BS: NFL 2010 (US football)

Subject: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 09:23 PM

The Pats are gettin it done on the front line. Execution to a tee. And the new QB looks likes a young Brady.

The blocking on set play returns is precise from special teams and... well, I am goin to bed. Belichick looks like he's done another great job in staffing and recruiting. Of course, we'll see when the season really begins.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 10:20 PM

Tied at the two minute warning as I type this.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 10:40 PM

Pats win.(Yes I know it doesn't count,but still.)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 12:11 AM

I gave up US football years ago. I blame my defction wholly on television which resulted in the following:

1) Too much money in the game resulted in
2) Too many teams resulting in
3) A dilution of talent and
4) Free agency and
5) Too many divisions resulting in
6) Few natural rivalries.
7) The season is too long by 50% and
8) The game takes too long because of TV timeouts on top of team timeouts and
9) Machines make decisions which ought be made on the field by human beings, even with their fallibilty, and finally
10) Uniforms and cages make individual players unrecognizable...I'm almost convinced the pads cover up robots.
As a consequence I watch no NFL and few (only UClA...talk about suffering) college games.

And don't even get me started on Basketball which is a joke the way it is played these days.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 04:56 AM

Got exciting after I went to bed, eh? Of course.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Bobert
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 08:12 AM

Go, Washington Redskins!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 08:21 AM

Niners!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 11:23 AM

I'm still waiting to find out if Five's showing football in the UK this season.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 08:06 PM

just found out Ty Warren is done for the season.That's really gonna hurt the pat's chances,I'm afraid.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 09:54 PM

Poor Ty Warren (whoever he is). Poor Pat. I wish them both a speedy recovery.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 11:14 PM

Identity verified: Allen in Oz -Joe Offer-

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Please dont call it football you play out door throwball

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 11:30 PM

Hey, the Cubs are going all the way! You mark my words!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Nancy King
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 11:41 PM

Sure wish it were a regular season game -- 'Skins looked great!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 20 Aug 10 - 02:40 AM

Good to see Wes Welker back on the field.Thoughts,gnu?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 22 Aug 10 - 04:39 PM

What? Where did my post go? I posted around 5AM on the 20th.

Welker is one of my favs. He makes things happen. No flash, no mouth, just a hard worker. I didn't see the game but read that he caught three on the first drive. And that his knee "looked good". Hope it stays that way.

Vikings and Niners tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 22 Aug 10 - 04:40 PM

That post took.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 23 Aug 10 - 11:53 AM

Steelers

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 04:03 PM

Just heard - Football's coming back to Channel 4 in the UK. First game is Skins v Boys. Pardon me if I get a bit excited.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 10 - 04:51 PM

Did I read that wrong... or rightÉ

Damn my keyboard.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 03 Sep 10 - 11:40 AM

We're gettin close.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Sep 10 - 01:34 PM

Football's coming home to Channel 4

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 11:22 AM

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 01:37 PM

PACKERS this is their year

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 01:44 PM

Think they can cut the chhese?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 01:48 PM

Texans and Lions leading early? There goes my $2. Never bet big bucks the first week.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 02:41 PM

gnu - Date: 22 Aug 10 - 04:39 PM

Welker is one of my favs. He makes things happen. No flash, no mouth, just a hard worker. I didn't see the game but read that he caught three on the first drive. And that his knee "looked good". Hope it stays that way.

Appears it has! The guy is amazing. Catch, deke, block...

Double O's in the locker room for the Hail Mary? What good is that kinda talent if they AND the coaching staff don't know anything about time management? Can you believe that? Millions of dollars for stupidity? If I was the owner, someone would be getting a talk-to! Unreal! Bengals? Cinncinati Housecats (I changed my first choice) is more like it. Gee whiz.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 05:41 PM

Cinncinati Bungles.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 07:34 PM

Hope the Niners pick up before Wembley.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Nancy King
Date: 12 Sep 10 - 11:39 PM

'Skins beat the Cowboys! Yay!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: ranger1
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 12:03 AM

I was happy to see the 'Skins win, but I do feel sorry for Tony Romo. That kid has the worst luck...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 03:55 PM

Route for KC tonight for me .. ok ... Charlie is the offensive co-coordinator now for KC and he and his wife Maura are like family to me. Love them to pieces so lets hope KC does well tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 03:57 PM

GNU
PM me your address, I will get something from your favorite team and player signed for ya. The big guy was on the foundation board with me.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 13 Sep 10 - 05:56 PM

I am still waiting for my Brady Ball, Dan.

BUT... you might not want to send me same as I lucked in on five of six picks yesterday in the Atlantic Loto Proline and if KC loses by 4 points or more tonight, my $2 pays $23.50. Big bucks eh? Soooo. I WILL root for KC, but if they lose, I will be able to bet $5 next week. >;-)

Hmmmm... you can get any player's autog? Let me think on that for... Favre.... on a football... "Great catch! Brett Favre." No "Gary." Just "Great catch! Brett Favre."

Now, how do I set up a PayPal account? Of course, I would take a certified cheque from John Madden.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 06:32 AM

I shoulda picked KC to win at home, but I went with the odds.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 07:16 AM

Loser, I picked KC and won. Yes I have a Tommy ball for you, give me your address or I will hunt you down.. LOL ... by the way you are too late on the Favre. I had a GB superbowl game ball he signed for me. That went to auction a month ago for an autism foundation as my donation .. yah

I will get it out this week
Dan

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 08:20 AM

Did the same thing by the way with the Tommy gameball 3 years ago. I got 2500 bucks for a little autistic kid

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 08:26 AM

That's great charity stuff Dan! You da man.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 07:05 PM

dont call your game football you throw the ball more than kick the ball

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: ranger1
Date: 14 Sep 10 - 09:23 PM

Guest, if it annoys you, 1) Don't open the thread, and 2) have the balls to sign in and not under the anonymity of "Guest".

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 10:06 AM

Yo... Dan... got any inside info on Brett's ankle?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: PoppaGator
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 03:01 PM

As seems to be usual through the US this early-season, no one is talking about the champion Saints. Good! Maybe our guys can "sneak up" on the opposition asgain this year.

One down, 15 (+ 3 more) to go! WHO DAT!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 03:17 PM

Might be a Brees PoppaGator.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 18 Sep 10 - 02:39 PM

I see Favre is off the injury list. A ruse?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 05:36 PM

Now, that was a thing of Brady/Moss beauty. Perfect pass, perfect one handed catch. If guest can't appreciate that, guest has no idea what Yankee football is all about. The best contact sport in the world, bar none.

And, as I have said MANY times... I loves me football, rugby, footy, tennis, squash (the ultimate physical sport), cricket... Yankee football is the best spectator sport.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 06:52 PM

Amen,brother!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 07:13 PM

I just feel sorry for our "guest"

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:41 PM

Manning or Manning?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 19 Sep 10 - 08:43 PM

Manning.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 20 Sep 10 - 01:35 PM

Chicago? Beat Dallas? Another $2 down the tubes. At this rate, I'll be out of funds in 8 weeks.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 05:07 PM

FAULK!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 06:14 PM

Not only a great player but great leader as well.We're gonna miss him.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 07:34 PM

John
my rant is on baseball, don't get me started on that, Oh boy .. teams like Pittsburgh and Cleveland don't have a chance to go anywhere because of what you wrote above. but that is baseball ... well the Packers win again but against my home town team that isn't saying much. Buffalo again is in the drink. 10 years without a playoff ... thank goodness I am not a bills fan as the rest of my family

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Sep 10 - 08:25 PM

Hey... the Bills... I loved em. I remember that come back... you know the one. The whole fam damily(s) was at my place. My bro in law was razzing me and I said, intently, the Bills will come back and win this game... NAME your price... $100. I won. It was one of the best games I ever saw.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 01:45 PM

BAL, NO, NYG, MIN, NE, ARZ... $20.75

BAL, NO, NYG, MIN, IND, ARZ... $31.60

Couldn't resist the second $2 bet.

&^%^#$%* Chicago!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 01:45 PM

Oh, yeah... GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 26 Sep 10 - 08:03 PM

Fourteen straight wins over the Bills and counting!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 03:59 PM

Chicago? Again? Seattle.. over SD??? Even the Bills put up 30 on the Pats. Etcetera?

I am gonna have to wait and study a lot more before I blow another $2.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: ranger1
Date: 28 Sep 10 - 04:23 PM

Mmmm...I hope the Pats gel pretty soon. Granted, I no longer get to watch or even listen to the games with my current job. Although, now that I think about it, that's even worse, knowing they're playing and not knowing what's going on.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 01:48 PM

I hope Sev taped the game while he's at the Getaway... 14 zip for The Skins... and, yes, I put another $2 down... yes, I did pick ATL to win. But I'd won't mind seeing them lose to Sev's fav team.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 04:44 PM

Oops.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 05:46 PM

Skins are 17-6 up at the half.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 11:33 AM

What was Jay Cutler seeing downfield apart from oncoming headlights?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 11:37 PM

So, Randy Moss is once again a Viking.Are Brandon Tate and Wes Welker ready to step it up?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 08 Oct 10 - 04:22 PM

Welker can step it up anytime.

First stat.... Since joining the Patriots prior to the 2007 season, Welker leads the NFL with a total of 346 receptions (112 in 2007, 111 in 2008 and 123 in 2009) and leads the NFL with 7.5 receptions per game.

The man is a workhorse.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 17 Oct 10 - 04:17 PM

Haaaail Mary.... ooohhhh.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 17 Oct 10 - 05:15 PM

Deion Branch looked like he never left.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 17 Oct 10 - 05:36 PM

Indeed. The cheers were heart warming. And, in the fifth quarter, he shone even moreso than in the game. He is a class act.

His trade was a team building move and to see him return after five years with such enthusiasm and seamlessness as you have said, J-Boy, is a testament to his humble and gentleman self.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 18 Oct 10 - 08:22 AM

Branch lost nothing that I can see ... I questioned the release of Moss, now it makes sense to me ...

Well how about my Steelers, Big Ben is back ...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 18 Oct 10 - 08:24 AM

And no one on TV is talking about last years SB winner ... those guys are gettin it done also .... I think watch out for the Saints later on in the year ... they could very well make a run again

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 18 Oct 10 - 11:18 AM

I could swear that I posted a comment about the Niners having managed to win a game before coming to Wembley (even if it was only against the Raiders)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 24 Oct 10 - 05:53 PM

DeAngelo Hauls!!! Didja enjoy that Sev?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 24 Oct 10 - 06:06 PM

The Broncos look like they've already left Denver for Wembley - 38:7 down at the half (and Al Davis is still alive)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 25 Oct 10 - 10:38 AM

Cleveland? In NO??? Another $2 down the drain. It's fixed!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 25 Oct 10 - 10:56 AM

Gnu??

Who took the bet against the Saints?

I presume you gave odds?


So Dave its Denver and San Fran in Wembley? That is kind of sad. At least you might get to see Saint Tebow play.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 25 Oct 10 - 12:04 PM

I'm just hoping that it's "any given Sunday". At least I should have time for a pint or two in "The Moon under the Water" afterwards. If I hadn't already had tickets, I might have gone to Dublin for the Scotland Ireland shinty/hurling, Australia v Ireland at Combined Rules Football plus Edinburgh v Leinster in the Magners League.Sometimes you could be spoiled for choice!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 25 Oct 10 - 12:56 PM

JtS...

Proline (Atlantic Loto)

The actual betting site is Playshere. But you gotta log in to that one.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 26 Oct 10 - 08:45 AM

I dream of the day someone in the niners organization realizes we need a quarterback to win a game or two.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 26 Oct 10 - 12:00 PM

"I dream of the day someone in the niners organization realizes we need a quarterback to win a game or two."

Wasn't there a guy called Eddie something-or-other who used to do that?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Oct 10 - 12:54 PM

The Niners used to know that for sure. They had some great ones.

Stick a fork in the Cowboys. They are done. No home game Superbowl for them.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 03:23 PM

Had a great time at Wembley - has the change in quarterback turned the Niners' season round - a Superbowl isn't impossible. Biggest cheer was when they flashed up the Cowboys' score, and it's the first time I've heard Jeff Beck live even if it was just for "God Save the Queen". Shame all the English tried to sing along.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 04:26 PM

What do they have against the Cowboys?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:04 PM

Them thar Cowboys is from yer Texas eh?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:07 PM

America's Team?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:24 PM

Moss was cut? Whaaaaa?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 05:32 PM

Dave... at 2 and 6? Not impossible but....

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 06:04 PM

Cheering for a team to win is cool.

Cheering for a 1 and 5 team to lose another game is puzzling.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST,David E.
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 06:12 PM

"Moss was cut?"

Patriots can win without him. Vikings can't win with him.

David E.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 06:33 PM

But... what if the Pats pick him up? ooooooo

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 01 Nov 10 - 08:36 PM

Moss is just a rolling stone.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 01:54 PM

Good one J!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 02:03 PM

Nobody is making a move on Moss... I figured the Rams would have made a move by now IF they were gonna. I doubt if the other four will but ya never know. As for Dallas, well I don't think they have enough confidence in their replacement QBs to bother with ANOTHER great receiver. It's possible he will end up ??? I won't say it again.

And, I just read Merriman might be released today.

Whole lotta shakin goin on.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 03:10 PM

The Cowboys have more than enough talent at receiver. Austin, Whitten (TE), Roy Williams this year, the new kid Dez Bryant. They need Moss and his attitude like they need Rosie O'Donnell as a cheer leader.

If a couple of premier offensive linemen come up for grabs that might be a different story. But then why bother? With six losses they have almost no chance of making the playoffs even if they win all of their remaining games.

Cowboys would be better off shooting for the bottom, trading for picks and picking up a top 5 draft pick from their finish in the standings.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 03:55 PM

I hear ya JtS. So, will Moss go the full 24 and go Belly UP? Or will one of the other teams who want a shot at The Belly cough up the coin to keep it from happening?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 03:57 PM

Washington might be a possibility. Or some other team without a number of good long threats.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 04:14 PM

But... they would be spening a whack of coin on a player that cannot help them NOW and obviously wants to be on a "winning" team toward the end of his carrer... if not, why is he "free"? I say he is going back to the Pats... well.... I can dream.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 04:31 PM

I don't think the Pats are worse off without him. Maybe the Cowboys will trade them Roy Williams.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 04:50 PM

Really? Can't see it, but anything is possible.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 02 Nov 10 - 04:56 PM

I don't see the Pats looking. But I think the Boys will be cleaning out the older items in the attic.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 01:22 PM

Moss in Nashville

It looks like a good fit to me.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 07 Nov 10 - 02:37 PM

Did you see that deke by Cleveland? WOW! That is gonna be the highlight of the week. I LIKE IT!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 08 Nov 10 - 10:36 AM

"I think the Boys will be cleaning out the older items in the attic."

Does that include Jerry Jones? Kitna (who's younger than Brett Favre is probably one of the better players on the team.

And what's happening in Oakland? Has Al Davies died and nonody's noticed?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Nov 10 - 11:30 AM

No. I think Jerry will be there until medical science has to freeze his worn out body leaving the possibility of his torturing distant generations of Dallas fans.

But if a team wants Roy Williams....

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Bobert
Date: 08 Nov 10 - 08:14 PM

Jerry Jones fired Wade Phillps today...

(yawn)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 08 Nov 10 - 08:56 PM

And the players blame themselves. Which is fair. They certainly could have worked harder. But really its all Jerry's fault.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 09 Nov 10 - 02:48 PM

My Steeler pulled it out last night, but wow, that was close. And what the heck is Cleveland doing beating the Pats?   Wow ....

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 09 Nov 10 - 04:58 PM

The pats played poorly and they know it. But,any given sunday as the saying goes. That's why we love this game.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 09 Nov 10 - 06:00 PM

I don't love it when passes are thrown into the dirt when there is no explanation why. Or when a fair catch is called and the caller doesn't even attempt to catch it. When I see such, play after play, I wonder if the betting pools are part of the coaching staff.

Now, I know that sounds like sour grapes, but, PLAY AFTER PLAY? And, calling a run up the middle on first down late in the "score" when a blitz is showing and you have just made incursions into the secondary that exposed a weakness? FFFFF*****ck ME!

Sorry for the rant... just be glad you were not here during the game. I get pretty loud when I see that shit. Even worse than when I see Kevin Martin choke on a brash call in the tenth end.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 Nov 10 - 07:43 PM

Jason Garrett as Boys' Head Coach - will this turn out the same as Shanahan at the Raiders?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 10:39 AM

CINCINNATI at INDIANAPOLIS         INDIANAPOLIS         1.40
CAROLINA at TAMPA BAY                TAMPA BAY         1.50
ST. LOUIS at SAN FRANCISCO         ST. LOUIS         3.75
SEATTLE at ARIZONA                SEATTLE         3.40
DALLAS at NEW YORK G                NEW YORK G         1.10
NEW ENGLAND at PITTSBURGH         NEW ENGLAND         3.75

110.45 x $2.00 = $220.90

What the heck.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 10:59 AM

Jason Garrett as Boys' Head Coach

The offense has been the problem while he has been the coordinator. Jerry had to make a move to give fans hope so that big stadium won't look empty for the home games.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 11:03 AM

No way Tommy will beat my Steelers. They gotta defense that is jaw dropping.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 12:43 PM

Jerry Jones is on Fox blaming Johnson and Parcells leaving on his not being able to talk them into staying.

Johnson does not seem to agree.

LOL

LOL

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 04:40 PM

The Jets couldn't have left it much later.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 04:55 PM

TB said it... fire yerself Jerry... best football move you could ever make.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 14 Nov 10 - 05:11 PM

Dan... it ain't about Pitt... it's about the Pats' defense. Pats' offense can get by anybody any given night but their defense is certainly subject on the line and in shallow secondary... even the secondary and deep support tackling is doubtful at times. Not from a technical individual basis but on a coordinated basis. They just don't have the combination of braun and speed to back up containment in shallow or deep when they give up a reception... or run.

And, there will be receptions and runs, allowed by weakness in the front four, which will happen at some point in the game. Fact is, ya can't go back to the days of Brusci and... I'll stop there.

Now... will the GOT play? He is on injured reserve. And, he is Vinny ten times over. That may actually decide the game. Kick ball, get cheque!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 04:36 AM

Were those the same Cowboys in New York last night? The Garret gamble has paid off so far.

And the Niners could still make the Superbowl.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 11:13 AM

The Cowboys looked much better. But the are the same guys. Terry was right. Jerry, hire yourself a real GM.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 03:23 PM

Yes, JtS... imagine being on the field and the owner is there because he has the money. Always thought it was just silly. Near as bad as a baseball coach wearing a uniform at a game...not really, though... never knew when Tommy might have ta pinch hit eh?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: ranger1
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 05:44 PM

Well, it looks like the Pats' defense is starting to come together nicely. How many times did Big Ben go down last night?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 05:55 PM

It WAS heartening to see the Pats defense step up. If they can sustain the front line drive and the secondary stays healthy...?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 05:57 PM

If the MVP is the guy who makes the most difference to his team, then Hines Ward must be the Steelers'. Would have been a completely different game if he'd been there second half. Big Ben didn't do too bad a job getting the ball to his receivers' hands - it's what happened afterwards that was the problem.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 15 Nov 10 - 06:04 PM

Boy was I wrong, the Pats gave Pittsburgh a lesson for sure. Well good for them ...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 12:11 AM

Bill has got them firing on all cylinders now. This team is going places. Bet two dollars on it gnu.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 03:04 PM

Stumbled on this.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 04:15 PM

Too bad he's in Cleveland... who beat the crap out of them recently. It was a great game to watch, though.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Nov 10 - 11:30 PM

How about Michael Vick last night?

He came to play!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 20 Nov 10 - 12:50 PM

CBS, 40 minutes, one hour on Tom Landry.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 01:11 AM

Colts vs. Patriots. 4.15 CBS. Can't wait!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 04:05 PM

Shortly... GO PATS!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 04:28 PM

HOW did Brady SEE that and thread that pass to Welker? How did Welker make that happen? That is amazing football. That is coaching and strategy... that is why Yankee football surpasses all other ball sports.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 04:57 PM

Another one.... and another... laser passes and velcro hands from small receivers. And, The Belly backs it up in the red and calls a strike. Yes, I do believe that curve ball was called. Seen him call delay of game too or illegal motion and it worked, more than once. Genious coaching and call plays. I love to watch the mastery of The Belly. His is a fucking wizard.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 05:18 PM

Gosh... I am reminded of past years... clockwork. All cylinders. If they stay healthy and the offensive front line can take on the big defenses, I see SB in the future.

Yeah, I know it's just another game but I gotta get excited about them... Grogan broke more bones that any player ever and I watched him do it when I cheered for the Pats as a lad. He didn't have the offensive line protection I see today.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 05:24 PM

I remember Steve Grogan holding the Pats together in the Superbowl against the Bears after Tony Eason had his career prematurely terminated.

See the Boys have won again, and Favre looks like this is definitely his last season.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 05:36 PM

I agree... but it's Favre, so???

Fantastic drive by the Colts at the half. I was cheering them on every exciting play. This game is shaping up to be what I had hoped it would be. Great stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 05:43 PM

If Favre carries on playing like this he won't have an option.

See the Raiders have resumed normal service.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 07:19 PM

Wow! What a show by Manning! And by Brady! And both teams as a whole. The secondary on both sides were a joy to watch and the receiving corps were step for step and beyond! A shootout... it doesn't get better than that. That was the best game I have watched this year.

Yes, I know Vick was phenomenal last week, but I hate the guy. I still cannot understand why he is allowed to play after what he did, no matter how good he is... so what if he paid his debt to society by spending time in prison. He still only derserves not to be in prison. I think he should be working for the SPCA for life. Sorry, but that's my rant on Vick.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 21 Nov 10 - 11:45 PM

I hate Vick as well. What he did was despicable. But, as you said,he paid his debt to society. We can only hope he understands what he did and that his knee gets blown out. The puppy-torturing piece of shit.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 23 Nov 10 - 04:36 AM

"Brett Favre deserves much of the blame for Brad Childress' exit and the misery in Minnesota" according to NFL.com

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 01:54 PM

Crap! The game I WANNA see is on Monday night at 9:30 here. Anybody got any ideas what other games might be worth watching? Doesn't seem to me to be tooo many that will be really exciting.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 05:37 PM

I'll just be able to watch the Baltimore Pittsburg game (the team that calls itself Ravens v the team that wears Ravens uniforms - I used to follow the London Ravens in the 1980s)

Apart from that, will Dallas manage to confuse Peyton Manning, or just themselves?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Dec 10 - 06:08 PM

Just don't put any money on the Colts at 3+ points. Been wild that way this year and for the past few years.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 03 Dec 10 - 01:34 AM

Once again Vick led his team to victory. Damn. Why does someone who committed such atrocities have to be so good?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 02:20 PM

Come on, SKINS! I am starting yawn. Plus, I feel for Sev, which makes it even harder to watch. I haven't even bothered to watch any of the CLE-MIA game, but I see CLE is up a FG.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 02:35 PM

CHI-DET score looks like a good game but I don't get that here.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 05 Dec 10 - 11:54 PM

Steelers beat the Ravens (the fookin Browns in purple).
Woohoo.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 08:37 AM

Atrocities?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 11:49 AM

Jets-Pats looks to be a great game tonight. Brady will put up some points, and force the Jets out of the running game. Will Sanchez answer the call? Should be a lot of fun!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 12:16 PM

Sanchez & his receivers do well deep and Whilite is questionable so I expect an early and long air game from the Jets. Brady has been working the mid game well but could be forced long if the Jets are the ones who put up points and lead into the mid third quarter; that might be a problem.

Tomlinson will keep the Pats on their toes... Greene ain't no slouch either. The Pats match up pretty well with them on avgerage. Woodhead actually has a yard on them. Gonna be interesting to see how the rushing game is used on both sides.

I think the offensive lines may very well tell the tale.

Wish I could stay up that late and watch.

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 02:05 PM

In case ya miss it...

Subject: BS: 'Dandy' Don Meredith Dies
From: Lonesome EJ - PM
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 11:45 AM

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 02:10 PM

Oh crap! he was a unique character for sure.   I did so love the Monday night football with Dandy Don ... crap. RIP my friend

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 02:27 PM

Better than Howard, fer sure. I loved his intelligence, knowledge and comman of language. But, I used to turn the sound off sometimes before I heard another, "Thiiiss isss soandsoooo.... " and then say something like, "... and he gets tackled at the fourrrrty fiiive."

Youse watch Caliendo on NFL On Fox? Love his Madden impression (at times he goes too farve).

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST,Peadar (formerly) of Portsmouth
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 02:36 PM

Gnu

Your observation about the 0-lines being key is my main concern headed into tonight...especially since Stephen Neal (G) of the Pats was put on IR last week.

I'll be at the game, cheering on my Pats...but I'll be veeeeeerrrrrryyyy nervous.

Peter

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 02:36 PM

One of my favs of him doing Madden.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 02:47 PM

Peadar... yup. They were really starting to function with fluidity. We'll see.

Another "Madden" clip.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 03:01 PM

I don't think the Pats can beat the Jets, those guys are a machine ... I have been wrong before but this is the game to watch for sure

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 03:17 PM

I think they can... I don't KNOW that they can.

The more I think about the game, the more I want to through caution to the wind, order pizza, break out some beers and pretend I am 40 years old again.

Of course, the instant replay doesn't work the way it use to work. And I don't have any little red challenge flags.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 03:41 PM

I stay up late to watch my Steelers pull one out of the hat . That was a great game to watch

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:25 PM

Hello GUEST. Here in the states it IS football.I'm sorry if you have a problem with that.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:32 PM

"Between 1850 and 1875 five distinct, separate and incompatible football games, each jealously guarding its young traditions, had sprung from thew same fertile root. All these branches are flourishing still, and several more have joined them."

Nicholas Mason, 'Football'

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:36 PM

Of course it isn't guest. As explained many times by me in this Café, it's FAR better. Stay in the dark ages in the old folks home and swing your cane at things you don't understand.

Me... I love em all... I'll watch Yankee football, football, rugby, tennis, golf, curling, squash (the ultimate game to play)... and so on. But, Yankee football is the ultimate game to watch, as I have explained many times. I shant again. You'll just have to take mty word for it... and sod off.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 05:50 PM

Hi gnu.

Given up on the CFL? And what about Hockey, Shinty, Hurling, Lacrosse? I've given up on Soccer - it no longer looks like football. I remember the good old days when you could score by shoulder-charging the goalie into the net (and beyond). And I've never got the hang of Field Hockey.

Anyway, back to the game in question. How come the Steelers bench reckoned Big Ben's nose wasn't broken when it was practically pointing over his right shoulder. At least he described it as broken when talking to Andrea Kremer post-game. (Is there a law that says that female side-line reporters cannot be more than half the height of the players they're interviewing?)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 06:09 PM

Dave... the CFL? Three downs and a cloud os dust. Discussed it before. More physical prwess and less strategy make it more like rugby. I love rugby. I love Yankee football. I don't love a game in between.

Hockey? I had to actually type "hockey"? I am a Canuck! THAT is a given.

And, we don't call it "ice hockey". We do call field hocky field hockey, of course.

Dave... speaking of old style football... when I learned to play squash, it was on a court in a men's residence at uni. A "let" was not in the cards. It was a yellow dot in the kidneys or a shoulder or climbing over the bastard! When I joined a proper league I had a hard time for a while until I was informed of the actual rules for "gentlemen's squash". I spent 3 to 5 hours on the court at a time. Now, I get tired watching.

As far as football and Yankee football, it's like the fact that I like Aussie Rules and rugby far better as well. But, I still keep up with and watch The English Premiership... love it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 09:33 PM

Now.... that's the kinda shit you ain't gonna see in any other sport... Brady sees the line change and full blitz at the last set, audibles, and Woodhead leads Branch to a touchdown. It don't get more "chess" than that. Well, some, like basketball are close, but not like that.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 09:42 PM

I'll bet the Jets wish they had kept Woodhead now. Too small and frail to play ball with the big boys, eh? A yard ahead of Tom in the avg stats.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 10:29 PM

Made it to half time but...

GO WITHOUT ME PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 11:15 PM

The Patriots have now established themselves as THE BEST team in the NFL. Truly. A fourth Lombardi trophy is looking like a real possibility.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Dec 10 - 11:30 PM

You just watch -- them Cubs are goin' all the way!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:41 AM

I am stoked! I get to watch the WHOLE game this weekend and it's gonna be a good one. Pats at Bears. I get to watch Urlacher, one of my favs... their defense is 16ppg and the Pats offense is 31.6 ppg. Gonna be fun!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 11:22 AM

We've got the Eagles/Boys game - can the Garrett family keep up the momemtum? Judd was one of my favourite players with the Monarchs.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 05:43 PM

Not that I am complaining, but I expected a closer game. Watching the Pats at 33 to nil at the half in the snow brings back memories. I can only hope the young(er) team The Belly has assembled and coached pays homage to his past efforts. Sures looks like they have the chance to do so.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:01 PM

Jerry Jones on 60 minutes tonight! I wonder WHAT they might ask him???

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:10 PM

Are the Pats getting their own back for what da Bears did to Tony Eason?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:13 PM

They pulled the Bear/Pats game here off the TV because it was such a lopsided affair with the Pats up 33-0 and looking liker it might end up double that margin...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 06:48 PM

The Seahawks D seems to be doing a good job of holding the Niners in the 4th. Shame about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 07:17 PM

See the Bears won the second half 7-3. Still lost 36-7.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 08:55 PM

Rant: As a Broncos fan I'd like to make these observations....
What kind of sales job did Josh McDaniels do on Pat Bowlen to get him to put the entire future of a solid franchise in his hands and turn it to donkey flop? And then allow him to trade Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton? And then allow him to trade Peyton Hillis for Brady Quinn (even if Quinn was hitting on Mrs McDaniels at a Bronco Cocktail Party)? Not that firing Shanahan was a big misstep. Shanny is a control freak who couldn't call a coherent series of plays if his life depended on it. For Christ's sake Pat, get Gruden, or the Tuna, or Cowher, or even Elway, and get the @%$&! healing started. And while you're at it, go ahead and start Friggin' Tebow, and at least give him some game experience, cause you can stick a fork in this season and, imho, in Kyle Orton as well!

OK, now I feel better. Super Bowl prediction....Patriots versus either the Falcons or the Saints. Falcons are a better team all around than New Orleans, but Drew Brees is the best player in the league, including Mr Brady. The Pats will soundly beat the Falcons if that's the pairing, but will lose to the Saints in the best Super Bowl of all time if, God willing, that's the final matchup.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 12 Dec 10 - 09:55 PM

No comments except GO PATS! I enjoyed the game up to a point... that "lopsided" part is never real fun is it?

And, there was some great football today in other games. Espcially from teams that were not expected to perform. Great day of football!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 12:24 AM

Unless you're a Bears fan. (Happy Patriots fan says smiling)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 06:25 PM

The day has finally come - no Brett Favre in the sarting line-up! Did somebody say the man used to room with Walter Camp?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 10:58 PM

Yes, I think we've seen the last of Brett Favre on the field. All things must pass, sadly. I hope the transition to regular life won't be too hard for him. Say what you want about him, but the man was an amazing quarterback. We won't see his like again.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 12:16 AM

Favre was good but... there have been a lot of quarterbacks equally good... In their own way

Staubach, Montana, Manning, Vick, Marino, and Elway to name a few. Cameron Newton might turn out to be better than all of them.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 12:33 AM

Don't forget Brady, Jack. I'm a Patriots fan but you can't deny the man has performed incredibly well over the last decade.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 10:37 AM

Brady has a better record than any of those, including Favre. So does Terry Bradshaw.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 02:39 PM

Bradshaw is priceless. Fer a dumb ol country boy, he sure is smart. And honest and big hearted and...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 07:18 AM

Fingers crossed tonight!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 11:45 AM

Sigh... Pats play at 9:20 AST Sunday.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 01:34 PM

Niners fan Raptor?

Bradshaw was an excellent QB. But I think a lot of men would have thrived with Stalworth and Swan to pass to and Harris in the backfield.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 02:47 PM

Of course, JtS, but Terry was there. And he has FOUR Superbowl rings. And how many other QBs could throw a javelin 245 feet? And how many other QBs called their OWN plays? And how many other QBs were inducted on their FIRST year of eligibilty to the Hall of Fame?

I could go on.

Dumb ol country boy or smart athelte? He's got my vote as the best QB so far. Oh, Montana was great but I gotta give it to the country boy rube who showed em all how it was done. I could make the same comparision with Joe and Jerry. It don't mean squat. I just like Bradshaw.

Say... who is your fav player of all time... the most exciting to watch? I remember Fred Biletnikoff sitting on his helmet on the sidelines chain smoking... and smoking the secondary. He was a wee lad but he shredded the secondary. He got sent to Montréal because he was too short and slow but he didn't stay there long. The coaching of receivers in Canada was far better than in the NFL at that time and was a big help to him. Gosh... memories come back... remember Russ jackson and Stuart? WHAT A COMBO! "If you can touch it, you can catch it" said Number 11.

Oops... sorry for the thread drift.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 05:22 PM

Guest... yes. That's in the title of the thread. Good for you. You might be ready to ride the long school bus someday. Not soon, of course, but someday.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 05:25 PM

I can remember when soccer was a form of football.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 05:31 PM

Dave... heheheheee. I'm sure that thoroughly pisses guest off. Good on ya. Hahahahaaaaa

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 11:41 PM

We can't beat the refs thats for sure taking away touchdowns and unnessarly roughing our players then kicking them out of the game.


And to those who think soccer is a real sport "Get a helmet!" paint drying is more exciting!
You watch 90 minutes of guys kicking the ball back and fourth when there might be 2 secomds of scoreing in the whole game.Waste of time. No stratagy. BORRING!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 01:01 AM

Hey Raptor, we're not on here to insult somebody else's sport.We just want to talk about football.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 10:22 AM

J-boy re-read the thread it's full of soccer fans insulting NFL. This happens anytime football is brought up on the cat. It also happens anytime sport is talked about in general. "My team is the best, Your team sucks..."etc...

If we can't have a little jawing or trash talk we might as well be playing chess with those who compleatly miss the point of sports!

Without rivalry we are boring!

So Bite me!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 11:26 AM

Thanks for reminding me... English Premiership football should be on TV now. Great stuff!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 01:27 PM

Green Bay has impressive numbers, especially in the air game. If their defense steps up they have a good shot at taking the Pats tomorrow. Matter of fact, if I only had yards rushing and receiving per game and individual yards by rushing and receiving to go by, I'd pick GB. Their defense must be doing something right to see the individual yards per catch stats. Could be less confidence in the run game or a lack of patience in the coaching staff, maybe? Again, it'll come down to long game versus mid game and the master of balancing that is The Belly.

I think this game will be all about momentum and peaking which The Belly has seemed to make happen... and seems to have made happen given the last two games.

Would you like some cheese with your apple pie? (Yes, it is a vague reference.)

ext Sunday, I predict either a barn burner or a yawn with The Bills. The Pats seem to sometimes have a hard time with The Bills even when you think it will be a blowout.

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 08:39 AM

Green Bay are quarterbackless Gissels hubby will wipe himself with them.
I'm hoping Seattle and The lambs both go down in flames.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 01:21 PM

Oh my! I see that now... Rodgers is doubtful with a concussion. Anybody seen Flynn play? Looks like he only played one (or part of, I assume) game this year.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 09:35 PM

Flynn is looking good so far 10-7 5:33 left in 1st 1/2. Go Packers!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 05:17 AM

I'm glad I couldn't stay up to watch it. Wore myself out hollering at the reffing in the Colts-Jags game.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 07:19 AM

What a Sunday

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 10:58 AM

So Flynn is the first back-up quarterback to start for the Pack since Brett Favre in 1892. Definitely the end of an era. Though didn't you just love that Dan Connolly runback.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 01:32 PM

Note that the Giants have learned the Gift of Giving for the Christmas season.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 03:51 PM

Dan Connolly runback... oh THAT musta been good.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 07:26 PM

"I saw 2 kicks yesterday" but I bet all the players were on foot.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 11:06 PM

GUEST. So I take it you watch the NFL then? Please tell us who your favorite team is. Come out of the closet and join us in our reindeer games.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 01:50 AM

Which NFL team will get Cam Newton?

Is he the next McNabb or Vick?

Will he be as good as a pro as in college?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 05:40 AM

Might not be anybody for a while if they tar his father as they are trying to do. I think the NCAA should be investigating the accusers because they must have known about their "accusations" BEFORE he went to Auburn.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 07:15 AM

My niners might just lose thier way into the playoffs

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 07:17 AM

Wouldn't it be cool to all of us get togeather for a mudcat meet to watch a game then jam?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 22 Dec 10 - 02:28 PM

Any in-depth analysis, insights or predictions for tomorrow night?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 09:31 AM

The team with the most points at the end of the game will win!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 10:43 AM

I think Carolina will be lucky to score 14 points. Steelers are a good team. they will blow them out.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Dec 10 - 12:40 PM

Raptor... Madden impression?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 07:11 AM

Dallas at Arizona TOMORROW? So Kissmeass won't be a total washout!!! Of course, it may not be the best of games but it's better than NO football.

Kinda makes me think, tho... pretty crappy to make someone work on Kissmeass.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 10:34 AM

Nice catch

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 10:39 AM

The players get to do what the rest of us only dream about running up to someone hitting them hard then tackleling them to the ground. I want to do that at the mall while shopping. That ain't work.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 10:59 AM

Taking tickets and selling beer and nachos is work.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 24 Dec 10 - 11:23 AM

Raptor... hahahahaa.

Yeah, JtS, bummer for the guys selling peanuts for peanuts. Or cleaning the puke in the washrooms.....

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 02:36 PM

I'd rather get paid being at the game selling peanuts then spend christmas with my sister!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 04:04 PM

7 games without a turnover. Did Brady pass Kosar in consecutive completions? I had to go for a walk before dark and he was at 307. Amazing luck.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 04:10 PM

BTW... nine, NINE, turnovers all season, ALL SEASON, for the Pats.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 04:51 PM

They're postponing tonight's game because of snow? What's the NFL coming to? Some of the best games I've ever seen were played in blizzard-like conditions!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 05:00 PM

Not just snow, Blizzard. Are you gonna shovel it?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 06:32 PM

Which game is postponed?

The best snow game was when Vinny kicked that field goal. I still feel my throat from the yelling.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 26 Dec 10 - 08:11 PM

Vikings-Eagles,gnu.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 27 Dec 10 - 12:01 AM

I take it back.I just went outside. You can't play football in this shit. Not even NFL football.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 27 Dec 10 - 02:05 PM

Monday Night Football AND Tuesday Night Football!

Gonna be a good one tonight I think.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 27 Dec 10 - 02:20 PM

vikings are cursed thier last 3 games had to be moved

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 02:03 PM

A yawn tonight?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 02:24 PM

SOB! I can't find the game on TV tonight in the guides. But, NFL.com says NBC so I'll check at game time and decide if I can stay up past my bedtime. Wish I coulda seen last night's game... the final score looked like it was a goodun.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 02:27 PM

There is English Premiership football on at the same time so I wont go... hmmm... that would be a taped game and it doesn't say who's playing... crap!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST,Peadar (formerly) of Portsmouth
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 04:58 PM

Definitely on NBC tonight, gnu. Gotta figure the Iggles are going to romp.

BTW, I've hesitated adding commentary since the Jets matchup...don't wanna jinx my Pats...but since next week doesn't really matter...

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 28 Dec 10 - 07:17 PM

Thanks Peadar. I figured it was just a "delay" in the programming. >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 02:16 PM

Didn't expect that!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: PoppaGator
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 02:55 PM

The New Orleans Saints and I are very happy to see that none of y'all are thinking about the Saints at all. Keeping ignoring the defending champions at your peril!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 29 Dec 10 - 05:03 PM

Hahahahahaa... Brett got fined $50k for "being uncooperative". BUT, part of the statement made me laugh...

"Every member of every club's staff should be able to work in an environment free of harassment or hostility,... " commissioner Goodell said.

Yes, my cutting the quote short is childish. Duly noted. But I still got a chuckle. I guess Brett never had to attend any short staff meetings on sexual herassmeant.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 12:39 PM

Seems to have been a bit of a culture at the Jets. Remember that reporter.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 01:16 PM

Hey Poppagator. I called the Saints as winners of the NFC way up the thread, and mainly because Drew Brees is the best qb in the league. Now, I think Chicago will give them a run for their money, but I still say Saints-Patriots in the Bowl, with the Patriots being 3 point favorites. Take that bet! The Saints will repeat.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 04:18 PM

No Thursday night game... sniff.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: PoppaGator
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 05:08 PM

Thanks, Leej ~ very perceptive (unlike so many of the talking-head "experts" on TV, at least until very recently).

Last year the Saints had home-field advantage all the way to the final game, and may not have won without that advantage. This year they'll just have to show that they can win a championship the harder way, on the road.

Brees has been occasionally imperfect, unlike last year, but he's still capable of just about anything once we get to win-or-go-home time. The N.O. defense has produced fewer turnovers, but has improved upon last year's yards-allowed and points-allowed statistics. And the top two running backs, who have been injured for most of the year, seem to be rounding into form. All in all, no worse than last year's championship team, maybe a little better. We shall see...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 30 Dec 10 - 05:34 PM

Yeah... near 4500 air and 32 TDs for Drew. Impressive. 5.3 for Ivory but only 7 TDs on the ground between the top two backs. I dunno.

If the Pats and the Saints played today, I'd bet Pats... $2... >;-). But, who peaks on the last Sunday?... who knows? There's a lot of football between now and then.

Hell... Miami at Pats on Sunday? Like I said, even Buffalo and Miami, even when the are doing shit, seem to be able to rattle the Pats. At least in the past.

I know it's silly to say, but injuries may dictate the rest of the season. I mean, Shockey is a game winner and his nuts are sore.

I wish I could watch ALL the games. Actually, I CAN but it costs coin and I rely on the regular TV networks to televise the good games. Thankfully I live just up the road from the Pats and get to see a lot of their games.

Saints - Pats would be great.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 12:36 AM

I'm very happy that you enjoy your sport "GUEST". We enjoy ours as well.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 12:47 AM

I have been a live and die for 'em Steelers fan since the 1960s.

But I fear the Patsies can crush anyone this year.

SHIT!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 31 Dec 10 - 04:13 AM

Australian Rules, or as my Australian son-in-law calls it, Cross Country Ping-Pong!

I used to think it, and Gaelic, were closest to the original forms of the game - you could more or less play it to the FA 1863 laws. Now I reckon Gridiron is closest to the form introduced to Western Europe by the Roman army.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jan 11 - 05:32 PM

Same thing I said about The Bills. Tomorrow, it's Miami.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 01:46 PM

Edelman? Where do the Pats find these guys?!!! Holy crap!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 01:57 PM

346 passes without an int.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 02:34 PM

Yes, Brady is a monster. On a day-to-day basis, nobody keeps pace with him. But my guess is that Brees reads the defenses just a little bit better. And he has that never say die attitude,so you can never count him out. And maybe I just genuinely admire Drew Brees. He strikes me as a man of principle and character, and God knows we need more of them in football,and in life.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 03:55 PM

I hear ya LEJ. Great to watch.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 04:24 PM

They are a great team and you already know my relationship with them. However, remember that aside from the Jets there is no one in that division with any substance at all so 4 of the games are gimmies right out of the gate. Steelers can beat them, Ravens can beat them and so can the Colts. It is all going to depend on the game plan and if they can pressure Tommy. Throw out the regular season stats when it comes to the playoff's. Remember the "Perfect season and how it ended" They got a true shot for one for the thumb but it will depend a lot on who they play and how well the other guy is prepared to play them. There run defense is not great either

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 04:27 PM

The run defense is not great? The Pats?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 04:53 PM

Statistically it is not GNU

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 04:58 PM

NFL defense rankings
defense

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 05:19 PM

Statistically, Miami is better on the season defensively. Lately, it ain't doing a lot for them. Especially today. I think the stats may have been influenced over the past several weeks but it isn't reflected in the season stats. And, a lot of the teams with better season stats on defense haven't got a hope to go all the way.

It's what I call "peaking at the right time". As I said before, The Belly seems to be able to get the peaking thing down PAT.

In the end, all I really want is to watch exciting football. That Pats game today was okay for a while, but... you know.

Biggest thing for me was seeing the Pats' replacements step up and play amazing games... that Edelman is fucking amazing... and he sits on the sidelines waiting for a chance to play. When you have weapons like that on the sidelines it gives me hopes that number 4 is on the way.

Only thing I am sad about is the kicker, but he is good for every field goal so far... but... can he replace a kicker that is even better than Vinny? It may be the deciding factor if the Pats get to the show.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 05:21 PM

Opps.... GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 11:53 PM

How about those Seahawks? 7-9 and playoff bound. What do you guys think. Are they doomed or will the momentum from this win give them a fighting chance?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 02 Jan 11 - 11:58 PM

I forgot to say...Patriots are going to the Superbowl. I'd bet two dollars on it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 06:56 AM

Jboy i fear that they won't get past the first quarter against the saints

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 09:03 AM

?

Sunday, Jan. 16

NFC: Philadelphia or Seattle or New Orleans at Chicago
AFC: Kansas City or Baltimore or N.Y. Jets at New England

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 03 Jan 11 - 03:18 PM

The Patriots have a pretty good gauntlet to traverse Jets, Steelers, Colts, Chiefs, Ravens, they will have to beat two of those teams each coming off victories, and not a 7-9 team in the bunch. They are probably the best in the AFC but if they make it to the Superbowl, they will have earned it.

The NFC is a different story. The Saints seemed to have peaked at the right time the teams with better records look vunerable. The only team without a good chance, I think, is Seattle.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 08 Jan 11 - 05:47 PM

Saints and Seattle looks pretty even so far.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jan 11 - 09:19 PM

Not now. What a comeback against all supposed odds.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jan 11 - 09:50 PM

I fear the second half is not for me... it's past Oggieland pour moi. I expect the Colts to prevail but the Brees is shiftin this way and that eh? Got the VCR on in case I get the 2AM blues again tonight.

go colts, kinda...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 09 Jan 11 - 12:21 AM

What a great day of playoff football! Two highly contested matches and in both cases the underdogs won. This is why the NFL is the greatest sports league in the world. Any given Sunday. Or Saturday in this case.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jan 11 - 06:00 AM

I hope today is as good.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jan 11 - 01:42 PM

Apparently, even with three personal fouls not called against BAL so far, the may not bowl over KC with their physical size. I LOVE it! I HATE dirty play. But it still doesnèt look the best for KC.

doesnètÉ I hate this HP keyboard.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 09 Jan 11 - 02:23 PM

Great drive. Good game so far.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 08:17 AM

We got harbourgh as coach so we might have a chance next year.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 02:07 PM

Pats and Steelers.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 04:28 PM

Cubs are going all the way this time!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 07:59 AM

PIT over BAL; ATL over GB.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 09:35 AM

I want Bal and Atl to win

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 01:27 PM

I don't really care except that I was a big fan of the Steelers for a while. Perhaps, better put, I was a fan of the players during "that time". Watching The Steel Curtain, Bradshaw.... that was GREAT football. In 1976, after Bradshaw went down The Curtain shut out 5 of the last nine games (three in a row!) and allowed only two TDs and 5 FGs... unFUCKINGreal.

Minds me, Grogan started the year before and I was was already a died in the wool Pats fan due to our natural ties with the Eastern States. I always loved to watch Grogan play. Too bad the NFL doesn't keep the stats on most broken bones. >;-) Nobody will ever beat his record.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 04:36 PM

Are you ready?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 06:52 PM

I bet you were glad when Grogan came on in the second half of that Superbowl, though it was already too late.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 07:01 PM

As they always used to say when I was young enough to play anything, "Play the Whistle". The Pitt line should have killed that Big Ben fumble.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:00 PM

So the rapist wins again god I hate that guy.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:05 PM

Looked like a good game on the Game Centre - the team that plays in Ravens colours beat the team that calls themselves the Ravens.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:06 PM

Pittsburg wins but some dumb-ass clock management by the Steeler's coaches in the last 2 minutes...

I mean, really dumb...

But, hey, go Steelers!!!

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:17 PM

Dave... that was unreal... millions of dollars standing there stunned... were they ALL fucking deaf? or didn't know the rules? Thay are damn lucky they pulled the game outta their ass. Imagine losing a trip to the show because you don't know the rules!!!!

As far as Ben... I didn't follow that Raptor. I really don't know anything about it. Got any pertinent links? Sorry, but I am not on the ball. >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 10:32 PM

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/12/civil-lawsuit-against-steelers-ben-roethlisberger-before-nevada-supreme-court/1

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 12:32 AM

Seahawks at Bears Sunday. Who could have predicted that?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 06:32 AM

Thanks JtS. I didn't think any criminal charges had been filed, indicating a lack of evidence in both cases.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 06:36 AM

GB is looking good!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 09:21 AM

Just got back from Wisconsin, the area is a buzz for sure. Great to see GB in the NFC Championship game. Likewise my Steelers did it again.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 11:46 AM

Hey GNU
watch out for the Seahawks, forget the regular season record those guys under Pete C are for real I think. My guess, against all the odd they will take care of the Bears today

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 01:22 PM

They got burned early... how the fuck do you just run by Malloy? I'll bet he'd rather be playing in the next game. >;-)

Buddy really took a knock in the noggin eh? Poor bugger. I hope he's okay. I saw the ref call for the stretcher by signalling neck injury. I hear the game is on again.......

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 02:04 PM

Like I said gnu the seahawks don't belong in the playoff's LOL
holy cow 21 zip so far ... a route ... ok so I was wrong ... good grief I hoped to watch a better game so far the bears are clobbering them

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 02:50 PM

Anything can happen in the second half... I went for a walk in the coooold fresh air before the half ended.

I am looking forward to the next game. Got my long johns on, my big football slippers and my Pats hoody ready and I will turn down the heat in the house, crack a Bud and shove the pizza in the oven. Better than being in the stands.

I hear the game is back on.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 02:53 PM

can't wait for the second game that is the one I really care about

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 03:12 PM

Crap! Another knock in the noggin. I hope he's okay.

Nasty stuff when you take a guy down like he did and that guy is 6'7" 260#.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 03:18 PM

I think the Bears now have a good chance to win this game.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 04:12 PM

Let's go Pats!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 04:41 PM

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 05:30 PM

Jets look like they came to play, if Sanchez had been on the mark and not over thrown so many passes it could be worse right now ... Pats 3 Jets 7 Defense needs to step up

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 05:47 PM

The videotaping cheaters go head to head. This game is brought to you in fuji colour!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 05:49 PM

No way the Jets will stay in this game if their QB keeps overthrowing wide open receivers ... brought up 4th and 1 and they had to punt ... that receiver was wide open and he keeps over throwing them.   Big Ben won't do that ... will be interesting whoever plays the Steelers

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 05:50 PM

Gnu "I didn't think any criminal charges had been filed, indicating a lack of evidence in both cases"
Or indicating how tons of money can pay off victims, but they suspended him for 4 games without protest.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 05:52 PM

That's why even though I know so many of the players in this game .. my heart is still Pittsburgh ...also since I was a Pennsylvania boy ... Green Bay and the Steelers (my two favorite teams) head to head in the SB would be my dream game

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 06:17 PM

They suspended him for misconduct... not for rape. He is innocent until proven guilty. Your comment that victims were paid off is a tad too much.

In any case, this thread is about the games on the go.

And the Pats are in shit. That punt ruse was ALMOST a real good idea.

But, I still expect them to pull it out of the fire. Just watch what happens in the second half when The Belly brings in Welker AND Edleman at the same time. And then fires to Branch in the long game. <;-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 06:44 PM

Apparently, Billy Bob is not paying attention to my posts here at The Café. This is gettin outta hand.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 06:49 PM

They are coming to life now

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 07:46 PM

Sour grapes, yes, but, how do you get to 14 and 2 and then essentially bench Welker and Branch for the first half?

Anyway, there it is. I shall now cheer for ??? Although, I like to watch the bears defense... #54 is one of my favs of all time. I must think this over.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 07:48 PM

Well we gotta give the Jets defense the kudo's they played one hell of a game for sure ... got me worried now against my Steelers

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Bobert
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 09:19 PM

I loved seein' the Jets knock off Tom Brady and his Pats...

Like Ol'ster, I'm kinda worried about my Steelers but they'll prolly come thru just fine...

Super Bowl prediction:

Steelers 24, Packers 21...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 10:05 PM

Pains me to say it but the better team won tonight. The jets d blanketed our recievers and knocked Brady around like a dog playing with a chewtoy. How was your pizza gnu? Mine had too much sauce.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 08:04 AM

I didn't think the Jets would do it, the Pats have been more consistent with thier wins But "On any given sunday..."

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 08:10 AM

Gnu what misconduct do you think they meant? Do you think that the THREE different sexual assault alegations were a coinsidence?

When these players beat thier wives, torture dogs, or comitt sexual assult without being kicked out of the game it cheepens the game. This is the best game in the world and the players should not be criminals.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 08:13 AM

no one thought the Jets would win

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 12:02 PM

Wow. All of the teams I thought would be serious Bowl candidates are out of the picture. I have NO confidence in Sanchez as a QB, but Jets defense and run game may get them past the Steelers. I see the winner coming out of the NFC, and I think it will be the Bears.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 12:15 PM

Rap... "alegations"... innocent until PROVEN guilty. I thought he had been proven guilty but I was wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 17 Jan 11 - 05:44 PM

I think it will be Steelers/Packers

They both seem to have better leadership and more playoff experience than their opposition.

>>Or indicating how tons of money can pay off victims, but they suspended him for 4 games without protest.


When these players beat thier wives, torture dogs, or comitt sexual assult without being kicked out of the game it cheepens the game. This is the best game in the world and the players should not be criminals. <<<

No and no.

Obviously, if there had been payoffs, one of the accusers would not be suing.


These men are not competing for Miss America, they are not "spokesmodels" They throw balls, catch balls, run with balls and beat the living crap out of each other. What they do off the field has no bearing on that.

I think that Ben was an irresponsible drinker with poor judgment, but I don't think he is a rapist. The girls come up to him, bat their eyes and flirt cause he has 2 Superbowl rings and a 103 million dollar contract. He takes a liberty. They see dollar signs and cry "rape."

Stupid? Yes. Rape? No.

Hopefully, missing quarter of this regular season has taught him a lesson.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 09:36 AM

Big Ben is a very good decent person, like many other guys sometime he thinks not with his brain but other body parts. He was setup by others who just wanted quick cash, he was stupid and showed poor judgment but he is no abuser of any type to any one. He is young guy with money and it played out just like Jack said.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 09:42 AM

by the way, someone who is raped calls the police immediately. They don't usually call their lawyer and ask for a quick cash settlement under the table to keep it quiet ... good grief.. I wasn't there but that is my take

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 03:25 PM

I guess we agree to disagree But a decent young man? Really?
I guess none of you have daughters.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 06:39 PM

Everyone is talking here. Why were Welker, Branch, Gronkowski... benched? Was Welker disciplined???? Edelman was not sent in to replace Welker??? That's just the tip of the iceburg.

The consensus is that the whole thing is fixed. Seriously, that's what Eddy The Bum 2 and even the guys at my Sobey's food court are saying and those guys are experts. Now, I don't frequent Tim's so I haven't got conclusive research but it sounds like The Belly may be gettin "fat".

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 08:00 PM

Actually, I have a confession... Th4 Steelers were never "my Steelers"... MY late wife, Judy, grew up in Youngstown, Ohio & turned me into a Browns fan... Now in Ohio yer either a Steelers fan or a Browns fan but me being a Virginia boy kinda liked 'um both... That way when I went to Ohio with her I wouldn't piss off anyone too bad... Pure survival instincts... That took...

Go Steelers!!!

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 12:14 PM

Hey, there must be fans of other teams in Ohio. What about the Canton Bulldogs, Akron Pros and Oorang Indians?

And will the Decatur Staleys go all the way this year?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 12:25 PM

They stand a good chance Dave. Ya gotta love their defense.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 03:00 PM

I have daughters, and two of them were NFL cheerleaders, and not once did they ever have any actions by any players that were inappropriate over the 10 year period. I also know what Ben does for sick kids. Things are not always as they seem on the TV or internet. It is easy to always believe the bad without knowing the circumstances or the accuser.   Now back to the game, Steelers will hopefully be in the SB ... and I sure hope Green Bay beats the tar out of the bears ... never liked that team but I did like some of the players in the past (especially Walter Payton)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 03:15 PM

By the way, my oldest was in 3 super bowls. It was great to see her on the national stage and her dad was right there watching. Didn't care a crap about the game was there for my daughter. I sure hope this year is a great game, they have been getting better lately. In the past they were not very good games. Lately they have been very exciting games to watch. Anyone know who is favored in the GB Bears game, first I saw GB by 3 then I saw Bears by 4

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 03:17 PM

Urlacher? (I know...)

The Fridge? Member that time he picked up the back off the pile and carried him into the end zone? Why wasn't that a touchdown?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 03:25 PM

Whatever happened to McMahon ... the QB ... after he retired he really retired .. he was quite the character .. never hear about him or the fridge anymore

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 03:56 PM

Last I heard he was a spokesman for a a male enhancement product. But, after all those concussions, I wonder if he can remember what to...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 04:35 PM

Dan... that reminded me... Watch yer mouth?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 04:56 PM

I forgot about that Gary ... wow

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:03 PM

I LOVE watching Urlacher but here's DA BEAR!

I was always amazed at how he got away with late hits on guys already down. It was as if even the refs feared him.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:07 PM

He is still playing great, he may not completely disrupt an offense as he did in the past but he still has it. However Green Bay offense is really churning and now they have a running game again. It should be a great game for sure

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:22 PM

Urlacher is still great because he just has that innate sense and the intelligence it takes to play what I call free safety. Gosh... so many other names come to mind besides Dick and Brian... first one is Ronnie Lott... man he was fun to watch. Tight ends going over the middle had tight ends!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 09:17 PM

olddude Which team were your daughters cheering for?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 10:53 PM

They were with the Bills rap. One short stint with the Pats by my oldest but her work load was too heavy to continue when she moved to Boston. I am glad they don't do that anymore. never had anything but kindness from the players, the fans ... another story entirely ... I came close to getting thrown out of several games.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 11:23 PM

No offense to you or your daughters olddude but I wish the NFL didn't have cheerleaders at all. I hate the way they are presented on television as sex objects and nothing more.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 08:57 AM

Back when the bills were going to the bowl wow thats exciting were you a bills fan back then?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 09:52 AM

J-boy I completely agree with you ... Steelers do not have cheer leaders never did. The Green Bay Packers at each home game feature a local high school cheer leading squad to give them some time. I like that idea better and the fans tend to behave when it is kids out there. I hate the whole idea myself. Rap, although I still have season tickets to the bills games, I never go. My wife and her friends are huge fans and never miss a game but at the time the Bills were so good, I was happy to see them do well. I only went to the games to see my kids.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 08:21 PM

The cheerleaders are sexual objects... period! It's a sad thing in a way, no doubt... IN A WAY. But, if it helps them make some money for some harmless (yeah, I know) titilation, I say go for it and take every penny to the bank.

I blame guys like Dan. If he wasn't so good looking he wouldn't have daughters so good looking as to be so admired for their beauty and thus be paid to cheer for the eye of the beholder. Shame on you Dan!

WTF? They are young women. They look great. I like to look at ANY good lookin woman of any age, including Dan's daughters. That is not perverse. That is not exploitation. That is reality. Telling me I should not look at women from a male perspective is just strange. And I can prove it... on Sunday.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 08:53 PM

After my oldest left the NFL she took up an easy sport, she now is a ranked ironman competitor along with her husband. They made it to the world championship race in Kona. First I had to worry about football fans, now I gotta worry about injuries from that insane competition... ever read what the ironman involves .. Holy Crap.

I will say this GNU, both kids love the NFL. Raised a lot of money for all kinds of charities, traveled a lot and have lifelong friends including some hall of fame players and coaches. But as a dad, I hated it!! LOL

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 10:58 PM

Well put gnu! As a musician in my twenties I loved it when the opposite sex oggled me and catcalled while i was performing. having your looks noticed and remarked on or whistled at is not a bad thing or exploitive. I don't know one woman who doesn't love being told that she is beautiful. As for men that is one of the top qualities we look for in a mate. You can dissagree and pretend its shallow all you want but i'll call you a liar or a unick. As for the woman they spend a lot of time and money on triing to look thier best.

I have seen the buffalo fans get rude to the cheerleaders but I'd bet they do it despite the jerks because it's fun not because someone is forcing them to do degrading things. I even know a girl who made a living making x-rated films and loved it no regrets now years later. She wasn't exploited or forced into it. There is nothing wrong with beauty but the ones who seem to get upset at the thought of it seem to be the ones who lack it and are jealous.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:20 PM

I didn't want to start yet another Mudcat debate here. I don't think looking at cheerleaders is perverse and I don't think they're being exploited. I love to admire women also, sometimes they are the only ones who make life worth living. I guess it's just a matter of personal taste. But more importantly...only three games left! Who the hell do I want to win? Give me a team to cheer (heh) for.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:24 PM

Cheer for DA BEARS

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:25 PM

One thing, the security around the girls is first rate and that helped. I never missed a game when my kids were cheering, not in HS, college, or the NFL.   Never missed an Ironman except this last one in Hawaii but my wife was there (I got sick). For the cheerleaders it is a wonderful fun time. I was very proud of them making the team . Most of the fans were fine, some were awful, a couple tried the stalker thing ( I handled that real quick) I am just glad it is over but happy they had such a wonderful experience. My oldest gets invites still from Jim Kelly for his golf outing along with so many of the other Bills greats and Patriots greats also. just glad its over from a dad standpoint

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:44 PM

naw PACKERS either way that will be the game for sure holy cow what a match up. and of course big ben and pittsburgh, he always signs stuff for sick kids for me. can't wait till sunday

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 11:59 PM

It is shaping up to be an NFL Sunday for the ages ain't it? Which is good since we may not get a season next year. I weep at the thought.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 10:32 AM

J-boy, Tommy and crew will be back for sure. They are a great team every year. They still got their someday "hall of fame" coach. Still got the best QB in the league. Thing about them, every year they are a contender. They will as always make another run at it next year. Our Buffalo Bills here, ya gotta go back to Jim Kelly and the time my kids were in it to have something to look forward to. At least the New England folks have something to look forward to every year. Been 11 years since the Bills were in the playoff's. I think the difference between teams is the organization itself. I was on an airplane going to Wisconsin for example and the guy next to me was all decked out in Steeler stuff. We got talking, he was a scout for the Steelers. I asked him what college was he going to ... he said no I am going to the High Schools to get some players on our radar .. They start at the HS level! That is why each year they are in the hunt. My bet, the Pats do the exact same thing.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 01:04 PM

No doubt, Dan. Their recruitment under The Belly has been nothing short of amazing... now if he had just played some eh!!! Yes, I will never let it go.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 01:32 PM

Gary there was no excuse for that performance. I think they just didn't really take the Jets serious as they had blown them out a few weeks earlier ... The team I watch just didn't show up to play but the Jets sure did. Now Pittsburgh better take them serious, their coach seems to know how to motivate his team. I do however think the Steeler defense will rise to match them. I am hoping anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 01:58 PM

Off topic, but, when I think of Jim Kelly, I immediately think of the grestest comeback game and then feel sad that he lost in two shows. I know... Dan Marino and a few others but I really was disappointed when Kelly lost out because he just seemed to be such a great guy.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 02:04 PM

He is a scream, his brothers are a riot. The Kelly boys are a legend with their humor and antics and all in a positive manner.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 11 - 02:32 PM

It's the Irish eh!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 12:38 AM

I guess I gotta cheer for the Packers. Being they are a community owned team and all. Socialism does work! At least when it comes to football. Go Pack Go!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 02:57 PM

Cold, windy, might even snow... gonna be good!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 03:14 PM

Wow! Cool coaching fake with the Fat Man on the last play of the drive. Rogers said they were gonna be patient and take little chunks and that was a big bite!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 04:31 PM

I did not expect GB to dominate on both sides of the ball like that!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 05:56 PM

Now, THAT is defensive coaching and call playing at it's finest! UNREAL! The Freezer? 338 pounds drops back in front of the slant and takes it home. Exciting ball to say the least!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 05:58 PM

And Da Bears respond in 81 seconds! Great ball!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 06:19 PM

I am happy. After Julis hit helmet to helmet I was pissed off... especially when he argued about it and then tried to get the crowd noise up seconds later.

Very impressive win by the cheeseheads... my bro woulda been happy.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 07:28 PM

Steelers!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 08:22 PM

They look okay so far.

I noticed a big flash when the camera went panned by the 50 yardline... musta been Dan's teeth.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 09:26 PM

What a magnificient goal line stand by the Steelers defense. Steel curtain indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:00 PM

Packers vs Steelers it is. That's gonna be some smash-mouth football from two of the most storied teams in the NFL. Great matchup.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:03 PM

The rapist wins again

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:09 PM

And neither team has cheerleaders.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:16 PM

Just as I predicted...

Next:

Super Bowl

Steelers 24

Packers 17

B~

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:21 PM

Lets hope this happens again

I'll be cheering for the Pack this time.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 23 Jan 11 - 10:27 PM

What a decent young man

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 10:21 AM

Holy Cow fun GNU, I did give ya a wave, cold cold cold ... wow what fun. I can't lose this SB season, I love both teams ... no doubt Steelers will pull it off however. Raptor, if he got away with those things then shame on him. I only know the police all looked into it and toss it all out as unfounded. However, if he did, shame on him. If people were just trying to set him up to steal his money, shame on them. My only experience is positive very positive so can't comment.

all my work meetings GNU, canceled. it is now 20 below zero all around the state. good thing too ... boy my head hurts ... coffee is a beautiful thing right now

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 10:22 AM

Now if only some NFL kind coach or player will give me superbowl tickets .. hee hee ...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 12:11 PM

Police didn't find it unfounded they decided it would be too hard to get a conviction seeeing as ben had cops on the payroll as bodygaurds and it would be thier word against some poor student that they got drunk.

It will be a great game though and its a shame you can't go.How does one get tickets to a bowl game anyway?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 01:10 PM

Tickets are impossible, You really need to know someone. I never ask, although I was given tickets each time my kid was there but they consider them part of the team. Each player and coach are given 10 tickets. However all their families want to go and their close friends. I always felt if someone gave me the tics I would be taking the seats away from someone's family so I didn't accept. I was offered every time the Pats played as I was on the charity foundation with Brady and a close friend of the offensive co-ordinator.. never accepted, never thought it was right to do so. Only if someone wasn't going to go and had extra then i would accept. Even then it is hard because they sell for thousands. My first thought would be sell them and give the money to the foundation.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 24 Jan 11 - 06:14 PM

Raptor we can read those articles for our selves and they do not back up what you were saying. A twenty year old, in a place where the legal drinking age is ends up in a unisex bathroom in a bar that according to the article you posted was racially somewhat segregated until recently.

It seems that the incident has shone a light on lax law enforcement in that small city, deservedly so.

There in no evidence that the cops were on Ben's "payroll." It was his birthday and he was on a drunken trip from his house on Lake Ocanee 30 miles to the north. He wasn't running an organized crime syndicate in a Chicago.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 25 Jan 11 - 11:39 AM

Well all my pals from Wisconsin are emailing me ... this is going to be a great game I think, maybe one of the best all time. Sure hope it is .. I am thrilled .. I love both teams so I can only win this year. I give the Steelers defense the edge however, their O line is not what it was in the past, that will give guys like Clay Matthews a shot to shut big Ben down. The Steeler defense will put pressure on Rodgers, but you know with Driver and Jennings they will have completions. You can't completely shut that team down. The game I think comes down to defense and if Rodgers is hot, it will swing the Packers way if no turnovers occur. If the Steelers running game and defense click, it will be the 7th trophy for Pittsburgh. Going to be a great game.

Now in regard to Big Ben, as I said he has been wonderful to myself and to so many others. I never pay attention to rag magazines or web articles. I gotta go with the cops. He is no saint, there are few in the NFL or anywhere else for that matter that are saints. But he is no rapist. Likes to party yes, likes girls and beer, yes .. stupid action on his part playing into that setup .. yes ... criminal .. no way my opinion anyway. Maybe he has learned to watch what he does and says and who he is with .. I hope. I read a lot of BS about Tommy also that I knew for a fact wasn't true .. people like reading the bad

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 10:43 AM

The grocery fliers are filled with sales on snacks of all sorts, deli trays... there's a tray with a pile of deviled eggs... mmmmm.

I dunno what culinary crap I will indulge in. How's by youse?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 11:18 AM

Buffalo Chicken Wings, Pizza, and chips and dip ... the Superbowl tradition. I have a bit of a problem here at home. My other half loves the Packers. Yesterday I was informed that if I route for the Steelers this time around, my chances of getting laid again would be slim to nil. To which I immediately replied "Go Packers" LOL ....

Yee Gads, I now have to be a closet Steeler fan, hide my true feelings for the game. I wonder if I can pull it off.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 03:57 PM

Go Pack

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 04:01 PM

Jack his bodyguards were off duty cops that's on his payroll1 Read the artical. Look into it yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 04:23 PM

I haven't told my wife yet, but before the Superbowl I've got five Rugby Union games to watch!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 07:47 PM

"Buffalo Chicken Wings, Pizza, and chips and dip..." Well, if you ingest a whack of that you just might not get laid again... maybe laid out!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 08:32 PM

I'll be buying Buffalo Rib-eye Steaks at Mold Farmers' Market tomorrow morning.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 04 Feb 11 - 11:35 PM

I'm thinking slow cooked Yankee pot roast with garlic smashed potatoes. Or a lovely spinach quiche. (hah!)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: LadyJean
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 12:16 AM

You know, you'd think after seven trips to the superbowl and six wins, folks in Pittsburg would be a little bit blaze' about it all. But they're all out in Black and Gold today, and there will be more tomorrow. I guarnatee on Sunday half the congregation will be in black and gold. Rise Up Steeler Nation!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 12:41 AM

Don't forget to pack those towels. Terrible as they are.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 05 Feb 11 - 12:44 AM

Signed, bitter Patriots fan.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 07:23 AM

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I see what you were saying now. Not that the cops were backing off because they were on the payroll but that the other cops could not get a conviction because other cops on the payroll were lying for Ben. That is even worse.

Didn't the article say that the incident happened in a unisex restroom? If Ben, the girl and the off duty police bodyguards all were in that restroom, it must have been quite a party!!

By the way, if it was he said/she said, did it cross your mind that the investigators might have found mature policemen more credible than a drunk under-aged girl.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 07:29 AM

I know how much a lot of Packer fans would like to win one without Favre. I also don't want to see the Steelers become like the NY Yankees in dominating the SuperBowl. But I hope the Steelers will win.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 10:09 AM

I will be wearing my Pats hoody all day.

We don't get the TV ads.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 12:12 PM

Seven hours of pre-game... a little too much?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 12:48 PM

I do love the NFL Films, "Road to the superbowl" every year. Watching it now. Is Alex Baldwin (narrator) everywhere or does it just seem that way?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 12:56 PM

This is a great site for the TV ads.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 01:25 PM

JtS... get the feeling Breeze wants to tell Warner to shut the FU?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 01:35 PM

Go Steelers !! Don't tell my other half ... tee hee

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 03:38 PM

It's gonna be a great game. As I live in NB, I only get to see certain games throughtout the season. I can tell you anything you want to know about the Pats and quite a bit about some other teams. But, watching the pregame stuff... wow... both teams have so many great players. From what I have seen so far, I think the Packers have the edge today, but today is another "any given Sunday".

It may come down to what I like best about this game. I've said it many times. Yankee football is as much a game of chess as it is of physical prowess. And the stories of the head coaches is a soap opera in itself.

I'll be cheering for The Steelers but all I really want is to watch and exciting game. On accounta I have my Pats hoody on and my football slippers too. (After beer #X, I take the slippers off on accounta I don't need another "old football injury".)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 05:23 PM

Jesus H. Christ! I called 310-3030 and Greco said a 2 square foot, no crust, party pizza with the works would be $29.92 delivered. Add a couple of bucks for a tip and that's 64 cans of Campbell's soup... 128 meals! If I hadn't had those beers, I would have gone to Sobeys and splurged on some soda crackers (on sale for $2 a box... an exellent deal these days) to go with my vegetable soup that is now on the stove.

After all, it's Super Bowl 45 for me and going crazy with the crackers is just once a year... and I wouldn't eat them all tonight... although, I do have peanut butter and skim milk... oooo... that would be a decadent snack for the game. I even have Kraft cheese slices.

Shoulda got some crackers.

Whatta youse snackin on? (I know I asked already.)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 05:29 PM

Got my mouth stuffed with a chicken wing (medium) from the Buffalo Anchor bar and a tasty thing it is ... The pizza, not too good, got it from a local shop ... had a slice and said .. naw. But I got a pile of wings to work on here ...

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 05:58 PM

Pizza and wings? You are gonna have heartburn from all those omega 3 pills yer gonna hafta take. Besides shittin like a salmon.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 06:06 PM

Are you ready?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 06:33 PM

Dear Lord... we ask that you bless the referees and keep them from making shitty calls in this contest of contests. This we pray to thee on accounta they can really fuck up a football game. You know. You watch the games. Sometimes they even forget the fuckin rules and have to be reminded by the coaches.

In any case, they just flipped the coin, so I gotta go, but, seriously Lord... oh, they are gone to commercial.

So, while there is a spare moment... WTF were you thinking when you let Chrissy sing the national anthem? She destroyed it. Interpretation on a .... gotta go.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 06:38 PM

Is that a new Superbowl record for the longest final note on the Star-Spangled Banner?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 07:06 PM

What a ballsy call on third and one! Paid off! I would not have called that.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 07:09 PM

Good lord! What a rush to screw up Ben! He should have eaten it.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 07:27 PM

Steelers better start playing or it will be a long night. GB has come to win this thing and I never saw a Pittsburgh team in 40 years look that flat

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 07:33 PM

Where do they dig up these women who sing the patriotic songs?
Sickening!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 07:54 PM

Green Bay does look more formable.

But I'm not watching this game...

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 08:16 PM

Q... isn't it sad? BIG star and she really sucked the big one. Pathetic! The Yankee anthem is the best "overall" anthem I have ever heard and to have it murdered like that is almost disrespectful.

As for the game... it's still Sunday. But, the Packer rush and secondary are shutting Big Ben down. If the Steelers do not establish a viable running game in the third quarter, they are fucked unless they get lucky in the long game. But... whaddya do? Go for the long and lucky now or go with the running game and hope you have enough time to run and then shoot? I'd go for the shootout now... Pack injuries dictate taking the chance... ????

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 08:30 PM

Maybe an onside kickoff? >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 08:44 PM

I was wrong... the running game seems to be the way to go.

GAME ON!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 11:21 PM

Well congrats Green Bay, they certainly were the better team today. No team can win if you give away 21 points on turnovers .. The best team did win this one and Congrats to all my Green Bay pals

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 06 Feb 11 - 11:34 PM

Well done Packers! Great to see such a beloved,community backed and owned team win the trophy named for their legendary coach.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: mousethief
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 01:23 AM

Good to see the Stealers lose.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 01:44 AM

Excellent game!

And the robots that performed the half-time show were extremely rhythmic and life-like.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 07:11 AM

Great game. Now it's Premiership football and the UEFA cup... BIG game on the 15th.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 10:46 AM

Well, thank God that's over with. Now we can go back to solving the ills of the world. Or even discussing music.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 01:38 PM

The game was pretty interesting, but all the hype preceeding it almost turned me off from watching it.
One hype-er even suggested it was an unofficlal national holiday.

I started to look at the half-time show, but couldn't stomach it, so switched to a news channel.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: olddude
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 01:54 PM

I agree with Q, I couldn't take it nor the halftime show. Sorry no fan of the peas, just don't care for the music.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 02:00 PM

I just googled the peas and listened to a song(?) called My Humps for about 20 seconds... WAY too long. Glad I missed the halftime.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 03:10 PM

The peas made me wonder- whatever happened to the old halftime shows with marching bands, and songs one could sing or listen to?
I can't believe noise helps sell beer or whatever on these telecasts.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 03:37 PM

Q... kids drink more beer than old folks and kids don't know music until they are old folks.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 04:29 PM

I watched till half time, then left the timer running and went to bed - if I'd stayed up I'd probably had some more Noah's Mill and missed the second half any way. Got up this mornin, watched a minute or so of the peas, then fast forwarded to the second half, then watched till the end. As they mentioned several times in the studio here, since the Beeb's been covering the game, we've had a string of great Superbowls. Tiki Barber was impressed by how many Brits stayed up. Great to see Lombardi going home, though I wouldn't have minded too much if the Steelers had won. They remind me of a team I used to support:

The Black Shadow

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 04:44 PM

A Brit Yankee football league? Cool!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 05:15 PM

There's been quite a few leagues in Britain, unfortunately sometimes at the same time. The USAF had its own league for a long time, even played their finals at Wembley. The first game I saw was an exhibtion match during the Edinburgh Festival - (Chicksands) Fighting Chicks v the Suffolk Titans on 1 September 1962 at Goldenacre, then the Chicks were back a year later at Inverleith facing the Sabres from France. I supported the Ravens because they were the first British team I saw that played as if they knew what they were doing Victor Ebubedike (later Mohammed) ended up on the NY Jets squad.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: mousethief
Date: 07 Feb 11 - 06:49 PM

I agree with Q, I couldn't take it nor the halftime show. Sorry no fan of the peas, just don't care for the music.

Wait, there was music?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: J-boy
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 02:03 AM

I already miss it. Other sports have their charms but nothing, and I mean nothing, equals the NFL.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 11:54 AM

Marching bands are for college. The Super Bowl is all about the hype and the biggest possible stadium music acts performing. I thought that Peas were OK. Though Fergie was the only one who sounded like her voice was not pitch corrected. I try to keep in mind that current popular music is not aimed at my taste.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 12:45 PM

I'm still waiting to see the Grey Cup halftime show - they had Bachmann & Turner.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 01:12 PM

The highlight of the Peas' set was Slash emerging from the stage to play Sweet Child of Mine with Fergie on vocal. I still thought her vocal fell short of Axl Rose by a long shot.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 01:38 PM

Note to posters here: The season is over (thankfully), get on with life.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 01:53 PM

Bachmann & Turner? Rats! I woulda watched that.

John... move on... let it go. ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 02:42 PM

What is it about the Mudcat that makes it apparently acceptable to come onto a thread with no other intention than to ridicule those posting on it?

The fucking US Civil war has been over for some time. Does that mean it should not be talked about?

IF YOU DON'T LIKE A THREAD, Here is a suggestion, DON'T OPEN IT!!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 03:05 PM

JtS... easy lad, easy. It's just a game eh b'y? >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 03:21 PM

Hmmm, off your meds today, Jack?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 03:35 PM

Perhaps you would like to explain why you would open a thread A WHOLE WEEK after the big game, if you think that those posting on it are somehow stuck in some sort of non-life getting on with groove?


Even worse, why you would make such a stupid comment then follow up to see if it was answered?   :-)

Did you realize that Super Bowl Troll has a ring to it? Are you angling for that nick name?

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 03:46 PM

You're right, Jack,my comment was about as stupid as someone comparing the super bowl to the Civil War...a lot in common, there.

The late, great radio host known as Super Fan ended every show with, "In the game of life, sports is the toy department." Except maybe in yours life. I was having a bit of fun with you guys...you're having a heart attack, Jack.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: gnu
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 03:54 PM

See youse next season eh. If I live that long.

GO PATS!

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 04:11 PM

Yeah John, You are the only person who sees the humour in this. We all aspire to your impersonal detachment.

For instance we admire the way you got all of your discussion of this year's half time show before it began while the rest of us had to wait until after it was over.

Subject: RE: BS: NFL 2010 (US football)
From: Raptor
Date: 13 Feb 11 - 06:55 PM

So now lets talk about the combine then the draft Then signings, Preseason untill september... Oh wait that doesn't suit John on the sunset coast we better stop now till he tells us we can talk football again. And I thought all the sunset coasters were mellow from all the weed!