Subject: BS: Your favourite western film From: alanabit Date: 09 May 10 - 09:04 AM I have just been listening to Seamus Kennedy's "Sidekicks and Sagebrush" and I particularly like "Big Iron", which is an account of a classic western gunfight. From the recent "Saturday Morning Matinee" thread (among others) I know that I am not the only fan of westerns here. What is your favourite western - and why? |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: kendall Date: 09 May 10 - 09:21 AM A tossup between High Noon and Lonesome Dove. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Ed T Date: 09 May 10 - 09:32 AM One Eyed Jacks http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055257/ The Mercenary http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062863/ Gunfight at the O.K. Corral http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050468/ |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: bankley Date: 09 May 10 - 09:37 AM 'Unforgiven' 'Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid' 'The Last Rites of Ransom Pride' a new one |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST, hi lo Date: 09 May 10 - 10:08 AM once Upon A Time In The West |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Stu Date: 09 May 10 - 10:35 AM I know it's not a film, but Deadwood was brilliant. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Midchuck Date: 09 May 10 - 10:45 AM The Outlaw Josey Wales As to second place, I'd go with Kendall's suggestions - a tossup. Also agree with Sugarfoot Jack, 'tho I think they kind of ran out of ideas in the third season. Peter |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Ed T Date: 09 May 10 - 10:53 AM Oops, wrong link meant The Mercenary - (1968) by Sergio Corbucci, not the Mercernaries...which was also a good movie. Also, the Good the Bad and the Ugly and Once Upon a Time in the West |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,number 6 Date: 09 May 10 - 10:54 AM the Searchers. biLL |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 09 May 10 - 10:56 AM It's hard to pick an absolute favorite, but if I did.... "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly" would be the one. Some others that I'd rate very high: Hang 'Em High Red River The Big Country The Magnificent Seven Son of the Morning Star (was a 2 part TV movie) For a Fistful of Dollars For a Few Dollars More Unforgiven The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford Dances With Wolves (Slightly different category? But I love it.) Geronimo The Alamo (the recent one) Lonesome Dove |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Beer Date: 09 May 10 - 11:16 AM Cat Ballou (sp.) Beer (adrien) |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Tug the Cox Date: 09 May 10 - 11:47 AM Still love it when the Magnificent Seven occasionally looms into view. Butch cassidy and the Sundance kid was prety good as well. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 09 May 10 - 11:50 AM Oh yeah! I'd forgotten about that one. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: greg stephens Date: 09 May 10 - 12:55 PM The Magnificent Seven has stood the test of time pretty well. Also Stagecoach. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: mousethief Date: 09 May 10 - 01:16 PM Serenity. Or does that count? :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Rapparee Date: 09 May 10 - 01:20 PM Cat Ballou (for Lee Marvin's acting) McClintock All of John Wayne's "Rooster Cogburn" flicks I understand "The Shootist" is excellent. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,Doc John Date: 09 May 10 - 01:24 PM Unforgiven Once Upon A Time In The West High Noon The Good, The Bad & the Ugly Lonesome Dove The Great Silence The best portral of Doc Holliday imho is by Dennis Quaid in 'Wyat Earp' Is there such a thing as an 'Eastern'? Then it must be The Proposition |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: open mike Date: 09 May 10 - 01:26 PM The U.S.Post Office has issued a commemorative stamp of singing cowboys of the silver screen....it came out last month (April 2010) and there are still stamps available....you might ask your local P.O. or delivery person or you can get them online for a $1 charge. See: http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/2009/pr09_118.htm#cowboys |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: alanabit Date: 09 May 10 - 01:28 PM There are loads of my favourites here. I am surprised that "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" has not been mentioned. That is one of the most complex and subtle westerns - but still very distinctively a western - that I have ever seen. I don't know "Lonesome Dove" Kendall. Can you tell me a bit about it? |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: open mike Date: 09 May 10 - 01:34 PM many of us re-live those cowboy days and keep the cowboy tradition alive thru music and poetry of today's cowboys....at festivals. some of the best ones i know of are: www.montereycowboy.org/ (in Calif. in Dec.) http://www.westernfolklife.org/ (in Elko, Nev. in Jan.) there is a list of these events & festivals here www.cowboypoetry.com |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 09 May 10 - 01:37 PM There are so many- Stagecoach The spaghetti and other westerns, which influenced the Japanese samurai films. And not strictly a western but similar themes- Treasure of the Sierra Madre. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 09 May 10 - 02:00 PM Lonesome Dove was orginally a superb western adventure/tragedy novel written by Larry McMurtry. Like some of his other books, it was eventually made into a film. It was released as a lengthy TV movie in 2 or more parts, and was quite faithful to the book. The book is great, although it ultimately becomes quite depressing, like most of McMurtry's tales seem to. His protagonists always come to a miserable end of some kind after you've invested several hundred pages in getting to know them very well. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Wesley S Date: 09 May 10 - 02:20 PM Yes - "Lonesome Dove" is a favorite of mine too. It shouldn't be missed. Possibly the best western ever filmed.Luckly it's been rereleased in a widescreen version about a year ago. I also loved The Magnificent Seven { aka The Seven Samuri } and Gunfight at OK Corral. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,Doc John Date: 09 May 10 - 02:34 PM There are two prequels to Lonesome Dove: Deadman's Walk and Comache Moon. And two sequels: Return to Lonesome Dove - although as that was not written by Larry McMurtry some say it doesn't count - and Streets of Laredo. Different actors play Gus and Woodrow in this series. Also they were not written in sequential order. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: bobad Date: 09 May 10 - 02:49 PM Dead Man, El Topo |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: frogprince Date: 09 May 10 - 02:49 PM The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance Lonesome Dove |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 09 May 10 - 03:13 PM One not yet made Billy the Kid and Governor Lew Wallace. A great story, neither man so far presented accurately. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 09 May 10 - 03:15 PM Carry on Cowboy ? |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 09 May 10 - 03:19 PM Sorry, McGrath, not the western brand of humor. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,David E. Date: 09 May 10 - 04:15 PM Lonesome Dove Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Rio Lobo (And a special thank you to everyone for not saying Little Big Man.) David E. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Midchuck Date: 09 May 10 - 04:18 PM Serenity. Or does that count? :-) Of course it (along with the preceding tv series, Firefly) counts! When did a few spaceships and zap guns keep a good western from being a western? Reminds me of my intro when we sing "Brisbane Ladies:" "Here's a cowboy song. All the best cowboy songs come from the soutwest, and this is a good one, because it comes from about as far southwest as you can get..." Peter. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: HuwG Date: 09 May 10 - 04:22 PM The Long Riders; has to have the best soundtrack. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: jacqui.c Date: 09 May 10 - 04:39 PM High Noon Lonesome Dove How The West Was Won Magnificent Seven The Alamo - latest version, although the original had good theme music |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Alice Date: 09 May 10 - 06:11 PM I don't really care for western movies, but I do enjoy Blazing Saddles and Ruggles of Red Gap. Alice in Montana |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,999 Date: 09 May 10 - 06:20 PM Hombre |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: John MacKenzie Date: 09 May 10 - 06:24 PM Texas Across the River |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Fergie Date: 09 May 10 - 07:06 PM The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. For me it had everything BLONDDIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...................... |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Don Firth Date: 09 May 10 - 07:31 PM The Big Country. It has everything. Every cliché that was ever in any Western movie is in this movie. Two ranchers in an on-and-off dispute over water rights. A fist fight between the misfit newcomer, a former sea captain (Gregory Peck) and the ranch foreman (Charleton Heston) over the rich rancher's lovely, spoiled daughter (Carol Bakker). A pretty schoolmarm (Jean Simmons), who just happens to own a piece of land that both the rich rancher and the poor rancher (Burl Ives) want. The disputed water source runs through her property. A face to face shoot-out between Peck and Ives's lecherous, ne'er-do-well son (Chuck Connors), but not like any "fast-draw" shoot-out that you've ever seen in any Western. The range war between the two ranchers soon turns into a real shooting war—and it, too, ends in an unpredictable way. Stock Western characters. But each one is a bit skewed, and play beautifully by very good actors. And it was this role (not "Big Daddy" in "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof," as everyone seems to think) that earned the Best Supporting Actor Oscar for Burl Ives. He was absolutely brilliant in this role. Gotta see it!! Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Rapparee Date: 09 May 10 - 08:57 PM You got it, Alice. Blazing Saddles. I was just going to add that one. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Beer Date: 09 May 10 - 09:04 PM Especially the camp fire scene. Great movie Alice/Rapaire Ad. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Ed T Date: 09 May 10 - 09:18 PM Well, if it's comedy movies, how about the life and times of Judge Roy Bean? Whorehouse Lucky Jim: You call that justice? Judge Roy Bean: Justice is the handmaiden of law. Nick the Grub: You said law was the handmaiden of justice. Judge Roy Bean: Works both ways. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: ichMael Date: 09 May 10 - 09:20 PM The Westerner, Wm. Wyler. With Gary Cooper and Walter Brennan. The Wild Bunch, Sam Peckinpah. The Ox-Bow Incident, Wm. Wellman. Henry Fonda was hard to top in westerns. Rio Grande, John Ford. Sons of the Pioneers do a lot of singing in that one. A Bruce Willis movie called Last Man Standing is kind of a western. Takeoff on A Fistful of Dollars, which was a takeoff on Yojimbo. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Beer Date: 09 May 10 - 09:35 PM Maybe it was taken off the song by Bruce Murdoch "Last Man Standing". Just kiddin of course. Ad. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: katlaughing Date: 09 May 10 - 09:55 PM I was wondering when someone would mention The Oxbow Incident. It is way up there on my list. Also, though not as high, no one has said Shane, yet, have they? Legends of the Fall and Dances With Wolves....I know, I know, maybe not strictly Westerns, but still damn good, imo, esp. Legends AND the music! |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Riginslinger Date: 09 May 10 - 10:03 PM I thought I'd nominated "SHANE" a while back, but I don't see it now. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Rapparee Date: 09 May 10 - 10:56 PM The Cheyenne Social Club. Henry Fonda and Jimmy Stewart, and funny as heck. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Beer Date: 09 May 10 - 11:19 PM Now there is one I completely forgot about. Great great movie thanks Rap. By the way if anyone wants to view any of these great flicks or any other you have been thinking about, here is a site that you can have an enjoyable evening with. Type in the title in the search bar then figure it out from then on. I have been watching some great past memories and new ones as well. Ad. http://www.movies-links.tv/ |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Stilly River Sage Date: 09 May 10 - 11:28 PM Electric Horseman Cat Ballou Heartland and one that I haven't seen in years, but always loved, was Westward the Women And, along with Cat Ballou, on a politically incorrect note, there is always the rather funny Hallelujah Trail. SRS |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Beer Date: 09 May 10 - 11:37 PM Was there ever a movie made about "Sacajawea"? ad. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: mrdux Date: 10 May 10 - 02:33 AM John Ford's cavalry trilogy -- Fort Apache, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon and Rio Grande -- and My Darling Clementine should be mentioned. Red River, Ride the High Country (an early Peckinpah film with Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea), Destry Rides Again (James Stewart and Marlene Dietrich) and Winchester 73 are other favorites. michael |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: alanabit Date: 10 May 10 - 08:01 AM I can watch anything with James Stewart. Doesn't anybody else rate "Broken Arrow"? "Destry Rides Again" is smashing entertainment. My favourite spoof western will always be "Support Your Local Sheriff", with James Garner's unsurpassably laconic sheriff. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Dave the Gnome Date: 10 May 10 - 08:28 AM alanabit - You just beat me too it! I was going to suggest support your local sheriff too! Must have been mentioned above - one with the drunken sheriff having to sober up to fight the bad guys. Which is that? Or is there a few similar ones? I'd also go for the Eastwood spagetti westerns, High Noon and OK Corall. Cheers DeG |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: artbrooks Date: 10 May 10 - 08:40 AM McClintock (talk about having all of the cliches!) and just about anything from a Louis L'Amour book. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,CrazyEddie Date: 10 May 10 - 08:41 AM I can't believe that no-one has mentioned "Soldier Blue" Not exactly your typical westeern I admit, but a bit of an eye-opener for a lot of people when it was first released. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Tug the Cox Date: 10 May 10 - 08:55 AM Try this clip http://oldfortyfives.com/thoseoldwesterns.htm |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Rapparee Date: 10 May 10 - 10:04 AM How about 1903's smash hit "The Great Train Robbery", directed and photographed by Edwin S. Porter - a former Thomas Edison cameraman? It was the first of the narrative films and ends with a perfectly gratuitous scene of a bandit firing a revolver right at the audience. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 10 May 10 - 11:44 AM This thread has got me wondering what might be the worst western ever made? I realize it would be tough to pick a winner. There's a lot of competition for the spot. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,Neil D Date: 10 May 10 - 11:49 AM I agree with many already listed, especially the more light-hearted films like "Support Your Local Sheriff", "Cat Ballou" and "Cheyenne Social Club" (Stewart and Fonda play off each other brilliantly). I recently saw "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" and was quite impressed with Casey Affleck. I also agree with "One-eyed Jacks", "Hombre" and "The Oxbow Incident". And I don't know why David E disparages "Little Big Man". I liked it. Here's some that haven't been mentioned: "Missouri Breaks" with Nicholson and a totally outrageous performance by Brando; an earlier version of the life of Roy Bean called "The Westerner" starring Walter Brennan and Gary cooper; I have to admit to liking Michael Cimino's notorious "Heaven's Gate", the movie that brought down a studio with it's directorial excesses and poor reception by the public. Rated as the 6th worst movie of all time I still like it. Maybe because it's based in the true story of the Johnson County War between powerful cattlemen and homesteaders, the archetype of a story repeated time and again in movies and literature and real life, class struggle in the old west. But lastly I have to mention "McCabe and Mrs. Miller" starring Warren Beatty and Julie Christie. It's a fine movie with personal significance because it introduced me to the music of Leonard Cohen. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 10 May 10 - 12:02 PM Heaven's Gate had possibilities...but they somehow just paced it all wrong, and it became sort of interminable. I always enjoy seeing Christopher Walken, though, no matter what movie he's in. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Beer Date: 10 May 10 - 12:50 PM Crazy Eddie, thanks for bring up Solider Blue. I was thinking of this one but could not remember the title. What a powerful movie. It had such a peaceful and loving start but what a shocker that hits you from nowhere. Ad. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 10 May 10 - 12:56 PM The worst western ever made, by the way, might have been the one where William Shatner played BOTH male leads! He played 2 identical twin brothers in the Wild West. One had been raised by the Indians and had grown up to be a white Indian warrior. The other had been raised by white folks and had grown up to be a gunfighter. They looked identical...even their haircuts were the same, and the "Indian" one didn't even seem to have a tan...but the "Indian" Shatner wore a headband and a loincloth and mocassins so you could tell them apart, while the white Shatner wore regular cowboy gear. The two finally faced off against each other in a duel to the death on the streets of some empty ghost town. You simply have to see every minute of this film for yourself to understand how truly...umm...extraordinary it is. One of a kind. No words I could write could fully convey its unique qualities. The sheer brilliance of managing to film 2 William Shatners fighting each other to the death without resorting to any CGI effects tells you just how great an accomplishment this movie was for its time. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: alanabit Date: 10 May 10 - 02:09 PM Little Hawk, I worry about you sometimes. Not even Spaw could imagine a film quite as gruesome as that! |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 10 May 10 - 02:20 PM Hey, man, I am not joking. It's a real movie. It was filmed in English, but I think it was produced by some German movie company for the European market. They must have figured they'd hit gold when they hired Shatner for the starring role. It sure never got seen much in North America. I have seen clips from it on Youtube, and that's the only place I ever heard about it, but I can't recall the name of it. A Youtube search for "William Shatner + western" might turn something up. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Lighter Date: 10 May 10 - 02:21 PM Bad Company (1972). The Culpepper Cattle Co. (1972). McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971). She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949). The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976). High Noon (1952). Ride the High Country (1962). Will Penny (1968). True Grit (1969). The Fastest Gun Alive (1956). The Alamo (2004) with Billy Bob Thornton is great, but I don't think of it as a "Western." |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 10 May 10 - 02:25 PM "The Alamo" is a Southwestern. ;-) It's one of my favorites too. Billy Bob Thornton plays Davy Crockett like no one ever did before...couldn't be better. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: alanabit Date: 10 May 10 - 02:39 PM Little Hawk was serious! |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Don Firth Date: 10 May 10 - 03:07 PM That looks like a real (reel?) doozy! But-- I can't remember the name of the worst Western ever made, but I saw it—at least a chunk of it—actually, too large a chunk of it—sometime back in the early 1940s. The scene is the neighborhood theater near where I lived back then. I was in my very early 'teens at the time. Saturday afternoon matinee, double-feature, complete with "Prevues of Coming Attractions," newsreel, cartoon, and an episode of a fifteen chapter serial (such as "The Perils of Nyoka," "The Mysterious Dr. Satan," a somewhat pot-bellied "Batman," "Don Winslow of the Navy vs. The Scorpion"—Great Stuff!!), and my sisters and I used to go every week. [Great for our parents. It got us out of the house for a few hours, and it only cost 25¢ apiece. Cheaper than baby-sitting.] Anyway, my little sister, Pat, was off doing something else that afternoon, so my older sister (by two years), Mary, and I went. Don't remember what the first movie was, but the second was a Western. It was like every really bad Western we had ever seen, as if it had been pieced together with clips from a whole bunch of other bad Westerns. Then, there was a chase scene, in which the cameras kept switching back and forth between the bank robbers galloping to beat hell, followed by the sheriff's posse galloping to beat hell after them. It went on . . . and on . . . and on . . . and on. . . . The robbers . . . the posse . . . the robbers . . . the posse . . . the robbers. . . . I checked my wrist watch, which had "glow in the dark" hands and numbers. The chase had been going on for at least fifteen minutes, which is an eternity in movie time. You could hear bored sighs from all over the theater. And the audience was composed of kids like us, whose aesthetic and dramatic tolerances are generally very open and flexibile, and able to absorb incredible amounts of pure crap, just for an opportunity to watch a good punch-out, shoot-out, or chase scene. But this had gone on so long that, by now, the entire audience had lost interest. Eye-rolling time! My sister said, "This is stupid! Let's get out of here!" "But we haven't seen the next chapter of 'The Scarlet Avenger' yet!" "C'mon. I have an idea." The theater manager, who generally hung out in the lobby, was a nice lady, and since we were regulars, she knew us pretty well. So Mary said to her, "This movie is really boring! Could we leave now, and come back in time to see the serial without having to pay again?" As I say, she was a nice lady and we were reasonably well-behaved regulars, so she said, "Sure. But be sure to be back before 5:15, because that's when it's scheduled." And she scribbled us a quick note to give to the fellow taking tickets at the door. So we went to the drug store (complete with soda fountain) next door, had milk shakes, and returned in time for the next episode of "The Scarlet Avenger." Relative to Westerns in general, this movie—whose name I have undoubtedly repressed—was not quite up to the cinematic standards set by such classic films as science fiction's ""Plan 9 from Outer Space," said by some to be the worst movie ever made. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 10 May 10 - 03:50 PM An endless chase scene, eh? Sort of like Bob Dylan's famous "never-ending tour"? |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,robomatic Date: 10 May 10 - 03:53 PM Red River The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence The Wild Bunch |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 10 May 10 - 03:57 PM Isn't it amazing how they managed to shoot those scenes in "White Comanche" and convince you totally that there were two separate Shatners fighting each other? That is high class cinematography at its ultimate, let me tell you. I bet they spent a fortune on it. It's strange that it didn't reach the attention of the people who award the Oscars, but they seldom have much time for European "art" films. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 10 May 10 - 10:40 PM Art film ???? Someone mentioned Little Big Man- hard to beat for worst western. They never had much of a plot (if any) but some of the old singing horse operas weren't too bad. Sitting with the gang, making comments and being told to shush or get out. A gal always showed up and smiled at the guy singing to her. He would part from her, and tears would come to her eyes. Then he would ride off and we would cheer. Coyote howls, rude noises if the cowboy sang to the gal- no one ever heard all of the song. Now they don't make westerns like that any more...... |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: artbrooks Date: 11 May 10 - 12:22 AM John Wayne made a few singing cowboy flicks...all seriously unmemorable. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: LadyJean Date: 11 May 10 - 12:49 AM I enjoy John Ford's cavalry movies, also the original "Stagecoach" with John Carradine among the passengers, and "Liberty Valence". "Two Mules for Sister Sarah" is fun. I only saw the opening scene of "The Terror of Tiny Town", the western made with a cast of little people. It was impressively bad. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Lonesome EJ Date: 11 May 10 - 01:37 AM Little Bigman...and if you felt it was intended as historic realism, you missed the point The Big Country Ulzana's Raid (the absolute best depiction of war between the US Cavalry and the Apache) The Hi-lo Country Missouri Breaks(Brando's looney regulator versus Nicholson's likeable rustler) Lonesome Dove One-eyed Jacks Brokeback Mountain Lonely are the Brave Shane Dances w Wolves |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: IanC Date: 11 May 10 - 05:00 AM I think I really like John Wayne's "Angel And The Badman" best. It's so funny, and it's full of Quakers. :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: IanC Date: 11 May 10 - 05:01 AM Missing out John Wayne, it'd have to be "The Life & Times OF Judge Roy Bean". |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Georgiansilver Date: 11 May 10 - 05:33 AM Gotta be "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" for me... it has everything in it..... you son of a BAAAYAAAAYYAAAAAAA |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: bubblyrat Date: 11 May 10 - 07:00 AM The Kevin Costner version of "Wyatt Earp". Best title music ?? By Bernstein, for "The Scalphunters" ( Burt Lancaster). "Valdez is Coming ".........I guess it qualifies as a "Western" ?? ...... and "Cato's Land", of course !! |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 11 May 10 - 08:31 AM I'm surprised it too so long for anyone to mention "Destry Rides Again" - Dietrich even had the same songwriter as in "Blue Angel". |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: ranger1 Date: 11 May 10 - 09:31 AM First the classics: Shane True Grit The Magnificent Seven Now the Spaghetti Westerns: A Fistful of Dollars High Plains Drifter Hang 'em High (OK, so I'm a HUGE Clint Eastwood fan) And the more modern ones: Lonesome Dove Appaloosa Dances With Wolves |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Rapparee Date: 11 May 10 - 09:45 AM The real Little Big Man shared responsibility for the killing of Tȟašúŋke Witkó at Ft. Robinson; there is some thought that he may have killed him. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Stilly River Sage Date: 11 May 10 - 11:20 AM I meant to include Hud in my list. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 11 May 10 - 11:42 AM Hud was a modern western. I think it's Paul Newman's finest film. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,John on the Sunset Coast Date: 11 May 10 - 11:51 AM My top 5, pretty much in order: The Searchers Warlock Ride the High Country My Darling Clementine Fort Apache JotSC |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 11 May 10 - 12:06 PM Jill of the San Francisco Coasters? |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: alanabit Date: 11 May 10 - 03:08 PM Has anyone mentioned "The Shootist" yet? That was one of the best I have ever seen. Lauren Bacall gave an excellent perfornmance and both John Wayne and James Stewart were in cracking form. It had the theme of a gunfighter, who had outlived his time and had to face death with dignity. It may have been John Wayne's best ever film. Someone mentioned "Destry Rides Again" earlier, which is another of my favourites. Marlene Dietrich's punch up as "Frenchie" at the end is one of my favourite western scenes. Two oddball westerns of the early seventies, both of which I enjoyed, were "Hannie Caulder" starring Raquel Welsh as a raped widow turned gunfighter seeking revenge and the comedy "The Legend of Frenchie King", with the unlikely leading roles for Brigitte Bardot and Claudia Cardinale. The latter, by the way, was in "The Professionals", which was another half decent film with an all star cast including Burt Lancaster. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 11 May 10 - 03:25 PM Odd that they would call a quintessentially German western bargirl character "Frenchie", isn't it? Yeah, that's a great scene all right. Nobody had more spark than Marlene Dietrich. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Ed T Date: 11 May 10 - 04:55 PM I liked John Candy, and am very forgiving with westerns. But, to me Wagon's East was a real stinker. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 11 May 10 - 05:18 PM My favorite Western film? ALL OF THEM! I'm completely indiscriminate; I love them all, good bad, indifferent, comic, tragic. If it's got cowboys and horses. I love it. OK, except the Wm. Shatner one, which I've seen; but then again, it's so bad it's good. Now a new thread or change the direction of this one: my favorite TV westerns: The Range Rider starring Jock Mahoney and Dick Jones; Bronco starring Ty Hardin; Gunsmoke with James Arness et al; Maverick with James Garner, Jack Kelly and Roger Moore; and loads of others. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Dave Swan Date: 11 May 10 - 05:28 PM Another mention of John Ford. Here's the co-star of his best westerns, Monument Valley. The Gray Fox also deserves a place on this list. D |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: maple_leaf_boy Date: 11 May 10 - 05:49 PM The Last Days Of Frank And Jesse James - With a musical cast. Starring Johnny Cash as Frank and Kris Kristofferson as Jesse. It also starred June Carter and David Allan Coe. Also: Young Guns and Young Guns 2, starring Emilio Estevez. I liked those movies. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 11 May 10 - 06:08 PM I just remembered "Red-Headed Stranger" and "Barbarossa" and "Honeysuckle Rose". They all starred Willie Nelson, and they were all great. The last one is about a country music player. The first two are westerns. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Tug the Cox Date: 11 May 10 - 07:10 PM Nobody has mentioned '100 rifles' I*'m not suprised. After all the build up the promised 'revolutionary'sex scenes between Raquel Welch and Jim Brown, it was a huge disappointment, despite a good performance from Burt Reynolds as Yacqui Joe. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Rapparee Date: 11 May 10 - 07:16 PM Winchester '73. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: J-boy Date: 12 May 10 - 12:15 AM Serenity? You'd better gorramm believe it. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: bubblyrat Date: 12 May 10 - 04:24 AM I can't remember the title,but there was a slightly odd Western starring Sterling Hayden as a Swedish immigrant who fought a gunman in the street in the film's climax,armed only with a whaling harpoon !! Anyone remember that one ?? Another good Western starring Sterling Hayden ,and which I enjoyed,was " Johnny Guitar". ( I liked Sterling Hayden !) Yet another good film,that I only distantly recall,was called ( I think !!) "The Squatter", or something like that,and was about a man on his own,holding off a whole horde of gunmen/ soldiers/ a posse, whatever,who were trying to evict him from his farmhouse at the end of a valley. Ring any bells with our American cousins ?? |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Skivee Date: 12 May 10 - 02:16 PM I'm throwing in my belated support for "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance". One of the best movies of the fifties. I'm not a huge John Wayne fan, but he's acting in this one is stunning. In fact the whole cast was stellar. The score, cinematography, directing, and script were all highest quality. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: bankley Date: 12 May 10 - 02:34 PM The Winnetou series. filmed in Yugoslavia for German audiences about the American Southwest circa 1880. Lex Barker played Old Shatterhand |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Ernest Date: 12 May 10 - 03:14 PM Like Seamus, I like a lot of them.... Some that haven`t been mentioned yet would be "Jeremiah Johnson" starring Robert Redford as Liver-eating Johnson, "The Mountain Man" starring Charlton Heston, "The Trap" starring Oliver Reed (Beauty & the Beast gone west), "The Big Sky" starring Kirk Douglas, "Man in the wilderness" starring Ed Harris as Zack Bass = Hugh Glass "Geroinmo" starring Wes Studi, Robert Duvall, ... |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 12 May 10 - 03:40 PM 100!!!!!!!!!!! Beatcha to the draw that time, pard. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) Date: 13 May 10 - 06:00 AM Eagle's Wing Monte Walsh Bend Of The River The Tall T |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: 3refs Date: 13 May 10 - 07:58 AM It's rather fitting that "The Shootist" was John Wayne's last movie. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid Cat Ballou(for Marvin, the music and the horse) No mention of "City Slickers". Kind of a western, and Jack Palance's performance was well worth the Academy Award! |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Mr Happy Date: 13 May 10 - 08:38 AM Wayb out West The Palefacehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkg2C_EIea0&feature=PlayList&p=9903415265A0453E&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=1 Son of Paleface |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: VirginiaTam Date: 13 May 10 - 08:57 AM High Plains Drifter and Blazing Saddles |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST,Neil D Date: 13 May 10 - 12:00 PM I also used to like Sterling Hayden, but not so much after finding out he had been a friendly witness at the McCarthy hearings, including the naming of names. To his credit Hayden subsequently repudiated his own cooperation with the Committee, stating in his autobiography "I don't think you have the foggiest notion of the contempt I have had for myself since the day I did that thing." In contrast there's another very fine western directed in 1969 by Abraham Polonsky , his first movie in over 20 years after being blacklisted for being an un-friendly witness to HUAC(House Un-American Activities Committee). Coincidentally, both Hayden and Polonsky had served in the OSS (forerunner to the CIA) during WWII. "Tell Them Willie Boy Is Here" tells the true story of Paiute Indian outlaw Willie Boy (Robert Blake) who escapes with his lover, Lola (Katharine Ross) after killing her father in self defense. According to tribal custom Willie can then claim Lola as his wife. According to the law, Deputy Sheriff Cooper (Robert Redford) is required to charge him with murder. Polonsky makes it an allegory of racism, genocide and persecution. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: steve in ottawa Date: 13 May 10 - 12:57 PM Approximate quote from True Grit: Glen Campbell (to the orphan Mattie): ...sometimes we had to drink out of hoof-prints! John Wayne: If I ever meet a Texas ranger who hasn't drunk out of a hoof-print I'll shake his hand. Sadly though, I'd have to say my favourite Western was: Oklahoma! "...by summer they'll be running out of ice..." |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: alanabit Date: 13 May 10 - 03:25 PM I do not think Sterling Hayden was the only screen cowboy, who performed ingloriously at the MacCarthy hearings. Did not Gary Cooper also snitch on some of his mates? |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: RangerSteve Date: 13 May 10 - 03:44 PM Some of these may have been mentioned before, but here goes: The Hanging Tree High Noon Cat Ballou |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: RangerSteve Date: 13 May 10 - 03:53 PM Don't know how I managed to post the above, but I wasn't ready to. My list continues: The Outlaw Josie Wales Shane Westward the Women Bad Bascomb - an obscure movie with Wallace Beery, one of my favorite actors. Any other western with Wallace Beery Treasure of the Sierra Madre My Little Chickadee - it takes place out west, so it's a western. True Grit, dispite the fact that Glen Campbell's acting was so bad, he couldn't convey the concept of falling if you pushed him off a cliff. (Not mine, I stole it from Dave Barry). Quigley Down Under - ok, it's an Australian with an AMerican cowboy, it's an almost-western. Alan Rickman is the villain, and I'm starting to believe that anything with Rickman is worth watching. There are more, but I can't think of them right now. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: ClaireBear Date: 13 May 10 - 04:12 PM I'm with Tami and Tam on "High Plains Drifter." I'm also a fan of another surreal film, "The Seven Faces of Dr. Lao," which isn't quite a western but takes place in the same setting. And, as Huw mentioned, "The Long Riders" -- if only for the music. And yes, there are certainly others... |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Don Firth Date: 13 May 10 - 05:58 PM Yeah!! Great one, Ranger Steve! Quigley Down Under. Good movie. Some really great lines!! Marston (Australian rancher played by Alan Rickman) hires American sharpshooter Quigley (Tom Selleck) to shoot varmints on his property (big ranch or "station"). Quigley asks what kind of varmints. You don't hear Marston's answer, but the next thing you see is Marston crashing through his own front door, bouncing off the porch, and landing butt-upwards in the dirt. He gets up, and enraged, says, "Nobody throws me out of my own house!" and charges back in. A few seconds later, Marston comes crashing though a window and again winds up face down in the dirt. It seems that the "varmints" Marston wants killed are the hundreds if not thousands of Australian Aborigines in the area, who often appear on "his property." They never seem to do much, they just appear on the hillside above Marston's station (hundreds of them) and they stand there and look. Then they disappear. But it is kinda spooky. Killing people? Not what Quigley thought he was hiring on for and he takes umbrage at this. Marston takes umbrage that Quigley takes umbrage. He has his bully-boys beat the crap out of Quigley and dump him out in the desert for dead. Crazy Cora (Laura San Giaccomo—it's hard not to fall in love with Crazy Cora) manages to find him, bruised and bleeding in the desert, and tries to console him by saying, "Don't worry, on a new job it's quite common for things not to go well at first."A couple of good conversations: Crazy Cora: You know, if we're lost, you can tell me.And with a British major. He and his troops wander in and out at various times during the movie. Major Ashley-Pitt: In our experience, Americans are uncouth misfits who should be run out of their own barbaric country.Quigley and Crazy Cora find an Aboriginal child, toddler barely more than an infant, wandering in the desert. They're not about to let him die out there, so they take him with them, hoping to find out who he belongs to and return him to his parents. They find a store and get some supplies. Quigley buys Crazy Cora a new dress. They're riding along and Crazy Cora is carrying the child. Quigley tells Crazy Cora that he's going to go and "get" Marston. Crazy Cora doesn't think that's a good idea. Crazy Cora: I don't want you to go.The final confrontation between Quigley and Marston is equally "off the wall," but I won't blow it. It's very satisfying. All in all, it's one helluva fun movie. Don Firth |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Seamus Kennedy Date: 13 May 10 - 11:44 PM See? See? I told you; ALL of 'em!~ Yes!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Stilly River Sage Date: 14 May 10 - 12:34 AM One of the strangest movies I've seen, and it is kind of like a Cormac-McCarthy-before-he-headed-west sort of story, but out of Carson McCullers (and Edward Albee), is The Ballad of the Sad Cafe. Vanessa Redgrave, Keith Carradine, and Cork Hubbert. It seems like a demented Western, even though it is apparently set in the rural South. SRS |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Allan C. Date: 14 May 10 - 06:03 AM For the life of me I cannot remember the name of my all-time favorite western. One scene in it may jog someone else's memory and maybe they can put me out of my misery of forgetfulness. In the film, probably made some 15 years ago or so, the requisite young and beautiful woman is pining away her lonely life as she maintains a stagecoach rest stop. From time to time she writes down her feelings on little strips of her petticoat, ties them to tumbleweeds, and casts them to the wind. Naturally, the hero stumbles upon one of these messaged weeds. There was some really great fiddle playing in this film, whatever it was ... Another favorite is "The Man From Snowy River". My favorite scene is when the young hero rides down a mountainside at full gallop. The angle at which he rides is unbelievably steep, but the trees around him are evidence of the fantastic angle. I really don't care that it was probably a stunt double doing the riding. Anyone who could ride like that has my deepest admiration. BTW, the scenery in the film was absolutely lovely! I also very much like John Wayne's "Cowboys". Dunno why. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: GUEST Date: 14 May 10 - 11:17 AM the Seven Samuri. Further west than Hollywood and the original. And more magnificent. |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 14 May 10 - 11:37 AM Unquestionably my favourite clip from a western |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Little Hawk Date: 14 May 10 - 11:49 AM That is one hell of a busy western town... |
Subject: RE: BS: Your favourite western film From: Ed T Date: 14 May 10 - 06:02 PM What's thebest gun fight scenes was in Once Upon a time in the West http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ4bNTU965E&feature=PlayList&p=F9EC779603550A4A&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=28 Or, Tombstone, the gunfight at OK Coral http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vsmpGfB9Q |