BS: Santorum drops out of race

Subject: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 03:08 PM

Whew.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: GUEST,David E.
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 03:16 PM

Not that I am a Santorum supporter but I find this a little disappointing if only from the belief that an Obama-Santorum election would have at least been interesting. Obama- Romney? Dull dull dull. Congratulations President Obama on your reelection. (All of course IMHO)

David E.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Greg B
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 03:47 PM

The headline on CNN went "Santorum says his race is over." My first thought was "He only realized that now?" He was just too weird and erratic to even garner support here in his home state. Not that Romney is much better. Santorum was obviously strange and perhaps didn't care who knew it. Romney just seizes the rhetorical opportunity of the moment to appear rational to those who lack long-term memory.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: GUEST,999
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 04:03 PM

Long-term memory in this case being any recall after seven seconds flat.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 04:23 PM

" Obama- Romney? Dull dull dull."

Not at all! Romney will trot out 9 different positions on 17 different topics, and conservatives will employ 153 different rationalizations trying to keep up and say that anything Romney says is better than Obama.

It will be.... entertaining.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 04:26 PM

Yup, he did.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 04:28 PM

YAY!

And love the comments above!

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 04:31 PM

One less whacko to worry about.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 04:39 PM

What you need to worry about is the Oligarchic imperial system that trots out all those whackos for your stamp of approval (or not). And I'm not talking just about the Republicans. I'm talking about the entire system behind both parties....you know...the people who actually determine your nation's financial policies? He who controls the money supply controls everything. (and that's not Obama...or Romney...or any other stuffed shirt they choose to offer you)

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: gnu
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 04:48 PM

John stewart, Stephen Colbert, et al must be soooo disappointed! >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Greg F.
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 05:15 PM

Ah, but so many whackos, so little time.....

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: scouse
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 05:18 PM

Thank God!!!One idiot of the first order if you ask me.

As Aye,

Phil

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Charley Noble
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 05:43 PM

Rick, in my opinion, just couldn't stand the likelihood of losing to Romney in his home state of Pennsylvania. Whatever happened to his pledge to go down fighting?

It's too bad that Little Hawk isn't running as an alternative to Obama.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Stringsinger
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 06:00 PM

On this point, I support Little Hawk. Romney is merely a figurehead in a media horse race game. The Media is engaged in "weapons of mass deception". Don't look under the curtain at the System. The Democratic Party is turning into GOPlers. I don't know why they call it "the right wing". It's the wrong direction.

Sanctorum has emerged as the political "church lady" who feels a divine guidance
as does Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin who has stated that "God has a higher plan
for him". Guess what that would be?

As Mitt gets "unzipped" we will see an interesting horse race. SCOTUS will probably
get involved again as they did with Bush v. Gore. (There is precedent, here, now).

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 06:23 PM

Well, I think all USA presidents and presidential candidates are figureheads. I've thought so for a long time. You don't even get to run for that office, in my opinion, until you've already been bought and been given your script by those who paid for you. Once you're in office, you do what they scripted you to do...or else. I won't elaborate on what "or else" entails, but leave it to your imagination.

Obama is not an "or else" kinda guy...not when it comes to his own mortality. ;-) Neither is Romney. That makes both of them perfect for the media soap opera of an American election. They'll say whatever keeps the ball rolling, and whichever one of them gets elected, he'll do what he's been put there to do, which is cater to corporate and imperial agendas while blathering on about "freedom" to anyone who is foolish enough to listen...and to believe what he's saying.

American elections are the lengthiest and most costly in the world...a pity to see so much time and money wasted over what is a hollow charade. But that happens in many other countries too. They just have the sense not to make it last so damn long and cost so damn much.

It's a way of periodically renewing a vague sense of hope in a jaded and increasingly fearful and frustrated public...the hope that changing their political leaders will actually change the awful decline that is occurring in our economy and our political morals. Without that periodic false hope put tantalizingly in front of them, people in our so-called democracies might lose all belief in their leaders and launch a revolution. The elections are a way of forestalling that from happening. They keep offering false hope still one more time. And people reach for it like a drowning man reaching desperately for a thrown stick. Like a starving dog lunging for a bone...

I've been watching that electoral charade for a lifetime. I no longer believe in what it promises. But I do believe in myself, in the goodness of life, in the goodness of most people...and it is in those very ordinary things that I place my hopes, not in our false political systems or our corporate servant leaders...or their phony election campaigns.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 06:37 PM

Meanwhile, Gingerich and Paul hang in their with their delusions or whatever it is...

~ Becky in Long Beach

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 06:38 PM

s/b "...in there with their...", but I hope you firgured that owt.

~ B in LB

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Amos
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 07:07 PM

Little HaWK has a proclivity for the creation, animation, and discussion of large-scale fictitious elements--much like W did. As such it would be risky to run hoim for office. One day he'd sound perfectly normal if a bit flat-toned in the Canuck way, eh? And the next he'd be talking about the urgent need to defend this great land from alcoholic Easter Bunnies or some such. You just can't count on him not to slip into some not-very-parallel universe and start making decisions from it. I'm agin it.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 08:34 PM

"...whichever one of them gets elected, he'll do what he's been put there to do, ..."

Quote...POOH!.... unquote. The parties have a different basic approach.(saying nothing about individuals within the parties)

(27 lengthy paragraphs you wouldn't read anyway are implied here)

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 08:39 PM

The GUEST above was me.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Apr 12 - 09:06 PM

Ricky quit for one reason only... If he lost in Pa. his future in politics would be over...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 04:19 AM

Good riddance to another nutter, but can someone please arrange to bring rationality to state legislatures too?

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 06:57 PM

If he'd had the guts to drop out of a tall tree instead, like Chongo did, he'd have garnered considerably bigger headlines.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 07:34 PM

"...can someone please arrange to bring rationality to state legislatures too?"

Texas and South Carolina included? HA! I think some of their state constitutions make rationality a misdemeanor.

We have this concept of "State's Rights" which a number of states take to mean "We don't have to follow the Federal govt. unless it suits us!"

Imagine Suffolk and Staffordshire and Cornwall...etc., all claiming the right to ignore Parliament when it suits them.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Greg F.
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 09:03 PM

Some of their state constitutions make rationality a misdemeanor

Absolutely incorrect. Its a Class A Felony.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 10:03 PM

The state legislatures are great. Look at what you can learn!!!

In Arizona they are going to start planning your fucks in advance. I didn't know you could do that. When I was single that would have been great. The Arizona Magic Fuck Program might be a huge success. If you've missed it, the Arizona folks are passing a law so they can stop more abortions by declaring the "date of conception" as 2 weeks BEFORE the actual event! So if you show up for your scheduled fuck with proper protection you can skip the kid and just go for the good time.



Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Ron Davies
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 10:28 PM

I've tried manfully to resist being drawn into these endless and pointless political threads--but this is just too tempting.

"Good riddance to another nutter", etc.   Do none of you think?

Perhaps the poster is incapable of strategic thinking--or perhaps incapable of anything beyond jerking a knee.

As should be obvious, Santorum would have been a much weaker opponent for President Obama than Romney will be--especially since the election is likely to turn on the price of gas or some other economic aspect, rather than Santorum's "social issues";.

Even if Santorum had stayed in the race but still not become the GOP nominee, that would have helped Obama, since the friction between Romney and the ultra- conservative wing of the GOP would have continued.   What you want, if you think about it at all, is maximum bitterness towards Romney by "Tea Party" adherents etc--with the devoutly- wished-for outcome that conservatives stay home in the fall.

So sorry that no Dennis (Kucinich) ex machina is likely to rescue the "progressive" cause from the abominably moderate Obama.   In fact you ought to be careful what you wish for.    Outside Mudcat, Dennis is a one-way ticket to electoral oblivion.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Apr 12 - 11:14 PM

You're quite right, Ron...the Republican party machine figured on Romney all along right from the start, in my opinion, because he seems sort of vaguely middle-of-the-road enough to most people, therefore he is a far stronger opponent against Obama than an extremist idealogue like Santorum, whose views would scare off way too many people who are themselves sort of vaguely in the middle.

Romney is the perfect Republican marshmallow candidate (he's capable of fitting any aperture). Therefore, he's the guy they'll pick.

And Obama is his ideal counterpart, a very suitable marshmallow candidate for the Democrats who will also fit any aperture, and he's the incument anyway, so that takes care of that. I expect Obama will win, but you never know what can happen to swing people at the last minute.

Anyway, 2 phony marshmallows will run against each other for the 2 phony parties, and the great corporate oligarchy that funds the whole empty excercise for its own profits will win regardless which one of them gets elected, and things won't change much at all. There'll be more illegal wars and occupations, in all probability.

Perfect. ;-) Obama and Romney are exactly the right choice for a corporate-sponsored election. Either one will do just fine.

A genuine progressive like Dennis Kucinich couldn't possibly get elected president in the USA as it exists today (and ever since Ronald Reagan)...and the Democratic Party would NEVER pick a guy like him as their candidate. Never, never, never. Not a chance in a million.

I can't figure why you would even bring his name up in regards to the election. No one is going to "save the progressive cause" in America, not Dennis Kucinich and not anyone else either. It's dead on its feet. It has as much hope of surviving in your present fascist political order as a Jew had of surviving openly in Berlin in 1943. That means none at all. You don't have progressive politics in those 2 parties that govern you.

Obama is no progressive. Neither is Romney, needless to say. You're not going to see any progressives on that presidential ballot in 2012, not from either party, but you can pretend Obama is one if it makes you feel good.

I know you want Obama to win. So smile a big smile...cos I think he's going to. It won't change what America is doing to the Third World one iota. Your death squads and your paramilitary mercenaries in the various occupied lands will continue to kill the inhabitants who dare to resist their fascist presence. Your corporates will continue to ruthlessly exploit those lands. Poor people will die. Cruise missiles will fly. More lies will be told in your media. Money will be laundered. The farce will go on.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 04:58 AM

Santorum is not needed since Gingrich and Paul can carry on the internal destruction of the Repuglicans and pushing Romney to the unelectable right.

The loss of Santorum reduces the risks posed by state legislatures to, in particular, women's rights (vide the "Planned Fuck Law" as above, and the "Women are Cattle Law" elsewhere.

Big picture fully accounted for.

Subject: RE: BS: Santorum drops out of race
From: saulgoldie
Date: 12 Apr 12 - 06:21 AM

"John stewart, Stephen Colbert, et al must be soooo disappointed! >;-)"

Yup. And wasn't there a public discussion some time back that suggested that he was one of the least smart senators? A debate between him and Obama would have been a rout. Obama' mind and knowledge is a turbo-charged Porsche 911 to Santorum's 1967 VW Beetle. Or a .44 magnum to spitballs.

Saul