Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Stanron
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 06:34 PM

I have never previously experienced such an unpleasant outpouring of bile. I hope you all feel better.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: Peter the Squeezer
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 06:28 PM

So - the right honourable BITCH for Finchley has finally gone to meet her maker!

I should not, nor do I want to, celebrate anybody's death (with one exception, and we celebrated His death on Good Friday).

There is justice, if not in this world, then in the next.

Wherever you are, Margaret, if you by a very remote chance find any peace there, then may you rest in it! You ought to (by the standards of this world) be in the company of some kindred spirits - Pinochet, Botha, Stalin, Franco, Hitler, ....

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead (1925-2013)
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 06:24 PM

now looking forward to the announcement of the official date for the national day of dance

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Keef
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 06:11 PM

Whooo Hooooooo

Good riddance to the vile old trollop, crack the Champagne and PARTY ON!

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 06:05 PM

As a grocer's daughter she knew the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 04:48 PM

Possibly a more apposite quote

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,Harry
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 04:33 PM

Margaret Thatcher, Born 1925, died 2013. Sadly missed in Brighton 1984.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 04:03 PM

I believe the last Labour (sic) government was elected by about 13% of those eligible to vote.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 04:02 PM

Twitter comments today.
80% for, 20% against, according to BBC.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 03:22 PM

It's true, but it's a 'canard'...

Of course she got a significant amount of votes - but it just is not true to call that 'a majority', and it should never be allowed to stand. As you say, MtheGM, it is unheard of for a single party to get a majority (the nearest party to doing that was Labour in 1951 - and under the British electoral system it lost the election to the Tories, who got less.

To suggest that Margaret Thatcher managed to achieve that is to claim she achieved a much more impressive victory than she actually did, as it would be to claim that most voters backed Tony Blair.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 03:18 PM

I suppose as an ex miner my knees aren't what they used to be. So I hope her grave has a sprung dance floor.

For the last 28 years I have always ensured I have two bottles of champagne in the house just in case Scargill died on the same day and the offy was shut.

Privatise her funeral and give it to the lowest bidder. It's what she would have wanted.

She did nothing of good. And I speak as a dirty rotten capitalist as some would call me. I sold up and got out of industry, sold to a firm who offered the best continuity for my staff and havent been near a factory since. Because thanks to her policies there is no UK manufacturing industry. Or at least what is there is despite not because of her awful legacy. Enemy within? speak for yourself bitch.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 03:13 PM

I have always believed in not speaking ill of the dead so that leaves me with nothing to say.............!

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:59 PM

Obviously Megan L and Q were not affected by her policy of destroying our manufacturing base, her paranoid hatred of trade unions, destroying the coal and steel industries and with them whole communities.

Or maybe they just did rather well out of her ' greed is good ' policies.

Dave H

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,Eliza
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:58 PM

De mortuis nil nisi bonum...

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:56 PM

Capitalism demands that we remain competitive, you dont like the medicine dished out by Mrs Thatcher?.....then scrutinise the system.
You all support the Capitalist system, you should be praising her!

I have been a Communist all my life, so I fought and demonstrated against her policies, but I have to admit she was the consumate politician. Without her the system would have collapsed long before the recent financial crisis, which effectively means the end of Capitalism in the West.
Selling off the council property was a political masterstroke....overnight the soft left were shown for what they really are....Hypocrits.   They always want to have their cake and eat it too.

For me , the old tired Commie salutes one of the great politicians.... wish to Christ she had been on my side!

Rest in peace old woman......"The Iron Lady" has her place in history.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:44 PM

"at no time did Thatcher get anywhere near a majority of popular votes."
.,,.
One of those persistent canards. Not that it is untrue; but no government, under our first-past-the-post constituency system, is ever elected by a numerical majority of the entire electorate. Mrs Thatcher's actual numerical support was higher than most; and she served longer and won more elections than any other in C20.

The usual abusers are obviously enjoying their little games. Some might think such conduct not the most praiseworthy; but who would grudge them their simple pleasures, the little dears!

~M~

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:42 PM

Once again, I detect misogyny in some of the above posts.
The best thing that happened to Maggie, was Arthur Scargill, and yet people blame her, and not him.
No she wasn't my cup of tea, but she told it like it was, and she rescued this country from the clutches of the IMF.
The preceding Socialist (sic) Utopia, had left the dead unburied, and the bins unemptied.
Somebody had to clean the Augean stables.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Jim McLean
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:39 PM

This is from the film director Ken Loach.

Margaret Thatcher was the most divisive and destructive Prime Minister of modern times.

Mass Unemployment, factory closures, communities destroyed – this is her legacy. She was a fighter and her enemy was the British working class. Her victories were aided by the politically corrupt leaders of the Labour Party and of many Trades Unions. It is because of policies begun by her that we are in this mess today.

Other prime ministers have followed her path, notably Tony Blair. She was the organ grinder, he was the monkey.

Remember she called Mandela a terrorist and took tea with the torturer and murderer Pinochet.

How should we honour her? Let's privatise her funeral. Put it out to competitive tender and accept the cheapest bid. It's what she would have wanted.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:35 PM

I refuse to speak ill of the dead; but today I'll make an exception.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:35 PM

"The quiet majority" That is a libel on the British people, and one that often gets made. in fact at no time did Thatcher get anywhere near a majority of popular votes.

"She was a strong friend of the U.S. and her like is missed." The same goes for such people as Pinochet, Mubarek - and in his time Saddam Hussein...

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:35 PM

Who's up for a flashmob playing 'Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead' somewhere?
That post was offensive to witches.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: billybob
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:30 PM

I was just posing a quote from Ed Milliband, who also said that all three perty leaders had their lives influenced by her? I find all this hate very depressing , maybe I am old fashioned, I can remember all the above points, but I am always respectfull when someone dies for their family's sake.
As she was not born of wealth or status could some of these opinions be from sour grapes or envy? Or are all the above ex miners??

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 02:10 PM

Megan L, conservatives are naturally more reserved, hence few would post to or even see what is below the line at mudcat. As a result the posts are overloaded with left wing diatribe.

Margaret Thatcher served 11 years as prime minister. Her support came from the quiet majority.

She was a strong friend of the U.S. and her like is missed.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 01:27 PM

At least this thread provides a bit of balance for the unctuous and evasive tributes on the BBC, and undoubtedly in the press

When a person dies at an advanced age someone always says "Don't mourn the death, celebrate the life". With Margaret Thatcher it's the other way round. No point in celebrating her death, every point in mourning the life that preceded it.

She had some impressive qualities. That was what enabled her to do so much harm. She set us on a path that we are still going down today, and "down" is the right word.
She didn't do it on her own, any more than Pinochet or Mussolini did. The real blame lies with the people who cheered her on, and even more with the Blair machine that consolidated her "achievements".

The other thing people say when someone dies is "We shall not look upon their like again". Please God that is true of Margaret Thatcher.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Rog Peek
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 01:23 PM

"Funeral organised and funded by the private sector!" - What a great idea, any suggestion that me as a tax payer should be a party to funding such an event would really stick in my craw!

Rog

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Rog Peek
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 01:12 PM

Yessssssss!

Rog

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:59 PM

not just round the cat, there are a lot of people in different countries who detested her., if you do not like other peoples opinions on the cat the best thing is to not visit the cat
   I will be happier when social democratic policies are put into effect in England and here in ireland, her policies and the policies being dictated by the imf and the ecb at the present moment are not efficient or humanitarian ways to run the capitalist system, people need money to buy goods, austerity measures[imo] only lengthen recession.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:56 PM

She was a good, tough, moderate conservative, and did a good job in a time of global monetary upset.

I disagreed with her defence of the Malvinas; they should have been returned graciously to Argentina.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Megan L
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:39 PM

May you all go the same way and so mourned I didnt like the woman but the unmittigated hatred around the cat these days is sickening.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: goatfell
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:34 PM

best thing she ever did, good riddance happy days are here again

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:08 PM

Why praise Thatcher for being strong enough to stick to her principles although you disagree with them?

No "praise" in my post, I can assure you - merely that, with her, one knew exactly where one's enemy stood and where the battle lines were drawn.

By contrast, I voted for Tony Blair and felt a huge rage - utterly let down - when he started to show himself in his true colours.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 12:03 PM

Just googling around, this headline made me laugh out loud! Perfect.

Guardian - Sunny Hundal

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,CS
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:58 AM

Chumbawumba @ Sidmouth

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:52 AM

Always thought Tony Blair was a Son Of Thatcher, Lizzie ;)
The present incumbent is more like one of her famous "Wets"

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:39 AM

The Radio Ballads:

'Ballad Of The Miner's Strike'


Sadly, Will, she's not 'gone', for her clones remain...and Son Of Thatcher is about to bring the same kind of trauma to The People as the woman he so idolized did....

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:36 AM

How does one show proper respect for Margaret Thatcher?

You could paraphrase Francis Urquhart: "You might want to sing 'Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead'; I couldn't possibly comment."

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:33 AM

Aye, the last conviction politician is dead. Those we have now bend with the wind. Funny how we admire someone who stands up for their beliefs, only when we share those beliefs.
She won the one war she was involved in. That's more than we can say about Iraq, or will be able to say about Afghanistan.
Not a believer, but I wouldn't lower myself to rejoice at her passing.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Jim McLean
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:29 AM

Why praise Thatcher for being strong enough to stick to her principles although you disagree with them? Stalin or even Hitler comes to mind ...
She was a strong willed nasty person who caused and is still causing dreadful pain and suffering to mankind. Remember her what she was, a vicious, greedy woman whose son profited immensely from an arms deal she did with the Saudies. May she roast in Hell unless, of course, they've run out of coal!

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Greg F.
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:17 AM

And not a minute too soon.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 11:09 AM

billybob "Show respect".

Why? What respect did she ever show to the rest of the human race? Have you forgotten the way she crushed the miners, or the way she ordered the Belgrano sank - in contravention of the rules of engagement which her own government had established?

Perhaps you've forgoten the time when she held up Pinochet's plane, so that she could give a Spanish armada cannon ball as a token of gratitude for the help that "he" gave "us" in crushing the Argentinians? Yes, the same General Pinochet who staged one of the bloodiest coups in history, when he overthrew the constitutionally elected goverment of Chile and murdered around 30,000 of its people?

Could it be also that you've forgotten the millions who were driven onto the dole by her insane policies? Or maybe you've forgotten the poll tax? Or maybe you've just forgotten the plot.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,Jon Heslop
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 10:51 AM

I, like others, hated and detested her, her party and all that she stood for. As someone who witnessed the effects of her blind dogma on the people of South Wales during the Miners' strike of '84-'85 I can never forgive her or her party for all the suffering caused by her blind passion to destroy trades unionism across Britain. Nor can I ever reconcile myself to subsequent governments of either hue turning their faces away from the pain they caused. It is well to remember that it was the administration of her successor John Major who pushed through most of the privatisation programme that she initiated. Once she was out of power the hawks in the Tory party took advantage of their leader's weak and ineffectual grip on power (he was probaly to busy with Edwina Curry) to sell off the family silver to their friends and /or the highest bidders. Not one penny of that did anything to make our lives better.
They're probably building bonfires in Toypandy Squre even as we speak and I for one would gladly go and warm my hands at them. No tears here either.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: billybob
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 10:50 AM

Quote from Ed Milliband " Show respect"

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,Fred McCormick
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 10:23 AM

Here's the very last scene from the very last episode of Spitting Image .

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 10:12 AM

Like Dead Horse I detested her and her policies - but at least she had the guts to be open about them, unlike the weasel Blair. She's dead - let her go.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Dead Horse
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 10:00 AM

I detested the woman, but she was far stronger and more honourable than any that have followed in her place.
Oh, and Harry - allowing murdering terrorist scum to kill themselves by not taking food is not murder - but releasing them back into the community to offend again probably is.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Leadfingers
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 09:22 AM

I never had any time for her , her policies , nor her Party , but it seems unneccessary to be any more vitupertative about her now she has passed on

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 09:20 AM

Because of her this country is in the death grip of the neo-liberal free market, and now the poor and the environment (why have we forgotten about that?) are paying the price.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: John Routledge
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 09:04 AM

Thatcher's legacy is well and truly with us. Take whatever you can.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 09:03 AM

No tears this end.

Subject: RE: Obit: Margaret Thatcher Dead
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 08 Apr 13 - 09:03 AM

Sadly her Tory scum-spawn live on. But a good day for smiling all the same. We WILL represent the Lollipop Guild!