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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Bonzo3legs Date: 23 May 09 - 05:43 PM What side effects have been experienced by "statins"? I understand that GPs in the UK receive government payments for prescribing these. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: dick greenhaus Date: 23 May 09 - 12:30 AM Of course, the medication that will insure logevity is low-dose aspirin. Take one a day for 105 years, and you'll live to a ripe old age. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: topical tom Date: 22 May 09 - 01:46 PM Enough to keep me alive but not enough (or the right sort) to get me high ...I don't think...Oh yeah, one of them is alcohol! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 22 May 09 - 12:19 PM I totally avoid "arthritis" by low acid diet. Tomatoes, garg, are fruit/high acid. Love your tomatoes as long as thou canst. May be there was a good reason why I never could eat them? kat: I'll have to pass that along to my younger friends. I used B6 and E to get through that. And for varicose veins - no problem since '77 and they were very bad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: katlaughing Date: 22 May 09 - 11:49 AM greg, you may heel but I heal...oh, and I got tomatoes coming outta my ears, already so....give it a rest! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Peace Date: 22 May 09 - 01:23 AM BUT, You say neither and I say neither You say either and I say either You say potato and I say potato Garg, it simply doesn't work without that fancy scrolling you do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 22 May 09 - 12:05 AM
Sincerly, |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 21 May 09 - 11:58 PM LafKat -
It sincerely, most truly, earnestly...warms the cockles-O'me-heart...
To read a PRO-Active responce to your afflictions ... and positive connection with the EARTH ... you ARE becoming Grounded...and I beleive...thee...like me...have begun to heel.
Sincerely
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: katlaughing Date: 21 May 09 - 11:29 PM I've now got four very vigorous yarrow plants which have been growing for the past five years. Last year, two of them grew to over six feet tall. The other two are doing much better this year than ever before and are already three feet with many buds. In New England, a friend and I went out on St. John's Day to gather St. John's Wort. Put it up in olive oil which it made a beautiful ruby red. Very strong aroma...very good for bruises and such. Dorothy, you've sparked some memories...I used motherwort, hawthorn berry, and dandelion root tinctures for menopausal symptoms. It got to where I craved the tiny sip of pure water with a few drops of each in it...definitely good for my body at the time.:-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Rowan Date: 21 May 09 - 09:45 PM In Oz, Meds is a brand of tampons. Being a bloke, I haven't seen the need to take any. Yet. Cheers, Rowan |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 21 May 09 - 12:54 PM Well, no doubt a pure spirit helps and there is clear evidence of it in all types of health care. Darn! that means I'll be stuck here forever! ???? I'll just have to try harder.... Bob: such a to do! It's OK guys. Now we are friends! Thanks, bobad. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,hg Date: 21 May 09 - 11:52 AM garg, some people think being disease free is from having a pure spirit and that all disease is spirit malaise... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 21 May 09 - 11:40 AM Thanks bobad, I just found her minutes ago, and then saw your post. She has my friend request...bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: bobad Date: 21 May 09 - 11:36 AM Bob, Dorothy's MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/447956642 |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 21 May 09 - 11:32 AM Dorothy, please friend me on MySpace. I'll try to find you but I don't know what name you're under, or which mutual friends you are referring to. The Yellow Door has been a big part of my life. One can never have too many friends...Bless...bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 21 May 09 - 10:35 AM Life is for LIVING and love is for giving, and... forgiving. Gargoyle: love your herbs, I do a few myself. But where do drugs come from - ??? lots come from herbs so maybe we are not drug-free! And St. John's Wort works better than or as well as any pharmaceutical anti-depressant, according to a friend who tried everything. Have you tried Pau d'Arco? Bob: you can find me on myspace via our mutual friend(s). I see you everywhere! URLs are beyond me. I figured you have enough friends! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Date: 21 May 09 - 04:45 AM I do believe in modern medicine - and prevention.
I grew up with herbs..I understood herbs before understanding the configuration of a western chord. Before they could be copyrighted (perhaps in the UK they already are) the medicinal qualities of various plants were catalogued in writing - and passed on through oral history. I would say - my current home library - is balanced even between musical-folk-history and folk- herbal-history....the music I purchased and the herb books are legacy.
I am currently blessed with an active, vibrant, disease free life:
Upon HEED - these are the herbs I grow (and pluck wild in the fields) and most commonly use when in medical distress.
Comfrey
In Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet Friear Lawernce is well versed in plants O, mickle is the powerful grace that lies
For those that require THC - I consider your situation legit if it is 6 months until verified terminal....for you tortured poor souls ...what can we say???....4:20 comes more than twice a day...
Sincerely,
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Peace Date: 21 May 09 - 02:14 AM Well said, Barry. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Barry Finn Date: 21 May 09 - 02:13 AM Who'd want to know what meds I take & why? I take so many that there's not enough room here to list them. They don't do much for me except that without them I die, slowly, maybe I'd last out the month but I wouldn't look good. It'd be a closed casket. I don't do recreactional drinking or drugs, don't think I don't want to. Reading this thread makes me think I should & that I'm missing out on a big secret. Reading this thread through is like being on drugs I will never be drug free but I wasn't as a teenager either so I'm still a kid at heart Barry |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: katlaughing Date: 20 May 09 - 11:15 PM Bob, HELL YEAH!!**bg** |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 20 May 09 - 10:34 PM Thanks for the kind words Little Hawk...bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Little Hawk Date: 20 May 09 - 09:30 PM Hey, Bob, I just listened to your song "The Ghost of Elvis" on your site...good stuff! Very cool. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 20 May 09 - 09:16 PM Peace: Dare you trifle with me on nudity? A man, who once had a ladyfriend over, and bet her I would "run around the the house naked"? Then, removing my clothes and revealing my then AWESOME physique, MASSIVE pecs, glutes that could crack walnuts... Then, went outside, and ran around the house, nikkid... HA! Dorothy: My MySpace FYI... http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46552921 Life. Live it or die(or something like that) bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Peace Date: 20 May 09 - 09:07 PM That's when they see you naked, Bob. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 20 May 09 - 09:00 PM Gee Dorothy, great to hear from you(and bobad). All I remember was that you could make a sandwich for $.15. Slice of ham $.5, slice of bread, $.5 , and slice of cheese, $.5. A meal fit for a Folksinger! And the coffee for sure. Good to know I make women laugh. I think... bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 20 May 09 - 07:09 PM Geez, 40 years and Bob finally made me laugh! (dorothy from the yellow door, Bob) I know what your problem is! You never ate the good food I served?!!!! (I wouldn't even eat that stuff now.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: bobad Date: 20 May 09 - 07:06 PM Hey Bob, I'm glad you're taking those meds......DON"T STOP! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 20 May 09 - 06:03 PM And when I do go, just wait til I meet God and show HER my list of "life improvements" and how SHE could have set up life much better for everybody, just wait... bob |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 20 May 09 - 05:56 PM As Jack Benny once said when asked at gunpoint..."Your money or your life?! A. "I'm THINKING, I'm THINKING..." Jeri, you wanna go for me and tell me how it is? bob :<) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Jeri Date: 20 May 09 - 05:46 PM So you're not gonna die? Ever? Me, I got stuff for my stomach and stuff for cholesterol and a bunch of other stuff that won't kill me if I don't take it but may make life very unpleasant. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Date: 20 May 09 - 05:41 PM Hi Kids: So I ask my Doctor(s), "Do I really have to take these?, they're expensive...) Response..."If you don't take these, you will die..." Heartwarming(pardon the pun) So... Apo-Carvedilol(25mg) Apo-Furosemide(40mg) Coumadin(4mg) Lanoxin(0.25mg) Zestril(10mg) Euro-K(1500mg) Advair 125 2 puffs per day This has been going on for nearly a year, but as we say over here, "every day above grass is a good day..." I go back for a check-up and my Doctor(s) tell me, "I'm doing fine" Q.Well then, how long do I have to keep taking these? A."Until you die" Doc says, "see, it's like this, after going through what YOU went through, we find that 1 in 3 die if they don't take the Meds. And if you TAKE the Meds, it's 1 in 20,,,"Yikki Yikki Yay! So it's "The Breakfast of Champions" for me...Coffee, doughnut, Meds... Q. Or, As Myron Cohen(I think) said when asked, "How's the job!? A. "It's a living. If you call this living..." Now, where's my water so my little pill can make me pee....? Sorta like having a car, to get to the job, to pay for the car, but what the hey, Is everybody having a good time? Can I get a HELL YEAH? bob . |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Mallee Date: 19 May 09 - 09:06 PM Try googling Utilitairian Bioethics Were all safe knowing our health and longevity are in safe hands TRUST ME, NOT. Take a stand NOW |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 19 May 09 - 08:46 PM LH and I are still on the same page. Since being environmentally poisoned almost ten years ago - walking up one flight of stairs which had just been carpeted; yep, that's all. I almost passed out; I turned white, so I'm told. four and a half years later, I got my health back, by de-toxing. The doctors at occupational health did not have a clue, nor did any other doctors I tried. Staff member at the EPA said, "If you can find help, let me know, my wife has the same problem. I have read voraciously on the subject. Believe what you like guys. The doctors were hard put to find a cause for my breast cancer (all gone now) due to my life-long healthy life style (I was indignant!); how bout living 17 years in an area of high radiation from uranium mines? Highest incidence of cancer in Canada. OR the study by the U of Texas showing that wherever there is a high level of mercury in the environment, there is a high incidence of autism. Talk to me about glucosamine, kat. It does me a world of good when I need it. But every body is different. I know a 90 year old in incredible health who all but lives on sugar and has all her life. No diabetes. She LOVES Sara Lee! Half a piece of her birthday cake and I was stuffing potato chips in me to counteract the sugar. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Peace Date: 19 May 09 - 08:09 PM I love Sara Lee. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: dick greenhaus Date: 19 May 09 - 07:56 PM In the interest of conserving bandwidth, I decline to be specific. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Little Hawk Date: 19 May 09 - 04:40 PM Well, if you find that you HAVE to take some drug(s) to avoid illness or death, then of course you do. And so would I. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: katlaughing Date: 19 May 09 - 04:14 PM GREEN WELLIES, I agree...until there was no alternative but dying, I loathed putting any kind of chemical in my body, though I did have to cope with a heart valve which was either broken from birth or injured by a childhood illness. Those one or two drugs kept me alive while technology grew by leaps and bounds and I was able to get a new valve. Now, I take drugs to be sure I stay as healthy as possible. I KNOW that sounds like anathema to some. Back when I was writing my op/ed column I wrote a humdinger against letting drug companies advertise (they were not allowed to at the time, remember those days?)...it didn't do any good...they were given the green light and that, to me, is a horrible disservice to all of us. I used to be like Dorothy and Little Hawk, all natural tinctures, teas, etc. Now I have to be much more careful about what goes in the mix. I am thinking about getting back to making my own kombucha tea and maybe trying some glucosamine. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Donuel Date: 19 May 09 - 03:44 PM Whats up with all these drugs that say a side effect is suicide? Just who were these class of drugs designed for, DARPA, the Pentagon, the Defense Department? If screwing with people's serotonin is so dangerous they should try a different approach. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Little Hawk Date: 19 May 09 - 12:12 PM It's quite true, pdq, that "you can't make people do anything they don't want to do". Agreed! I am not suggesting making people do anything (except obey the civil laws). But what I am suggesting is a society and a medical fraternity that would spend a lot more effort in advising people as to what they might do to be healthy....and would provide more incentives and facilities for them to do what is healthy...and would educate them better in that respect...and would provide far better leadership and far better role models for them to aspire to in that respect. I am suggesting the encouragement of people, not control or regimentation of people. The present social order actively encourages people to overeat, to eat junk food, to drink soft drinks, to sit on their asses all day long, to indulge themselves in every way possible...and why? So some business can make money on their physical and behavioural addictions, that's why. Well, that's what happens in a decadent society, isn't it? And things deteriorate. **** You are quite right about the overpopulation problem. Again, what is needed to deal with that is better education, a better standard of living and education for the poor (it is the poorest and most ignorant people in a society who always have the highest birthrate), better role models for the young. If you demonstrate high ideals and self-discipline in front of young children, they will understand and respond in kind. If you demonstrate greed, irresponsibility, carelessness, violence, and waste in front of young children, they will imitate it and they will get lost in it. As you say, "now is a great time to live". Agreed. There have been many advances. However, there is much we can do to continue improving certain things in society. I'm not suggesting turning the clock back to 1900. That just isn't possible. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Becca72 Date: 19 May 09 - 11:36 AM Depo-Provera (as I am still of child-bearing age) Calcium and Vitamin D to counteract the side effects of Depo-Provera Albuterol (though when I went to refill my scrip the last time I was told they have taken Albuterol off the market because the propellant is "bad for the environment". Been breathing the shit in since I was about 4, thanksverymuch!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GREEN WELLIES Date: 19 May 09 - 11:32 AM Dont ask me the names but: morning - 1 white and two pink teatime - two pink bedtime - two pink two blue The consultant said last week I have a choice, stay on them and stay healthy (and I feel better at the moment than I have done in years) or, as the 'problem' seems to be going shall 'we'(I had no idea he was taking them too!) come off them and 'see how we go?'. As much as I like to feel well, I dont like the idea of filling my body with chemicals that I may not need. But the other side of the coin is being chemical free but the possible return to pain, hospital visits, proding and poking. I didnt believe in taking meds - until there was no choice. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: pdq Date: 19 May 09 - 11:08 AM " Let them live a bad lifestyle...let them get fat, lazy, unhealthy, and sick..." What it really comes down to is this: you can't make people do anything they don't want to do. If you accept that fact, you may live a happier life. Everything wrong with people is from environmental pollution? No, the food we eat is safer now than it ever has been. In the past, food spoiled because of poor refrigeration. Until the 1930s we still had ice boxes in cities and damp canvass boxes in the rural areas. Water? In years gone by, wells were unfiltered and people got whatever amount of lead, arsenic and other minerals that happened to be dissolved in the water. Also no cholorination to kill microbes. Air pollution? Maybe, but it is not responsible for all of man's ills. Besides, people out here in the rural boonies have exactly the same problems and ailment as everyone else. Now is a great time to live except for one problem: people. There are too many people and too many of them are violent and antisocial. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Little Hawk Date: 19 May 09 - 10:39 AM It's the lazy and stupid approach to dealing with public health. Let them live a bad lifestyle...let them get fat, lazy, unhealthy, and sick. Then rush in with the medical fire brigage of drugs, surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy...AFTER the damage has been done. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 19 May 09 - 10:24 AM The marketing practices of the pharmaceuticals are costly - they cost the consumer. The efficacy is in serious doubt. What do they actually cure? Think about it. Then, really think about it. The humungous costs of "health" care could be reduced to broken bones and the very few curable illnesses. If the money were spent on cleaning up the environment and teaching people preventive self care, we would still have money left over. When the nurse practitioner at the cancer clinic responded to my query, "why the increasing incidence of breast cancer" with and immediate, "it's the environment", I started looking at that concept. Sure enough, there is ever increasing evidence. Money spent on pharmaceuticals when the environment is the cause.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Zen Date: 19 May 09 - 09:52 AM I find 100mg quitsquitin complex helps with the BS attacks. Zen |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: GUEST,hg Date: 18 May 09 - 10:54 PM that isn't gargoyle, my friends. As a long time gargoyle watcher, I say IMPOSTER! |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Little Hawk Date: 18 May 09 - 10:46 PM I agree with you, bobad, it is the pharmaceutical companies who are the main problem. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: bobad Date: 18 May 09 - 09:07 PM With all due respect to Dorothy and Little Hawk I think you are both confusing the marketing practices of "Big Pharma" with the efficacy of modern pharmaceuticals. The advancement of therapeutic agents in recent years has been nothing short of remarkable and many millions, if not billions, of people are enjoying a quality of life that was unavailable to them just a few years ago. It is research scientists who do the heavy lifting in the field, the pharmaceutical companies are the agents for the product, much like agents who manage and exploit musicians, and like them should all be put up against a wall and shot. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 18 May 09 - 08:39 PM LH: again we are on the same page. I have something akin to contempt for most of mainstream medicine and pharmaceuticals. Work with seniors who take one med for A and two more to counter the effects of the first one and maybe a couple more to..... Other than the so called "anti cancer" drugs which might cause.....- even worse thing (I quit that when I read the info) I have not had a pharmaceutical in about 20 years. But I LISTEN to my bod and even my physician in PA did not doubt me. He gave an excellent lecture on reasons for the high costs of (alleged) health care and how the pharmaceutical companies screw the public. He wished, out loud, for my energy - he is 11 years younger. |
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Subject: RE: BS: What Meds Do You Take? From: bobad Date: 18 May 09 - 07:29 PM "I do not necessarily have faith in the propaganda dispensed by giant money-making organizations and corporations who pay for ads on TV" This statement betrays a lack of knowledge of the process involved in getting drugs out on the market, but then that's why there is no shortage of snake oil peddlers out there getting rich off the public's ignorance. |
