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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Nick Date: 22 Apr 14 - 01:23 PM After the way they did my drive? (And all the lucky heather died) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: GUEST,Triplane Date: 22 Apr 14 - 05:02 PM I was going to make an abusive post on Mudcat Mirror then i realised it was going to be self abuse, at least id be amongst equals? Signor J Kerr |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: selby Date: 22 Apr 14 - 05:19 PM adhesive posts are very sticky Keith |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Ed T Date: 22 Apr 14 - 05:24 PM Some mudcat mods suck! Any argument, or are they infallible and immune to abuse/favouritism themselves (after all, special folks and their friends, deserve special consideration- not a unique concept in any society?. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Ed T Date: 22 Apr 14 - 05:41 PM Oops, maybe that last post is not accepted in a permanent abuse thread? Just in case someone dies not understand, and us offended, it is intended as humour- following the general slant of previous posts. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Joe Offer Date: 22 Apr 14 - 06:49 PM Musket sez (22 Apr 14 - 07:50 AM): See the moderators' list of people I am not allowed to swear at... Gee, I wasn't aware of such a list, but then I don't do that sort of moderation any more. My instructions are to use only my humor, my wisdom, and my gentle spirit. But then, that might be a good idea, Musket. We could make it binding for Steve Shaw and a few others, too. Let's see....
Instead of deleting comments, we could just move them into the catch-all abuse thread. Gee, the idea has real merit, ya know. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Nick Date: 22 Apr 14 - 07:22 PM >>Instead of deleting comments, we could just move them into the catch-all abuse thread. Gee, the idea has real merit, ya know. And then we could just be AWFUL to them with the blessing of Mudcat? Hey Joe (where you going with that gnu in your hand?) you seem like our sort of guy as well. I'm warming to the thought of keeping going now. I was flagging earlier with the old vitriol thing. Especially as I was struggling to be unpleasant to the visitors to the thread so far because I rather like some of them.. I think I reserve the right to swear at Keith as he told me (along with everyone else) to 'Fuck off' earlier but I might not bother. I've forgiven Dave the Gnomist as I took it as a witty aphorism. That Steve Shaw though - he was definitely bigger than 4'3" so I'm not sure I can believe anything he says now. Moving things on a bit, Joe... Perhaps as you placed the deleted comments here you could also post their email addresses and we could spam the shit out of them for a bit of extra sport? And if they have a web site perhaps all the good guys could get together and organise a denial of service attack in an atmosphere of jolly bonhomie? Serve the bastards right for spoiling stuff. Perhaps a trial run tomorrow? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Nick Date: 22 Apr 14 - 07:25 PM Ed T - Fuck the mods I say. I was always always on the side of the rockers. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Ed T Date: 22 Apr 14 - 08:00 PM "ED, YOU MORON, you are not understanding the point of the thread." Maybe you should have pre-registered this concept with the mods , Nick. So they would delete humour with acbit more caution. Odd that they delete humour, and leave plenty of the nasty personal insult stuff up. Go figure? "Fingers on their triggers", kinda stuff. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Apr 14 - 12:39 AM Nick sez (22 Apr 14 - 07:22 PM): Hey Joe (where you going with that gnu in your hand?) you seem like our sort of guy as well. Gnu, what do you have to say about that? and again...And then we could just be AWFUL to them with the blessing of Mudcat? With apologies to Eliza and others who may think I stereotype Brits too much, let me say that this "with the blessing of Mudcat" idea seems to be a British way of thinking. Please remember that although we have many members in the British Isles, Mudcat is located in the United States. In the US, we take no responsibility for what other people say on the media we provide - in general, the speakers are the ones who are considered to be responsible, not the media that host the speakers...although radio and television stations can be fined if they fail to "bleep" out the sound when speakers say "fuck." Never could figure that out, but I guess some senator thought that saying "fuck" was a really terrible thing that might bring about the judgment of the Almighty or something.... But anyhow, Mudcat does not "bless" anything posted here. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Big Al Whittle Date: 23 Apr 14 - 01:17 AM this is more like temporary abuse....you don't get that sinking feeling. its actually much better.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: GUEST,Musket Date: 23 Apr 14 - 01:30 AM You are behind the times Joe. You aren't the only one to contact me about my detestation of hate propaganda. Incidentally, I'd check up on your statement about USA based websites and free speech if I were you. They form the basis of evidence presented in many terrorism cases and right now, the extradition warrant that your country used to get a wanted terrorist from our prisons to your federal courts included incitement to hate on websites based in The USA. Agreements between our law enforcement agencies mean our police can ask yours to obtain IP addresses and vice versa. Spooky and big brother. But there again, so is seeing sections of society as second class. Actually you aren't on the list. It seems I could tell you to get fucked just as easily on here as over a glass of zin. I just can't upset those hell bent on upsetting others. I have to say that I disagree with them or some such nonsense. A pity. I disagree with celery. I disagree with some government policies. I accept that some people like celery. I accept that governments can't please all the time. Hate and bigotry are in a different league. No excuse for it, see. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Nick Date: 23 Apr 14 - 03:08 AM >>Nick sez (22 Apr 14 - 07:22 PM): Hey Joe (where you going with that gnu in your hand?) you seem like our sort of guy as well. Gnu, what do you have to say about that? Gothcha. On purpose I'm afraid, Joe. For me it was a lovely image. I'm not sure it would have scanned quite so well or been such a hit for Hendrix. Perhaps he might have gone on to play Wilde Beest rather than Wild Thing? His whole career might have taken a different turn (perhaps started wearing women's clothing and recording Purple Hose?) If my tongue was any further in my mouth it would be dangerously close to looking like a BJ My intrinsic gravitas seems to have been liberated on this thread when I embraced hatred. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 23 Apr 14 - 03:15 AM Well, since this is an 'Abuse Lite' thread, we surely don't need to go into all that Musket. Just abuse somebody in a really fun yet highly abusive way and we can retaliate with an abusively amusing riposte. Rather like my husband, who's just starting to learn 'banter'. I'm afraid he greets his colleagues on arrival at work with, "Am f****** ouell dis moaning. How are you f****** doin', mate?" Luckily they fall over laughing. He'd do quite well on this thread I imagine! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Joe Offer Date: 23 Apr 14 - 03:45 AM Musket sez (23 Apr 14 - 01:30 AM) Incidentally, I'd check up on your statement about USA based websites and free speech if I were you. They form the basis of evidence presented in many terrorism cases and right now, the extradition warrant that your country used to get a wanted terrorist from our prisons to your federal courts included incitement to hate on websites based in The USA. Musket, is it so hard for you to understand what I say? Yes, of course the person posting is responsible in the US for "incitement to hate" (although what you appear to see as "incitement" would be ignored in the US). However, the fact that it's posted wherever, does not imply that the place where it's posted gives its blessing to the post. -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Apr 14 - 03:52 AM I always liked the Aussie cricket captain phrase. "Which of you bastards called this bastard a bastard?" I think I will start to use my former religious acclamation as a sign off. Well, on this thread anyway. Bollocks DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Jim Carroll Date: 23 Apr 14 - 03:57 AM Swearing during these disputes has become a bit of a red-herring really. Being a great fan of Rochester's poetry and Burns's 'Merry Muses', I've never had a great problem with it and a lifetime of working on the docks and on building sites has shown me that it is largely, as Eliza describes it, "banter". Some words I do find offensive (one in particular), not because it is "swearing" but because it is offensively sexist. The problem I do have with is in it's overuse, which makes it ineffectual in making a point. I believe some of the protagonists in recent arguments who are now protesting about "swearing", are using it as a defence of their own views, ad really 'protesteth too much' Here in Ireland, a fairly common phrase used in banter is "feckin' hoor' often used in admiration - crooked politician, Charles Haughey was often referred to as "a cute feckin' hoor" by those who admired his ability as a crook. An extremely religious elderly publican here in Clare often referred to us customers as a "bunch of feckers". One night, she protested at a somewhat inebriated drinker' language, and when we pointed out that she called us "feckers" - she look ed puzzled and said, "I thought it meant feckless". Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Apr 14 - 04:08 AM Agreed, Jim. I Mrs Doyle's line in "Father Ted" when refering to a lady writer she did not like. "It's all feckin' this and feckin' that and she even uses the F word!" When we were looking for a place to eat in Listowel I was approached by a staggering Irishman who's greeting was "Your a fuckin' Englishman aren't you?" and then proceeded to tell us how much he liked the English and offered to buy us all a drink. We declined as we only wanted a cafe but he delayed my son, around 14 at the time, and gave him a 10 punt note saying "I know your dad would not take it so you buy them all a drink". True story of harmless swearing. :D tG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Musket Date: 23 Apr 14 - 04:20 AM I spent my apprenticeship and early working years as a miner. What I found normal then but in retrospect interesting, is that someone who was "fucking this, fucking that, fucking fuck, Ah, that's a good cup of fucking tea..." never used the F word once they left work and returned home. It seemed to be a work language, and we all tended to use it. Reminds me of a comic on the telly recently speaking of a football match he was at where a fan stood up and shouted "Fucking Boo!" Eliza, you are right. However, it isn't polite not to reply to something someone says to me. Hence my reply to Joe. Now I've said it though..... Fuck ''im. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Jim Carroll Date: 23 Apr 14 - 05:24 AM "harmless swearing." I think harmful swearing is a very rare animal - expletives are usually for emphasis rather than offence - even the one I take offence to, which doesn't make it any the less sexist. My favourite story was told by a local clergyman at a dinner with friends here A trainee in a seminary was walking the grounds and as he climbed a stile he fell face down on the muddy ground. He leapt up, brushing himself of as said, "Oh feck!", then paused and thought and said, "Shit, I said feck", then, "Feck, I said shit". Then, walking off, he said, "Ah, bollocks, I didn't want to be a priest anyway". Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Jim Carroll Date: 23 Apr 14 - 05:25 AM That's the word Muskie Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Apr 14 - 05:28 AM Was that your imitation or Red Dwarf's Kryten trying to say "Smeg Head", Musket? If so, in the spirit of this thread, it was crap. Bollocks DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 23 Apr 14 - 05:34 AM 'Swearing' can be very funny. It's only unacceptable when there's an underlying deliberate intention to insult in a cruel or racist way. I can never understand people who don't like Billy Connelly merely because he uses the 'f' word (and others) a lot. IMO he's extremely funny, and anyone who's lived in Glasgow (as I have for many years) knows that no harm is meant at all by expletives.art of everyday life. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Musket Date: 23 Apr 14 - 05:45 AM Eliza. Mr Connolly also said how the word is very descriptive and leaves you with no sense of ambiguity. He said, "You never read the line "Fuck off!" He hinted." Dave. It was a Red Dwarf, not a Red Gnome. Funnily enough, I wasn't thinking of that at the time. It is obviously somewhere in the ancient memory bank, but so is reading Minnie the Minx in The Beano. Her parents were remembering her first words, sat in her high chair. She said MMMMM. "Oh! look! She is going to say Mummy!" DDDDDDD. "No" he said, "it is going to be Daddy. MMMM. MORE DUMPLINGS!!!!!!!! I'm sure that was the intention of my id..... Bollocks yourself. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Nick Date: 23 Apr 14 - 05:51 AM >>Some words I do find offensive (one in particular), not because it is "swearing" but because it is offensively sexist. Tell it to my dyslexic friend Cnut who has been banned from more forums than I can remember. It's the problem of having parents with a passion for ancient history. Big beer drinker too. (Hence the question "Firkin, Cnut?") A friend of my wife had a young daughter who was playing upstairs when she heard what she thought was her daughter swearing inappropriately out of frustration. "What did you say?" she shouted upstairs "Don't worry mummy," her daughter called back innocently "I didn't say 'fuck' " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Nick Date: 23 Apr 14 - 06:07 AM I'm thinking that this could be working I'm thinking of changing my Mudcat name to: THE RAPIST And spread more therapy amongst the fallen and the struggling. Perhaps a TV career (that's television not the getting cross about dressing thing) beckons - "The rapist'll fix it" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Musket Date: 23 Apr 14 - 06:17 AM I don't recall Kryton developing an oil leak as a result either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: gnu Date: 23 Apr 14 - 06:24 AM What do I have to say about that, Joe? I don't think there is anything wrong with having left over lasagna for breakfast. I wish there was more because, even straight from the fridge, this is deeeelicious! Anybody got a problem with that? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Apr 14 - 06:29 AM left over lasagna for breakfast. ??? In the fridge ???? Yes I do have a problem with that! Bloody foreigners. What's wrong with good old English kebabs left congealing on the coffee table overnight or day old pizza found under the cushion of the settee? Bollocks DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: gnu Date: 23 Apr 14 - 06:31 AM Oh my. Oh dear. That WAS a paltry attempt. Must be the lasagna and tea. Allow me to atone. AHEM! Fuck St. George! There. That should suffice on more than one level. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Dave the Gnome Date: 23 Apr 14 - 06:40 AM Fuck St. George! He'd enjoy that. He was some sort of middle eastern poofter wasn't he? Bollocks. DtG |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Musket Date: 23 Apr 14 - 06:43 AM Yeah, fuck him and all Turks for that matter. He'd never get a visa to live in England that St George bloke. My Granddad says they sell you dirty postcards in the bazaars too. Hanging's too good for them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: johncharles Date: 23 Apr 14 - 07:14 AM I use elixir nanoweb guitar strings light .012-.053. john |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Ed T Date: 23 Apr 14 - 07:19 AM I take it you are not an orangeman, gnu? :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: MGM·Lion Date: 23 Apr 14 - 08:43 AM Re the Billy Connolly quote above; I am trying to remember the source of one of my favourite quotations -- ==="Shut up," he explained.=== ~M~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: MGM·Lion Date: 23 Apr 14 - 08:45 AM Remembered -- it was the great Ring Lardner. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Musket Date: 23 Apr 14 - 08:50 AM I like that :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Ed T Date: 23 Apr 14 - 09:08 AM ?..the great Ring Larder Beetle? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: MGM·Lion Date: 23 Apr 14 - 09:12 AM Drift ~~ not really abusive; but I always associate that quote with Damon Runyon's, "She decares she will not associate with any man who makes his living from the demon rum ... Miss Clarabelle Cobb comes of very religious people back in Akron, Ohio, and she is taught from childhood that rum is a very terrible thing, and personally I think it is myself, except in cocktails"... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: GUEST,Eliza Date: 23 Apr 14 - 09:24 AM Re swearing, (I've already posted this story on another thread, but it seems relevant here too!) My sister was on a small village bus in Perthshire, heading for Dundee. A very posh chap got on with a small girl. He told the wee lass to sit down, but she "No, stupid, I want to sit over there!" He admonished her with. "Don't say 'stupid' dear, it's very rude!" She replied loudly, "No Daddy, stupid's not very rude. FUCK is rude!" Passengers giggling all the way to Dundee! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: gnu Date: 23 Apr 14 - 09:57 AM Ed... "I take it you are not an orangeman, gnu?" Correct, and, I bear no ill will to any even though I painted over the orange (bottom half) siding of my house a couple of weeks after I moved in. Guess what colour. Oddly enough, the Baptists next door made rude comments. The lady (?) of the house said that it was dreadful and that they would help me paint if I got some white paint. Fuck the Baptists. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Musket Date: 23 Apr 14 - 10:18 AM In a rather busy restaurant on holiday many years ago, my then six or seven year old youngest wouldn't eat something on his plate. I did the Dad thing and quietly but angrily through gritted teeth told him to stop showing us up and asked him why we won't eat it. "It tastes like runny poo!" Came the loud answer followed by tears. I started to imagine what could have happened next Dear social services, My son speaks from fantasy. At no point has he ever been in a position to our knowledge to have any idea as to the taste, texture or vitamin content of runny poo. Yours, Musket. Circa 1990..... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: GUEST,# Date: 23 Apr 14 - 10:28 AM "Fuck the Baptists." Don't do so standing up. Someone might think you're dancing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Ed T Date: 23 Apr 14 - 10:45 AM I spray- tinted my hallween pumpkins green. Oliver Cromwell, old ironsides, was neither a considerate, nor tolerant fellow. He has no place in trying to post (from beyond) on this thread, to protest against the green movement - which he seems to mis-understand. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Ed T Date: 23 Apr 14 - 10:47 AM 98 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Ed T Date: 23 Apr 14 - 10:53 AM ...the little green wheels are following... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Jim Carroll Date: 23 Apr 14 - 11:28 AM "Re swearing" A sweet little five-year-old girl living next to a building site would go off each morning and watch the men working, through the fence. One day, one of them spotted her, brought her on to the site and they clubbed together, bought her a little pink boiler suit, a safety helmet and a tiny spade and bucket gave her a heap of sand to dig in. At the end of the week, they presented her with a little envelope with £1 in it for her wages. When she took it home her mother said, "That's very nice dear, will you be working there next week?" She replied, "It all depends whether those gobshites at the builders Merchants make their delivery on time". Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: gnu Date: 23 Apr 14 - 11:43 AM Wow! 100 posts already... faster than a speeding gun thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Jim Carroll Date: 23 Apr 14 - 12:19 PM Damn - 101 then Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Can we have a Permanent abuse thread From: Nick Date: 23 Apr 14 - 12:41 PM Do you feel we are perhaps being too nice to each other? Given the people conversing and your truly TERRIBLE reputations that I had heard about the wheels should have fallen off a whole fleet of buses by now and we should be in turmoil. I'll think on the way home as to how I can stir things up a bit. Gnu - You're a gnu, how do you do? by the way. I now have a vision of you and Joe Offer hand in hand which is even more curious than the previous one. |
