BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 02:21 PM

Well, here comes one of "Chris's" assertions (about those nice, peacable BNP members) shot down in flames:


LONDON (Reuters) - Three people have been charged with racially aggravated public order offences after a group heading to a far-right British National Party camp on Saturday taunted anti-racism protesters, police said.

Derbyshire police arrested 19 people during the mainly peaceful anti-BNP rally near a farm outside the village of Codnor where the BNP's Red, White and Blue festival was held over the weekend.

The three were among a group who crossed fields to get to the camp on foot under police escort as hundreds of demonstrators waving placards saying "the BNP is a Nazi party" blocked road access to the site.

The BNP, which campaigns to halt immigration and repatriate immigrants voluntarily, won its first two seats in the European Parliament in June.

Although it has no representatives in the British parliament, the party has won support from white voters angry about unemployment and access to public housing and other services during the worst recession in generations.

(Reporting by Daniel Fineren; Editing by Steve Addison)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Emma B
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 12:32 PM

The Hammerskin Nation is the most violent and best-organized neo-Nazi skinhead group in the United States.
A number of its members have been convicted of harassing, beating or murdering minorities

According to Ed Wolbank, past director of the Northern Hammerskins in St. Paul, Minnesota,

"Music is number 1.
It's the best way to reach people.
Through music people can start getting into the scene, then you can start educating them. Politics through music."

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 12:19 PM

Emma B. Yes, and the only reason the European nazis who attended the hatefest were allowed into the country was because of the EU regulations allowing free movement of EU member citizens. Something to which the BNP is utterly opposed.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Emma B
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 12:15 PM

and one who never made the festival....

American white supremacist Preston Wiginton was stopped by UK Border Agency officials at Heathrow Airport and sent back to New York, as he attempted to make his way to the festival.

Wiginton first appeared on the white nationalist scene in October 2005, not long after he turned 40, when he attended Hammerfest, a neo-Nazi skinhead festival in Draketown, Ga

One month after Hammerfest, he organized a lecture at Texas A&M University by anti-immigration extremist Frosty Wooldridge.

When about 100 anti-racist protesters surrounded Wiginton and Wooldridge in a "free speech zone," Wiginton threatened to "bring in the Hammerskins," apparently a reference to members of Hammerskin Nation, a nationwide coalition of violent skinhead gangs.

Wiginton's next public move was the NoAztlan aerial banner campaign. By his own account, he paid $5,500 for a gigantic banner that bore the message, "USA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT," a crossed-out Mexican flag and the Internet address of Wiginton's conspiracy theory website NoAztlan.Com (a reference to an alleged secret plan by Mexico to reconquer the southwestern United States)

The website it promotes contains an essay by Wiginton that describes non-white immigration as "an abnormal growth that is threatening the life of American culture and the life of American people. If action is taken, and time is of the essence, this cancer can be eradicated,"

He strategically limits his Jew-bashing and endorsements of racially motivated violence to his personal website and a handful of white supremacist online forums including Stormfront, which he joined in October 2006 using the screen name "Ruskybound."

He has since repeatedly boasted on Stormfront of his close relationship with Alexander Belov, the former spokesman for the Russian ultranationalist and virulently anti-Semitic group Pamyat.

last October he co-sponsored another lecture at Clemson with the Council of Conservative Citizens a white supremacist organization - this one by Nick Griffin, the Holocaust-denying chairman of the BNP.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: jeddy
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 12:12 PM

i don't normally advocate violence, but sometimes i think it might be easier.   it might sound like i was being serious, but i was more letting off steam. it is so hard to keep myself on a tight rein as far as my, not hatred but somewhere near it is concerned.

it is good to let it out sometimes.

don't worry, i would never actually do anything that would make me feel like i was doing anything that the BNP would aprove of.

this is why i am so for free speech, even if my whole body is screaming with distaste.

someone on here reminded me that, " i might not agree with someone but i will defend your' right to say it".

take care all

jade x x x x

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 10:16 AM

Jeddy. Careful. Griffin has already said he wants to get rid of British born 'immigrants' by throwing them out of a plane over Africa. I know you'd have to be going some, but let's not even try to sink to their level.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: jeddy
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 07:34 AM

what's beverly to do with the price of halibut? apart from wierd folks living there.

could we not throw the BNP out of a plane over the sea please, we could get a nice harmony of screams as they fall!

take care all   :0)

jade x x x

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 07:17 AM

Personnally I would move it (the BNP not Beverley) to somewhere in the middle of the North Sea without a boat!

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 06:04 AM

The Leveller. "In Chris's case, I think 'moderate' (intelligence)would be something of an over-statement."

Kinda looks that way to me. Otherwise, how do you explain his post of 17 Aug 09 05:53 AM?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 05:53 AM

theleveller, Why would you want Beverley to change venue ? I feel it certainly has a lot of advantages and it seems to go well. I would have to disagree with you, it would be a shame to move it.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: theleveller
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 03:40 AM

"They are of moderate intelligence and education but lack the ability to speak well."

In Chris's case, I think 'moderate' would be something of an over-statement. It's just so easy to shoot his assertions down in flames that it's hardly worth bothering - waste of time getting into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 07:39 PM

BTW, the name you seek is on the BNP membership list. That should narrow it down for you.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 07:38 PM

I must have missed it Bruce, enjoy day there, love to Lisa.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 07:36 PM

Nope. You didn't miss it. I said it and now I know what I wanted to know. That's the last of our conversation fuckhead.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 07:04 PM

Well peace, The BNP don't make idle promises. You were to make a public statement last Thursday, did I miss it ?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Peace
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 06:49 PM

The biggest weakness the BNP have is people like "Chris". They are of moderate intelligence and education but lack the ability to speak well. That is, they seem unable to use fact, so in typical Nazi fashion they declare something to be so and wait for the facts to follow. When the facts don't follow--which they never do in Chris's case--he changes the topic. SSDD.

CONGRATULATIONS to all of you who went to show the BNP for what it is: scum. As for the remark about some protest guy smokin' a doobie and another person having some piercings and two people holding hands: that is rich. Rich indeed coming from a 'political party' like the BNP (I do not consider them such) that embraces people who think rape is just sex and women should shut up about it; a 'political part' that has so many convicts in the organization; a 'political party' that has members who take underaged teenaged girs into hotels; a 'political party' based on hatred and fueled by stupidity, alcohol and assorted perversions.

Good work all you ladies and gentlemen who spoke for people in places other than England.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 04:23 PM

You mean scary novels like "The Leopard's Spots" or "The Traitor" - or even "The Clansman"?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Lox
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 03:11 PM

No surprise to see that the claims made by the pro BNP lot here (AR etc) are not backed up with any evidence.

With imaginations like that they should stick to writing scary novels ...

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 03:00 PM

Royston. "On a demo-turnout of 1,500 people that's pretty amazingly good." Yes. I reckon we can be proud of what we acheived yesterday. No punch ups, no drunks, no rowdies, no trouble with local residents, and no litter. All we left was a message, loud, clear and unequivocal, that we will not tolerate nazism in this country under any circumstances.

That is the way to tackle these race hate scumbags. Start using violence, start mixing it with the police and we'll be the losers. Let Codnor be the touchstone for all future anti-fascist activity.

"Lambertus Nieuwhof". Isn't he the geezer who runs the BNP website?

BTW. The stewards announced that we got within 150 metres of the entrance to "mein campf". I've studied the google map of Codnor Denby Lane, blown up as large as I could go, and I reckon we were even closer than that. If I've figured out where those BNP brats were gawping at us correctly, then we must have stopped right by the entrance to the farm.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: GUEST,Dai
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 02:46 PM

Amazing the number of pro apartheid South African white supremacists who have become active in the neo nazi movement in the UK.

Socialist Unity has a good video clip of the right wing racist thugs being routed in Birmingham 2 weeks ago. "Nazi scum get out of Brum " has a poetic ring about it ...and as one of the commentators said on Socialist Unity the white supremacist thugs were shown up as a bunch of inept cowards!
Dai

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Royston
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 02:29 PM

We all know what Guest "Chris" is, we know what his friends are. Now the dust is settling it is becoming clear that there were 19 arrests on the day for public order offences: mainly not obeying police orders on the route and boundaries of the protest and for obstructing the highway. Charges have only been brought against four people. Three for "public order offences" (this normally means failing to obey police directions) and one for osbtructing the highway. On a demo-turnout of 1,500 people that's pretty amazingly good.

Sorry Chris, no drugs, no violence, no weapons offences.

As Emma pointed out, inside the field we had headline speeches by convicted neo-nazi terrorists and the presence of all the usual rag-tag criminals (proof provided here ad nauseum) including Lambertus Nieuwhof who is a south african terrorist convicted of bombing a primary school and of course Nick Griffin (1998, convicted of incitement to racial hatred.)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 01:27 PM

Emma B. Good to see you yesterday, even if it was only very briefly. Keep the stuggle going.

"I can't see any mention of drugs or weapons - all the reports seem to indicate any 'weapons' used consisted of plastic bottles and bags of flour"

Of course you wouldn't. Guest Chris is just another BNP clone attempting to stir up trouble. (Thinks. perhaps that should be the same BNP clone under another name).

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Emma B
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 01:15 PM

Just as a point of contrast -

The BNP supporters at the camp were treated to an address by Roberto Fiore, the leader of the Italian far-right party Forza Nuova and a friend of the BNP leader Nick Griffin
He spoke to the Red, White and Blue Festival about the "threat" to Europe from Islamic extremism.

Mr Fiore, who once said he was happy to be described as a neo-fascist, was sentenced in 1985 to 10 years prison in Italy, in his absence, for being a member of the political wing of the Armed Revolutionary Nuclei, a fascist terror group.

The group's armed wing was implicated in the Bologna bombing of 1980, which killed 85 people. Mr Fiore's jail term was eventually "timed out" under Italy's statute of limitation laws, and he was able to return to his homeland in April 1999.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Emma B
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 01:08 PM

Well I think the police were great too in the support that they gave to our protest - even protecting our blockade from having cars driven through.

A police spokeswoman said they were pleased that the vast majority of the 1500 plus protestors had been peaceful and co-operative and acting assistant chief constable Steve Cotterill said: "We are pleased the protest has been mainly peaceful. We have made fewer arrests than last year."
Officers made a total of 19 arrests for "sporadic behaviour" - fewer than last year.

From todays press -
'Four people have been charged after a protest by about 1,500 people against the BNP's 10th annual Red, White and Blue festival in Derbyshire.
Three were charged with public order offences and a fourth with unlawfully obstructing the highway.'

I can't see any mention of drugs or weapons - all the reports seem to indicate any 'weapons' used consisted of plastic bottles and bags of flour

I travelled on an 'official' UAF coach - in fact absolutely no drugs (excluding cigarettes) or weapons were allowed on board.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 12:49 PM

I think the police did a wonderful job yesterday. They made several arrests among the protestors, no BNP arrests. I see in todays paper some of the arrests were for drugs and weapons offences ! Not a very peaceful protest think I.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Emma B
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 12:44 PM

Chris, to quote from the Government website -

"The right to peaceful protest is a vital part of democracy, and it has a long, distinguished history in the UK. .

Taking part in a demonstration, rally or protest is a high-profile way to take a stand on issues important to you.

Protests can make a real difference – leading to changes in governmental policies and laws.

Peaceful protests allow people to come together and stand up for what they believe in, and can be a very effective way of promoting change

The Human Rights Act protects freedom of expression and freedom of assembly – these form the basis for your right to gather with others and protest.

The act forbids governments and other public bodies (including police) from violating these rights.
However, it does allow for some limitations on these rights in order to prevent unrest, violence and crime, and for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.

Police have a duty to provide protection and assistance for peaceful protests,

A sit-down protest or a blockade – even a peaceful one – can be stopped if it blocks road traffic or public walkways. Any racist chants or threats of violence – even in an otherwise peaceful protest – are not acceptable, and those involved could be arrested and charged."


Please note 'CAN be stopped'
Despite the very heavy police presence with several vans and five mounted police the road blockade remained without challenge
There were never any threats of violence against the few BNP 'spectators' despite the large difference in numerical strength.

Those few protesters that chose later to disrupt the otherwise peaceful nature of the protest were duly arrested - I have no problems with that; I would expect the police to do the same to BNP supporters who engaged in racist chants etc or other forms of anti-social behaviour.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 12:29 PM

Did it grate with you lot that the evil protestors were blocking the road while that nice nail bomber Copeland was victimised for just killing a pregnant woman and her unborn child, one other person and injuring dozens of others?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 12:23 PM

I'm am sure that the BNP members at the gathering were very careful to make sure that any illegal and/or racist language or behavior was not witnessed by the police or press or any decent human beings. The protest on the other hand was very public and not like the cowards who were probably ranting out of public view.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 12:07 PM

Superb report, Emma, as the press rarely reports on 99% of what happens at a gathering. Was there any positive feedback from local people?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 11:53 AM

Well Emma B the event took place and was very well attended. I do hope none of you took part in any illegal acts. Were any BNP members or supporters arrested or was it just the illegals ?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: theleveller
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 11:51 AM

Thanks for your post Guest:Chris, it's reassuring to have proof of what we already knew - that BNP supporters really are a lower species of being with IQs less than the average plant. Please let's have some more comments from you - we all enjoy a good laugh :0

Emma and all the others who turned out, well done with your protest - wish I could have been there.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Emma B
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 11:37 AM

¡No Pasarán!

The coach I travelled in was 'assigned' to blocking vehicular traffic to the BNP camp at one end of Codnor Denby Lane - all 'local' vehicles were allowed through.

There were approximately 200 people representing a teachers union, Unison, the journalists union, Chesterfield Trades Council and some local people from the area of the camp - shock horror! some wore piercings and tattoos!

Alongside us the church on the corner of the junction held a multidenominational prayer service throughout with clergy from other local churches and offered us the use of their facilities - the toilet was met with particular gratitude.

Although there was a very large police presence (some chatted with us) the atmosphere was generally good natured with singing and chanting although two individuals wearing half race masks were questioned about their identity.
There were also present a number of easy visably identifiable 'legal observers' who attended these 'ad hoc' pavement interviews and searches

At no time were any batons even removed and, although the one occasion the horses were used to make room for police reinforcement vans to pass through was very intimidating - this too passed without any 'incident'.

I understand that after the main protest dispersed having reached the entrance to the camp site some people remained behind in an attempt to access the site and some of these were subsequently arrested.

It was nice to finally bump into Fred on the way back to the coach.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: GUEST,Steve Howlett
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 11:17 AM

The national news report focussed on the violence and arrests, and gave the fat Welsh git the opportunity to criticise the "liberal establishment" (what?) for allowing the demo in the first place, but I'm glad the message got through to the locals. If it happens next year, (which God and the local authorities forbid!) I may be there as I'm retiring soon and moving to Derbyshire.
(I haven't got any tattoos, but I sometimes wear an earring. And I don't smoke any more. Not anything. Not any more.)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: jeddy
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 10:42 AM

well noticed owen, i missed the irony.

i know i post here alot, but some people really need to have a life instead of sitting in front of their pc. bless him, i think he might hve some dodgy tattoos that he cannot show in public anymore, and is jealous that some of us have better taste.

take care all

jade x x x

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 10:27 AM

Now I have seen everything. An apologist for the BNP complaining about tattooed skinheads.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 09:23 AM

Typical ... intellectually incapable of defending BNP so he plays the man instead of the ball. So the haircut of an anti-nazi protestor makes racism and fascism acceptable??? Answer the question if you are not too stupid.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 08:21 AM

Here's a troll, foll de roll.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 08:06 AM

Did you see the quality of those protesting against the BNP on the news? One girl with a skinhead haircut and three rings throughher nose, another guy had his eyes rolling in his head holding a joint. Two men holding hands and hugging into eachother. The police should not have arrested them, most I saw seemed to require professional help ! LMAO

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 06:10 AM

I don't know whether this is just a bit of media hype, but I've found the following statement on AOL news:

"A three-day BNP festival is set to close after a major police operation to ensure a demonstration against the event passed off peacefully." The full story is at

http://news.aol.co.uk/protest-and-scuffles-at-bnp-event/article/2009081510431813948004

I can only say that it was a magnificent demonstration, that it left the good people of Codnor in no doubt over our feelings about fascism, and that a few minor incidents apart, it passed off peacefully.

Hopefully, if the BNP don't close their hate fest voluntarily then the local council will find some way of doing it for them. Otherwise, it will be a case of same time same place next year.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 03:27 PM

If I were one of those arrested, I would be asserting that the police statement that (some) protesters "acted unlawfully" was a contempt of court under teh Contempt of Court Act. (clue, it all depends on the meaning of the word "impending").

I might go further and assert that it was a common law contempt too.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Peace
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 03:16 PM

"Protesters arrested at BNP rally
A total of 19 people have been arrested after around 1,500 anti-fascist demonstrators joined a protest march near the site of a BNP festival."

Came up in the last hour.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 02:44 PM

I hear on the wireless that there have been a number of arrests in Codnor - but I know not of whom.

I also hear that protestors tried to block junctions to prevent speakers arriving in time to speak. The events may be connected: there are ways and ways to block rods - but not many are lawful. Most amount to "obstructing the highway" - and oddly, one of the other bees in my bonnet is rights of highway.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Peace
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 11:26 AM

From The Times August 13, 2009

Former football hooligans regroup in far-Right Casuals United

They see themselves as the vanguard in a battle for the soul of Britain against extremist Islamist forces — the "enemy within" bent on imposing Sharia. Casuals United announced their arrival on Saturday when a small army of shirt-sleeved, middle-aged men with beer bellies clashed in a flurry of punches and kicks with young Asians in Birmingham city centre.

The group, which is closely affiliated with the far-right English Defence League, insists that it is a peaceful movement representing ordinary working people angered by the sight of Muslims hurling insults at British soldiers on homecoming parades. But if the chants of "England, England" and the aggressive posturing appear familiar, it is because they are.

The members of Casuals United are largely former football hooligans drawn from the terraces and, according to their critics, are essentially the BNP and National Front repackaged. The groupings have attracted the support of BNP activists including Chris Renton, who created the English Defence League website.

Jeff Marsh, the leader of Casuals United, told The Times that the organisation was a "mixed-race group of English people, from businessmen and women, to football hooligans".

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He said: "I came up with the idea to unite football fans to forget their petty rivalries and come together in a national movement. There are a lot of people in their forties and fifties who used to be hooligans but went on to settle down. A lot of young football fans want to get involved."

Mr Marsh, who holds a degree in criminal justice, claims to have support among serving soldiers and points to the activities of army wives on the website Armchair Warriors. "Their men can't be seen to be supporting us directly," he said.

The new beast on the far Right came to prominence when its members clashed with anti-fascist protesters in Birmingham on Saturday. Police made 30 arrests and are still studying closed-circuit television footage.

According to the anti-fascist group Searchlight, Casuals United was created after the trouble in March when Islamists demonstrated against troops returning from Afghanistan to Luton. Two months later, members of Casuals United marched through the town and last month they picketed an Islamic roadshow in North London.

Mr Marsh, 44, whose book The Trouble with Taffies is an account of football violence in South Wales, confirmed that the Luton parade had been the catalyst. He said that a generation of former football hooligans were stirred to action by the sight of Muslim extremists abusing the men of the Royal Anglian Regiment.

After the group was outnumbered by United Against Fascism in Birmingham on Saturday, Mr Marsh pledged that it would return to the city on August 30. The group is also planning a protest in Manchester in October.

The Casuals make full use of modern communications, using social networking websites, notably Facebook, where there are about 40 branches, many of which declare allegiance to various football clubs. The Arsenal branch sums up the group's manifesto, saying that it was formed to "protest peacefully against the Government allowing Islamic Hatemongers to live in our country while raising money for terror abroad, cursing our soldiers and trying to force Sharia law on us".

Gerry Gable, of Searchlight, said: "We predicted real trouble in Birmingham. They are not a non-violent group. They have been involved in trouble in Luton. There are connections between people who run far-right websites and we know the BNP were actively offering to find them people for both Birmingham and for [a demonstration] in Luton on August Bank Holiday".

Weyman Bennett, joint secretary of the United Against Fascism group, said: "Nobody should be taken in by the pretence that these marches and rallies are not aimed at whipping up race hatred against Muslims and Asians. They are racist demos and we should not allow them to take place."

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Peace
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 11:06 AM

The cops (?) put a limit on the number of people who could be in the 'protest' area.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: jeddy
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 06:58 AM

they are following the protest on bbc radio derby online.

only 900? i wonder how many coaches they turned away?

will look forward to hearing how it went, i wish i could have gone!! :(

take care all

jade x x x

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 11:47 PM

The police statement seems relatively sensible, but handsome is as handsome does and we will see.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: jeddy
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 05:37 PM

i was undecided whether to go or not. after reading that i think it wiser to follow progress on the news and radio. i was going to drive there at about 10.30 ish but it sounds like i would get nowhere near the place let alone find somewhere to park.

i will be with you all who are there,in heart and soul though and i will try to convince the weather to be kind to you.

take extra special care all.

jade x x x x x

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 03:13 PM

I've just found a news report about tomorrow's protest which folks may find of interest. http://www.ripleyandheanornews.co.uk/news/Police-warn-of-disruption-in.4396897.jp

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Emma B
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 08:15 AM

Edmund Burke possibly did not state
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

but he did say -

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."

and

"There is however a limit at which forbearance ceases to be a virtue."

remember
"Evil is not neutral and there can be no neutrality exercised toward it.
Anyone who is not against it is perforce in favour of it."
- Haaretz

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protest, Codnor, 15 August
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 14 Aug 09 - 07:51 AM

A reminder of who fairplay's democratic friends are lest we forget who we are talking about.
From Martin Walker's history 'The National Front - the fore-runner to the BNP before they went 'respectable'.
Jim Carroll

The most enjoyable part of the camp was the opportunity to get away from the cosmopolitanism of the cities and to live in the manner of our forefolk amidst the beauties of our own Northland, England. None will forget the comradeship round the campfire, with songs of our race and nation upon our lip and tankards of English ale in our hands.

We are the front fighters of the BNP,
True to our soil and people we will be.
Red Front and Jewry will finally fall;
Our race and nation will smash them all.

Policy statements:
Send those coloured immigrants already here back to their homelands.
Impeach the Tory Cabinet and the 1945-50 Labour Cabinet for their complicity in the black invasion and hold a trial of all those journalists who have aided and abetted them.

At the age 18, the half-caste would be given free passage to the country of its choice or he or she would be allowed to remain in Britain, enjoying all rights and privileges, including marriage, except for the fact that he or she would be legally enforced to undertake sterilization, under correct medical supervision.