BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: meself
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 08:33 PM

I insist that my food be organic and my sex orgasmic. Or is it the other way around ... ? Anyway - I insist!

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 08:26 PM

I eat anything and everything except for apple sauce, which is thoroughly disgusting. Because there is that one thing I can't stomach, I understand vegetarians who say they can't stand the texture of meat, etc,. but vegetarians of any other sort are as deluded as God-botherers. Vegetarianism on the grounds of being nasty to animals is entirely irrational. The whole of nature is predicated on animals eating animals at certain points in food chains. But as we're creatures of conscience it's entirely appropriate that we pay attention to animal welfare. I want all my meat to be free-range, preferably organic if I can afford it. But, at the end of the day, for two, add 300g orecchiette pasta to a large pan of boiling salted water. It will need 11-13 minutes. Meanwhile, heat a big glug or two of olive oil in a pan and add two cloves of finely-chopped garlic (not crushed), 10 halved cherry tomatoes, a chopped up chilli and a big handful of chopped fresh parsley. Salt and pepper to taste. Simmer. Two minutes before the pasta is al dente, throw two large handfuls of broccoli florets (tenderstem for choice, but hey) into the pasta pan. When the pasta is al dente, drain it but retain a cupful of the pasta water. Mix the tomato sauce in with the pasta/broccoli mix, see whether you think it needs to be slackened with a bit of the pasta water (it does) and serve in big bowls. There you go. As vegan as can be. By far the most satisfying vegan dish I've ever made, and I make this one a lot. I have to keep stuffing my luggage with orecchiette every time I come back from Italy. Tonight we had tuna with capers, parsley, garlic and creme fraiche with gigli pasta. Tomorrow it's home-made mackerel pate with ciabatta, Westcountry Brie, Montagnolo affine and Bath Blue cheeses and some lovely Sicilian olives.

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: Jack Campin
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 07:15 PM

I have been to MANY gatherings where it was stated up front that all food was to be vegetarian. The KlezNorth weekend klezmer event does it because they can expect a fair number of the attendees to be Jewish of various degrees of observant-ness, as well as some actual vegetarians, so it's a simple compromise. (Doesn't help me a lot as my religion involves continual sacrifices to a cardiac stent and a wheat allergy). You would find the same at events where you might expect a number of Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus or Rastas.

This is not some new fad, it's been routine at least since the 1970s. Most people have had most of a lifetime to get used to the idea.

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: GUEST,McMusket
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 07:00 PM

Funnily enough, I have no friends by the name of Dorothy, but the label seems to be attached.

One of the other Muskets once pointed out, when a lady started getting rather attached to me at a conference, that I "bowl from the pavilion end."

Regarding the op. Respecting cultures is a two way thing. We have utensils, plates, pans, a BBQ etc that is only used for halal meat as we have many Muslim friends. That said, I am aware of course that those who take their faith seriously have an inbuilt problem with Kris and I being a gay couple, but respect being what it is, they don't preach religious bigotry as our guests and we don't, despite the fantasy of one particular nasty sod on Mudcat and his lies, try to fuck them.

Being offended can be offensive if you don't keep your trap shut...

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 06:58 PM

IMHO, if you're going to host a potluck, you accept whatever people are willing to contribute. If a dish is not part of your diet, don't eat it. If you want to control the menu, provide the food yourself.

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 06:47 PM

'she who must be omnivorous' Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: meself
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 06:38 PM

Who or what is a 'friend of Dorothy' (a little dog? a tin man? a scarecrow? a cowardly lion?) and why?

I think swmbo is 'she who must be omnivorous', isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 06:25 PM

Imagine the prohibition was not as to food, but as to sex. Would the OP be expected not to kiss is G/F, because it might disgust? Would a gay attendee be expected not to kiss same sex partner because it might disgust?

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 06:08 PM

Thanks #

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: GUEST,#
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 05:34 PM

Doug, I think swmbo means 'she who must be obeyed'. I may be corrected on that.

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 05:29 PM

I take it, then, that this is a potluck party where guests bring food?

I've been married to an off-and-on vegan for 13 years, so I'm kinda used to this stuff. I've been to potluck parties where everybody has to bring a full list of ingredients of their contributions.

Don't think I've ever been to a party where animal products are completely forbidden, but I have been overwhelmed by the food fussiness at some gatherings I've attended. I stay away from the ones that make me really feel uncomfortable.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 05:27 PM

If they specified no dead animals, and you want to be a real prick, bring oysters.

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 05:18 PM

You can't make it through one evening without eating meat? A lot of vegetarian fare is pretty tasty.
Another option is to eat before hand.

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 05:13 PM

I'm easily confused, so perhaps you could explain a couple of points:

So, the swmbo and I ...   What does "swmbo" srtand for?

If the hosts are providing the food, they can limit it to vegetarian/vegan by what they choose to serve. Why do they have to specify "no dead animals"? Are they expecting guests to bring their own?

Does the "no dead animals" restriction stretch to leather shoes and the like?

Finally, I can follow the discussion of eating habits, but where does the second half of the thread title come in?

DC

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 05:03 PM

I think it might be hard not to swat mosquitoes...

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: GUEST,#
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 04:57 PM

I re-read the OP thanks to Jack's comment. Seems you have two choices.

1) Extend regrets, etc, etc.
2) Bring vegan food to cook and add cheese to it, unless they are.
'no animals or animal products' people in which case forget the cheese.

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: Jack Campin
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 04:12 PM

It seems like it's the party hosts who are the vegetarians.

I don't think you have any right to disgust them. Just stay away if you can't go a whole evening without meat.

Subject: RE: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: GUEST,#
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 02:45 PM

Yes.

Simply inform them that you will have both vegan dishes and meat dishes, and you'll not be mixing the two at the same table. Put the ball back in their court as to whether or not they're coming.

Subject: BS: Eating habits cf Sexual habits
From: GUEST, Poxicat
Date: 02 Jul 15 - 02:38 PM

I'm not taking TOO much effort to hide who I am, but, mods, please do not unmask me as the hosts of the party I am about to discuss might turn up here.

So, the swmbo and I have been invited to a party. In the 1920s, she would not have been invited, because she is of Afrikan descent. In the 1940s, if she were male, she would not have been invited because a "friend of Dorothy" was only invited to the most avant-garde places.

This is different - a number involved with the party are strict vegetarians, and I have been told that it's very simple, no dead animals on the premises.

Well, I'm not trying to force others to eat meat or fish. And I've been to and attended a number of BBQs that provide a separate BBQ for vegetarians or observes of halal or kosher ritual. I've been to one BBQ where there was in attendance a chap so allergic to fish that the table cloth on which I prepared and served a fish dish (well away from the chap in question) had to be burned after use.

Does "No dead animals on the premises" strike anyone as a bit intolerant?