BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Art Thieme
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 04:58 PM

I use it to clean the inside of catheters.   ;-)

But then, it goes bad real quick.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Charley Noble
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 05:01 PM

I wonder if this procedure would also cure psoriasis? LOL

Who needs comprehensive health insurance when we have Mudcat?

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 05:28 PM

There amy be a constant supply of it in the nursing homes and taverns....used beer may work better.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 05:32 PM

Anyone hear of Asymptomatic bacteriuria?

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: gnu
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 05:38 PM

You lye?

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 06:15 PM

There even is a piss and vinegar underwaer line:http://www.pissvinegar.com/

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 06:18 PM

Before the clean air act, we used to have thick fogs in industrial cities in the UK.
aka Pea soupers.
I leave the rest to your imagination

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Gurney
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 07:19 PM

Thank you, Rapaire, for the spelling of 'chamber lye.' I knew about it from the singing of Bob Davenport, but he pronounces it as 'shammalie' "Shammalie'll poison you, my old man...." and describes it as 'fermented urine that is used for whitening doorsteps.'

Mind where you step.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 07:23 PM

According to the "Folklore of Adams County, Illinois" washing your front steps with you urine will attract male "customers" to your "house."

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 08:10 PM

Someone mentioned that you usually contract athlete's foot in gyms and saunas? Not in my experience. I haven't been in a gym or a sauna in years, but have gotten a mild case of athlete's foot now and then on a reasonably frequent basis, so I think it's just ordinary footwear that does it.

My GP (recently retired) told me that he'd seen far more, and worse, fungal infections in people who wore trainers than those who wore more old-fashioned types of shoe. I suspect the people who claim you catch these infections from going barefoot in the gym have got it exactly wrong: people who go to the gym are likely to spend more time than others with their feet in sneakers, with their feet getting hotter and sweatier than the average.

I've been wearing sandals without socks most of the year for years, and I now get far less fungal infections than I used to when I covered my feet more. The organisms that cause tinea are ubiquitous, you can't expect to prevent exposure. But you can avoid turning your feet into a culture medium.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 08:14 PM

No time to read the whole thread-- but am I first to post about a foot up the ass curing LOTs of ills? :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 08:34 PM

Excellent point, Jack. The more exposure to air and sunlight your feet get, the less likely you will develop any athlete's foot, so wearing sandals with bare feet is a great way to go, I'm sure (although I don't do that unless I'm in the tropics).

SINSULL - I have NEVER peed in anyone else's shower while visiting them! Geez. Gimme a break.

As for in my own place, I usually use a plastic bucket, then I dump the urine out in the toilet and rinse out the bucket (and the foot...one at a time) in the bathtub. I have noticed no stains developing in the bathtub. Also...I don't do this regularly, I pretty much only do it if there seems to be a bit of athlete's foot actually getting started, in which case it stops it. I would do it regularly, but I'm just too damn lazy and disorganized and usually in a hurry or whatever...so I don't get around to it until there's a clear and definite need for it. ;-)

These fears about getting stains in your bathtub are just plain silly, because there are plenty of other ways to immerse your toes in urine. I simply used the expression "pee in the shower", because it is a quick and simple way of saying it so someone understands what I mean, and because many people would probably opt to do that anyway sometimes. (regardless of whether they were doing it for therapeutic reasons or not)

Urine is not something people need to get all squeamish about. You don't want it getting in your clothing or your carpeting, that's for sure...but getting some on your body is not any kind of problem, and it's an excellent natural antiseptic.

What I'd like to know is what exactly is in the urine that provides those antiseptic qualities. Is it ammonia? Or something else?

The other crap about "golden showers" is something I totally don't get. I understand that some people find it erotic to see someone else peeing (or even peeing ON them)???? Well, that's pretty strange, to say the least. I find it about as erotic as reading the Latvian-English dictionary backwards from the letter "T" to the letter "J". Not at all, in other words. I can't speak for Spaw, though. I bet it drives him wild... ;-) I mean, hell, the man consorts with Weimaraners! That tells you a lot. Dogs will happily pee on anything.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 08:41 PM

Susan... is the foot up the ass meant to cure ills in...

The kicker?

Or the kickee?

And do you have any testimonials to that effect from either group? ;-) And do both groups agree on the efficacy of that method?

I think my idea is better. It does not require help or participation from another person.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Rapparee
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 09:49 PM

JUST for Little Hawk:

Urine is the fluid excreted by the kidneys. It consists of water, carrying in solution the body's waste products such as urea, uric acid, creatinine, organic acids, and also other solutes such as Na+, K+, Ca2+, Mg2+, Cl-, the body fluid concentrations of which are regulated by the kidneys.

After being produced by the kidneys, urine passes along the ureters to be stored in the bladder, until it is allowed to flow out of the body through the urethra, in the process of micturition (urination). The smooth muscle of the bladder forms an internal sphincter at its junction with the urethra, and further along the urethra is the voluntary-control external sphincter. The bladder begins to contract (micturition reflex), and produces the desire to urinate, when its volume exceeds about 200 ml. However, if we do not relax the external sphincter, the contractions subside, but return with increasing force and frequency as the bladder continues to fill. When the bladder volume is about 500 ml the micturition reflex may force open the internal sphincter and lead to a reflex relaxation of the external sphincter, so that urination occurs involuntarily.

Voluntary urination involves relaxation of the external sphincter and tensing of the abdominal muscles to increase abdominal pressure and compress the bladder, to initiate bladder contraction and relaxation of the internal sphincter.

Most people excrete about 1.5 litres of urine per day, but the volume can range (in healthy adults) from 400 ml up to about 25 litres, depending on fluid intake. In renal failure, there may be no urine production, and in the rare condition of untreated diabetes insipidus, the urine volume is consistently 25 litres/day. Urine is termed 'dilute' if its solute concentration (osmolality) is lower than that of the blood plasma, and 'concentrated' if its solute concentration is greater than that of the plasma.

Humans who are maximally conserving water — when their kidneys are reabsorbing as much as possible — can produce urine with a solute concentration (osmolality) about five times that of blood plasma. Many other animals can conserve water much more effectively. For example, cats, dogs, and rats can produce urine of ten times the plasma osmolality, and gerbils twenty times!

When voided, urine is normally sterile and clear, although it has a yellow colour due to the presence of pigments. However, small amounts of particulate matter such as epithelial cells and lipids may be present; these are 'casts'. Protein is not normally filtered from the blood plasma by the kidneys, so protein in the urine — proteinuria — is generally indicative of damage to the glomeruli, at the blind inner ends of the kidney tubules, where filtration occurs. The urine may also appear to contain blood (haematuria). This may be due to haemolysis in the bloodstream (breakdown of red cells) so that some haemoglobin is released from them and excreted, or it may be due to the presence of whole red cells, as a result of bleeding in the kidneys or urinary tract.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 10:05 PM

This guy makes a good case:
http://www.s

Another question, can dog pee hurt your grass. Some say it actually adds flavour when you dry and smoke it:)

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 10:06 PM

Oops, here it si
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2700/can-urinating-on-your-feet-in-the-shower-cure-athletes-foot

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Gurney
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 10:26 PM

"The most reputable proponent is Madonna, followed by some serious flakes...."

So, where does that place LH?

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Dec 09 - 11:16 PM

Heh! ;-) Yeah...uh huh...

Just try it on a case of athlete's foot. See what happens. Then give me your informed opinion, rather than just regurgitating something convenient from some "authoritative source" that you looked up out there that fits whatever you already wish to believe anyway.

And besides, if you don't want to do it yourself...(shrug)...so what? Why should I care? I was simply talking about something here that I have come across that seems interesting and worthwhile to me.

If you do that on the Internet...if you talk about anything at all on the Internet from any perspective at all, someone else always attacks it. Several people usually do. No matter what it is. And you can waste much time arguing with them about it and responding to their attacks.

I just wasted maybe 60 seconds doing that by typing this post. I don't plan to waste a whole lot more after I hit the "submit" button.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: frogprince
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 12:22 AM

Piss on it, I have to get to bed.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 12:36 AM

Snow flakes are actually yellow....not white....a reflection of the sun...our eyes ignore the yellow hues, and we see it as white.

Yellow snow....ummmm

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 12:44 AM

Not wanting to piss anyone off, but here is everything on urine and medecine:
http://www.universal-tao.com/article/urine_therapy.html

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 12:47 AM

There is a global urine community out there, a real piss up it is:
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine.htm

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Gurney
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 01:25 AM

I believe it is also a remedy to wash out the eyes when you have been tagged by a Spitting Cobra.

Fortunately there are no snakes here.

Funny, the stuff you find in your head when a train of thought starts.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Bert
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 01:59 AM

LH, your pee would kill anything, It's a wonder that they haven't started using it against the Zebra mussels and the oriental carp.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 08:50 AM

Ha! ;-D Excellent point, Bert. Perhaps I should consider bottling it and marketing it. I need another good source of income.

I never knew Madonna had any opinion about this until a few days ago when I watched a video of her on the Letterman show in 1994 (hilarious interview it was...). That was what made me think of posting about it. But I have known about the actual practice since some time in the mid-80's which was when I first heard about it and gave it a try. I told my Dad about it, because he had endless problems with athete's foot, and he tried it out and found that it cured the problem. Good enough for me and good enough for him. I don't give a good goddamn about the opinions of people who haven't actually tried it, and I don't care if they have their wall papered with presitigious medical certificates either.

Experience weighs heavier than idle opinionating.

Ed, that Taoist site has some interesting info on it. I know about some of the Asian practices regarding urine therapy...but I figured that the mainly North American and UK audience here can only take so much outside their normal comfort zone, so I didn't bother talking about that. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 11:04 AM

I don't know what it is exactly in the urine that does the trick,
probably uric acid. It wouldn't work on Thrush - that relies on the acidity of urine to thrive. But daily yoghurt in your diet might keeps thrush from the er, um, door. By and large.

Has no-one done the silent "P" joke yet?

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 11:26 AM

Someone mentioned dog pee

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: frogprince
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 03:16 PM

Thanks so much, John; I had been wondering, ceaselessly and obsessively, about that for years, but I guess I couldn't get the right combination of technical terms together to search online for the information.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 04:48 PM

It's amazing how many people want to know about that, isn't it? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Monique
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 05:57 PM

I'd say it's something basic, not acid that gets rid of them. They don't like when you add a couple of teaspoonfuls of baking soda in a footbath either.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 06:43 PM

I know....It needs work, but....here's a start...had John Prine's Blue Umbrella sound in mind::


    Oh, Madonna
    You don't have to tell us any more
    The yellow stuff
    Snuffs out footy fungi
    Now. we know what number one is really for

    Urine is strange
    Depending on how you use it
    I had no notion
    We'd be using it for that

    Now, it works the best,
    While soaking in the shower
    Now be careful
    Or, you'll spill it on the floor

    At pee time
    I wonder why you left me
    At soak time
    I wonder what I did
    Since I mostly soak in the shower
    Get lost, was the only thing you said.
   
    A pee bottle
    Has now replaced my Ketchup
    With a special place
    On the old fridgy door
   
    Good News!
    No need to shop at the drugstore any more

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Genie
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 07:57 PM

Gurney, I've heard that peeing on a wound from some jellyfish and other venomous sea creatures can also neutralize the poison.

And urine, diluted about 10 parts water to 1, makes an excellent plant fertilizer (e.g., for tomatoes).

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Genie
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 08:01 PM

Love the lyric poetry, folks! : D

Nobody answered Tanglewood's question, so here goes:
angledwood So peeing in the swimming pool isn't a bad thing.

See, Tangled, nobody said "pee in the bathtub."
Pool peeing: bad
Small pond peeing: bad
Waterfall peeing: just fine
Ocean peeing: unless you're on a crowded beach, no problem - but probably won't cure your athlete's foot either




As for peeing in your shower, if you soap up and rinse off well afterwards, I don't see how it would leave your shower stall any smellier than a normal shower would. You're washing dirt, bacteria, sweat, etc., off onto your shower's insides even when you don't pee.   That's why people do clean their showers from time to time between uses, right? Your urine is probably more sterile than a lot of the other stuff you wash off your body in the shower.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Art Thieme
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 08:31 PM

I once posted about a friend whose cat took a shit on his pizza. Not seeing the act, he ate the pizza. The next day his MS, spontaneously, on it's own, receded some---as MS symptoms sometimes do for the lucky ones.

His little brother had seen the cat do it's stuff on the pizza---and only told his big brother about it, mid guffaws of pre-pubescent mirth, after the fact of it.

Knowing how folks with MS, ME included, search far and wide for alternative medicine cures for their malady, I quite easily extrapolated, in my mind, the fellow going on Oprah's show and telling the world about the Cat Shit Pizza Cure For MS. Pizza Hut puts it on the menu touting it as a "miracle in a pan"---extra cheese $1.00 more.

Is this dynamic playing out right before our very eyes in this thread?

What think you, people!?

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 09:55 PM

Confessions:

"I pissed in the shower before it was cool" unknown

"From now on I'll piss in the sink, just to stay one step ahead of everyone else"unknown

"I just piss off of my deck" unknown

"I piss off the front porch at night, only problem is the grass grows faster in that spot" unknown

"I once pissed in a plant at a hotel party" unknown

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 09:59 PM

Hell, he may have been doing them a health favour?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14909843/

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Gurney
Date: 16 Dec 09 - 10:14 PM

According to the film 'The Fastest Indian,' pee is a great fertiliser for citrus trees. Bert Munroe said it, how can it be wrong!

One of our cats used to pee in a particular spot regularly. The result was a bare spot in the lawn, surrounded by lush, overfertilised grass. Very obvious.
So maybe you should pee in your plantation.....
Unless you don't want it to be obvious?

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Dec 09 - 12:26 AM

Har! Har! Some great stuff here... ;-D

Art, NO ONE can possibly fail to notice that a cat has "shat" on his piece of pizza! Good lord. I mean, there's hardly anthing else on Earth that stinks as badly as cat shit does, so there's just NO way! I think you're telling tall tales. ;-)

Anyway, I suggest you test out the theory by eating a piece of pizza with cat shit on it, and...oh wait...do you have MS? You can't test the theory unless you do, I guess. So you'd have to find someone with MS and get THEM to test out your theory.

Keep in mind that I HAVE tested out the urine on the feet theory and found it to work. Therefore, I am one up on you for confirming theories through personal testing... ;-) I will not swallow (glurk!) your theory about the cat shit causing MS symptoms to abate until you have self-tested it and stood by what you say! (grin)

****

Ed - Chongo has investigated your list of anonymous confessions, and found out who made them. As follows:

Confessions:

"I pissed in the shower before it was cool" - George W. Bush AND Shane McBride

"From now on I'll piss in the sink, just to stay one step ahead of everyone else" - Shane McBride

"I just piss off of my deck" - Don McBride AND Shane McBride

"I piss off the front porch at night, only problem is the grass grows faster in that spot" - Me! It's true. I did this off and on one summer and the grass DID grow faster in that spot. Keep in mind that it was at night, and no one lives on the other side of that street anyway nor can our neighbours to either side see that area at night, so it's quite a private spot.

"I once pissed in a plant at a hotel party" - Princess Diana! God knows how she managed it, but that's what Chongo says, and I believe him.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 17 Dec 09 - 07:15 AM

An important element of proving something in science is the control. I suggest a reliable experiment could involve one fungus foot soaked in urinr, the other not, (or painted with cat shit....or a reasonable replacement). But, maybe I am confused....did someone suggest cat scat worked also?

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 17 Dec 09 - 07:59 AM

After making the last urine typo, I put urinr in a Google search....it is forgiving....but I came up with this odd question:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_with_urinr_last_in_the_fridge_before_the_labortory_can_tel_lCan_i_use_really_old_urine_to_pas

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 17 Dec 09 - 08:02 AM

And the submitted answer to the urinr question was:
I would obtain new urine after a while. Make sure it is the right temperature when you give it or they will know it isn't yours and make you wait (maybe drink some water) until you are able to give them another sample (usually within the hour, if possible). They usually won't let you leave and come back or you will be considered dirty.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Art Thieme
Date: 17 Dec 09 - 06:29 PM

Well I do have MS. Yep, it is a truism.

And I did try the pizza. (It didn't work!! -- That's where my music went though -- right into the cat box with my fine-motor-response. The Ms is as bad as when my friend used bee venom sting therapy to try to cure her MS. (That didn't work either!!)

So----Google MS and Bee Venom Sting Therapy---and voila---there it will all be clear as a bell for ya. It will come up on your screen like a massive hairball of info.

Good luck,

Art

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Dec 09 - 07:03 PM

You serious??? Yikes! I think I'd almost rather have the MS. I hate getting stung by bees.

Mind you, it would be short term pain for long term gain...so...maybe...but I still get quite twitchy thinking about it.

Have you heard the theory about ingesting elephant toenails to cure sleep apnea? Only problem is, the toenails have to be on a living elephant at the time. Dead toenails won't do, because they lack the necessary chi. The only way you can really do it is to convince an elephant to place his foot directly in your mouth. This is best done by lying prone on your back with your mouth open, and the elephant then walks over and steps on your head. NO ONE who has done this has had any more trouble afterward with sleep apnea. I guaran-dam-tee it. ;-)

And it cures a host of other medical problems too...that's why it's called "The Final Solution" in sub-Saharan Africa.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 05:48 AM

Years ago - when there were people who had and had used, at some time in their life, a: Po, Guzzunder, Gerry etc, I heard a person relate that an old wives tale had them put their feet in the urine as a cure for chilblanes. And the woman said she didn't like doing it. The efficacy was not stated.
But as a preventative treatment - would you allow yourself to get chilblanes? Knowing that in the morning .................

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 06:48 AM

Let's not forget that urine emissions could be used in hydrogen-electricity production energy emissions from pee emissions:

http://www.energyboom.com/emerging/natural-emissions-new-technology-produces-hydrogen-urine

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Rog Peek
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 10:50 AM

I've just had a kidney stone experience, can we stop all this talk of urine please.

Rog

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Genie
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 05:46 PM

Yes, Ed, you do need that experimental control.   Gotta control for that "piss placebo effect."

And, Art, if I hadda choose I'm much rather drink piss than eat shit. I'm just funny that way.)

Genie   ; D

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Genie
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 05:48 PM

Hawk, I love your elephant toenail cure instructions. *g*

Only thing is, "lyring prone on your back" is an OXYMORON!

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: Ed T
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 06:29 PM

I feel science has proven that Q Ray braclets have no basis in science that they can do anything. Given that, I have no problem with them being sold and used, since if you believe in them they may do some good. If someone says that thay cured them of a minor ailment (like athletes foot) and it does, then great. If they say it might ,and it does not, I still have no problem with it being promoted and sold for minor ailments. And, I accept that there is a vast expanse of potential cures that science knows little about.

As for alternative treatments (aka urine) , if it cures minor ailments, or your belief in using it does (for whatever minor ailment) , it's a good thing.

However, I feel a greater level of scientific scrutiny is warranted for cures for major ailments....especially those that kill, and scientifically scrutinized treatments are available. ...and rejected because oof unscientific claims.

Subject: RE: BS: Urine kills athlete's foot fungus.
From: gnu
Date: 18 Dec 09 - 06:46 PM

My bro got one of those healing bracelets about 8 months before he died.