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Subject: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Bobert Date: 13 May 09 - 09:09 PM Just what the heck is goin' on with Dick Cheney... He's back to his lie-ass days goin' round the country telling folks that torturing folks saved hundreds of thousands of lives??? And he's gettin' plenty of air time??? I think that both Cheney and Big Media need to pee in the cup... I mean, didn't Cheney get enough liein' in during his 8 years as VP??? Guess not??? B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Peace Date: 13 May 09 - 09:11 PM His first name is an adjective, not a proper noun. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: gnu Date: 13 May 09 - 09:21 PM Or a verbal command? As in, "We should.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Beer Date: 13 May 09 - 09:46 PM I for one think his first name suits him very well indeed. Adrien |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 13 May 09 - 09:48 PM Cheney is doing an AL Gore...it gets lonely outside the white house...and any press is good press....(better two terrified than another two-thousand DEAD!) Get some perspective.
Did you ever reflect ... a mirror of the current world economic situation is .... the previous White Water Real-Estate Scandal?
Bill Clinton's name is being presented for the next Supreme Court Justice.
Sincerely,
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Alice Date: 13 May 09 - 09:48 PM ...it's a little known fact... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: artbrooks Date: 13 May 09 - 09:53 PM It seems like he is trying to reinforce the right-wing of the Republican party's ownership of the flag-waving, my-country-right-or-wrong (but it's always right), God-fearing, unborn-baby-protecting position in the country. It doesn't seem as though he and his bud Rush give a damn about the center-right/moderate wing of the party, which has people like Colin Powell in it. What he is going to end up doing is making the split between the two segments wider and make it much harder for the Reps to get back up on that horse. Not a bad thing, perhaps, but we do better (IMHO) with a strong dissent rather than with one side or the other running away in its own direction. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Riginslinger Date: 13 May 09 - 10:07 PM I think it is reasonable to assume that Colin Powell left the Republican party when he endorsed Obama. Cheney is simply doing what he has to do. He has to steer the public conversation as far right as he can, so the middle won't be agreeable to press ahead with War Crimes. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Ebbie Date: 13 May 09 - 10:51 PM Yeah, what Rig said. I think Cheney has become alarmed at the sudden realization of the legacy he and his patsy are laying. Not to mention that he may feel that prosecution is imminent. Or he may have gone so far around the bend that he is meeting himself- and it scares him. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Janie Date: 13 May 09 - 11:04 PM He still scares me. With hindsight I realize I was naive, but I was absolutely shocked at his statement that he endorsed Limbaugh's views over Powell's. I guess I just don't want to accept that Limbaugh is taken seriously. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Ebbie Date: 13 May 09 - 11:36 PM That's the part I can't take seriously, Janie. I can see no way that he actually means that. If he does, he is certifiably insane. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: michaelr Date: 13 May 09 - 11:39 PM Well, you just don't know Dick. He is the Darth Vader of real life. This being is irreparably, irredeemably sick and corrupt. He has no more claim to being human. Death will be a mercy. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 14 May 09 - 12:52 AM Gee whiz, it was great here when Prezes Clinton and (esp.) Carter were criticizing and second guessing you know who. A little toe pinching here when the shoe is on the other foot? Hmmmm? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Ebbie Date: 14 May 09 - 02:16 AM John on the Sunset Coast: You mean to say that you agree with Dick Cheney or even understand when he says that Rush Limbaugh is a better symbol of the GOP than Colin Powell? If so, I think the GOP is kaput. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity Date: 14 May 09 - 04:23 AM Patriotism is the last resort of scoundrels! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: kendall Date: 14 May 09 - 07:57 AM It looks to me like what he is doing is a kind of "Poisoning the jury pool". He is lying, we know he is lying and all he can do is keep lying. Personally, I hope Limbaugh gets to be head honcho of the republican party. Sure fire way to put it out of business. To claim that they are the party of Lincoln is a joke!What they call themselves means nothing. What they do is everything. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Amos Date: 14 May 09 - 09:22 AM he may have gone so far around the bend that he is meeting himself- and it scares him. LOL, Ebb!! A |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: SINSULL Date: 14 May 09 - 10:46 AM He may also fear that the history of his VP years is being "solidified" now and wants to be sure he gets some recognition rather than all incriminations. I honestly believe he thinks he is right. Unfortunately, all it will take is some major terrorist event within the 48 contiguous (mind you, it is long overdue) to prove him right. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Greg F. Date: 14 May 09 - 10:54 AM I honestly believe he thinks he is right. So did Timothy McVeigh. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Amos Date: 14 May 09 - 10:56 AM I don't believe such an event would make him right anymore than the absence of one proves that the Bush administration "kept the country safe". The key to this short of bullshit is the notion that terrorist attacks are the default value. They are the exception. The NORMAL state of the nation is not being attacked by terrorists. The attacks by terrorists have been so manipulated as a political token by Guliani, Bush, Cheny, Condi, Rove, and their ilk, that the apparency has been created it is the standard condition, the normal situation only to be kept at bay by someone like Bush. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Ebbie Date: 14 May 09 - 10:57 AM I don't think so. Even if a major terrorist event occurred tomorrow, it doesn't validate his beliefs. He and the previous administration failed us in a number of ways. Including, notably, September 11, 2001. It happened during their watch and they had more warning than many governments get. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: John on the Sunset Coast Date: 14 May 09 - 01:14 PM Dear Ebbie: I have reread my post three times. I failed to find anywhere in that short message a note of agreement with the vice-president. My point is that I find it amusing that when liberal leaders criticize conservative administrations there is mass agreement, here. That's fine, but if a conservative leader criticizes the liberal administration, he is crazy, or has some mean or venal motive for such criticism according to accepted ideology on the 'Cat. BTW, if Dems and liberals keep going after Mr. Limbaugh they will be taking their eye off the prize. Keep attacking him...please! But he's really not as important as you folks make him out to be. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Amos Date: 14 May 09 - 01:18 PM I think Dick knows that, and is just waggling the strawman to help cover up his actual concerns. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: SINSULL Date: 14 May 09 - 01:18 PM I should have added "prove him right...to some." |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: GUEST,hg Date: 14 May 09 - 01:58 PM Bush is out of the spotlight with this because they are covering up his Alzheimer's which has been evident for about seven years. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Bill D Date: 14 May 09 - 03:19 PM Pedantic note: The full quote from Cheney about Powell vs. Limbaugh ended with him saying he, as a Republican, would choose Limbaugh over Powell "politically speaking". He wasn't saying that Limbaugh is a nicer guy or anything else....just that he didn't think Powell's views were as 'Republican' as Limbaugh's. What is he doing? He's doing 'pre-emptive strikes' on certain topics- trying to load the news with a set of opinions designed to obfuscate the issues about his clearly illegal activities. I suspect he has actually convinced himself he believes it. It was noted by friends and associates that "Cheney was a different person after 9/11". He seems to believe that we are all in mortal danger from "them". Now, how he gets to "the end justifies the means" mystifies me. He even suggests that **believing** that the means 'might' get you the desired end qualifies. I doubt he'd like my 2 hour lecture on the fallacies in his logic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: kendall Date: 14 May 09 - 04:35 PM Powell is a reasonable republican. Limbaugh and Cheney are whackos. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Bee-dubya-ell Date: 14 May 09 - 08:25 PM Obama should promise Scooter Libby a full pardon (the one Bush refused to give him) if he'll testify that the outing of Valerie Plame as a CIA agent took place under direct orders from Cheney. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Donuel Date: 14 May 09 - 09:46 PM He just doin a CYA In fact his popularity has gone from 7% up to 30% His goal is to taint the jury pool of public opinion so in the event of a war crime trial he will have side arguments and distractions to defray the gravity of his crimes. Watch the neo cons try to go after Pelosi and Eric Holder. "what did they know and when did they know it." |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Janie Date: 14 May 09 - 10:45 PM Well, as noted in the Obama and torture thread, it is appropriate to go after Pelosi. (Don't know about Holder - haven't read about that.) I think it important that everyone be held accountable. The big issue, as always, is sorting out the "spin". Liberals, of which I are one, are going to want to absolutely excuse Pelosi. Neo-cons are going to want to crucify her. Truth is, all are accountable. She may well have been deliberately mislead. But she should have waited with her utter denials until she researched what had actually occurred regarding briefings. She has certainly been around long enough that she should have known to hold comment until she figured out what she had or had not been told. If she had responded with integrity, instead of reacting with denial born of political expediency, she wouldn't be in the hot seat right now, and would not have gven this opportunity to the neo-cons. While I fully understand the gamesmanship involved in American politics, I do not accept it as necessary, and will not excuse it on either side. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: wysiwyg Date: 15 May 09 - 12:03 AM What's with Dick Cheney is to What is Folk as What is Your Ass is to What Is Your Elbow. Insert " and ? liberally and apply. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Riginslinger Date: 15 May 09 - 08:05 AM Is Dick Cheney doing all of this for his own benefit? |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Peter T. Date: 15 May 09 - 08:22 AM He is doing it so as to put a marker in the ground. He is doing it so that the next time there is a terrorist attack (and there will be one, sometime), he can say that the Democrats were traitors to America, and then he can destroy the Democratic Party forever. That is what he is doing. He is setting up the frame for the future. It is blindingly obvious. yours, Peter T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What's With Dick Cheney???... From: Charley Noble Date: 15 May 09 - 08:22 AM Well, the tracks lead to Cheney's office when it came to requesting waterboarding and other extreme interrogation methods be used by those questioning Sadam's inner circle after the invasion of Iraq, in a desperate attempt to confirm a link with Al Quida or the location of weapons of mass destruction. The techniques produced little useful information (as had been predicted), compared with what interrogators harvested initially. These results did not discourage Cheney from requesting that the same methods be used on suspected Al Quida members when they were captured. It would be wrong to recommend that similar measures be applied to Cheney and his staff to persuade them to come clean on what they knew and what they did. Charley Noble |
