BS: McCain the copyright pirate

Subject: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 11:57 AM

First its Jackson Browne now its Solzhenitsyn.

McCain's story of the cross on the ground appears to have been lifted from the Gulag Archipelago.

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Next he will be talking about how he planted all the apple trees west of the Mississippi.

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: Bert
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 12:04 PM

...Next he will be talking about how he planted all the apple trees west of the Mississippi...

He's about the right age for it!!!

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 12:11 PM

I wish someone would make ads with all of his "mistakes" and play them over an over with appropriate refutations. John Q. Public needs to pay attention!

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 12:36 PM

The "straight talker" has run outta intellegent things to say so he is stuck havin' to borrow...

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 12:44 PM

`McCain't put he dividing line between the rich and middle class/poor at $5,000,000.00 per year.

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: GUEST,lox
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 01:07 PM

Or he'll tell Obama off for exploiting the race issue - illustrating his point by referring to his own well known early years as a cotton picker in the deep south ...

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: kendall
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 07:16 PM

Today it was revealed that McCain was not in any "Dome of silence" while Obama was answering questions from that minister, but was in fact in his car where he had access to the program as it was being broadcast on the radio! No wonder he sounded so prepared.

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: Riginslinger
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 07:46 PM

Of course McCain would never paraphrase Solzhenitsyn. Solzhenitsyn was a Russian, and McCain dislikes Russians.

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 07:47 PM

Andrea Mitchel first announced that Sunday Morning and Rick Davis, McCain's lead pit bull accused NBC of bias. As of yet he has not apologized.

Likewise, "journalist" William Kristol said the charges (of McCain skipping the silence cone) were unfounded in the New York Times, then once it was proved that the charges were quite well founded, The NYT CHANGED THE STATEMENT for Kristol on the online version with no recognition that a mistake had been made.

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 07:50 PM

Rig, Its obvious that you did not read the link I posted. especially the part about McCain being a fan of Solzhenitsyn.

>>First, know that McCain is a very big fan of Solzhenitsyn's and is fond of referencing him.

In McCain's 2007 book Hard Call: Great Decisions and the Extraordinary People Who Made Them McCain devotes an entire chapter to Solzhenitsyn and his experiences as recounted in The Gulag Archipelago.

In June 2005, after Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) found himself apologizing for likened FBI reports of military tactics used at Guantanamo Base to techniques used in Nazi Germany, the Soviet gulag and Pol Pot's Cambodian "killing fields," it was none other McCain who blasted Durbin publicly, offering this bit of advice during an appearance on Meet the Press:

    "Senator Durbin owes not only the Senate an apology -- I don't know if censure would be in order -- but an apology because it does a great disservice to men and women who suffered in the gulag and in Pol Pot's killing fields. Dick Durbin should be required to read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's 'Gulag Archipelago' and I think that he may have a better understanding that there's no comparison whatsoever. And it does a great disservice to the majority of men and women who are serving in Guantanamo who are doing the job that they're told to do and they're doing it in a humane fashion. To tar the American servicemen and women with a brush that applies to the gulag or the killing fields is a great disservice to the men and women in the military who are serving honorably down there."

Also, after Solzhenitsyn passed away a few weeks ago, The New York Sun published an excerpt from McCain's own book (Hard Call) regarding Solzhenitsyn as an op-ed tribute.<<

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: Riginslinger
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 09:46 PM

I suppose the only way to explain it is to recognize that McCain is addicted to the same superstition that afflicted Solzhenitsyn. But when I read Solzhenitsyn I didn't get any kind of feel like that.
                  Frankly, I came away with the impression that if Leon Trotsky had succeeded Lenin, Solzhenitsyn would have been a happy camper--depending on how things went after that, of course.

                  I guess something must be fishy in Siberia.

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 10:52 PM

On the other hand, no matter what happens, in six months we'll have a President who doesn't think that Solzhenitsyn played goal for Moscow Dynamo.

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: Genie
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 11:27 PM

Per Carl Wolfson and Thom Hartmann, not only was the "personal story" that McCain told to Rick Warren during the recent "forum" identical to the story in Solzhenitsyn's "Gulag Archipelago," but 1) when McCain returned from Viet Nam and at length related the stories of the key events of his war and POW experiences, he did not mention that particular incident, and 2) in the 1990s, when McCain did start telling that story as something from his own history, he told it as having happened to a fellow POW whom he knew, not to McCain himself.

Fabrication? "Hypermnesiac"* embellishment of something that actually happened to McCain while he was a POW?   The inevitable effects of the aging process on memory? A combination of "all of the above?"   Questions worth pondering in any case.

Genie

*"Hypermnesia" - the tendency of the human memory to 'fill in the blanks" (gaps) in memory, including merging of separate event memories, adding details, etc. I.e., over time, we tend to "remember" more about an event than we actually experienced, noticed, or stored in memory at the time it happened.

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: Barry Finn
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 11:44 PM

When McCain's in the Oval office who's gonna be filling in the blanks then? Who's gonna keep an eye on his memory? Who's gonna pay all those fees to the copyright holders when he keeps stealing the creative property of others? Who's goona vote in a blunder like this? What were they thinking?

Barry

Subject: RE: BS: McCain the copyright pirate
From: Genie
Date: 20 Aug 08 - 12:48 AM

Oops! Dunno perzactly what I did, but I managed to make my whole post look like a blue clicky.

Mebbe one o' them thar Joe Clones can fix it so's only the URL (for KPOJ.com) shows up as links? Purty please.

Genie