BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 07:27 AM

the great trump hunch

Trump has a hunch his numbers are best
his truth is better than all of the rest.
The Pense Prayer to walk before you crawl
will save you from any thinking at all

Even if it doesn't make any sense
go to work if you are sickly or tense
I've done the best, its clear to see
It will all go away if you vote for me.

The Democrat is sickest by far
to politicize a cold like SARS
Its better to kill them if they come near
with all their coughing and media fears

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 11:31 AM

Is it too little, too late?

Rachel Maddow interviews Bernie Sanders

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 11:44 AM

2 weeks ago it was Bernies to lose and he did an excellent job of losing by not joining the Pettis bridge march and his remarks about Castro.
Sure the corporate candidates ganged up against him, but Bernie's mouth guaranteed losing the convention vote when it comes.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Mar 20 - 12:07 PM

I now wear gloves which reminds me if I touch my face.
You will find it the hardest habit to break

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: John P
Date: 06 Mar 20 - 11:30 AM

Why should we expect the Democratic party to be unified during the primary season? This is the time where we get to see the differences between the candidates. As soon as we pick a candidate, there will be plenty of unity directed toward getting rid of the beast. And besides, it doesn't matter very much to me which Democrat gets it, although I'm very glad that Bloomberg dropped out. The rest of them are fine people with their own strengths and weaknesses as candidates. Any of them are infinitely better than any Republican, who are all crooks these days.

. . . his remarks about Castro.
Donuel, have you become a Republican or something? Why are you repeating their lies, acting like Sanders' comments were bad in any way? Do you really have a problem with a presidential candidate praising a literacy program in another country? He was very clear about all the things he doesn't like about Castro as well, but you don't bother reporting that.

John P

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Mar 20 - 04:05 PM

I know that Castro was the perfect gentleman while Nixon was a flaming ass hole, but explaining how the bad blood began is lost on our rather shallow citizens.
Like all of us sometimes, Bernie could have have shut up but decided to shout.

It would be better for Bern to define Biden than let Biden define him.


The most Republican thing I have said is that the business of America is business.
Thats why we have more property laws than civil rights laws.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Mar 20 - 10:26 AM

The DNC run to Biden is the thought that more Democrats will take the Senate and House than with Sanders as President. Maybe its true but its just a proposed strategy.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Mar 20 - 08:59 AM

Seven more states in the US
hold presidential primary elections this week.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Mar 20 - 05:53 PM

Some customary election-night rallies have been cancelled
thanks to the fear around the coronavirus.
(Ohio, for example)

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Mar 20 - 09:10 AM

With hindsight from the outbreak of today we should have chosen a young survivor like Mayor Pete.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Mar 20 - 03:19 PM

Just because candidates drop out of the presidential running,
they won't drop out of sight, after all.
Far from it --
we are still some ways off from the decision about
who the running-mates will be when it is nomination time.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mr Red
Date: 17 Mar 20 - 05:15 AM

last night on UK TV Channel 5 - Henry VIII & Trump: History repeating?

The premise was to compare the similarities. Yea Yea there are differences, but the similarities will alarm you.

1) Second son, inherited by the death of elder brother. Tries harder to prove himself.
2) Married his mistress as second trophy wife and it didn't go well.
3) First wife demonstrated power/success to outshine husband. Ego couldn't take it.
4) Tyrannical, ruthless hiring/firing often, eg beheading/jailing.
5) recruited from below establishment tier of advisers, yes men, beholden!
6) tore up the rule book. Messy chaotic decision making.
7) throws so many curve balls no-one can deal with them all, confuses everyone.
8) countered print/cyber criticisms as treason/fake news. Uses the technology of the day to promulgate his vituperation - print/twitter.
9) Philanderer/lothario.
10) Trump's 47th birthday party invite showed a picture of him on a throne, sword in hand, girl at feet. Holbein painted Henry to emphasise his power, towering over family. Ego personified.

Now the extrapolation:

Henry 8 left a power vacuum behind that descended into in-fighting and rapid switches. And (get this) the pundits looked to Queen Liz 1 and then to Ivanka and compared their strategies. And the strap line was:
as bizzare as it sounds, but don't bet against Ivanka being the first female president".

Many thought Twitler wouldn't get there! We are living in interesting times!

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mr Red
Date: 18 Mar 20 - 05:21 PM

Thomas Frank talk at Kansas City Public Library

I hour long, I haven't got to the end of it, but what I get from him is:

1) The Democrats have shifted emphasis from the blue collar workers of FDR and the depression to the winners - the lawyers, lecturers, Doctors, PhDs etc classes,

2) the Republicans have stolen the phrases of the FDR era and make Trump look like working class (huh?).

The image that came to me was a graph of the US political scenery, with Repubs Right, Democrats on the left, but there is a vertical dimension (aka money), where the democrats have moved up-market. Trump has mined the under-belly that the Dems have not talked to with enough conviction.

Maggie Thatcher did much the same. She appealed to the working class Tories. Go figure.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Apr 20 - 11:11 PM

Interesting to watch state of Ohio presidential primary today;
a handful of in-person voters
practicing social distancing
and wearing face masks at the polls,
and many other people voting by mail.
The news journalists are considering this one example
as something that may have to be followed
as long as COVID-19 has the better of us.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Apr 20 - 09:12 AM

So far 20 cases of Covid resulted from voting

Meat packers are protesting. If they don't show up for work they won't get unemployment. When the government says work or give up unemployment insurance we know why there is this push to 'officially open' business.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 May 20 - 10:01 AM

Now it has come to this:

The Tuesday after the first Monday in November --
sacrosanct for Election Day in the USA,
as per a federal statute.

Now the current US President's son-in-law,
in his capacity as 'senior White House advisor,'
has blurted out in a Time Magazine interview
that November's Election Day
is included in many things that
a second outbreak of coronavirus could change --
and today, he retracts the statement.

But that he made the statement in the first place ...

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Jun 20 - 03:55 PM

9 June has turned into another Super Tuesday
in the series of US state primary elections.
State primary elections
that were previously scheduled at an earlier date,
and then postponed
due to the coronavirus pandemic,
have sort of piled up today.

Reports from the state of Georgia
are troubling, with accusations about
disruptions in the voting process through
everything from machines breaking down
to the closing of some polling places.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Jun 20 - 05:59 PM

What Trump wants is a maskless rally-convention as usual.
I heard his new slogan "Make America come back again"

If memory serves, McCain's slogan was "Take America back"

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 09 Jun 20 - 09:22 PM

. . . and then there was George McGovern, remember him?
"Come home, America!"

The late columnist Shana Alexander wrote
with typical world-weariness,
that "Come home, America!"
reminded her of
"a decent man calling his cocker spaniel from the back porch."

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 10 Jun 20 - 09:39 AM

... and there is still concern about
the primary election in Maryland
which was one week ago.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Jun 20 - 04:52 PM

My mail in ballot could be invalidated since the return envelope was partially sealed and I had to tear it slightly to open it. Like counting chads one could claim it was tampered with. Stacy Abrams also claimed her return envelope ballot was totally sealed shut.

IOWA WINS THE TrUMP RALLY ON JUNE TEENTH
Instead of celebrating freeing the slaves Trump will have his racist rally on the same day. Trump will encourage no masks and make no mention of the pandemic. good luck Iowans.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 23 Jun 20 - 03:22 PM

It's another Super Tuesday of primary elections.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jun 20 - 04:40 PM

Yup. I voted absentee a while back, but I walked my absentee ballot in myself.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 11:28 AM

A possible harbinger of the big election in November:
so many absentee/mail-in ballots
that in some of yesterday's races,
it may be upwards of a week before counting is definite.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 11:32 AM

I saw a reported poll with B > T by 14 pts

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: EBarnacle
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 12:58 PM

NY held its primary yesterday. AOC has won the primary for her seat in a Blue district. Other results are notyet reported due to slow counting of absentee ballots.
Lady Hillary and I have mailed in our NJ absentee ballots, checked off for Sanders. We know that Biden has won the nomination. Having said that, Sanders' delegate representation at the [virtual] convention will give him input on the platform.
Trump is doing a wonderful job of shooting himself in the tongue. I sent a not to Biden HQ suggesting that, if Agent Orange does his usual incoherent job in the first debate, they should move to eliminate the other two out of pity for both Trump and the public.
Trump wants more debates but that would be a total waste of the public airwaves.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Jun 20 - 04:24 PM

This was in the Juneteenth/independence thread...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/08/06/could-joe-biden-pick-barack-obama-as-his-running-mate-yes-but/

Blicky.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 25 Jun 20 - 05:04 PM

AhA! I knew I'd made a blicky. Anyway, if it's behind a paywall, I've pasted the text into that other thread, thinking I was pasting it here.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 Jun 20 - 05:44 AM

I watched a documentary on the "National Enquirer" and in the closing stages - even ex-staff were agog at the overt political bias in the 2016 election. And the closing text said:

"In 2018, federal prosecutors granted immunity to David Pecker and AMI for admitting the company made illegal payments to influence the 2016 presidential election"

And the programme had already delineated the connection between Pecker and Trump. If I remember rightly, Trump was a director of one of the AMI companies.

Yes, it is a shit publication, but influential, particularly to its demographic.

Be afraid America, be very afraid.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 26 Jun 20 - 09:43 AM

'Trump Think' is a new problem solving strategy which is a spin off of Denial.
If you want numbers to look more favorable-stop measuring.
If you don't test for cancer or Covid the numbers will drop.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jun 20 - 07:57 AM

The Pense Pandemic Task Force:

By doing nothing, a few people will get sick and die. This is our amazing and successful official policy in the US which is now passing its earlier all time high infection rate. We're #1. Remember " we must not make the cure worse than the disease". So we open early, force certain workers into infection chambers at work, roll back testing and contact tracing, have unmasked political gatherings inside and by not supporting people who are unemployed. Go to crowded events and party. People are saying that those who die are already old or black... wink wink nudge nudge know what I mean?

We must even decide if we should try to save those who weakly decide to succumb to the virus at all if there are not enough beds, PPE or medical treatments.
We must not make treatment worse than the effect on the economy!
So go ahead and take no personal responsibility. DO NOT WEAR A MASK.
Be a fancy free Steve. You don't have to chant 'Lets do nothing' but just be sure to take no social respondsibility.
Not caring for the sick and dieing is easier than it sounds. It is the last viral intrusion on our lives. All that wasted money is saved. WE DON'T NEED TO BURY THE DEAD. Body removal has been shown to work best with ovens. Gas is cheap now, so take a flight and smirk. That reciculated air in a hypo baric pressure tube is less dangerous than an infected TSA agent. You can even take a cruise at half price.
Make life cheap again! {^/ PRAY PRAY PREY

HIEL TRUMP 2020

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jun 20 - 01:35 PM

TRUMP THINKS
Removing millions from the Affordable Health Care Act by an order by the Supreme Trump Court couldn't happen at a better time than in the middle of a pandemic. It will save time and beds for people with Cadillac Insurance plans. Let the poor heal themselves.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 27 Jun 20 - 04:15 PM

He is so stubbornly selfish, it's clear that no one could ever change his mind. What's good for him must be good for America, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 28 Jun 20 - 12:02 PM

BIDEN SAYS HE IS comfortable with letting Trump hang himself.
Trump said that is lynching hate speech and a criminal murder threat, until an aid reminded him that he would have to hang himself first for those charges to stick. :^?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 06:28 AM

So who ya gonna vote for, sleepy Joe Offer or tantrum Trump?
Republicans want a moniker more villiainous than 'sleepy' Joe.
But what?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 29 Jun 20 - 02:00 PM

First Joe Offer is sleepy only bfore bed. As for the national election, We are already in the extreme silly season of an election.
I don't know which lies are more effective anymore but there are more extreme prevarications arriving more often. To even respond to them is a participation in the stagecraft of the absurd. 'Minds will be boggled but not changed at this point'.
The power of real raw self interest of Democrats and Republicans will be the driving force from now on, and that outcome is partially up to you despite the dumpster fires and suppressions.
So I'm goin cat fishin with some yarn on a stick until Halloween and try to ignore politics till then.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Jun 20 - 09:25 PM

Another big Tuesday of primary elections.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Jul 20 - 03:37 PM

All the world’s a hoax,
And all the men and women merely minions;
They have their firing and their hiring;
And the best man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse’s arms;
And then the winning school-boy, with his ball
And shining morning face, the greatest of the great
school is purchased. And then Cassenova,
Sighing like furnace, with a woeful ballad
Made to his prostitites’ ear. Then a cadet soldier,
Full of strange oaths, Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,Seeking the Epstien reputation
Even in the liars mouth. And then the injustice,
In fair round belly filled with fast food,
With eyes severe and hair of surgical cut,
Full of wise guys and modern instances;
And so he plays his TV part. The sixth age shifts
Into the statue of President.
With no mask on nose and a pouch a world too wide
For his shrunk shank; and his mocking voice,
Turning again toward childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
His second childishness and mere oblivion;
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Jul 20 - 04:53 PM

It might help if people educated themselves on people who stutter. Good article on stuttering by a stutterer interviewing Joe Biden

The Atlantic January/February 2020 (Emma) Alpern told me that she’s on a group text with other stutterers who regularly discuss Biden, and that it’s been “frustrating” to watch the media portray Biden’s speech impediment as a sign of mental decline or dishonesty. “Biden allows that to happen by not naming it for what it is,” she said, though she’s not sure that his presidential candidacy would benefit if he were more forthcoming. “I think he’s dug himself into a hole of not saying that he still stutters for so long that it would strike people as a little weird.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/joe-biden-stutter-profile/602401/

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 02 Jul 20 - 05:38 PM

I've never heard that Biden had a speech impediment. Gaffes, yes, but nothing else.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mr Red
Date: 03 Jul 20 - 04:12 AM

I watched a couple of videos and there are notable Americans out there openly calling Trump a liar. And always referring to him as Mr Trump, never president!

The Russian angle looks to be a pivotal issue for him. Anyone with an angle to get rid of the UK's very own buffo?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 04 Jul 20 - 09:24 AM

Ok I knew this was coming:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-2020-us-election-third-term-tim-wirth-white-house-a9600486.html

Blicky

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 07:50 AM

From: oldhippie - PM
Date: 02 Jul 20 - 09:30 PM

HOW FAR WE HAVE COME

Bill Frederick

When our fathers came to this golden land
There was nothing but forests and rivers and sand
And a few million Indians running around
Now look what we've made of the little they found

Theyre's cities of silver that shine in the night
Churches of splendor and halls of delight
And only an echo of Indian drums
Who can deny how far we have come

The slave ships they came with the whip and the rack
And a million black people with scars on their back
Picked cotton, drew water, and slept in the cold
With a bible for comfort they were happy and cold

The laws they were passed, slavery went
Our lives integrated at least six percent
In the sharecroppers shack and the big city slum
Who can deny how far we have come

The immigrants came from the green Irish shore
From Poland and Russia, ten million and more
Germany, Italy, all the world round
To settle our ghettos and immigrant towns

Their brains and their bodies they put to the wheel
To build our great factories and towers of steel
To march to our battles and carry our guns
Who can deny how far we have come

Now all through the Andes, they've heard of our name
On the factory wall, in the palace of shame
They drink Coca Cola and the times that they spend
Goes straight to the pockets of our businessmen

To pay for our Fords, and our split level homes
Our Hi-Fis and records and six percent loans
Our profits protected with dictators guns
Who can deny how far we have come

In Asia and Africa, they're learning too
How free enterprise can do wonders for you
South Africas prisons are bursting with men
Barbed wire keeps the Vietnamese in

Where elections are daydreams that never get far
American weapons are there standing guard
We're ready to fight for the lands that we run
Who can deny how far we have come

Our fears they are many though they're seldom saved
They're black and they're yellow and they're brown and they're red
They see through the legend, they smell the decay
They're learning to fight the American way

And we in our armchairs are quick to condemn
Our bankbooks are falling, our profits might end
The breaking of change is our funeral hum
Who can deny how far we have come

When our fathers came to this golden land
There was nothing but forests and rivers and sand
And a few million Indians running around
Now look what we've made of the little they found

Theyre's cities of silver that shine in the night
Churches of splendor and halls of delight
And only an echo of Indian drums
Who can deny how far we have come

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jul 20 - 08:26 AM

Good poetry, there.

Dubya and his pack/PAC-mates are working against idiot, wow.

And the WH is keeping, or trying to keep, him from talking to Americans at all, especially about the [whispering] pandemic.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: robomatic
Date: 06 Jul 20 - 10:49 PM

First let's get some spelnig strait: It's Condoleezza.

Next I think that it will turn out that the country has accelerated its liberating trends in the Tr*mp administration. Because of the current occupant we've seen much more desecration of Confederate erstwhile idols and their battleflag.

There's something about having an oaf in office that makes you just want to pour water on a burning cross...

I don't think this would be the case if Hilary had won. I think Nascar would still have the flag and Washington R-skins would not be considering a name change. On the other hand, would there be thousands more Americans alive? Very likely...

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Jul 20 - 06:16 PM

spelnig sounds racist

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jul 20 - 06:04 AM

The Republican Convention will be attended by Mike Lindell the my pillow guy and Rand Paul but everyone else from the Senate and Tik Tok are doubtful. There may even be more Michigan militiamen than delegates. Steve Scalise is promoting an 'IN PERSON' Disney World PAC convention to collect money for Trump since he doesn't trust the mail for donations.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Jul 20 - 11:05 AM

It's Hillary. Two l's. And yes, I think there would be many more Americans alive if a decent human being were president and not the sociopath in the office right now.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Jul 20 - 11:26 AM

Robo knows how to spell but typos happen.
I like misspelling delibertely like "scarred strait"

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA
From: Mrrzy
Date: 09 Jul 20 - 08:12 AM

I have been wondering if it's worth all the death and destruction to a) not reelect him and b) get rid of the confederacy crap / have all lives actually ally matter...