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Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens

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PATRICK SPENCER
SIR PATRICK SPENS
SIR PATRICK SPENS 3


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Phil Edwards 20 Jul 08 - 07:24 PM
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GUEST,leeneia 20 Jul 08 - 11:46 PM
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kendall 21 Jul 08 - 06:38 AM
Phil Edwards 21 Jul 08 - 06:53 AM
Dave Sutherland 21 Jul 08 - 12:28 PM
Phil Edwards 21 Jul 08 - 05:47 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: BALLAD OF SIR PATRICK SPENS (Phil Edwards
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 20 Jul 08 - 07:24 PM

One of mine which recently had its public debut. Takes longer to type (and quite possibly to read) than it does to sing.

(THIS IS) THE BALLAD OF SIR PATRICK SPENS

O the King sat in Dunfermline town,
And in Dunfermline town sat he.
In the King's great hall, on the King's high throne
(Very much where you'd expect a king to be)
And that's enough information for now.
Sell the horse and saddle the cow!
Fol-de-rol-de-riddle and too-ra-loo

This is the ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
And tonight I'm going to sing it all the way through.

O the King was drinking the blood-red wine,
For the colour of the wine that the King preferred was red.
And the King put down his blood-red wine
And the King turned to his lords and this he said -
I'll tell you what he said in a minute or two.
Turn your money when the moon is new!
Fol-de-rol-de-riddle and too-ra-lee

This is the ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
And we should get finished around a quarter to three.

O the King turned to his lords and he said,
"Find me a mariner who can sail the sea.
Not a mariner who hunts, or makes little wooden toys -
Those kinds of mariner are no good to me,
For it's sailing a ship that I've got in mind."
Knock them dead and you can rob them blind!
Fol-de-rol-de-riddle and too-ra-loo

This is the ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
And if you liked that bit you're going to love Verse 22.

"O Sir Patrick Spens is the man that you want,"
Said a little lord sitting at the King's right knee,
By the King's high throne, in the King's great hall,
In Dunfermline, as we've established previously.
I hope you're keeping up with the story so far.
Never trust a man with a big cigar!
Fol-de-rol-de-riddle and row-tow-tow

This is the ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
And it should start hotting up any time now.

So the King has written a letter so broad
(For he preferred that to a letter that was long)
And he's sent it to Sir Patrick Spens
Who, as you may remember, is the hero of this song
And he'll be coming in after the next refrain.
One man's loss is another man's gain!
Fol-de-rol and rickety-tickety-tin

This is the ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
And if it goes well I might just do Tam Lin.

O Sir Patrick Spens was walking on the strand
When a messenger came with a letter from the King.
"O why has the King sent this letter to me?
For I'm very much a novice at the whole ship-sailing thing.
Still, the orders of the King must be obeyed."
Never count the profits till the bills are paid!
Fol-de-rol-de-riddle and hi-de-ho

This is the ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
And I think we all know how this one's going to go.

O Sir Patrick Spens and all his men drowned
While they were doing as the King proposed.
I know there's more to say - I've left a lot of bits out -
But I wanted to get off this stage before the bar closed.
So that's all I'm going to say about Sir Patrick Spens.
Never say 'whither' when you mean to say whence'!
Fol-de-rol-de-riddle and roll them bones

That was the ballad of Sir Patrick Spens -

And if you want to hear it done properly, try Nic Jones.

(Phil Edwards)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jul 08 - 07:34 PM

LOL!!!


I can imagine that getting the laughs in a local of folks who knew what they were hearing.


A


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: Celtaddict
Date: 20 Jul 08 - 07:58 PM

And what is the tune?
I surely can't fit it to 'Sir Patrick Spens'.
Is it a familiar (other) one or original? And if original, is it somewhere we can hear it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 20 Jul 08 - 11:46 PM

Very good, Phil.

Now where have I heard the words 'rickety-tickety-tin' before?

heh heh


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: semi-submersible
Date: 21 Jul 08 - 06:26 AM

Oh, boy, that is fun. Wish I were there to hear it.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: kendall
Date: 21 Jul 08 - 06:38 AM

Excellent job!

Very few people sing the original, personally, I much prefer Bob Coltman's song, Patrick Spencer.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 21 Jul 08 - 06:53 AM

Nic Jones's version is terrific, it has to be said - he whacks through it. Does anyone know a good recording of the long form of the ballad? I mean, where they get to Norroway and make a nuisance of themselves, then get kicked out at short notice, which is why they have to put to sea in bad weather. It makes a lot more sense than the short version (although it does go on a bit).

I'll abc my tune when I get a moment. I solfeged it to myself this morning & discovered it's on a total of four notes -

O the King sat in... Dunfermline town...
do do mi   fa so    so so mi   do


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 21 Jul 08 - 12:28 PM

Try the Martin Carthy recording on "Signs of Life" - same tune as Nic Jones.


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Subject: Tune Add: BALLAD OF SIR PATRICK SPENS (P Edwards)
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 21 Jul 08 - 05:47 PM

The tune proved harder to transcribe than I'd thought - it is all on four notes, but it's got a 3-quaver anacrusis, which threw me. (OK, I didn't know what an anacrusis was this time last year.)

Here it is, anyway. Share and enjoy.

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T: (This is) the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
S: Phil Edwards
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
Q: 1/8=200
K: G
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d3 z2d/2d/2d B| G4 z3B|cBcBc3B|G4z3B|
cBc c/2c/2 cc/2B/2G2| cBc B/2B/2 c/2c/2d d2|
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cBcB cB c/2c/2 B|G4-G4|z4||


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 04:46 PM

Loverly!   

But I wish you hadn't got tired and quit just when the goin' was good.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 04:46 PM

Ewan MacColl recorded a fine version of this ballad on The Long Harvest. This is the 'definitive' version as far as I am concerned.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 22 Jul 08 - 07:08 PM

Shimrod - that could be a problem!

Dave - it's a fine line between giving the impression that you're taking all night to get to the end of a song, and actually taking all night to get to the end of a song. I think when I get to the last verse the audience should be genuinely relieved that I'm not going to do the whole song that way.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 23 Jul 08 - 08:55 AM

I understand what you say. I guess I was thinking more of reading a clever parody of an original piece I know well than of actual performance.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: semi-submersible
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 06:01 AM

I kept laughing all day. Thanks for the music, too! I've practicing to do.

For some reason there are only two DT links at the top of this page, and PATSPEN3 (the version of Sir Patrick Spens referenced in this song) is not grouped with the other Child #58 songs and threads.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: GUEST,Archie Caulfield.
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 10:33 AM

Very smart, clever-clever, just the kind of thing that college types would appreciate, and fifth-formers, appropriately over the heads of the kind of peasant who would have revered the original. A fine example of being patronising. Not to my taste at all.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: dulcimerjohn
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 11:05 AM

love Swarbs version the best..


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spe
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 24 Jul 08 - 03:25 PM

Archie - I see it more as an affectionate send-up of a ballad that's well-known for taking a long time to get not very far. It's aimed squarely at an audience that knows the original, which would rule out most present-day fifth-formers.

I wouldn't like it to be taken to indicate disrespect for traditional music; I'll admit that, when I did it the other night, I would have been happier if I'd had a chance to do two songs, so I could have done a traditional song to go with it. But at the end of the day it's just one song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 25 Jul 08 - 05:51 AM

June Tabor does a pretty fair version on "Echoes of Hoofbeats", IMO.

This has the Queen of Norroway [sic] kicking off about the Scots eating and drinking the Norwegian court out of house and home.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 25 Jul 08 - 05:56 AM

Sorry - that should have been "An Echo of Hooves".

Archie - whatever else you do, keep far away from the thread

"The Nice but Dim Knight". If Pip Radish's work of genius, above, ("The Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens"),

offends you, that thread'll keep you pissed off for a good month

and a 'alf.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: Paul Burke
Date: 25 Jul 08 - 06:03 AM

Mustn't stick our heads over the parapet, Archie, must we? All our literature and art are for the masses of the people, and in the first place for the workers, peasants and soldiers; they are created for the workers, peasants and soldiers and are for their use. La revolution n'a pas besoin de savants.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 05:00 AM

Now recorded!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: This is the Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens
From: Susan of DT
Date: 25 Jan 12 - 06:52 AM

PATSPEN3 added to group - it may have been added to the DT after the group was put was put together

I have the following recordings of Sir Patrick Spens:
Martin Carthy    Child                            Free Reed
Bob Coltman       Son of Child (his version)       Minstrel
Michael Cooney    Still Cooney...                  Front Hall (vinyl)
Jock Duncan       Tae the Greenwood Gaen          Sleepytown
Jock Duncan       Bound to be a Row                Autumn Harvest
John Langstaff    Sings Amer. & British Folksongs Tradition (vinyl)
Rick & Lorraine Lee Living in the Trees          Folk Legacy
Ewan MacColl      Long Harvest Vol 7               CAMSCO
Ewan MacColl      Blood & Roses 4                  Blackthorn/CAMSCO
Ewan MacColl      Child Ballads 1                  
Hermes Nye       Early English Ballads            Folkways
Jean Redpath      Father Adam                      Philo
Wendy Weatherby   A Shirt of Silk or Snow          Fellside


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