BS: Galloway returns.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Musket
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 08:03 AM

Although by past form, perhaps 10,000s of innocent people, which of course isn't as bad...

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 07:55 AM

George was against the war in Iraq ( and the sanctions which led to the deaths of 100,000s of innocent children ... and, by the way, he also spoke out - long and hard - about Saddam's regime)

George was also against the war in Afghanistan.

If we could all turn the clock back - knowing what we know now, which of us would say that George was wrong?

To say otherwise would condemn 100,000s of innocent people to death.

BTW, in the same period, Saddam's regime would not have killed 100,000s of innocent people.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Musket
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 05:03 AM

Akenaton manages yet again to drag it to the level of homophobia. ZZZZZZ

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 04 Apr 12 - 04:58 AM

Oh let's go to the stoning.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 04:53 PM

Cyber fight! cyber fight!

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 03:15 PM

Who you calling a twat ? ya wouldn't say that to my face, you arse Really friendly 'ere innit.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: akenaton
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 11:43 AM

For fuck sake!...George is an evil bastard for smoking a cigar on the top deck of an open topped bus?.....is that IT?

Oh no therrs mairs!! He's been merried three times an' the latest is only twinty sivin......Holy Christ lits string the bugger up!!


A succession of political leaders have made us all complicit in the deaths of millions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, and you fuckin' whine about George smokin' and being married three times!!

I suppose if he had "married" another man he would be a hero to you twats?

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 07:25 AM

I thought it was prohibited to smoke on top of a touring bus, it would rightly be so for the rest of us but there he was chuffing away on his cigar. He obviously thinks he is above everybody else even a little detail like that shows the arrogance of the man.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Musket
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 07:22 AM

Ah, the tiger economies...

Think it through Bridge.. They rely on exporting to the Western world whilst importing nothing back. For their economies to work, the Western economies must provide the cash, so if we had exchange control, they would be in a pickle.

So rather than "tiger economies" showing that you can work with exchange controls, their success is due to the lack of our exchange controls in the first place!

Mind you, fair do's and all that, if we all had exchange controls, it would be a level playing field, but successive UK governments are not really interested in such a field of play. Whitehall policy still has a whiff of empire about it...

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 06:19 AM

Well actually Ian I wasn't thinking of plundering the financial industry. I was thinkling more in terms of all these dukedoms, earldoms, royal family assets, estates, etc. I'm not sure we can manage to keep all that wealth in our wallets without investing it - modernising the country.

You an admirer of thatcher BM.....! gosh! quelle surprise!

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 06:11 AM

Does our subservience to the EEC allow us to impose such measures?

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 06:07 AM

What should be done about bankers and multinational corporations etc is to take steps to prevent the greedy selfish bastards taking their ball away any time anyone else wants to have a fair share of it. It was Thatcher who dismantled exchange control - funny that all the new tiger economies still have it.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 05:24 AM

Just read this, and pass it on without comment.   

George Galloway marries fourth wife.... 30 years younger than him

New bride Putri Gayatri Pertiwi, 27, is two years younger than Mr Galloway's first child, Lucy, and 30 years younger than the MP himself
Double celebration: Mr Galloway has won a seat as an MP and a new wife Double celebration: Mr Galloway has won a seat as an MP and a new wife
Reuters

GEORGE Galloway has celebrated last week's by-election victory with a fourth wedding – this time to a Dutch woman younger than his daughter.

And the ceremony in an Amsterdam hotel took place just four months after the Respect MP's third wife gave birth to their second son.

New bride Putri Gayatri Pertiwi, 27, is two years younger than Mr Galloway's first child, Lucy, and 30 years younger than the new member for Bradford West.

Mr Galloway, 57, a cigar-smoking teetotal Catholic wed teenage sweetheart, Elaine Fyffe in 1979.

They divorced in 1999, by which time he had already married Palestinian scientist Dr Ammineh Abu-Zayyad as a second wife in a Muslim ceremony.

By the time of his second divorce he had a son with Lebanese researcher Rima Husseini, whom he also wed in a Muslim ceremony.

Mr Galloway said: "We will be moving between London, Bradford and Amsterdam."

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 05:19 AM

The left wing seem to have just one bogey man/person, in Maggie Thatcher, whereas the right wing have so many, they're spoilt for choice ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 05:16 AM

Mrs.Thatcher was a great leader. I admired her.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 05:01 AM

When it comes to boo scares Mike - the tories are full of them. Look at this petrol crisis business - just a way of saying the nasty unions are on the prowl. then there was the national curriculum - there to protect little innocents from from left wing commie teachers. And the polltax, put there because 27 pakis were living in every two up two down, and they all were using the health service and using library tickets.

Thatcher - she was bloody scary! And even more scary is tha fact that so many tories cling to the idea that more of maggie's spirit is what the country needs - to sort out the scroungers and reinvade the Falklands.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 04:42 AM

Gary Glitter is now more popular than ever, take that into consideration Al.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Musket
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 04:38 AM

Comprehensive education does work, I suppose. I would have problems lamenting it as I am a product of that system, the '60s and into the '70s experiment, and as a teenager, had the first of the sandal wearing trots masquerading as teachers.

But can't complain. Comfortable, got a PhD, more insulated from government decisions than most, and I suppose I should be grateful. Except of course anybody who is comfortable should be grateful for the environment that you became successful in, but to be grateful for your own success within that environment would be tantamount to being religious, ascribing your own endeavours to a higher power. Not much chance of that, so happy to be smug I suppose...

Galloway is a Popinjay, as Bridge points out, although it was Galloway himself who resurrected the term. Hitherto, it was a hotel in Scotland at Rosebank where I used to stay on business many times, and their kitchen was one of the best. Never thought I could get such good food so close to Glasgow.

Galloway, when you listen to him, does want a Labour government and sees his stunts as injecting a wake up call, in the same way as Ken Livingstone did when he first became Mayor of London. Second time lucky I suppose, but for all the faults and downright incompetence of this coalition government, I genuinely don't see an alternative yet. The economy is the key to the nation's success or failure, more now than in days of plenty, and I have no faith in Balls to do any other than live up to the unfortunate parodies his name conjures up. Ed Milliband was a key advisor of Broon, don't forget... (Mind you, Cameron used to advise Norman Lamont, and even write some of his scripts for him.)

One thing Osborne does recognise is that a sustained recovery, (which all main parties put in their manifestos, so he does have the right to try to achieve it..) does require the city to have confidence in the policies. It can be argued to eat the rich all you like, but unless you sit in your armchair rallying the sort of revolution that would mean your next meal isn't guaranteed, you have to take the city with you. A bit of a bugger, but there you go.

In case anybody didn't notice, we don't manufacture much these days, and the work we contribute to the GDP can be outsourced by the multi nationals at any time. What keeps us at the G8 table is our financial industry. Destroying it would be no better than when Th*tcher destroyed my earlier livelihood. Either way, you bugger up your ability to enact the social program that the genuine contributors to these threads wish to see, me included.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 04:27 AM

Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such valuable lessons as:

            
                - Knowing when to come in out of the rain;
                - Why the early bird gets the worm;
                - Life isn't always fair;
                - And maybe it was my fault.
            
                Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you can earn) and reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in charge). His health began to deteriorate rapidly when well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition.
            
                Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked teachers for doing the job that they themselves had failed to do in disciplining their unruly children. It declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or an aspirin to a student; but could not inform parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion.
            
                Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims.
            
                Common Sense took a beating when you couldn't defend yourself from a burglar in your own home and the burglar could sue you for assault.
            
                Common Sense finally gave up the will to live, after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap, and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.
            
                Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents, Truth and Trust, by his wife, Discretion, by his daughter, Responsibility, and by his son, Reason.
            
                He is survived by his 5 stepbrothers;

                - I Know My Rights
                - I Want It Now
                - Someone Else Is To Blame
                - I'm A Victim
                - Pay me for Doing Nothing
            
                Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on. If not, join the majority and do nothing.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 03:57 AM

Well, we did have a revolution, actually, in the 1600s. But otherwise what Al says is exactly right.

Comprehensive education works just fine if done right. My oldest stepdaughter was doing brilliantly at a comprehensive in Brighton. Moved to a grammar in Gravesend and they fucked her education up. Took decades for her to get back on track.

Galloway may be a popinjay, and Sharia law may need restricting http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/04/02/sex-and-sharia-muslim-women-punished-for-failed-marriages/ but we still need someone who will really take the fight to the privileged elite running the coalition.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 12:10 AM

Unfortunately IMO the Law of Unintended Consequences seems to stalk Labour ~~ look at the conspicuous failure when actually instituted of the o-so-attractive concept of comprehensive education, which I vehemently supported till I taught within it! ~~ leading inevitably to the watered-down Blairist compromise which seems to distress true socialists [of which I was once one in youth till I saw what kind of response any attempt to practice it, eg 1945-51, provoked in the populace-at-large - & not only the U's & the bourgeoisie either!] more than any attempt at an enlightened sort of lib-con ~~ which, undrifting, brings us back to our being saddled with the unspeakable Galloway again.

All v well you lot over there rabbiting on about 'Thatcherism' as a boo-scare-the-kiddies cry. What about Attlee·Bevin·Bevan-ism then!

I am no sort of political sophisticate, as will appear obvious. Just been living a longlonglong time & tried to keep my eyes & ears open...

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 08:07 PM

Well under a Labour a few decencies like the health service and comprhensive education happen. (Yes I believe that population should educated - comprehensively and that that is a noble aim. I don't think education is for an elite.)

The only principle that seems to guide the tories is the retention of wealth by the wealthy. because we have never had a revolution or suffered demolition of out society - the majority of the loot has stayed firmly in the pockets of the few, who invest it with no sense of responsibility to the greater society.

So I vote Labour. I am not blind to its faults but it has its virtues.

Can i imagine another party breaking through with a more forceful agenda for the social changes this country needs . No I can't. Not while the press is in the hands of right wing stinkers.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: akenaton
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 04:35 PM

Teribus is right about "Responsibility", we badly need to develop a sense of personal responsibility.....in a social sense.
"Liberal" ideology is sapping all our strength away, we are turning into whining, needy children, looking for a nanny.
Politically we need to understand and accept what Peter says, the capitalist system promised everything and ended up taking all we have away again.....we are only at the beginning of the slide into real poverty, and we no longer have the will power to fight it

We no longer have the people or resources to exploit, we are becomming the third world.

I think George understands these things....to survive we need to look beyond party politics, they are all welded to a bankrupt and unsustainable system.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 02:39 PM

"the party I have voted for all my life"···
,..,

To clarify, Al. Are we to infer from this that come-what-may you always will, and could never contemplate any variation from this habit in any circumstances?

Just curious...

Best

~M~

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 02:02 PM

It seems you don't trust Liebour (have to agree with that one) dislike of the current government is clear, so who the hell do you want to run the country ?

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:43 PM

PS What all this about Liebour. It really is bloody tiresome. I abandoned Yahoo's jazz page because it was full of 14 year olds going on about democrooks - just childish!

All politicians lie. that Blair lied to us about WMDs is a national tragedy - costing the lives of many young servicemen. Don't trivialise it, its something few socialists will ever forget. You diminish the awfullness of the situation by sneering at the party I have voted for all my life.

Athe time, the tories mouths were full of the same lies. both the buggers were in the pockets of arms manufacturers and worse.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 01:36 PM

A few suggestions as to how they could create work, might make interesting reading Richard.
Please don't include government jobs in your list, as we can't afford to pay the ones we have, because the tax take isn't high enough.
Although one wonders just what they do with the £5m a day they make from fuel duties alone, every day.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 11:53 AM

If and when there are hundreds after each job not even your remarkable social skills Teri are likely to land a job fast. Creating the jobs IS government responsibility and Osbornomics isn't working.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Stu
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 11:37 AM

Thing is T, you have to get over this pavlovian knee-jerk response to people criticising
the tories. If you actually did read my post you'd note I was criticising all three of the established parties.

For instance, Ed Mil was on the radio this morning banging on about how the tories, specifically Dave and Gideon had betrayed 'middle England' (no mention of the Celtic nations, note - he don't care for you none). A predictably inane comment taken from the Politicians Book of Hackneyed Phrases, and one which once more sees the rather witless Ed unable to make any political headway despite the fact Dave and Gideon are in the process of fucking over the entire workforce in order to keep their rich buddies in Bollinger and silk tossrags (interestingly, there are rumblings of discontent within the ranks of the tories about how these two are reaching for too much of the low-hanging fruit).

Anyway, Al's right. For many people life deals them a rough hand through no fault of their own for any number of reasons, and as we're (supposedly) civilised there should be a welfare state to catch those of us unlucky enough to fall through the net. As a society we have a responsibility to look after each other and our governments should reflect this, they are able to do this.

Luckily, and as demonstrated buy the fact no-one won the last election, most of the electorate think so too.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 10:59 AM

Teribus, I'm sure you're a wonderful self-survivor, but still you owe your privileged status in the world not to your own endeavours but to greedy (albeit inspired) capitalists who made Britain the richest nation on earth by exploiting the colonies and turning a healthy penny from the slave trade. Give credit where it's due.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Teribus
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 10:30 AM

You know what Al? I re-read Sugarfoot's contribution - the one that I actually responded to in which he asked pretty specific questions - none of which covered

Jews being gassed, starving children (most of whom seem to starve in so-called "socialist" countries (AW yes I know - they are not REAL socialists). While you might not be responsible for your plight YOU ARE responsible for taking whatever steps are required to remedy that plight and altering your situation - if you are just going to hunker down and wait for somebody else to do it for you then you deserve to expect disappointment.

Poorly educated?? No reason at all today in the UK for any child to be in that position provided that that child has a RESPONSIBLE parent or parents (sadly reduced number of "nuclear" families - Liebour did all in its power to wipe out the family unit to expand their benefit dependent voter base)- But there again there's that word RESPONSIBLE again and it is an absolute anathema to all socialists.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 10:06 AM

Credit where credit is due. Anyone Nadine Dorries attacks must have some good points - but how she can call Gideon "liberal" baffles me (unless it's just her natural stupidity coming out).

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 10:04 AM

That's very silly Teribus. can you not conceive that some people find themselves in circumstances that are quite beyond their control. Where the jews responsible for being gassed? Were the childrenstarving in every corner of the world - all responsible for their plight?


Why can't you understand that the poorly educated from lowly working conditions, or brought up in a culture where education is not foremost intheir parents minds - can be victims, and very sad and exploited victims in our society? Circumstances quite beyong their control and understanding.

I should have expected more humanity from you.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 10:03 AM

Teribus, have you picked up member PM? I know you are looneytunes right wing but what I told you should have concerned you.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 09:31 AM

"You loose your job? They don't care. Can't afford to run the car? They don't care."

If I lose my job Sugarfoot it is my responsibility to get myself another one - NOT the Government's

If I cannot afford to run the car, then I take a bus, a train or I walk. - It is NOT the Governments responsibility to ensure that I have what I would consider to be the optimum or most convenient mode of transport - that is my responsibility.

that is the trouble with all socialists it is always somebody else's fault, always somebody else's responsibility.

And every time they fail and they always DO FAIL, their supporters default position is always the same bleat about them not being "real" socialists - unfortunately that overlooks one glaringly obvious fact -

They got into power on a Labour/Socialist ticket and got all the muppets gullible enough to swallow their bullshit hook-line-and-sinker to vote for them"

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Stu
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 09:11 AM

"How on earth anyone could come out with that line after having seen what 13 years of Liebour (Blair & Brown) did to the country absolutely amazes me."

Because, like the neo-tory wonks that hijacked the Labour party after the death of John Smith the current government is not interested in us.

You can defend them, vote for them, argue their point of view but the simple truth is that Dave and Gideon, like Blair et al before them do not give a shit about you. They really don't care. You loose your job? They don't care. Can't afford to run the car? They don't care.

The people who 'rule' us as a nation are not like us (nor are the Milibands for that matter), and they are happy to see us marginalised. It's an illusion for any of us to believe we're living on equal terms with these people; even when I was a Young Conservative in a posh village in the north of England it soon became apparent that there was a real divide between many of the upper echelons of the party and the rat of us. Think otherwise and you're simply deluded (like those on this forum who aspire to a social strata they can never belong to - I mean, the indignity of such public displays of low self-esteem, blimey).

I'm done with party politics. We need people who understand what life is like out in the small towns and villages, the despair and grinding poverty of the inner cities. George is at least a breath of fresh air, and the fact he rags up so many self-righteous right-wingers whilst giving Labour a kicking can't be a bad thing.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 08:57 AM

What Galloway practices is demagoguery, not politics.

Strangely enough, both words have Greek roots.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 08:29 AM

"that includes everyone here, even the tory turkeys who vote for Christmas and support this shower"

How on earth anyone could come out with that line after having seen what 13 years of Liebour (Blair & Brown) did to the country absolutely amazes me.

Gorgeous George Galloway by the Will of Allah - MY ARSE

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 08:12 AM

Agreed John. The guy looks like he went to school in a yellow bus.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 07:24 AM

He looks more like Beaker to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 07:01 AM

Don't forget John Prescott, another fine example of a Labour clown.

Is it me or does Ed Miliband look like wallace out of wallace and gromit?

http://mellorview.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/wallace.jpg

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Stu
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 06:47 AM

No doubt George is a narcissistic gobshite, but he's no worse than any of the others. At least he's less of a hypocrite than the witless tosspots running the country at the moment and the directionless morons that make up the so-called opposition, or anyone in the past 20 years for that matter.

Dave the toff, Gideon the plain nasty, Ed the not at all red, the tory Aunt Sally (Aunt Shilly?) that is Clegg . . . all turds shat out of the arse of privilege and all disinterested in the lot of ordinary people (that includes everyone here, even the tory turkeys who vote for Christmas and support this shower).

George differentiates himself from this lot because he appears to have conviction, he has ideals and that's something we miss in politics. There are no real leaders anymore, no intellectual weight behind the legislation passed by the clucking, befuddled battery hens in the factory of the Commons, and seemingly no-one to even question their actions. Except George.

I don't really like the guy, but at least he understands that people are fed up with modern politics. Our politicians (like bankers, the police and the judiciary) are not trusted by a large part of the population (never mind the wannabes here who idolise people who would not give them the steam of their piss) and until they realise that they need to be honest and commit to social equality for everyone, not just their rich chums.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Teribus
Date: 02 Apr 12 - 05:42 AM

Funny that nobody has mentioned Gorgeous George's "Tweet" about his momentous victory in Blackburn - such is the level of commitment of the professional politician to his/her constituency - the man is nothing but an opportunist and a carpet-bagger, the worst example of what politics in Britain can throw up.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 08:11 AM

Michael, they did lift their shovels and are still digging, sadly into other peoples land and when opposed, they would mount your ass on a plaque. Well when you get the blessing for America, you can do what you want.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 07:26 AM

---Five thousand years ago Moses said to the children of Israel - "Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels and I will lead you to the promised land."---
.,,.
Trouble was, silly bugger turned left instead of right when he got to the other side. If he'd only gone the other way, then who'd have all that luvly OIL now?

And they still think themselves the Chosen People! Chosen for the original April Fools, if you ask me --

Posted this 1 April 2012!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 06:45 AM

I was reminded of this funny.

THE TONY BLAIR MEMORIAL COMMITTEE, LONDON, ENGLAND:

We have the distinguished honour of being members of the Committee to raise Twenty Five Million Pounds to place a statue of Tony Blair in front of the Houses of Parliament.

The Committee was in quite a quandary about selecting the proper location for the statue. It was thought unwise to place it beside the statue of George Washington who never told a lie, nor beside Lloyd George who never told the truth, since Tony Blair could never tell the difference.

After careful consideration we thought it would be a good idea to place it beside the statue of Christopher Columbus, the greatest socialist of them all, in that he started out not knowing where he was going and, upon arrival, did not know where he was and, on returning, did not know where he had been and did it all on borrowed money.

Five thousand years ago Moses said to the children of Israel - "Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels and I will lead you to the promised land."   

Five thousand years later the unions said "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, light a Camel - this is the promised land."

And now Tony Blair is selling your shovels, kicking your asses, raising the price of Camels and taking over the promised land.

If you are one of the citizens who has any money at all left after paying all of Tony's taxes, we expect a generous contribution from you for this worthwhile project.

It's a rework of an old joke about Rosevelt, and has been used in connection with Reagan Clinton, and Harold Wilson, among others.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 05:43 AM

Galloway is the Arch Opportunistr - As one f the panelists on Any Questins said , it is very easy to make all sorts of promises if there is NO chance of ever having to honour them

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 05:17 AM

Not too bad for my age, thanks Al ~~ see my new BS thread, 'tattered coat...'.

All best back 2U, azevva...

~Michael~

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 05:07 AM

MGM - I know lots of tories who would be outraged and distance themselves from the things Bluesman has said about the unemployed in this time of recession.

However the last time anyone said anything like that in the British parliament was Thatcher and Tebbit, and Lily of course. In fact tories with a more compassionate turn of mind were branded wets, and lost their ministerial jobs. Or got shat on from a great height - like John MacGregor and Hesseltine.

Thatcherite is the correct term.

Hope you are keeping well, MGM.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: akenaton
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 04:54 AM

Time to get real and let go of your party allegiances.
George was one of the very few voices opposing the war and the policies and personna of Tony Blair before our involvement in Iraq.

Blair threw him out of the Labour Party, and the sycophants here and in Westminster gloated.

Now history has been re-written and we all "opposed" the war!
We all knew Blair was a "scumbag".........didn't we?

George was brave enough to put his political career on the line to oppose contributing to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of our troops and Iraqi civilians, while the Labour party and ninety percent of mudcat were shit scared to lose a "winner", so we held our noses.

But George remembers and has had his revenge in spades.....back in the Commons to torture the hypocrits....you should be delighted!

The lesson?.....you want change then you must be prepared to gamble, it's all or nothing, stop pussyfooting about trying to fix something which is irrepairable.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 11:53 PM

Yours of 0630pm McGrath ~~ Remember that he once went thru a Muslim marriage ceremony in an arguably bigamous* attempt to pass himself off as a Muslim some years ago: fine RC, eh?

Al ~ Please don't obscure the issue by dragging up Maggie's name yet again as a bugaboo to scare the children: we have been thru that often enough around here in all conscience.

~M~


*In 1994, he married Amineh Abu-Zayyad as a second wife in a Muslim ceremony (later after his divorce from his first wife, he & Abu-Zayyad also undertook a civil ceremony)

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 08:19 PM

Yeh ....you've got a history of being a tory. But most things you say would outrage most decent tories. You're a thatcherite, Mr Bluesman.


Put it another way, a bleeding fascist. Everything my dad had to get in a tank and fire bullets at.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 07:52 PM

The majority of voters would like the House of Lords to be elected. I was privileged to know a Lord and can say, without a shred of doubt, that I would far have preferred him to stand up for me than some PC leftie who hates anyone with a few notes in their hip pocket.

The Blair govt threw him and many like him out and put people like Two Jags and Neil Kinnock in (despite their having said that they would not want it) And they said it far more vociferously than that.

Galloway is a fool, always was, always will be, he has a history of chasing young women looking passion and receiving dosh from shady figures, both of these easily confirmed in a web search.

Bradford got what it deserved, it is a tip, as are the people living in it.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Paul Burke
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 07:30 PM

You wouldn't understand Richard. Al Whittle might.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 07:28 PM

What di dthat mean?

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Paul Burke
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 06:55 PM

There are many (millions? let's not exaggerate) of ex- Labour supporters around, particularly in post- industrial areas*. We tend not to vote, as there's no one to vote for. This has the rather unfortunate effect of leaving the field open to the fascists (UKIP and worse). So the election of Gorgeous George, while he's clearly a principled bastard- not my principles at least- is welcome as a recall of the old Labour (Santa Clause Four days) policy of reminding old bastard trades unionists scared of black faces, and new immigrant would-be political gangmasters, of the unity of necessity of the working class. Because the tories are (and are now even more so) far worse.

And bluescrap and gonzo are the alternative.

*me gloriously no longer.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 06:30 PM

So Labour puts up a Muslim candidate, and Respect puts up a Catholic, and the Muslims of Bradford overwhelmingly voted for the Catholic - and this supposed to prove that it's all a case of people voting on sectarian lines, rather than because they preferred Galloway's politics...

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 05:40 PM

Hoots man !

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 04:22 PM

A man with a very broad Scottish accent called my office from HM Revenue & Customs in a Scottish ghetto last week. I could barely understand what he was saying and requested to speak to someone who could speak English more clearly - he hit the roof so I ended the call!!

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 04:03 PM

Another thought. What does it say about our 'Multicultural Society' when canvassers have to be able to speak a foreign language in order to make their point, in the UK. Why in these days of the 'English Test' when applying to become a British citizen, is this necessary?
I'm no racist, but this makes Bradford sound like a ghetto, and that makes me very sad.
Is there something wrong with us, that people do not want to become part of our society?

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 03:34 PM

"THE CHAV'S PRAYER................

Love it Bonzo, just love it. Says it all !

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 03:33 PM

Yes Al, that was in the days when "We never had it so good" The reverse is now the case.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 02:36 PM

AS I remeber the open door policy was initiated by the Tories - remeber MacMillan - 'let them all come....'

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 02:24 PM

Yes, Bonzo...and it's Tory Loving Corporate Bastards who've brainwashed so many people into becoming 'chavs' or any other 'tribe' that you may want to mention, so they can exploit every last fecking penny out of them, regardless of what they do to society..

May I suggest you write a Tory Hypocrite's Prayer to accompany your one above....

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 02:20 PM

As Chief Oren Lyons says, it is time to become Our Own Leaders...

Here is one of the reasons why..

George Galloway in Big Brother

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 02:12 PM

"THE CHAV'S PRAYER................
Our father,who art in prison, Mother knows not his name.
Thy chavdom come, thy shoplifting be done,in JJB sports as it is in Poundland.
Give us this day our welfare bread,and forgive us our ASBOs,as we happy slap those who give evidence against us.
And lead us not into employment, but deliver us free housing. For thine is chavdom,the Burberry and the blackberry for ever and ever........... Innit"

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 02:10 PM

Ok, GtD, I probably put too much reliance on John Mann for myunderstanding of present-day Bradford. It is some years since I spent much time there. This is what Mann wrote after canvassing in the Toller ward:

"...what was particularly disconcerting was having no Muslim doorknockers, no Urdu speaker, no Hijab wearing woman talking to Muslim women voters."

Would you say he's wide of the mark?

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 01:42 PM

"But sooner of later all the problems they have neglected will make England uninhabitable. "

I agree Alan, that is because of Labours open door policy, glad to say, that door is getting a big strong bolt made for it as we speak.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 01:38 PM

Dave, "
Bluesman really ought to stop all this shit about once supporting Labour, he's 200% tory and he knows it."

When did I say I supported Labour ? I NEVER voted Labour in my life. Yes I am a tory, and better still, proud to say it.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Old boy
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 01:29 PM

Well Bonzo, what amount of wealth do you dream of before you'd be 'Rich'?

To an obvious extent any definition is bound to be 'relative';

and as hard up & hard done by as it seems you consider yourself to be,
many of us would still estimate you to be reasonably well off.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Jim McLean
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 01:28 PM

I watched a video clip where Galloway denounced Scottish independence as, he said, it would leave England with a permanent Toty majority. If England wants to vote in a Tory government is this not their democratic right?
So much for Galloway's idea of democracy.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 01:25 PM

Are you just stupid , or what?

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 01:18 PM

Erm.....large amounts of money - define large!

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 01:16 PM

Rich - Having large amounts of money.
Privileged - Having a position not earned through effort or merit but through family or business connections.

There - not difficult, was it?
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 12:50 PM

Let's see your definition of rich and privileged.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 12:31 PM

Nothing wrong with rich and privileged people getting involved in politics. Everything wrong when they do so on behalf of rich and privileged people.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 12:09 PM

I started to read the Dalrymple article but had to stop part way through as it was such reactionary and inflammatory rhetoric and in no way described my home city of Bradford.
As I recall Ray Honeyford published comments which the non-racist people of Bradford were horrified by. His description didn't in any way cover the reality of a town proud to embrace immigrants from all over the World. German Jews, Polish, Ukrainian, Czech,Estonian refugees of WWII, Irish, Jamaican, Indian and Pakistani, Students from Iran and Iraq - pretty much If you can think of it - they are in Bradford.
In the late eighties the Bradford Festival brought all communities together with city-wide entertainment and cultural events. In later years one of the highlights of the festival was the Mela, an idea subsequently copied by major cities including London and Edinburgh.
I have never seen the Bradford described by Honeyford, because it was a fantasy of people with a racist agenda, selectively ignoring anything which contradicted the position they were attempting to broadcast.
Quack!
Geoff.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 12:07 PM

We all are Dave - cos the tories always win. Sometimes they're in charge of the labour Party.

The unions brought the country to its knees...? I worked for Leyland while i was waiting to re-take my finals. never saw a union member cause any trouble - saw thousands of dumb management decisions though.

No the problem with this country is that all the loots in the hands of the same people who had it in the 16th century. they sit on the money and just put it where it will make them more loot. Not always in the interest of the country.

It'll work for a while longer. But sooner of later all the problems they have neglected will make England uninhabitable.

Most people want to work. Want a mortgage - the status of paying your own way and buying your own home. All the bums you describe Bluesman are there because they are being denied work - and god knows its not because there isn't work that needs doing. Neither is there any shortage of willing hands - given the chance.

See Mary Portas's recent serial of programmes. Every week there someone weeping tears because of the death of the clothing industry and the relegating of the skilled workforce to idleness. The Tories watched and fucked over great companies like Viyella and celestion Wood where there was never any union problems.

I remember hearing two ladies who'd worked at Viyella saying how they could weep when they saw the crap quality that was on the shelves of marks and Sparks nowadays.

If you applauded Thatcher , Bluesman. You weren't a patriot. You didn't give a shit for your country. You weren't even a one nation tory.

Lots of tories were ashamed of what she did to the manafacturing industry in this country.

Quite frankly I'm surprised you weren't a Blair enthusiast.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Musket
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 11:54 AM

Bridge's life does seem tempting, the way he puts it. Pity such contentment still leads to so many eat the rich views. Must say though, I am more with Bridge than Willie on this one. (That'll cost me a pint next week, but hey ho.) Though of course, I don't recognise the party of the rich waffle, as every party is of the rich once you learn the ropes...

I don't hold a candle for Galloway. His appeasement of Saddam Hussein sent all the wrong signals and was almost as bad as Th*tcher's "my enemy is my enemy" appeasement of the monster. Galloway is right to shout foul over Bliar's lies to provoke war, but his rosy view of life in Iraq was as shameful.

That said, he became my hero when asked at the USA hearing how many times he had visited Saddam, and he said the same number of times as Dick Cheney, the difference being he wasn't selling him arms. Got to hand it to him, he had style. (I didn't look up the actual quote, but it was approximately that..)

No, protest votes are all well and good, but tend to be good for extremist viewpoints, and that sends the wrong signals too. Fascist parties rely on people's frustration with mainstream government and Galloway, whether he is comfortable with the notion or not, is propping up the mechanism that gives extremists the oxygen of publicity.

The bloody nose for all parties would send a message to any government, except perhaps this one?

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 11:47 AM

Bluesman really ought to stop all this shit about once supporting Labour, he's 200% tory and he knows it.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Old boy
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 11:41 AM

"... Brother, I brought you some silver, yeah.
I brought a little gold, I brought a little of everything
To keep you from the Galloway's Poll.
Yes, I bought you to keep you from the Galloway's Poll."

sing as much as you like, despite any bribes and corruption, the pesky bugger still won it and got in.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Silas
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 11:14 AM

I can't stand the bloke, but I had to admire him when he told the American congress men to get stuffed.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 10:54 AM

And I for one wish you health and happiness in your life Richard.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 10:20 AM

Erratum: Where I said "London politics" in my preceding post, I meant to say "London (and Great Lakes) politics".

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 10:17 AM

It wasn't Galloway who unseated Oonagh King but the Bethnal Green electorate. And I'd be interested to know on what basis John MacKenzie thinks she was an excellent MP unless it was that he knows little about London politics.

Gorgeous George did overdo the sycophancy in his encounter with Saddam, but in clinging to that moment John should also remember that many western politicians maintained cordial relations with Saddam even after he had perpetrated his most notorious atrocity, but before he had been downgraded from ally to monster. On the question of John's accusation that Galloway has a Lebanese wife, I'm afraid Galloway is guilty as charged.

The Bradford result was extraordinary, not least because Labour didn't see it coming, and were not remotely prepared for it even by the time the poll closed. Regardless of any questions about policy raised by this defeat, it is plain that something was drastically wrong with Labour's campaign management and intelligence.

In an article on the Labour-supporting Labour List website, John Mann MP, who helped canvass the constituency, said one of the main problems was the inability of Labour activists to communicate with Urdu-speaking voters. It might be useful if this re-opened a debate about multi-culturalism.

Galloway is an intelligent and homourable politician and I'm glad he's back in parliament. But his targeting of a specific issue in Bradford bordered on the cynical. The issue is that the constituency includes significant communities of Pakistani immigrants and their descendants who have resisted all encouragement to assimilate into the native society. They retain their own languages and endeavour to protect their children from "western values." Several years ago this gave rise to Bradford's "Honeyford affair" in which a headteacher was villifed as a racist for advocating assimilation, and which in turn gave rise to a salutory article by Theodore Dalrymple. Dalrymple's article still makes alarming reading, not least because so little has changed since it was written.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 09:58 AM

Dr Goebbels: workers strike when oppressed. Stop the oppression. Simples!

Mr Fluids - I get by. I know many with more money than I, and many with less, but my needs are simple - log fire, adequate wine, 3 Volvos, grumpy old medium sized dog, hi fi, big TV so I don't have to wear glasses to watch it, PA rig, decent internet access and about 17 guitars. I don't support a person of preferred gender and my kids are now better off than I so I don't need to subsidise them.   What I've never done is ground anybody down to get what I've got.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 09:46 AM

Labour was once the vioce of the man in the street, the factory worker, the coal miner and the Ford car plant worker. And where did that get them ?

Unions almost brought the country to it's knees, so Labour had to change and shake off the "out out out" brigade. Margaret sorted out the unions, Labour became "New Labour" bargain shelf Tories.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 09:24 AM

Why won't anyone listen to your demos in England. Same bloody reason asMP's just send you an automated reply - most of which ought to read 'Piss off mate! I've made it!'

You've got to be somebody. You need that quarter of a million to get to David to tell him why he should give you the keys to the treasury.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 08:53 AM

Weell no what the labour party produced was the NHS, the open University, Mobility Allowance for disabled people - ideas that were dissed by the Tories as unworkable. And frankly represent a decency that no Tory could aspire to.


The point is that Milibamd is Blair mk2 ( mk3 after Cameron) and TB had a great opportunity to clean the Augean stables after trouncing the Tories, and he blew it.

No electoral reform, the MI5/MI6 still up to dirty work at every level led by a gang of mad right wing ex etonians, 96% of the wealth uncirculated - so it stays in the hands of those who flogged all the jobs to the Japs, and now the Chinese.

Lets face it for all the reasons you think the tories are great. I think their greedy useless bastards, and TB should have dismantled their power bases good and proper. But he didn't. And neither will Miliband.


A bit like the folkscene....nothing will change. We're stuck with it. Our kids are stuck with it.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 08:32 AM

Well Galloway is a good example of the Labour Party produced.

As Alan pointed out above
"The Daily mail may be vile, but it DOES seem to have its finger of the pulse of tory support. Which still seems very solid.

So I suppose that means they've won. Game over. "

Give this government a chance, I think they are doing a great job. Support still very solid, yes I like that, very solid support.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 08:19 AM

Richard, this government which couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery have just organised a petrol shortage where there previously wasn't one, that's pretty bloody good.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Steaming' Willie
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 08:18 AM

If any government managed to get the average person as rich as Richard Bridge, they shall be classed as successful.

In the meantime, talk of parties or governments of the rich is little more than pitiful flat cap credentials from an ex Tory who claims to know what poorer people than him want.

Perhaps M'Unlearned friend wants the next Prime Minister to have credentials that include watching Cash in the Attic all day, shopping in their slippers and getting their baccy and papers from a bloke who goes to Calais every week in a dodgy old van?

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 08:01 AM

Lord Sutch for PM!!

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 07:04 AM

Talking about arses. George is the man who licked Saddam's backside.
He shamelessly exploited his Moslem credentials, one Moslem ex-wife, and his present (third) wife is Lebanese. He constantly harked back to TB's little Middle Eastern adventure, and the present fiasco in Afghanistan.
So all in all his connections, his history, and his TV celebrity were the ruling factors in his success IMHO. However it will give the established 3 cheeked arseholes, something to think about, which is no bad thing.
He did a similar thing in East London, and unseated an excellent sitting MP in the shape of Oonagh King. It didn't last though.
He will be gone again in 2015.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 06:48 AM

Quoth George: "If a backside could have three cheeks, then British politics is that three-cheeked backside."

Perfectly put. I'm hoping that this utter balls-up will be the kick up the Labour third of that arse that it needs. I mean, where are the bloody attack-dogs? Why didn't they see the danger and wheel every big gun into Bradford? If George can connect with the Muslim community why can't Labour? Labour are standing around with their fingers up their bums whilst the Tories are getting away with the most inept couple of weeks perpetrated by any party in the history of Man. Even George displayed a scintilla of guilt, saying that he didn't hate the Labour party and he wanted Labour to win the next election - and I believe him. I don't think even he anticipated the scale of this debacle.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 06:07 AM

Knowing them and liking them or even accepting their ways are different, Private. You kowtow to them. I don't.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 05:47 AM

"I think it's valuable to have someone who will actually take the fight to the Etonians,"

You boast enough here on every other thread of rubbing shoulders with them Richard.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 05:06 AM

I think it's valuable to have someone who will actually take the fight to the Etonians, but I'm worried that he may forget that ALL religions need to be controlled by rationality.

Don't forget, Al, that that POTR (the party of the rich) came well behind Labour, getting only about 2,700 votes - and the Limp-Dems lost their deposit. Both those are very encouraging signs.

And in general the press seems to have decided (and not before time) that GOTR (the government of the rich) could not organise a pissup in a brewery nor indeed in a champagne house.

You'd have expected wilfully dismantling the NHS would have been their poll tax but instead it seems to have been attacking the richer pensioners and inciting illegal hoarding of petrol. Funny old world.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 04:09 AM

Its hard to believe what's happened in English politics.

I think Blair managed to dislodge the last vestige of faith in Labour supporters (like myself) with the WMD scam.

What's worrying is that I don't see that level of disillusion from tories. The Daily mail may be vile, but it DOES seem to have its finger of the pulse of tory support. Which still seems very solid.

So I suppose that means they've won. Game over.

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 04:01 AM

Like his last victory it will only be temporary.
This man actually believes all the shite he talks about himself.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Galloway returns.
From: Acorn4
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 03:31 AM

I think if Screaming Lord Sutch was still with us, he'd get elected at the moment.

Subject: BS: Galloway returns.
From: akenaton
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 03:17 AM

Just when you thought it was safe to peek out from under the covers, George is back in front line politics.

Overturning a Labour majority of thousands George Galloway engineered a swing of 37% to take the seat of Bradford West and return in triumph to the House of Commons.
George is the greatest orator in politics, and as brave as they come, so look out for fireworks in the debating chamber.

George's message to the people of Bradford, which saw him elected?

DONT TRUST MAINSTREAM POLITICIANS!!......They are liars, warmongers, and hypocrits!.....................But we knew that...Didn't we???