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BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery

Donuel 22 Jul 11 - 09:04 AM
Donuel 22 Jul 11 - 09:11 AM
GUEST,leeneia 22 Jul 11 - 09:56 AM
Donuel 22 Jul 11 - 10:05 AM
VirginiaTam 22 Jul 11 - 01:17 PM
gnu 22 Jul 11 - 01:59 PM
Little Hawk 22 Jul 11 - 02:13 PM
olddude 22 Jul 11 - 03:09 PM
Ebbie 22 Jul 11 - 03:31 PM
Donuel 22 Jul 11 - 08:14 PM
Mrrzy 23 Jul 11 - 10:21 AM
Donuel 23 Jul 11 - 10:37 AM
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Subject: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 09:04 AM

Since the fascinating and impossible incident 35 years ago I have brought the incident to mind constantly at least several times a week in passing thought. I have written and spoken about it profusely. I even wrote an illustraed poem about it 10 years ago. " Balls of light and second sight "
The encounter drove me to read and study physics, cosmology, dimensional math and explore sci fi themes for clues over the decades.


EUREKA i believe i found the answer.

What I saw was a quantum wormhole. The event horizon/entrance/exit is incredibly small, only about the width of several atoms, but the area of space time distortion and matter passing between the two points made a visible nebulus sphere with a weak glow of about 5.5 inches. I only witnessed the two moving spheres pass through a brick wall after my cat fluffed up into a frightened ball of fur. The phenomenon had the sound that femined me of infra sound. I subtle barely audible white noise hissed from the objects. When I placed a finger at the event horizon of the glow I expereinced a very odd confusion of normal time along with a surge of adrenaline from the strange encounter. It did not change course because of me or near touch as they both passed through the interior walls and could not be found after searching the interpolated course they were on. They traveled about 6 or 7 feet apart and in tandem. I assume that it dissipated out of my view. It may only be able to pass through a certain amount of matter before it "pops" like bubble.

Quantum wormholes are rare. The only thing different about Rochester NY is that they have a laser fusion reactor that uses electricity for their research that for a split second is equal to the energy use of the east coast. The bedrock is still expanding after compression of miles of ice during the ice ages and the city is on Lake Ontario. {erhpas these factors are unrelated to the phenomenon of quantum wormholes but I have given this matter an extraordinary amount of thought. There were times I wondered if I had seen a life forms or intelligence. I was on the right track when I ascribed a dimensional incursion of some sort.

While rare, many people have seen these things. That I saw both the entrance and exit of a wormhole may be unique. It happens enough that tricksters have posted phoney pictures of soap bubbles that are a sophmoric representation of what the real phenomenon looks like.

The quantum wormholes are a distortion of regular space time. FOr me the effect was exhillarting, confusiong but benign. Seeing a seemingly impossible thing, along with my cat, did send me on a mission of understanding that lasted longer than I would have ever anticipated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 09:11 AM

It is theorized that if one could somehow seperate one entrance/exit from the other we could transport things faster than the speed of light, although for only small bits of data.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 09:56 AM

Hello, Donuel. I liked your poem, with its amazing two-in-one structure. Very creative!

As for what you saw, I'm completely baffled.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 10:05 AM

While I was more curious than the cat, I too was completley baffled but now am more at ease with an explanation than ever before.
My late friend Larry Hockey was witness to this phenomena in his life as well but was never piqued with enough curiosity to give it the slightest introspection.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 01:17 PM

I have seen balls or globules of light, especially just before the death of family members since I was a child until I was about 22.

During prepubescence I went through a period of seeing cracks in the sky, which totally freaked me out.

Clear blue sky, not a cloud in sight and suddenly a split second jagged crack of light would appear. The shape and size different every time. Never told anyone about these events. They terrified me and I just made my way inside to sit near any available adult for protection.

I got a spank when at 4 or 5 years old I ran indoors breathless and excited to tell my Mom that God had touched my face. I was a bit too young to understand the term blasphemer. But to this day I remember the physical sensation of the right side of my little face cupped in a large, warm palm. And the emotional sensation of indescribable joy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: gnu
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 01:59 PM

VT... gee. That's amazing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 02:13 PM

VT - Extraordinary, isn't it, that people who in the first place claim to have faith in God (or something else along that line) will react to anyone else's account of a direct encounter with the same thing by labelling it as "blashphemy"! If they believe in it at all, then why can't they believe in the possibility of someone else they know experiencing it?

That happened a lot in the past too. Many saints were at first condemend as "heretics" and often put to death merely for claiming to have had a religious experience, despite the fact that virtually everyone around them at the time believed that you could have a religious experience....they just apparently couldn't accept anyone else making a claim to having had one.

Joan of Arc suffered on that account, yet was later elevated to sainthood.

Sounds like jealousy to me (and superstitious fear of the unknown). Those darned priests and other authorities just couldn't bear someone else getting more recognition from whatever is sacred than they were getting themselves...specially if that someone else was from a humble social origin.

No one would have questioned such a vision if the Pope or the King had had it! ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: olddude
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 03:09 PM

Ya Don good one but can you now solve the mystery of where I left my guitar tuner??


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 03:31 PM

One of the things that bothered me in my childhood, theologically speaking, was that if God/Jesus was capable of doing all those things presented in the Bible why was s/he/it no longer capable of doing them? I finally got the message, unspoken or not, that anything since the Bible was not valid.


(Look in the jello bowl, Dan. )


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Jul 11 - 08:14 PM

vIRGINIA, When I was still three I would see lightning people or things like small lightning outdoors in broad daylight mostly around trees. I would get scared and come inside. It is too distant and immature a memory to discern from insects or auras at this point.

Guitar tuna?
I suggest its on some sort of shelf below eye level but in line of sight, from a dvd's perspective


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:21 AM

That's cool as all getout, Donuel. Have you told Larry Niven?


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:37 AM

I loved Ring World.

Unless you mean a different L Niven.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Noreen
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 05:06 PM

Ball lightning


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: olddude
Date: 23 Jul 11 - 10:56 PM

Ball lighting can be created at home, I know I did it. Take a piece of paper or cig, light it, blow it out so it smokes, then put it in the microwave. The microwave will cause the carbon + and - electrons to shed and bind together, what you get is a plasma ball that is the exact copy of ball lighting .. it will however melt the microwave .. my missus was pissed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Smokey.
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 12:49 AM

Quantum worms can be a real problem, especially in old buildings. They can, however, be eradicated by the use of a combination of oofle dust and positively charged particles of ironic matter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 04:43 AM

but can you now solve the mystery of where I left my guitar tuner??

And where guitar picks go to?


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: Tangledwood
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 04:55 AM

Olddude - in future when you post step by step instructions could you please include as the FIRST instruction - "Read ALL items before commencing the process."


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Subject: RE: BS: Don cracks 35 year old mystery
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jul 11 - 11:58 AM

Ball lighting was ruled out 35 years ago. First because I touched them and I was not shocked. Second, They did not rapidly bounce off walls as ball lighting behaves, they passed smoothly and very slowly through walls (brick and wood) and third, the distance between them did not vary despite having grounding oppositely charged items closer to one than the other. Finally I was not burned by bright electricity or plasma, the glow was a barely perceptible globe of a soft nebulus haze in the enviorment of a dim room illuminated by only one low wattage incandescent light.

I learned a great deal about electomagnetics and dimensional physics as a result of the incident. Earth lights that are produced by a pizeo electric glow being released from granite undergoing pressure changes was also an early contender for what I saw.

Another way to describe what I saw was a single point existing two places at the same time do to a small deformity in spacetime.

[post is from Donuel]


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