deposed - he always claimed it was because England and America had withdrawn military and economic support due to pressure from ill informed left wingers.

Somehow it became known that when Khomeini returned, things would kick off bigtime. there would be an Islamic revolution such as the world had never seen before. However Khomeini was in Paris, where he had lived in exile - under surveillance and something of an unknown quantity. Would he allowed to back and initiate a new dark age?

the decision to seemed devolve upon the shoulder of the then British Foreign Secretatry, David Owen and his American opposite number (Andy Young....I think). Owen and Young were good mates - they weny ogging in Hyde Park together followed by some sort of perfuctory conference and Khomeini (described somewhere as holy man -some kind of saint) was set loose.


There was a feeling not long after that Owen had fucked up bigtime on this issue.

That was a worms eye view of what happened. I may have it all wrong, but thats how it seemed.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: guitar
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 07:22 AM

really!

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 07:12 AM

Iran is the country where(within living memory) they used to routinely rape children detainees because their religion didn't permit them to execute virgins.

It has one of the worse records, if not the worst record on human rights with Amnesty International, in the world. It defers to no international court or tribunal, so you won't find any judgements against it.

the idea of those buggers having the moral highground of anywhere outside of Auswitchz would be laughable, if it were slightest bit funny.

The Iranians are one of the most cultured and civilised people in the world, bu they have a really shit government. Originally eased into power by the US in the 70's.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: ard mhacha
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 06:21 AM

How to treat innocent prisoners, read John McGuffin`s, Internment and The Guinea Pigs, both free on the Web, Britain found guilty twice by the European Court of Human Rights for, Inhuman and Degrading treatment of Irish detainees.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 05:28 AM

A lot of people weren't fooled by those pictures of the hostages enjoying themselves. They were also threatened with 7 years hard labour if they didn't confess.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 07 Apr 07 - 05:06 AM

Dianavan..you are as easily if not more easily conned than the next person. Do you really believe all you have written on this thread in your 'stand alone' views? We are fed information from various sources and yours is only one....whose source is correct is a matter of conjecture but you are so obviously always right we cannot present an adequate argument against your fine words.
Not sure if it has been fed back to you yet but on UK TV, the picture being painted is of the 'Hostages' from our Navy/marines were mostly kept in solitary confinement....they were blindfolded and guns were cocked behind them..making them believe they were going to be shot...they had no other choice but to go along with the TV interviews and the supposed 'fun time' they were having which was being presented to the press. They knew they were in Iraqui waters not Iranian but under duresse had to admit to it and apologise on TV
Iran has certainly made a coup of some sort....with you anyway!!
Blair made all the right decisions! They paid off!

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: dianavan
Date: 06 Apr 07 - 11:39 PM

In regard to Blair's righteous indignation -

"Suddenly, it was a new day with Bush and Blair fully committed to international law. Even a relatively minor Geneva transgression, such as filming captives eating, became a justification for unrestrained outrage."

This is an excellent article. Well worth the read. Its about the U.S./Britain and their double standards.

...and I do think Iran did a good job of exposing the hypocricy of so-called "western values". They never said a thing about it, they just showed the world what the U.S. and Britain are all about. Anyone who still thinks the U.S. and Britain are somehow morally superior will have to re-think the way they treat their hostages compared to the way Iran treated theirs.

Iran definitely has the moral high road and this has not been lost on other countries, especially in the Middle East.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Barry Finn
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 06:36 AM

"What I fail to understand is why the Iraqis have to lobby the U.S. for the release of Iranians captured in Iraq."

Iraq is now a US colony & no longer an occupied nation!

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Blindlemonsteve
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 05:58 AM

Dianavan just a quick note to a previous post...about Britain surviving Military pressure all alone.......1940......Britain stood alone in its fight against the Nazi threat, the soviets had cosied up to hitler and shared poland, France had fallen, the U.S was giving aid, this is true, but not arms, they were also getting ready to do business with a Nazi europe, whatever your thoughts are, you can not take away from the British people of that generation the fact that they suffered harshly, and stood together alone. and that standing, allowed for the opening of the western front a few years later.
Sorry, i wasnt going to get back into this thread, but i felt i had to on this point...
Bye for now

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: s&r
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 05:00 AM

Not much happening in BC then?

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: dianavan
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 03:31 AM

What I fail to understand is why the Iraqis have to lobby the U.S. for the release of Iranians captured in Iraq.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 05 Apr 07 - 03:08 AM

So these two guys...hard men...meet in a pub and one feels the other is looking at him in the wrong way...get my drift?...so he flexes his muscles and approaches him. "Why are you looking at me like that"?
His hackles immediately raised, the other guy replies that he will look where he likes, at who he likes and when he likes. An exchange ensues with both flexing their muscles and prancing around aggressively until one says "I will back off now as a present to you"

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 11:42 PM

"Iranian officials have said that the men are diplomats. Hoshyar Zebari, the Iraqi foreign minister and a Kurd, said in a telephone interview on Tuesday that although the men being held were not officially diplomats, they had nevertheless been acting as liaisons between Iraq and Iran."

Lots of people are having difficulties 'getting it straight'.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: dianavan
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 10:40 PM

"The Iraqi Foreign Ministry continues to push for the release of five Iranians detained during a U.S. military raid in January, Iraq's Deputy Foreign Minister Labid Abawi told CNN on Tuesday."

As we all know, there are two sides to every story so be sure to read why Iraqi, Kurd and Iranian stories differ from the U.S. story. It seems to center around whether the Iranians were diplomats and whether or not the meeting place was an embassy and/or consulate.

Apparently the Iranians were invited by the Kurds and the U.S. raided the place and arrested the wrong guys in a case of mistaken identities. Iraq is lobbying for their release.

Let me know when you have it figured out.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:37 PM

LOL

Too true. But I'd still like to know what THEY are doing there. Probably the same thing as the US. Looking for Saddam Hussein and WMDs.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: GUEST,282RA
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 09:21 PM

>>What were those Iranians doing in Iraq?<<

The Iranians?? What the fuck are WE doing there??

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:17 PM

It's still up in the air whether or not the Brits were over the line that doesn't exist. However, the Iranians pulled a beautiful PR move in the way they released the prisoners. It would be good if Bush released the Iranians he's holding in Iraq, but he's probably too slow on the uptake to clue in to that. Of course, it begs the question: What were those Iranians doing in Iraq? Does anyone know (no, not you, Ms. I don't need the party line.)

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:10 PM

Eat shit, Dianavan.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: dianavan
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 06:49 PM

Take a downer, Peace.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: dianavan
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 06:23 PM

I certainly haven't seen anything that says Britain has a U.N. mandate to search merchant vessels for smuggled cars. Perhaps they thought the vessel was smuggling parts for nuclear reactors or weapons but that doesn't make sense either (unless the vessel was going to Iran). I thought it was very clear that the cars were on their way to Iraq. Besides that, we don't even know for sure what flag the merchant vessel was flying, where it came from or where it was bound.

The whole thing was very fishy and if the Brits can't explain it, no wonder Iran had their nose out of joint.

I'm glad the Brits were returned with only a little slap on the hand. I wish Bush would follow suit and return the Iranians or at least confirm their well-being. Who knows where they are and what has happened to that unfortunate lot.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:41 PM

Ain't that the truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:21 PM

Being released without apology by anyone...just as a gift to Britain.... I was once given a jack-in-the-box...... I also had a 'Trojan Horse' on my comp...... A very nice gesture if done with no motive other than to improve relationships.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:13 PM

However, that kinda makes the "we were looking for cars" statement a bit out to lunch.

The marines and sailors are being released and they'll leave Iran on Thursday (tomorrow).

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:11 PM

Barry,

The closest I could come is Resolution 1737. Here's a link to it. (Scroll down a bit.) Please see Article 7 on p.4 of the document.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Barry Finn
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 07:06 AM

Smuggled cars? and I'm selling the Broklyn Bridge! I doubt that they wanted them to find anything, it's not klike anyone's sending out invitations. What were the Brits hoping to find? Smuggled cars?

Can anyone find references that says the Brits were mandated by the UN to patrol these waters in the 1st place, I can't & that seems to be an issue that's floating under the bridge & one that Russia's been questioning.

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 05:42 AM

Dianavan...you seem to 'come across' as being the 'expert' on the situation......what did the Iranians not want them to find on the cargo vessel please?

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 05:39 AM

Into these hands have fallen fifteen young people who were not being aggressive towards Iran.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 05:21 AM

Into these hands have fallen fifteen young people who go out and fight for us for not very much money.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 02:14 AM

"Iran

Respect for basic human rights in Iran, especially freedom of expression and opinion, deteriorated considerably in 2005. The government routinely uses torture and ill-treatment in detention, including prolonged solitary confinement, to punish dissidents. The judiciary, which is accountable to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, has been at the center of many serious human rights violations. Abuses are perpetrated by what Iranians call "parallel institutions": paramilitary groups and plainclothes intelligence agents violently attack peaceful protesters, and intelligence services run illegal secret prisons and interrogation centers. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, elected in June 2005, appointed a cabinet dominated by former members of the intelligence and security forces, some of whom are allegedly implicated in the most serious human rights violations since the Islamic Republic of Iran was established twenty-six years ago, such as the assassination of dissident intellectuals."

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:32 AM

None of your fucking business, Dianavan.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Donuel
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:30 AM

Blair wakes up and tells his wife;
"I just dreamed we won the war"
What war dear?
"It was, it was, oh nevermind, it was the Falklands"

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: dianavan
Date: 04 Apr 07 - 12:01 AM

Do you feel that way about all religions or just his religion?

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 03 Apr 07 - 10:05 PM

He is a religious fuckwit.

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: dianavan
Date: 03 Apr 07 - 10:03 PM

Yes, and he has said that if Iran is assaulted, they will strike back. What makes him so different, politically, than any other head of state? Don't most countries want to defend their territory?

Subject: RE: BS: Blair the hypocrite
From: Peace
Date: 03 Apr 07 - 08:01 PM

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is the guy who has the power to make policy in Iran, not Ahmadinejad. Please note that it is the 'Islamic Republic of Iran'. Please note that very well.