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BS: they walk among us

olddude 12 Feb 09 - 02:10 PM
GUEST,jts 12 Feb 09 - 01:53 PM
Jim Dixon 12 Feb 09 - 01:23 PM
Jess A 12 Feb 09 - 06:25 AM
GUEST,goatfell 12 Feb 09 - 06:08 AM
Nigel Parsons 12 Feb 09 - 05:35 AM
GUEST,Slag 11 Feb 09 - 10:18 PM
Bat Goddess 11 Feb 09 - 03:43 PM
ClaireBear 11 Feb 09 - 03:08 PM
Ebbie 11 Feb 09 - 01:07 PM
Little Hawk 11 Feb 09 - 01:05 PM
VirginiaTam 11 Feb 09 - 12:33 PM
3refs 11 Feb 09 - 12:17 PM
Bat Goddess 11 Feb 09 - 12:17 PM
DMcG 11 Feb 09 - 12:11 PM
Nigel Parsons 11 Feb 09 - 12:00 PM
Bill D 11 Feb 09 - 11:56 AM
Uncle_DaveO 11 Feb 09 - 11:56 AM
Alice 11 Feb 09 - 11:22 AM
Ebbie 11 Feb 09 - 11:06 AM
jeffp 11 Feb 09 - 10:52 AM
DMcG 11 Feb 09 - 10:28 AM
Dead Horse 11 Feb 09 - 10:19 AM
GUEST,Jonny Sunshine 11 Feb 09 - 10:14 AM
GUEST,Cliff 11 Feb 09 - 07:55 AM
Dave Hanson 11 Feb 09 - 03:33 AM
Rapparee 10 Feb 09 - 09:03 PM
Bill D 10 Feb 09 - 07:37 PM
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Little Hawk 10 Feb 09 - 06:41 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: olddude
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 02:10 PM

When I turned 40, I was in the grocery store and a friend of mine said hey its your birthday today how old are you, I said today I am 40. The little girl at the check out said after I was about to leave. hey I forgot to give you your senior citizens discount ...

well another person maybe offended ... me i said

"why yes you did"

and took the 10% refund as payment for the insult


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: GUEST,jts
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 01:53 PM

My friends and I were on a Lager run and noticed that the cases were
discounted 10%. Since it was a big party, we bought 2 cases. The cashier
multiplied 2 times 10% and gave us a 20% discount.... *


the boys on the beer run were the stupid ones. they should have got 10 cases.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 01:23 PM

I have used that phrase "Let me know if you don't get this e-mail" but I meant it as a JOKE. I hope everyone knew that.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Jess A
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 06:25 AM

My favourite - and a seasonal one at that -

My morris team practice every week on a Tuesday night. Every year on Pancake Day we finish practice early and go to somebody's house and eat pancakes. One year a member of the team who-shall-remain-nameless innocently commented 'Isn't it weird how pancake day always coincides with practice night?' Needless to say much hilarity ensued and she's never been allowed to forget it.

(not sure if this needs translating for places outside the British Isles - Pancake Day happens on the same day every year - Shrove Tuesday...)


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: GUEST,goatfell
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 06:08 AM

i think one was george w bush


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 05:35 AM

Re leaving the chuck key in the driver (the drill is the actual cutting tool). Anyone who uses an electric drill more than casually, eventually does that...more than once!

Not me, I don't lose chuck keys either.
Top tip:
Attach chuck key firmly to cable with cable tie (far enough down the cable so that it can still be used).

Doesn't work for rechargeables!


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: GUEST,Slag
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 10:18 PM

The first time I launched an F-4 as a crew chief I did the walk through with the pilot, strapped him in, removed the ladder. We went through the check of all the flight surfaces and then I took my position in front of the aircraft to signal him to taxi to the end-of-runway for munitions and final check. The plane rolled about five feet and lurched to a stop! The pilot was pointing to the back of his ejection seat. I grabbed the ladder and up went the canopy. I had missed the bright red flag on the pin that keeps the ejection seat from accidentally being fired during ground time. This wasn't just a goof-up but a major incident as it would have meant the pilot's life if he had to eject. I counted it up to nerves as it was my first time. You can bet I never made that mistake again.

Re leaving the chuck key in the driver (the drill is the actual cutting tool). Anyone who uses an electric drill more than casually, eventually does that...more than once!


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 03:43 PM

Hey, Claire!

My favorite graphic arts-related stultifying inanity happened back in the early '80s, when I was working for a type shop. We had to typeset and paste-up (this was back in the days of proprietary computerized typesetting equipment, not "desktop" publishing) a number of size variations of an ad customized for all the publications the ads ran in. After the ads were approved, they each had to be photostated (remember stat cameras?) to multiple other sizes for the rest of the publications. And each individual ad had a code number on it as well.

This was all done on a very tight schedule and enough time was needed in between changes and approvals to make the photostats and then FedEx the camera-ready ads to the publications. They HAD to go out by a certain time to be in the hands of the publications at their deadlines.

Once the client was taking its time with the approvals and suggested we make the stats FIRST, then do the corrections...missing the "obvious" point completely that the corrected type would then have to be statted to the correct percentage size and pasted in and possibly re-statted so the ad would be one piece (which was the point of "camera-ready"). Sigh.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: ClaireBear
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 03:08 PM

I think this would fit right in on Clientcopia (and thanks for that link, Linn -- it will keep me amused all day!):

Once when we did a cover layout for one client's brochure, we used a shot from our client's approved photography that showed a crowd of business-clad people with briefcases, seen from the back as they walked across an architecturally interesting footbridge and into a large building.

When it came back from client review, I heard the editor who was checking it laughing uproariously, so I went to her cube to investigate.

Why she was laughing: The proof had come from the client with this comment: "Please flop photo so people are walking towards camera."

Claire


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 01:07 PM

Bat Goddess, one summer day I noticed two middle-aged men on the street corner consulting a city map. They were wearing jackets with the Green Bay Packers logo on them, so in their defense I must assume that oceans were not their normal habitat. However, they did arrive in big ship on said ocean.

I stopped to see if I could direct them where they wished to go. (Turned out they were looking for the Red Dog Saloon, a local watering hole.)

After a moment, one of them asked me hesitantly, obviously not wishing to hurt my feelings. "Um," he said, "You get a lot of rain here, don't you?"

"Yes," I admitted cautiously.

And he said, "Then why is the water so low?


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 01:05 PM

How about just contributing to the general confusion by sending random requests around all over the place for "that important email you said you were going to send me"? Or complaints about "the faulty product you sent us" (which never happened in the first place)...


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 12:33 PM

"Let me know if you didn't get this email."

I don't do this but I do say something like... Please respond to this email or I will panic and think that the entire Essex County Council mail server has shut down and be forced to call you, probably when you are in an important meeting or worse in the bath.

Gets a response everytime.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: 3refs
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 12:17 PM

I take 2 bottles of water and buy 2 Gatorade at the concession booth at whatever rink/city I'm in.
The conversation 9 times out of 10 goes like this:

"Can I help you?"

"Yes, could I have 2 Orange Gatorade please!"

"Sure! What colour would you like?"


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 12:17 PM

Ebbie -- most people don't understand tides, alas. On either coast. My favorite overheard comment as I walked across the bridge in Kennebunkport back in the '70s (and the river is still very tidal at that point) was a woman saying to her husband, "Isn't it nice how they park the boats all pointing in the same direction." Ayuh, just neatifying the quaintness for the tourists...

I managed a year-round shop (and then I was sold along with it to the local hardware store) with the Tourist Information office right behind us. I kept an ear cocked in that direction. One of these days I plan to publishing a pamphlet of tourist quotations entitled "You Can't Get to Heaven If You're Hit By a Tourist."

Maine Round House sold Jotul and other woodstoves and rya rugs. Tourists would look at the floor display of cast iron stoves and say, "How nice; you don't need a chimney," or "How clever; are they gas or electric?"

For really good work-related stupid quotes, check out
Clientcopia


"Clientcopia : Stupid Client Quotes...

"There's no getting around it. At some point in your career, your patience will be tested with a stupid client who is so clueless that you'll question your sanity, career choice, and the future of mankind.

"You may have dealt with one already, one that just stuns you like a deer in headlights. Dumbfounded to utter anything but an "uhhh...". Some clients have no concept of reality. They make up their mind, just to change it again to an even more hideous decision. And will end up blaming you for the mess. Can we honestly blame the client? Sure we can...

"Clientcopia was created to give you an escape. Take joy in knowing you are not alone. "

Enjoy!
Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: DMcG
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 12:11 PM

Our solution was more bizarre. We discovered that even though the item was out of stock, it would let us order one and pay for it before it arrived. Armed with the till receipt, I had what I wanted wanted, proof I had paid for it and the shop was no worse off, still having one item awry in their inventory.

We did consider 'buying' a completely different item that happened to be the same price, but we weren't sure of the exact legal status of that and it would have put the inventory into an even worse state ...


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 12:00 PM

DMcG:
My nearest example to that was a computer clitch, not a human one (or not the sales staff anyway). I wanted to buy an item, found it on the shelf and took it to the desk. "Sorry, the computer says it's out of stock, I can't sell it." "But it's here." "I know, but it's out of stock." Once we got the terminology sorted out, it turned out the computer system simply would not let them sell an unstocked item, no matter how much you pleaded with it. I knew it existed, they knew, but the computer knew best. A bit like Rapaire's books in reverse, really.
"If you're sure that this item is out of stock, then this must be one I brought in with me. You don't mind if I take it back do you?"


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 11:56 AM

"... switch on an electric drill without removing the gadget to tighten the chuck."

Oh my..having a shop and many tools, I have done such things several times....usually only once for each. Ouch. (Yes, I once turned on a drill with the key attached...while the key was tied to a long cord! Took several minutes to unwrap what took about 2 seconds to wrap.)

These are not the same sort of careless errors as the 'dumb questions' the thread began as, but they do remind us to THINK before we act. There's a fine line between just temporary lapses leading to awkward moments...we ALL have a few of those..., and those who seem like they 'could' cope, but don't. The (possibly apocryphal) story of the woman who called computer tech support to discuss the "cup holder" on her computer comes to mind.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 11:56 AM

DMcG said, in a small part of his/her "confession":

b) Got into the car of a complete stranger and fastened my seatbelt.

This reminded me of a news story of some few years ago, which was very funny, and which inspired me to write this song:

    THE CARJACKING

    Great Aunt Trixie hobbled out on the mall parking lot
    And the sun it was a-broilin', and the asphalt burning hot
    And her shopping bags were heavy, couldn't find her parking spot
    "Gotta find that blasted car right now!"

    She wandered up and down the rows, burning feet and aching back
    When she saw that ancient Chevvy, her jaw it just went slack:
    There were four big men there in her car, the front seat and the      
       back
    "Someone's tryin' to steal my car right now!"

    (Spoken) SHE SCREAMED...........

    "I've got this little pistol, and I know just how to use it
    'Twas my fav'rite Christmas present; grand-niece showed me how to
       use it
    You should know I got a temper, and you don't want me to lose it!
    So you get out of that car right now!"

    Those four men could hear her screamin', they could hear her
       indignation
    The message, it was plain to them, didn't need no explanation
    And it took no 'magination or a second invitation
    And they piled out of that car right now!

    Her pistol back within her purse, she slid beneath the wheel
    She felt that the upholstery, it had a different feel.
    The ignition key would not go in--her blood, it did congeal:
    "Cause this isn't my old car, no-how!"

    (Spoken) "OOH! AND I TOLD THEM.......

    "I've got this little pistol, and I know just how to use it
    Twas my fav'rite Christmas present; grand-niece showed me how to
       use it
    You should know I got a temper, and you don't want me to lose it!
    So you get out of that car right now!"

    She felt sick, she felt humilified, face red WITH morTIFication
    She was one embarrassed citizen, but she had no hesitation.
    She found her own car down the row, drove to the PO-lice station
    To report this blasted mess right now!

    When she told the sergeant there the tale, to her raw humiliation
    He whooped and he hollered, laughter echoed through the station
    Four guys were even then engaged in their report dictation
    Of a carjack done at gunpoint (there was quite a great sensation)
    "She made 'em get out of that car right now!"

    (Spoken wearily) "No charges, lady. Go home."

    (Spoken) SHE'D TOLD THESE GUYS......

    "I've got this little pistol, and I know just how to use it
    'Twas my fav'rite Christmas present; grand-niece showed me how to
       use it
    You should know I got a temper, and you don't want me to lose it!
    So you get out of that car right now!"

    (Spoken) "Grand-niece, do you think I ought to buy some bullets
       for that gun?"

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Alice
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 11:22 AM

I'm sure most of us who work in large companies where you get emails from other departments have seen this in the body of an email...

"Let me know if you didn't get this email."


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Ebbie
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 11:06 AM

Showing the new paint job I had just finished at parents' house to my visiting sister I closed the door to the inner sanctum while inviting admiration from her in the outer room.

Then I looked at the door and said, I want to show you that part too - but wait- there's someone in there.

She said, You closed that door yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: jeffp
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 10:52 AM

Go out the back door to start the grill, slide the screen door shut, then remember the lighter. Walk right into the screen door. In front of the whole family, who were greatly amused. Especially the second time it happened.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: DMcG
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 10:28 AM

So far, I think only Bill D has admitted that the 'they' who walk amongst us could be us. I think its time we confessed to some stupid things we have done ourselves.

Here's a few of mine:

a) Withdrawn cash from an ATM and then walked away without it. I only got about 5 steps, but it had gone by then!

b) Got into the car of a complete stranger and fastened my seatbelt.

c) Book a taxi where they drive on the other side of the road, then try to get into the driver's seat while he's putting cases in the back.

d) Not funny, but certainly stupid: switch on an electric drill without removing the gadget to tighten the chuck.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Dead Horse
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 10:19 AM

Directions
Q "Can I get to (insert place,town, etc) from here?
A "No. You have to start from somewhere else"


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 10:14 AM

I did once have trouble convincing the sales assistant in my local chemists that medicine that wasn't recommended for children under one year was OK for my 15-month old.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: GUEST,Cliff
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 07:55 AM

Senior engineer at work (University Graduate) asks me to have a stainless steel component fabricated in our workshops.
I send the design & order details & 2 days later receive the item.
One hole is 10mm.
"Thats the wrong size", he says, "it should be 8mm"
I told him the only way to fix it was to send it back to the workshop, get the hole filled with weld & re-drilled.
"Can't you just drill it out?" he asked.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 03:33 AM

Howdy stranger,

Well hello there stranger,

Tell me does this road go all the way to Little Rock ?

I've been standin here all day and it aint gone nowhere yet.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 09:03 PM

Dave, I asked them, in essence, to tell me what books had been physically removed from the shelves (stolen, for instance) and yet were listed in the computer as being physically present.

Yes, a physical inventory would be the only thing to tell that. The last time we did a complete inventory was two years or so ago; it took more than two weeks and during that time we were closed. It had been ten or more years since the last one.

Now we do "sample inventories" and if problems crop up we inventory the entire collection (e.g., the collection of adult paperback mystery novels).

It's not library science; it's just good business practice.

If I could afford RFID (which I cannot) I could inventory by running a paddle-shaped reader along the shelf. Not only could this do an inventory, but it would also tell me what books are out of order AND serve as a theft detection system AND a self-checkout system AND could be a self-checkin system. I can't afford that, so folks have to deal with the personal touch.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 07:37 PM

Little Hawk..you've been listening! Those are pretty close to some I've heard....though they are more about whether I 'carve'. Now, the one about deforestation I take seriously and am happy to answer and reassure folks about.

Dave...the shows I enter require all items to be made by the person showing. I don't believe they ask questions like that of most other crafters...but wooden art forms seem to puzzle folks. Clay and jewelry and painting, they 'get'.

I seldom try to discern exactly which of the questions you pose they are asking, and frankly, it doesn't usually 'feel' like any of them, but rather more like.."Gee... I never saw anything like that before, and I can't think of what to ask."


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 07:22 PM

Do you take American money in Alaska? (Yes)

How far north do you have to go before the deer become moose? (huh?)

Why is the glacier so dirty? (Tho dirt is gravel and boulders )

How far above sea level are you? (That's the ocean out there)

Why is the water so low/high? (Oceans have tides)



I don't really think of those questions as being 'stupid', merely the product of a temporarily vacant space.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: GUEST,Slag
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 07:13 PM

LH, I am assuming that your link is to the clip from Nicholson's role in "Five Easy Pieces", one of my all-time favorite movies and scenes. Beautiful.

I have to tell one on myself. I got a call at work one morning from an absentee employee...he wanted to speak with the boss. I couldn't raise the boss on the intercom so I went looking. I found him casually talking with several other co-workers. I told him that so-and-so had called in and wanted to speak with him. "Where is he?" the boss asked. I was caught totally off base by the question "On the phone!" I replied! Everyone burst out into uncontrollable laughter...including bright red me.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 07:07 PM

Bill D, as to the question, someone asks me, "Oh...do you make all these yourself?", what's so dumb about that? (I ask that at the risk of being considered dumb myself, I guess.)

That might mean:
"Are you marketing for a larger group of craftsmen?"
   or
"Do you have associates or partners in your enterprise who make some of these?"
   or maybe,
"Do you buy semifinished shapes and put the final shape and finish on them?"
   or even
"Are these made in China" (or somewhere else) "and imported for you to sell?"

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 06:41 PM

Bill, regarding your turned wood bowls and the other thingies you make...I have some questions.

Does the wood you use come from trees? Do the trees have to be cut down to get it? Does cutting across the grain of the wood hurt the tree? Does it hurt you? Do you keep count of all the trees that have been cut down to supply your wood? Do you think that your hobby may be having a deleterious impact on the Earth's ecosphere by causing rampant deforestation?   

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 06:16 PM

Like Bee-dubya-ell, I do crafts...mine is turned wood - bowls, vases, platters and odd things that are just shapes loosely based on 'rounding' all or part of a piece of wood.
   At least once every show, someone asks me, "Oh...do you make all these yourself?"
Well, I am not sure where they think I got them, but I have adopted a standard answer..."I do...because they wouldn't let me be in the show if I didn't."
This is not 'quite' on the level with some of the items above, but it does exhibit a certain vagueness of thought processes. Often, it is obvious that the person just doesn't cope on the levels of the average show attendee. I do try to be polite in all my answers....and I get asked some very strange questions about wood.


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This whole thread reminds me of Jay Leno's "JayWalking" routine, where he interviews folks on the street about items in the news and facts relevant to them. Then, they play the really, really dumb inept ones for the show. What I learn is that many folks, especially younger ones these days, simply do not have any interest in anything except their personal lives, pop culture & music, cars, or how to get around and find home ans school. They don't know geography, history, politics....and they function 'just fine'...for them...until a Jay Leno asks them questions outside their narrow focus.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Nickhere
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 05:50 PM

Well Sorcha, that was a favorite of ours when we were in school. We would all troop over to the local sweet shop and deliberately annoy the proprietor by asking things like "how much are the penny sweets?" Those were the days.... but I'm sure we must have been a nuisance.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 05:47 PM

My son was once asked 'How much is the free coffee?' REALLY


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Nickhere
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 05:24 PM

A relative of mine (who shall remain nameless) was deeply perturbed one day over an accountancy problem. Seeing her in a spot of bother I asked what was up. "I can't figure this one out" she said, "I've been putting 50 euros a month into the bank for the last year and I seem to be 100 short. But I KNOW the money went into the bank!" She proceeded to demonstrate, counting on her fingers - "look, 50 euros, and 50 euros and 50 euros..." and so on until we arrived at 500 euros instead of the expected 600. "A year, you say?" I asked, she nodded "and since when did you have 12 fingers?" I continued. The good news is that once I said it she immediately got the point and almost p****d herself laughing.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 05:14 PM

A couple of years back I received a phone call from a fellow in Atlanta who had bought some pottery from me at an art festival there and had kept my business card. He asked if we were going to be at the festival again that year (we were) and if I could make something special for him. He explained that he had broken his favorite lidded casserole dish and wanted a replacement. He gave me the exact dimensions, but when I asked him what color glaze he wanted on it he acted a little confused.

"I don't want a colored glaze, I want it to be clear," he said.

"Oh, so you just want a clear glaze with the natural color of the clay showing through?" I asked.

"No," he replied, "I want it clear. Like a window."

It was 100% new information to him when I explained that potters work with clay which is opaque, that what he wanted was something made of glass which is clear and transparent. And I'm still not certain I convinced him. He probably thinks I was making it all up just because I didn't really want to do a special order.


Yes, they walk among us. Fortunately, he walks about 300 miles from where I live.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Snoozer
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 04:03 PM

This happened early one morning. I'm usually the first to arrive at work (a building, in an office complex, with lots of windows) and this particular morning as I was walking to my office, with my first cup of coffee, this guy knocks on a side door as I pass by it. I opened it and he says he has a delivery to make to company XYZ, somewhere in the complex, do I know where that is?
Well, my brain did engage and I tried to recall where I had seen that company name. The think is, I didn't say anything. So after several seconds of my staring, he made a rude comment, so I just closed the door and continued back to my office.
Did I mention I was carrying my *first* cup of coffee.
Oh well, I guess he had a story to tell his buddies.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: robomatic
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 02:18 PM

One used to be able to get write-ins of great IN-DUH-VIDUALS via the Dilbert e-letter. This was discontinued some years ago but may be on the web site, www.dilbert.com.

I don't know if Dilbert, a daily cartoon, makes it over the pond. It ought to, as they felt free to include Steven Hawking as a guest character on their short lived Television show.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 01:50 PM

I am with Ebbie 100%. It takes all of 30 seconds to check out these things through Snopes.com or Truth or Fiction.com. These are both recognized sites that get to the bottom of these types of things. What is the harm? one asks. When we spread a lie all over the world it can have impact on businesses, jobs, and folks lives. I remember the one about being careful walking through the Target Store lot. When I debunked it, I was told that I was rude, and what's the harm? I'll tell you what the harm is. I wonder how much business was lost due to that innocent little lie?

HERE IS THE SNOPES REPORT on this issue. Take a second, read it top to bottom. Then bookmark Snopes.com. And use it.

They walk among us ........ people that would rather spread lies than the truth, and worse, ..... people that pass them on when all it takes is a simple 30 second check to find truth.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 01:33 PM

Several years ago at some festival (before the days of Guitar Hero and Wii) my partner and I overheard a mumbling male youth in dangersouly dropped trousers, proclaim to his mates that he really wanted an air guitar, but he didn't know which kind he should get.

Before I had time to laugh out loud, his mates were rolling all over the grass in guffaws of mirth. This kid was obviously nonplussed by the reaction of his friends.

They walk among us.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 01:30 PM

I didn't find the Snopes story convoluted, John. Evidently the two people had the same last name (Kathy and Fiona).

I agree about using real names. At this point I see no evidence that they used or are using pseudonyms.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 01:26 PM

Ebbie, if what you say about that story being a fabrication is true, I think it is dispicable to have used a persons real name.

And if what you say is true, I'm sorry I passed it on as posted. Had I known it was false, I would have deleted her name, and just passed it on as any apocryphal anecdote.

After reading Snopes convoluted article, I wonder if there really is Kathy Evans who was on the show.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 01:22 PM

Rapaire, you said:

I work in a library. I once asked some computer techs to help me write a program which would identify the books which were listed as being on the shelf but which weren't really there. They must have worked for ten minutes before they realized....

I guess that _I_ don't realize.

First I thought you might mean that the list of what's been checked out and not yet returned would equal "the books which were listed as being on the shelf but which weren't really there," but that won't work.

Striking books listed as "out" from the library's list of books theoretically "on the shelf" will give you what should be there, but it won't account for thefts, for instance. Nor will it identify acquisitions or de-acquisitions which have not been entered properly.

But short of a physical inventory, which is a grand pain in the patootie, to coin a phrase, possibly involving a period of library shutdown, I don't see a way. And avoiding a physical inventory, I would take it, is the whole point of asking for a computer means.

What have I missed? Or maybe I just don't know enough about library science.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 01:19 PM

Bill...here is what Jack Nicholson did when confronted with a restaurant situation similar to the one you were dealing with.

"Hold the chicken..."


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 01:11 PM

I have said - and done - many stupid things in my life, some due to stupidity (failing a logical sequence) or ignorance (not yet knowing something) or just a msssive temporary air bubble. I will no doubt do plenty more.

What currently punches my irritation button is someone either unable or unwilling to recotgnize or to acknowledge the difference between humor and fact.

As Snopes sats clearly the Kathy Evans story is FALSE, being the product of digital manipulation involving two different contestants and two different questions.

I wonder how I would feel if my name and identity became the stuff of ridicule bandied about for years to come?


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: wyrdolafr
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 12:42 PM

Private Eye has a regular mini-feature on the replies that some television/radio contestants give to pretty basic questions.

Whilst brain-fart can happen to the best of us, I think it's pretty charitable to believe that these were responsible for all these kinds of answers.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: olddude
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 12:34 PM

I failed a student in college because he did not show up for the final exam. He came in and told me his grandmother died and that is why he missed his exam. He said he lived with his grandmother. He went home and told his grandmother i flunked him. The next day his grandmother called me at my office and chewed me out for flunking her grandson
I told he she sounded pretty good for a dead lady ...

They walk among us !!

She got really quiet after that and said ... ahh I am sorry


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: DMcG
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 12:26 PM

My nearest example to that was a computer clitch, not a human one (or not the sales staff anyway). I wanted to buy an item, found it on the shelf and took it to the desk. "Sorry, the computer says it's out of stock, I can't sell it." "But it's here." "I know, but it's out of stock." Once we got the terminology sorted out, it turned out the computer system simply would not let them sell an unstocked item, no matter how much you pleaded with it. I knew it existed, they knew, but the computer knew best. A bit like Rapaire's books in reverse, really.


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Subject: RE: BS: they walk among us
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 12:21 PM

Whilst living in Lancashire I was managing a Resource/reception centre for children. One of the staff and her boyfriend supported Blackburn Rovers football team and her boyfriend phoned her at work to ask if she wanted to go that evening to watch Blackburn playing 'Spartak Moscow'.. to which she replied "Are they at home or away"??????// DUHHH


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