BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 May 08 - 11:07 PM

I'm not sure how long he's felt that way, lox. I'll ask him when next I see him. My guess would be that it's been about as long as she's been appearing in well-known movie roles.

He also told me what he would do with those panties if he were to acquire them, but I don't think you would want to know...

As for Angelina Jolie, I don't lust after her to an unhealthy extent...I've already got Winona Ryder for that...but I do think she's pretty impressive. She has very interesting facial geometry, and she's a good actress when given a good script to work with. Her performance in the movie "Girl, Interrupted" for instance was absolutely topnotch.

Interestingly enough, Winona was also in that movie and she also has great facial geometry, but it's quite different in type from Angelina. And they both have wonderful eyes.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 09 May 08 - 06:16 PM

Should I read back before mentioning Pete Postlethwaite?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 09 May 08 - 06:08 PM

Edward Norton is a fine actor! Forgot about him.

A bit of trivia, according to IMDB Daniel Day-Lewis turned down the Tom Hanks role in "Philadelphia" to do "In the Name of the Father".

Imagine how different that film would have been with a real actor!

Anyway, first film I remember seeing DDL in was "Incredible Lightness of Being". I thought he was great, but I thought the film had butchered the book.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 09 May 08 - 04:26 PM

"a friend of mine desperately wants a pair of Angelina Jolie's panties"

I see LH ... and how long have you ... erm ... I mean your friend ... um ... felt this way?

For the best of D D Lewis check out Gangs of New york. He takes all the glamour out of gangsterism beautifully and gives you the full taste of an embittered glassy eyed (literally as well as figuratively) monster.

Truly vile, bawdy, tasteless and probably bad smelling.

Superb!

Though an easily forgotten role of his is that of Helena Bonham Carters suitor in "A room with a view". Only easily forgottten because that is the type of character he is played so the fact that he was so unmemorable is testament to his brilliance.

I've also seen him in a film about a travelling dentist in sout America, in which he sings a gaelic version of "she moved through thhe fair" in the bath.

Great stuff!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 May 08 - 02:11 PM

Alec Baldwin, the other Jack Ryan.
Ben Affleck, the other other Jack Ryan.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Chief Chaos
Date: 09 May 08 - 01:30 PM

Han Solo/Jack Ryan for President! Err, I mean Harrison Ford for President!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 May 08 - 07:44 PM

I heard today that Alec Baldwin wants to run for office. At first I thought that was a dumb idea, but them I remember Arnold, Clint and Sonny Bono.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 08 - 06:00 PM

He was okay in "Saving Private Ryan".

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: van lingle
Date: 08 May 08 - 04:05 PM

You're right Chief Chaos he is bit of a throwback but I thought he did an excellent job as a school teacher/ ranger captain in "...Private Ryan." When he goes outside of type as in "Philadelphia" he's not so impressive, IMO.

Edward Norton aint't to shabby as American actors go.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:27 PM

And no more bad speeches!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:25 PM

And no possible scandal in the Whitehouse had he been elected President!

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:20 PM

Ha! Ha! Perfect.

You know, the author of "Henry" was smart. Think of all the time saved by not having to come up with dialogue...and no necessity to draw word bubbles either.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:18 PM

I once saw a strip wherein Henry was given a mouth. Everyone was waiting in agonized silence to hear what he might say. He drew in a deep breath and everyone leaned in closer, he began whistling, turned and walked away.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:09 PM

I still say he looks and acts the way Henry would if Henry ever grew up into an adult and gained the power of speech.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 08 May 08 - 11:45 AM

Oh, gump. That was minor brain impairment with a hamster. Philadelphia was HIV with a hamster.

But what the heck we all love Robert Mitchum, right? Some people get a pass.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 08 May 08 - 11:40 AM

That was AIDS! Not minor brain impairment. I guess he didn't pull it off very well.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: CarolC
Date: 08 May 08 - 11:34 AM

I like Tom Hanks in the same way I like Martha Stewart. They're calming like valium, but without any chemical side effects.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 08 May 08 - 10:37 AM

The only role Tom Hanks ever plays is...Tom Hanks.
In this way he's alot like John Wayne except for one great distinction. John Wayne fit the blood and guts American soldier, sailor, marine or cowboy role.

Tom Hanks movies all seem to be Tom Hanks in a space capsule, Tom Hanks on a deserted island, Tom Hanks with a minor brain impairment

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Wesley S
Date: 08 May 08 - 10:26 AM

How about Pachino, Jack Nickelson and William Hurt?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 08 May 08 - 09:38 AM

And then, there is the "League of their Own" (which I think Depp fits into), like Ben Kingsley, Alan Rickman, Daniel Day Lewis, Stephen Rea, Javier Bardem, and on the Americas side of the pond, James Earl Jones, and...Johnny Depp...why can't I think of any US actors that are as good as the Euro actors? Oh, Dustin Hoffman--he is excellent. I'm still coming up short w/top American actors, though. Hmmm, no wonder I never go see movies, and stay home and watch indies on Netflix.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 08 May 08 - 09:18 AM

And he is far more steady than Robert Downey. But when Downey is sober & on his game, he kicks ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 May 08 - 08:56 AM

Johnny Depp is an extraordinary actor.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 08 May 08 - 07:06 AM

Self-deprecating is Tom Hanks' schtick. And there is nothing worse than phony Hollywood attempts at self-deprecating humor. Very big cringe factor for me.

Some examples of actors who are very good at acting and genuine in their self-deprecating humor--Johnny Depp and Robert Downey, Jr leap to mind first.

I love Duvall's acting, but as someone pointed out, he is pretty scary when it comes to the politics side, which most Hollywood elite are--very conservative. Remember that Ronald Reagan guy?

The whole "Hollywood liberal" crap is more hype, less fact. And what else would one expect from the experts of hype and spin, who can only be relied upon to keep churning out mediocre Tom Hanks blockbusters that look exactly the same year after year?

Why, it's just the same with the Republicrat Horse Race Revue and Travelling Road Show--keep grinding out the same old shit every four years.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 May 08 - 01:34 AM

Robertson's most famous remarks.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:29 AM

Oh dear........

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: frogprince
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:26 AM

Robertson was also one of the "spiritual luminaries" who explained to us all that the flooding of New Orleans was God's punishment for stuff like Mardi Gras.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: frogprince
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:20 AM

The 700 club is dipstick-televangelist-lunatic-right-fringe Pat Robertson's regular broadcast. Robertson's gems of wisdom range anywhere to suggestions as to what world leaders should be assassinated to his admonition that Christians really shouldn't engage in oral sex, since that's something homosexual people do a lot.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:10 AM

I don't watch much TV -- is the 700 club right wing? One of his all time best performances, (and best movies I thought) was The Apostle......he was brilliant.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: frogprince
Date: 08 May 08 - 12:08 AM

I haven't followed D D-Lewis that much apart from the excellent job he did in "My Left Foot"; I know his reputation is way up there. Whoever is "best", Duvall has to be on the short list. When you look at what he's done, going back at least to the original repugnant Frank Burns in the movie version of MASH, through Lonesome Dove, Tender Mercies, and how many more...
But I've also seen him turn up as an honored guest on the 700 club; I'd rather see him influence acting, not politics.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 08 - 10:56 PM

I don't know who the most influential actor is (aside from William Shatner, I mean), but I do know who is a VERY good actor. Daniel Day-Lewis.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 07 May 08 - 10:47 PM

Robert Duvall..........remember Tender Mercies? THE best -- and I don't care who he endorses (or doesn't)....

I don't think Tom Hanks is an egomaniac -- he was wonderfully self deprecating on 'Wait Wait don't tell me...' a few months back......

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 08 - 10:35 PM

Shatner actually can act...it's just that he doesn't really bother to in some stuff...specially if the script is really lousy or not too demanding. ;-) That pretty much of applied to a lot of the Star Trek shows he did, to say nothing of the abysmal T.J. Hooker! But now and then Shatner does act quite well in a movie or TV series. It depends on the material, I guess, and what he wants to do with it (or not).

I still have no idea who Natasha Richardson is, and it's more fun not knowing than to just look her up on Google. ;-D

Along that line, a friend of mine desperately wants a pair of Angelina Jolie's panties. He would pay anything for them. I do know who she is.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: heric
Date: 07 May 08 - 09:35 PM

I thought William Shatner invented Hamster Method acting, didn't he?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 07 May 08 - 09:13 PM

Well, Tom Hanks is in great company today with the Obama celebrity endorsements. I just read Rush Limbaugh endorsed Obama today too.

Even Limbaugh is a better actor than Tom Hanks, IMO.

So, now that I think about it, I think I may hate Tom Hanks more than Republicrat Horse Race Revue and Travelling Road Show.

Which obviously poisons my view, as I am only able to see through one prism regarding Tom Hanks, too. Which is fine, considering what a one dimensional actor he is, I suppose.

No votes for Natasha Richardson's panties, then?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 08 - 08:09 PM

I am similarly unimpressed by Tom Hanks' acting, lox, and I think you have expressed his way of conveying emotion almost perfectly. ;-)

I honestly think William Shatner has considerably more acting range than Tom Hanks, and I am not joking when I say that! I've never been able to figure out what the fuss was about regarding Tom Hanks or why people think he's a great actor. I think it just depends on whether you like his style/appearance or not, and you could say that about a lot of actors. When I see him I am always reminded of 2 well-known oldtime comic strip characters:

1. Henry
2. Popeye...if you remove the pipe and sailor's cap and the eye squint and make him a lot more innocent.

But specially Henry! Tom Hanks IS Henry, after Henry grew up. He has the same odd, gormless expression on his face most of the time...like he wasn't quite sure what the heck was going on, but he's not quite ready to come right out and ask someone. Nope, he's going to remain silent and try to puzzle it out all by himself.... ;-)

However...I don't mind him endorsing Obama if he wants to. Fine with me.

Fantasma - I understand your feelings about corporate puppets perfectly. ;-) Yep, sure do.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 07 May 08 - 07:53 PM

You forgot "the green mile" and "the man with one red shoe" from his filmography.

I've always thought he was overrated. His way of conveying emotion of any sort, whether humour, anger, sadness or courage, seems consistently comparable to the look of shock one might exhibit upon discovering a live rodent in ones rectum.

He'll be remembered, but no one will quite remember why.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: the lemonade lady
Date: 07 May 08 - 07:35 PM

I think anything featuring/starring Tom Hanks is worth watching. The man is a genius.

'and that's all I got to say 'bout that'

Sal

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 07 May 08 - 07:21 PM

Because he can't act.

I don't hate Obama any more or less than I hate Clinton or McCain or Bush. But Obama is the only one with Mudcat minions who are trying sell us something.

I hate corporate puppets in general.

And Tom Hanks qualifies as one of those too, actually.

Or as the Robin Williams joke goes, he saw a homeless actor standing on a street corner in Hollywood, holding a sign that said "will work for Disney".

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: van lingle
Date: 07 May 08 - 04:44 PM

Who are Natasha Richardson's under garments endorsing? Whoever it is has my vote.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 08 - 11:01 AM

Fantasma's sheer hatred of Obama (or Obamamania?) has her so worked up that she tends to see things only through that one prism....thus Hanks must be doing something disgusting like "worshipping his own egomania"... ;-)

It could've been worse, Fantasma. Way worse. He could have spat upon and danced on a photo of Ralph Nader while endorsing Obama. That would have really done the trick, eh?

Look, anyone can put a video on Youtube and say they endorse Obama. Anyone at all. And many have. Most of them aren't famous. Why get pissy about it when an actor does it? Does being someone famous mean that you must never publicly endorse anyone, because it would simply be evidence of how you worship your own ego?

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: frogprince
Date: 07 May 08 - 10:44 AM

"Apparently, Tom Hanks worship of his own egomania knows no bounds--he actually videotaped himself giving Obama his Hollywood endorsement."

Good grief, Fantasma: I don't even know if Hanks is an egomaniac or not, but that tape isn't the proof that he is; his whole wording and tone indicates his own awareness that a celebrity endorsement is something of a joke; that he just felt like making the statement for whatever it is or isn't worth.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 08 - 10:40 AM

Who the hell is Natasha Richardson? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 07 May 08 - 08:48 AM

But isn't there SOME way we can tie this thread to Natasha Richardson's panties, which I just learned about googling this inane and stupid Tom Hanks story?

Apparently, Tom Hanks worship of his own egomania knows no bounds--he actually videotaped himself giving Obama his Hollywood endorsement.

What, nobody asked how he would be voting on the red carpet, so he had to stoop to this for publicity?

Who in Hollywood isn't for Obama? The Hollywood elite, more than anyone on the planet, know how to hitch their star to the cult of personality wagon.

I mean, there is money to be made being on "the right side" after all...and by Obamamania standards--the sky is the limit for pandering to corporate interests who throw their bad money after bad politicians with greater frequency than they throw their bad money after bad movies.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 07 May 08 - 08:39 AM

Corruption has been with us forever, in the US and everywhere.

But a democratic society can sustain the blows, so long as it maintains   integrity.

We the people of the US have proven more than once that it is possible to beat back the corrupt influences of money, to maintain the integrity of our political system.

No, this isn't a historic myth of democracy at work, Little Hawk. But I can agree it is most certainly a contemporary one.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 May 08 - 08:34 AM

Perhaps it was never found in the first place? Possibly it is a myth? Consider that.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Fantasma
Date: 07 May 08 - 07:51 AM

And if anyone needs an explanation of how the US democracy was lost, well...this thread offers plenty of evidence.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 May 08 - 12:12 AM

I'd listen to John on Politics, Paul on how to write pop songs and not on how to marry.

Bono and Springsteen are thoughtful men.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos
Date: 06 May 08 - 10:35 PM

I'd more likely be influenced by John Lennon (were he still with us, God rest his soul) or Paul McCartney who probably wouldn't want to get involved.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 May 08 - 07:01 PM

I don't think William Shatner has offered his official endorsement to any of the candidates yet...but when he does, my mind is made up!

Cate Blanchett is simply too good for president of the USA. I would not wish such punishment upon her.

Subject: RE: BS: Is Tom Hanks the Most influential Actor?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 May 08 - 06:01 PM

Homer Simpson might make a difference.