The Weekly Walkabout

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Amos
Date: 25 Jul 08 - 03:00 PM

I do not care for rhythm much,
Or scansion, depth, or human touch,
And beauty is not much my suite,
I'd rather write about my feet.

My feet go forth, across the hills,
Through valleys, mountains, streams and rills,
And up and down each village street;
My being hinges on these feet.

I wrap them up in socks of cotton
And change them when the smell turns rotten;
Oh, keep true love, and spring's sweet breeze
And let me have feet such as these!

These feet are firm, and stout, and strong,
One third as wide as they are long,
And unlike dreams of love and palaces,
My feet are real, and lined with callouses.

Oh, keep the love that makes hearts quail,
Give my yellowed, ragged nails!
And no perfume want I as sweet
As that which rises from these feet!

And while yon poets Truth are stalking,
My shoes and feet will stick with walking,
On ordinary path and street,
No heart need I, for I have feet!

Archflat Peduncle,
Songs for Tired Feet5
Little Leathery Booklets, Fowkus-on-Toeses, 1987

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 25 Jul 08 - 02:39 PM

A tad early this week as I'm out tomorrow at the Durham Folk Party -
THE WEEKLY WALKABOUT, E.G...

Poem 48 of 230: THE PROMS

We walked through Kensington Gardens,
    Then made a left for Albert Hall.
Promenaders were in their tens,
    While others had found their stall,
As we took our pre-booked seats.
    The seats were of restricted view -
Three-quarters of the orchestra.
    But the music sure bettered par:
The beautiful sounds of Mozart;
    The daring drama of Ravel.
And we liked it - me and a belle.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 19 Jul 08 - 06:57 AM

THE WEEKLY WALKABOUT, E.G.
The Open is on at Birkdale, hence...

Poem 221 of 230: MAJORS

If golf taps the world for its players
    (And few would deny that so),
Why, then, are three of four majors
    A United States Tour show?

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 13 Jul 08 - 07:16 AM

Out yesterday, home today - just enjoyed your poem, thanks, LH.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Little Hawk
Date: 12 Jul 08 - 07:39 PM

Walking about in a weekly fashion
I nibble on my spartan rations
A bit of watercress on rye
Suffices well for such as I

And in the distance there I see
An owl has perched upon a tree
To take his rest beneath the sun
Now that his nightly work is done

Perchance I'll amble down to Kent
And find a pleasant spot to rent
At which I can on foolscap fashion
New routes for my weekly walking passion

Tis well I have these pleasant hours
To wander here amongst the bowers
With not a care, I have no worry
And that is why I never hurry

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 12 Jul 08 - 05:34 PM

Enjoyed my day at Rothbury, by the way - it was a tad damp, but most of the events (comp's and sessions) were indoors, anyway; and, more importantly, on the bus home, I over-heard some first-timers say how much they'd enjoyed their day.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Jul 08 - 11:01 AM

THE WEEKLY WALKABOUT, E.G.
(Tad early this week, as I'll be at the Rothbury Traditional Music Festival tomorrow.)

Poem 16 of 230: A BEAUTIFUL STAGE

If a couple, with plans to wed,
    Asked me, off the top of my head,
For somewhere I thought well in tune
    As a place for a honeymoon,
It would have - flashing back - to be
    Beautifully-honed Italy.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Jul 08 - 10:30 AM

Medium

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 05:58 PM

...Poem cum (very brief) song 130 of 230: ENTRÉE/AT BOLTON'S ALBERT HALL: OPERA SONG - WINTER 2000/1

From novel, and play,
To opera,
La Traviata
Was my entrée...

To a media
I find is a
Fine way to relay
Human drama.

From walkaboutsverse.741.com

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 10:21 AM

I'm pretty sure that you can post your poems in the context of conversation now. As long as you don't start many threads you were violating no rules. the "one a week rule" looked like another "penile" prank to me. Hopefully the prankster has found someone else to tease.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Jul 08 - 05:25 AM

For what it's worth, FT, I've enjoyed some opera singing (if not as much as some, in-key/on-song, folk singing), to the point of being moved to song by it! There's a note, above, from a mod. saying I'm only allowed to post one piece/per week here, so here's a link to #130 - "Entree".

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 08:03 PM

"We can all sound more earthy or sweet if we wish to"

But it's kinda funny how those Operatic Singers with their decades of voice training tend to all sound clear, distinct, and of a similar level of clarity with a total lack of buzziness, off-keyness, etc...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 07:57 PM

WAV - Wiki says

"Timbre has been called "a wastebasket category""

which is also where many of your 'eclectic' "Folk Music" concepts unfortunately belong.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Lord Batman's Kitchener
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 06:24 PM

First off Wikipedia is not a reliable source, the accuracy of many of the entries has been called into question, on more than one occasion.

Second off, accusing Don and I of 'lording' it over YOU would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetically hypocritcal on your part, what with your I have this degree and that certificate, I have this website and that myspace space, and your self important attitude, you need to do some self examination before you accuse others!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: s&r
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 06:17 PM

I once worked with a guy with almotst non-existent colour vision. He refused to accept that his vision was in any way lacking becauase he saw what he'd always seen.
Perhaps there is such a thing as inborn tone deafness, where you normally hear a different sound to the rest of us.

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 05:22 PM

Here's "timbre" in more detail (but NOT at odds with my above understanding) from Wiki..
And are you, Don and Lord, not just trying to lord it over someone, in this case..?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Lord Batman's Kitchener
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 04:40 PM

Instead merely quoting them, as if you know what you're talking about (which you don't)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 04:34 PM

You don't have to take singing lessons, WAV (but it would certainly help!). Just get a good book on singing, vocal techique and such, and learn the meanings of some of the terms you insist on using.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 11:09 AM

I guess he likes to....................

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 10:53 AM

You can also sound like a wheezing and spluttering octogenarian from the parish workhouse if you like to.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 09:56 AM

We can all sound more earthy or sweet if we wish to, Foolestroupe, and that's what I understand to be changes in timbre - which I do when I go from folk songs to hymns (here's the link, again).

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 09:28 AM

"think there's quite a difference in timbre between my folk and hymn singing"

Sadly, you miss the whole point again - the 'timbre' of the voice is irrelevant and important ... unless it just reveals an untrained voice badly used.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 09 Jul 08 - 05:45 AM

Re: my post Date: 06 Jul 08 - 03:20 PM, I'm surprised, frankly, Stu - quality aside, I think there's quite a difference in timbre between my folk and hymn singing. But, as for quality, I'll keep your remarks on intonation in mind.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: GUEST,s&r without cookie
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 02:27 PM

WAV I listened to the two examples you gave. It didn't clarify the rather convoluted sentence, but in all honesty I probably knew what you were attempting to convey.

As to the examples - I couldn't tell any difference in style or timbre.What I did notice is that you are ducking the high notes; everything towards the top end of your register is flat, by as much as a quarter tone.

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 08:36 AM

"
"But as I said, it is not their voice or instrument sound, what WHAT they are performing (the CONTENT, not the 'style') that is what the scholars which to preserve. Since WAV says he definitely TRIES to make his voice sound terribly lousy (just imitiate the recorded noise), he should be congratulated, perhaps, for having achieved his aim... but scholars will never remember him for the reasons that he intends..." (Foolestroupe)...if you're confused, please don't try and confuse others about my attempts/intentions."

I'm not confused at all, and from what they have said publicly, neither are some others, mate.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 06:40 AM

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: irishenglish - PM
Date: 02 Jul 08 - 10:47 AM

"Voices is great WAV, but it is more of a revival collection-Maddy Prior, Martin Carthy, John K, etc. It is not the same as listening to Harry Cox, Walter Pardon, Fred Jordan, etc. Just as I said in the Glastonbury thread. And unless someone beat me to it, 100 up!"
...Harry Cox, Fred Jordon and other source-singers were on an anthology special "Travelling Folk" programme, BBC, last Saturday, which some of you may be able to get on the BBC iPlayer.
(And thanks for more wooden recorder info., CC.)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 04:09 AM

"But as I said, it is not their voice or instrument sound, what WHAT they are performing (the CONTENT, not the 'style') that is what the scholars which to preserve. Since WAV says he definitely TRIES to make his voice sound terribly lousy (just imitiate the recorded noise), he should be congratulated, perhaps, for having achieved his aim... but scholars will never remember him for the reasons that he intends..." (Foolestroupe)...if you're confused, please don't try and confuse others about my attempts/intentions.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 02:50 AM

If I was going to make a recommendation for any make of wooden recorder, I think this is the one I would recommend: Moeck.   They're a step up from Kung recorders, but more affordable than makes like von Huene. At least that's how it was when I was playing the recorder seriously.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:56 AM

LOL

What tripped my memory was a thread title above the line about Kung Fu.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:55 AM

I have to revise what I said about what kind of recorders I used to have when I was younger. I didn't have wood recorders made by Aulos (they probably don't even make wood recorders). My baroque recorders were made by Kung.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Jul 08 - 01:42 AM

Yes, well, you still haven't heard Chongo attempt to play the saxophone...

Now THERE is coarse music!

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:37 PM

"you think the recordings of so-called source singers are somehow lousy"

I think that the 'recordings' are fine for the technology of the day.

Some of the singers, recorded well past their best, really DO sound lousy. They may have sounded great in their younger days, same as some of the old instruments players, suffering the outragesous stings of old age, lack of practice, arthritus, etc too...

"Coarse Music" has nothing to do with a coarse sound, once again WAV reveals that he just doesn't get it - I am beginning to agree with mandotim... BTW, if you haven't READ Michael Green, you have no idea what 'Coarse Performance' means either...

But as I said, it is not their voice or instrument sound, what WHAT they are performing (the CONTENT, not the 'style') that is what the scholars which to preserve. Since WAV says he definitely TRIES to make his voice sound terribly lousy (just imitiate the recorded noise), he should be congratulated, perhaps, for having achieved his aim... but scholars will never remember him for the reasons that he intends...

Does anyone remember the name of the litle old lady who used to hire some place like Albert Hall each year and give a personal concert of warbly tunes all lousily sung?

Now THAT's a REAL Coarse Musician! Just like The Portsmouth Sinfonia!

:-)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 04:47 PM

You would NOT mean that I love lousy performances, I hope!

My problem, Foolstroupe, is that you think the recordings of so-called source singers are somehow lousy.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 03:20 PM

To Stu: if you could listen to "When I Survey the Wonderous Cross" and "The Water is Wide" on myspace , and focus on the timbre of my voice (rather than the keyboard accompaniment), I hope you'll get what I mean.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Gene Burton
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 02:58 PM

I rather like the phrase "trying tell"; it has a pleasing onomatopea (sic- I think) to it. Though I'm buggered if I know what it means...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 12:41 PM

Here is a long build-up to a question.
Let's invent a Frenchman. Call him Francois Davout. He was born in a Parisian suburb but at a very early age his family moved to Quebec. He recieved a degree in ethnography from an university there, travels a bit and at last decides to repatraite himself to France. He becomes a fanatical devotee of all things French and true. He even throws out all his Tintins and Lucky Lukes and won't sing along to Aznavour or Macias. He is smitten with traditional French song, before the corrupting influences of Stivell and Malicorne. He writes verses, calls himself les Chants au'Pied (pardon my appalling and nonexistant French) and opens up a myspace page, posting homemade recordings of himself singing French trad leaned from old records, top-line melody only. He loves Au Clair de Lune. My question is, should he sound like this?

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: s&r
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 12:24 PM

WAV - I can't quite understand your post of 9.32 above. The second sentence is OK but the first one is lacking subject or object or something.

Stu

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 12:17 PM

I think the discussion-demon(s), Volgadon, may also have closed some of the threads, that left more than just yours truly head-scratching.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 12:04 PM

It's apes and sevres vases time again!

How is that a folk song, WAV?

I could believe that WAV's posts were being changed. He has made a lot of enemies, but what I find hard to swallow is why change surfeit to surteit, surely there are more effective ways of wreaking havoc.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 10:27 AM

That is how you achieve an other-worldly sound...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 09:51 AM

WAV,

You have not only missed the bus, but also the planet with your lack of understanding of "Coarse Music".

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 09:32 AM

As folkies, we keep trying tell, via the repetition of a melody, in an earthier timbre than what a classical or pop singer might cultivate - and whether you call it coarser or not FT, I for one definetly prefer that folkie way. When singing hymns, however, I too at least try to sing with a sweeter/"Sunday-best" voice.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 08:31 AM

Just to help you get started...

Michael Green (humorist)

Also attributed to Michael Green is the theatre style of Coarse Acting. A coarse actor is "one who can remember his lines, but not the order in which they come. One who performs . . . amid lethal props. The Coarse Actor's aim is to upstage the rest of the cast. His hope is to be dead by Act Two so that he can spend the rest of his time in the bar. His problems? Everyone else connected with the production." (Michael Green)

Thus you can work out what a "Coarse Muso" would be.... :-)

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 08:27 AM

Insane Beard

You would NOT mean that I love lousy performances, I hope!

Although I must confess to having several LPs by "The Portsmouth Sinfonia" ... wonder if they did any more that didn't make to Aus... or any CDs.... :-) Some of the funniest stuff I ever listened to - truly in the style of "Coarse Music"... AND they were SO SINCERE.... :-)


For those who don't get the reference 'Coarse Music' - Google "The Art of Coarse Acting by Michael Green" to give you an understanding of the concept of 'Coarse Performance' of anything - I fear that I may enjoy BEING a Coarse Muso far too much for my own good.... :-)

Perhaps our friend WAV is trying to champion a Lost Art - or perhaps one that SHOULD be lost...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 06 Jul 08 - 08:03 AM

Now the 'source singers and players' of trad folk music may well be rather 'inept' musically due to lack of performance training skills, but remember that it is their CONTENT that we 'worship', not the lousy performance!

Priceless stuff, Foolstroupe - though I fear you're not alone in such thinking...

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Joe Offer
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 08:05 PM

I can't figure out the reason for the gardening thread closure, either.
I reopened it.
-Joe-

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 06:50 PM

Vegetables aren't what's being discussed here.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 06:36 PM

YEah--you'd have to wear a kilt or something to garden in -- they don't have a fly....



A

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 06:35 PM

We have tomatoes in our garden. They originated in what is now Peru. Is that native enough for North Carolina? I would hate to have a garden consisting of only tobacco and venus flytraps.

Subject: RE: The Weekly Walkabout
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 06:25 PM

Here's a link to a very successful co-creative garden in the UK...

http://www.findhorn.org/whatwedo/vision/cocreation.php