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BS: Las Vegas - 59 dead so far

olddude 02 Oct 17 - 01:48 PM
olddude 02 Oct 17 - 01:46 PM
Vashta Nerada 02 Oct 17 - 01:34 PM
Donuel 02 Oct 17 - 01:33 PM
beardedbruce 02 Oct 17 - 01:25 PM
mg 02 Oct 17 - 01:19 PM
Jack Campin 02 Oct 17 - 12:47 PM
olddude 02 Oct 17 - 12:34 PM
olddude 02 Oct 17 - 12:27 PM
Bee-dubya-ell 02 Oct 17 - 12:02 PM
Nigel Parsons 02 Oct 17 - 11:20 AM
Big Al Whittle 02 Oct 17 - 10:59 AM
Mrrzy 02 Oct 17 - 08:43 AM
Donuel 02 Oct 17 - 08:30 AM
Jim Carroll 02 Oct 17 - 08:23 AM
Stilly River Sage 02 Oct 17 - 08:18 AM
Will Fly 02 Oct 17 - 07:55 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: olddude
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 01:48 PM

Blame guns and the killing still goes on or try to figure out the problem now in this society.. Carry on I no longer wish to discuss it


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: olddude
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 01:46 PM

Don with all due respect
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DDon't know me and talking about something
YYou don't know
AAbout
And jack go back under your rock
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Hear a wword Isaid


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Vashta Nerada
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 01:34 PM

At the risk of pedantry, the total is now 58 dead and over 500 wounded (515 taken to hospitals). In the overnight hours someone was able to start comparing notes. What a grim job for that scorekeeper.


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 01:33 PM

Old Dude, some would call you deranged because you have more guns than people in YOUR HOUSE. The same is true for all your guns are fun, friends. YES there is something off with anyone who has multiple guns even if they claim "But I kill animals with them!".

I know PTSD folk and they have to have any kind of weapon to feel calm and safe even if its only a knife on a keychain.
Understand I am not attacking you or Rap I am attacking a condition slight or severe.

Oftimes the more defensive the more sick.

When the thought of sacrificing any of your guns -scares or angers you- for the greater good, it is a sign you are a little off.
Most commonly in veterans.


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 01:25 PM

Big Al Whittle,

"t will be interesting to know at what point the law was broken. thirty seconds before the assassin opened fire - was he still within the law, and within his rights? "


When he illegally obtained fully automatic weapons ( ie, without a Class III permit) he was in violation of the law, and had committed a crime.

When he fired those weapons. he was committing another crime.


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: mg
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 01:19 PM

Maybe the concierge is a veteran trained as a sniper. Maybe the woman who vacuums the rooms is a veteran trained as a sniper. Maybe the visiting auditor is a veteran trained as a sniper. Maybe they could have taken him out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Jack Campin
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 12:47 PM

Stop blaming the gun, this guy would have killed people with anything.

Crap. The video footage makes it absolutely clear that the guy had immensely effective weapons and knew exactly how to use them; like many American gun nuts, you included, he had many years of training. So he used what he was familiar with. The only guy who's done more damage was Timothy McVeigh, and assembling a truck bomb is a LOT more effort.

Choosing such a good spot to shoot from suggests a bit more than your aveage gun nut, though. I wonder if he was a veteran trained as a sniper?

(Looniest comment I've seen so far: some fat cat celebrity at the concert saying he could have stopped Paddock if he'd only had a gun with him. Firing 32 floors up into the side of a hotel with mind-boggled onlookers staring out of every occupied window - yeah right).


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: olddude
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 12:34 PM

Long before there we any gun control laws in America, this stuff never happened. People could buy scary things right from the mail, never happened... What is going on in the mind of America today, that's the question. What happened.. News Media, political fighting.. I dont know but we better find out and soon. Something is really broken


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: olddude
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 12:27 PM

It is an act by a deranged coward who wanted to kill people. He was using fully automatic weapons that are not legal to own anywhere in the USA. That is not a hunting rifle. Stop blaming the gun, this guy would have killed people with anything. A car, a bomb anything. He was out to kill innocence people. Evil has a way always to murder regardless of the means. Boston bomber used a pressure cooker.
I have no idea how to stop people like him. He had no criminal records.. No neighbors had issues, his brother was speechless as he had no sign.. How can any police protect against such an evil person


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 12:02 PM

One wonders how the fact that this shooting took place at a country music festival is going to affect the national discussion. Country music fans tend to be supportive of 2nd Amendment rights. Unlike the victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting, many of the Las Vegas victims probably own guns similar to the ones used against them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 11:20 AM

Thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families.


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 10:59 AM

it will be interesting to know at what point the law was broken. thirty seconds before the assassin opened fire - was he still within the law, and within his rights?


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 08:43 AM

Sigh. Biggest... so far.


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 08:30 AM

Have a wonderful day despite the all too familiar gun lust incidents.
We already know the cause culture and laws that protect shooters.
The police will investigate everything except what we already know.


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 08:23 AM

50 dead, two hundred wounded - all possible due to the right to carry arms
Unbelievable
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 08:18 AM

Woke to this horrifying news. This story is going to unfold for days and weeks; another argument about gun control will arise before it is again quashed by the National Rifle Association. Soon, like Columbine and Virginia Tech and Sandy Hook, it will become a target of conspiracy theorists. Pardon my jaundiced view; we live in troubled times.


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Subject: BS: Las Vegas - 50 dead so far
From: Will Fly
Date: 02 Oct 17 - 07:55 AM

The mind boggles. Whatever next...?


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