BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Dec 20 - 01:23 PM

The difference between Putin and Trump is that Donal fails to murder maim or jail opponents. That is th best I can say for him. (low barr)

Instead he is lashing out by tweet at fellow Republicans that fail to support his coup and instead follow the Constitution, which is something that McConnel and friends have yet to do. Yep Trump is the kind of of stark two dimentional villain Jack London wrote about in Call of the Wild who lashed and beat dogs with clubs.

Georgia Republicans are trying to convince voters that the "rigged election" won't apply to the 2 Senate seats up for grabs. Sorry Charlie it is hard to undo your own conspiracy theory in only 30 days.

50 days until A NEW HOPE despite the Phantom menace and the empire striking back at the the revenge of the Sith.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 20 - 06:23 AM

However Trump is willing to murder by associative means be it ny virus or by independant gunman operating from disimformation.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 20 - 08:21 AM

The scandal de jour is about people bribing Donald for a pardon. The court documents were sealed since August to not influence the election, again. The NYT broke the story now that a redacted version of the court documents are now public.

White house legal counsel is frenetically working on a brand new pardon product that pre pardons, pardons bribery, protects against all possible past&future crimes and confers innocense instead of guilt.

So far the leading political invention is a new attorney client priviledge as well as changing the foundation of law of 'No man is above the law' to a new "No man is above the law
WITH ONE EXCEPTION".

The legal argument to support this is 'Trump is not a Man'.
It certainly is debatable. :^/

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 Dec 20 - 08:39 AM

Trump is a sociopath and a psychopath

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 20 - 08:45 AM

So are many CEO's and people whose ambition is to control others by any means in exchange for power.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 20 - 09:10 AM

I have thought about solutions to the sociopath problem in society for decades. I realize that there are certain circumstances in human evolution that sociopaths may have helped the species. These Reptillian people today are more harmful than helpful imo. A second enlightenment is growing to psychologically regulate the sociopath.
Trump is a good example we can learn from.
Will we (the societal we) learn?
A never again campaign regarding Hitlers and Stalins is as short term as generational memory.
I am at a loss for long term solutions.
Final solutions are illusory and evil.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 20 - 09:44 AM

I suppose some elements of religion were designed to avoid the dangers of the sociopath but given time religion itself is prone to the sociopaths within.

How anout thepardon scandal?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Dec 20 - 07:38 PM

Anything that happens in life
Can happen in DC
You can make 'em mad
You can make 'em cry
Anything and everything goes

(Chorus)
[SCHUMER]
The clown
With his tweets falling down
Or the case
Right before arraignment
Or the man
That the country can't stand
That's entertainment!

[PELOSI]
The lights
On first ladies in tights

[BIDEN]
Or the bride
With a guy on the side

[SCHUMER]
Or the ball
Where she, infects them all

[BIDEN, SCHUMER, AND PELOSI]
That's entertainment!

[PELOSI]
The plot
Could be hot
Simply teeming with porn

[SCHUMER]
A gay
Senator
Who is after his ex

[BIDEN]
It could be Oedipus Rex

[SCHUMER]
Where a teen kills off the Congress
And gun nuts have wronged us.

[NANCY]
The jerk
Who is thrown out of work

[JOE]
By the boss
Who is thrown for a loss

[CHUCK]
By the flirt
Who is doing him dirt

[ALL]
The world is a stage
The stage is DC
Its entertainment!

(instrumental break)

[ALL]
The doubt
While the jury is out
Or the drill
When the judge has his fill
Or the case
For the man in disgrace
That's entertainment!

[NANCY]
The dame
Who is known as the flame

[CHUCK]
Of the king
Of an underworld ring

[CHUCK AND JOE]
He's an ape
Who won't let her escape

[ALL]
That's entertainment!
It might
Be a fight
Like you see on the screen
A gang
Getting banged
For the love of some cash
For some huge party bash
At a spot that really is sweet
And everyone ends in mincemeat.
The gag
Where he's waving the flag
That began
With a crooked con man
Hip hip hooray
The American way!
The world is a stage
The stage in DC
Is entertainment!

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 02:11 AM

Is Trumps foreign policy any worse than any other president of the USA?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 05:27 AM

You mean, apart from striving to make an enemy of China, ditching the Paris Accords, backing out from the Iran nuclear deal, giving perpetual succour to a vicious Israeli regime, alienating Mexico with his wall threat and getting into bed with Putin?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: gillymor
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 06:39 AM

Then there's his admiration for and envy of other strong men around the world, besides Putin, including those in North Korea, Turkey and Libya. His state department doesn't give a fig about human rights unless it involves Evangelical Christians. He's severely damaged relations with our NATO allies.
This world is lot less safe since this greedy, self-serving incompetent jerk took office.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 07:20 AM

no, i am wondering how history will judge him on his actions, is he anymore of a warmonger than other USA presidents, how does he compare to Bush or Nixon or Reagan Johnson Obama

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 07:27 AM

I think that history's main judgement will be "thank Christ he didn't win a second term..."

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 07:56 AM

ok , i find him narcissitic and crass, but let us look at his policies , yes building a wall is unpleasant however it boosts his economy by employing people in public works, granted there are undoubtedly better public works to be concentrating on.
so he is friendly with Putin , well that means no nuclear war between the two
did he bomb iraq did he send troops in to vietnam, did he precipitate a war with the soviet union over the bay of pigs, did he invade afghanistan., did he murder allende

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 08:10 AM

i do not like soviet imperialism, chines imperialism or usa imperialis. gillymor who does he admire in libya?did bush care about human rights. who was president in 1970 when allende was murdered by the usa

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 08:28 AM

I get all that, Dick, and there's no bigger critic of US (and UK) foreign policy down the decades than me. A running sore since WW2 has been America's unconditional support of repressive and bellicose Israeli regimes. But pulling out of climate accords and falling out with China are extremely dangerous for the whole planet, so I repeat, thank Christ he didn't win another term.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 10:31 AM

Anything that happens in life
Can happen in DC
You can make 'em crab
You can make 'em mad
Anything and everything goes

(Chorus - Thats entertainment)
[SCHUMER]

The clown,
With his tweets falling down
Or the case
of the man in disgrace
Or the scam
That the country can't stand
That's entertainment!

[PELOSI]
The lights,
On first ladies in tights

[BIDEN]
Or the pride,
Of Nazis worst side

[SCHUMER]
Or the ball,
Where Trump, infected them all

[BIDEN, SCHUMER, AND PELOSI]
That's entertainment!

[PELOSI]
The plot.
Could be hot
Simply teaming with porn

[SCHUMER]
Lindsey's
forlorn and
misses his ex

[BIDEN]
John McCain
but there never was sex

[SCHUMER]
Obstruction by the Congress
Feels like they have wronged us.

[NANCY]
The jerk
Who is thrown out of work

[JOE]
By the boss
Who is thrown for a lo$$

[CHUCK]
By a flirt
Who is doing him dirt

[ALL]
The world is a stage
The stage is DC
Thats entertainment!

(instrumental break)

[ALL]
The doubt
While the jury is out
Or the drill
When the judge has his fill
Or the case
Of the man who's disgraced
That's entertainment!

[NANCY]
The whore
Donald called Storm

[CHUCK]
He's the king
Of an underworld ring

[CHUCK AND JOE]
He yells fake
and tries to escape

[ALL]
That's entertainment!
It might
Be a fight
Like you see on TV
A show
that blows
About who stays or who goes
By a huge childish creep
In a time slot that is sweet

And everyone ends in mincemeat.

The gag
Where he's waving the flag
That began
With a crooked con man
Hip hip hooray
The American way!
The world is a stage
The stage in DC
THATS entertainment!


[the fading voice of Trump] "Trump for president to Infinity and beyond".


donuel

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 10:34 AM

If trump does get evicted he will instead become a constant festering open sore
in Biden's backside..

He'll set out to mobilise his demented faithful into pursuing every nasty trick
to destabilise his successor's positive agenda...

With or without the republican parties agreement and willing compliance..

.. trump's a 2nd rate meglomaniac 'Bond villain' personified...

[one of the really crap villains out of the worst Bond movies...]

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 12:21 PM

Donald Stavro Blohole?

:D

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Dec 20 - 06:28 PM

Dr. No nothing.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 05:37 AM

Something fishy is going on in Britain.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 07:03 AM

Behind the kitchens of Trump hotel restaurants
the dumpsters are fermenting and distilling
a dumpster juice that is rotten but addictive.
Sure it is toxic but artificially sweetened
so the rotten after taste makes people drink more
sweetened dumpster juice to hide the rotten flavor.
Compared to salty Liberal tears dumpster juice
has more appeal among people who don't drink wine.
The older crowd drink beer with special additives.
It was invented by think tanks that aspire
to better politics through chemistry by mixing
Oxytocin with Soma, blocking foward brain function
while instilling a blind trust and unquestioned belief.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 07:44 AM

The toxic elixers of the right wing while powerful
are not why people show up at Trump rallies.
They show up because they are all white.
They are watching their slim majority
and supreamacy now fade and fear
the other colorful Americans.
They cultivate victimhood
of the wealthy white
Billionares with
boats, planes.
mansions,
banks
and
...

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 08:28 AM

Much as i dislike trump and his childish bullying tantrums, he was only a puppet, who really pulls the strings, and was he any worse than nixon or johnson or bush or any other of the warmongering presidents

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 08:33 AM

people on this forum thought that things would change with obama, but they did not OBAMAwas another puppet of a different colour, he was more personable and charming than trump, but how different apart from the wall were his policies?

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 09:41 AM

They must have been very different or else Trump wouldn't have rolled them back.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 10:16 AM

Dick - as far as USA presidents go, trump must be without doubt
the worst shite of the lot..

Take all the shitty bits of all the other presidents.
roll it up like a busy dung beetle would into a huge shit ball,
then coat it in a thick layer of even more shit..

.. that's trump...

For extra amusement spray the shit ball orange
and poke a tuft of of cat's puked up hair on top...

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Helen
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 01:12 PM

Well said, pfr! :-D

I particularly like the Trump toilet brush. It would be very satisfying cleaning the toilet with that big yellow brush springing out of a plastic Trump head.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 01:44 PM

pfr could you back that up with examples of how his foreign policy was any more war mongering than the presidents i memtioned. i am not talking about posturing but about actual invasions of other countries , he did not invade vietnam afganistan iraq,or kiling allende or bin laden neither was he responsible for bay of pigs, i dont like him ok but answer the questions

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Mrrzy
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 02:01 PM

Obama's POLICIES were pretty diametrically opposed. That Congress refused to meet with him and prevented any of them from being implemented does not detract from that. You can lead a horticulture...

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Helen
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 02:04 PM

He didn't need to invade other countries. His negligence and arrogance has killed nearly 300,000 of the American people so far. One in twenty of the entire population of the U.S. has been infected with COVID 19. To make it worse, one of his major promises was to disband Obamacare, and then health care became one of the most important issues to the people who were sick and dying.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 02:27 PM

Dick - no I won't dance to your tune...

You've got another bee in your bonnet which I will not indulge..

If for whatever perverse reason you are making a claim that trump
is no worse than other presidents,
and nothing quite as bad as h1tler or st@lin;
so he's not really that bad a bloke..

go ahead.. knock yerself out..

Personally, I'd agree with you that US presidents are far too powerful
for the rest of the world's good..

The key difference is trump is the mad man in power right now,
with his itchy trigger finger
hovering closer down towards the nukes button...

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 02:38 PM

Editing blooper..

Should have typed...

"nothing quite as evil"...

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 03:56 PM

i did not say he was a not bad bloke

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 05:17 PM

The key difference is trump is the mad man in power right now,
with his itchy trigger finger
hovering closer down towards the nukes button... quote
there is no evidence of that, however stupid his home policy is as regards covid and wall building, and however silly his election crybaby tactics were

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 05:34 PM

Trump may have just been indulging in macho posturing. So was Saddam Hussein over WMDs. The USA got rid of the madman in Iraq and then voted one into their own throne.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 05:41 PM

Dick - no point debating this with me..

I'm by nature wary of American political and cultural domination..

Despite me being a huge enthusiast for so much of the great USA music and movies..

You really need to ask our yank mates how much they are afraid of trump
still hogging the nuclear bomb codes until he's dragged out of the white house...???

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Helen
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 05:51 PM

And that his closest affinity to other world leaders appears to be towards dictators.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 06:16 PM

Everything is just about over, the final canvassing, the electoral college. I've read speculation that Trump won't return to the White House after the xmas holidays. Fine with most of us - it would give the National Park Service time to clean the place up and get documents to the National Archives.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 07:14 PM

This may be the first time the Archives will preserve tweets.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Helen
Date: 07 Dec 20 - 08:40 PM

Twitter and bisted (i.e. bitter and twisted).

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Dec 20 - 03:14 AM

I am critical of his domestic policy.
I was asking questions about his foreign policy in comparison with other USA presidents
Dave Gnome points out that it was another president that removed and liquidated Saddam Hussein after the USA had been supporting him for years the usa WERE HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS SUPPOSED MADMAN FOR YEARSand then happy to liquidate their puppet when it suited ,Trump was not in charge at that time.
Trump has less power than he thinks and will very shortly be another back number. the USA foreign policy for years has been in invading and interfering in the middle east the far east chile cuba, none of which was Trumps fault.
let us try and look at Trumps foreign policy rationally and analyse it and compare it to other USA presidents.
Trumps domestic policy has been divisive and incompetent as regards handling of covid

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 08 Dec 20 - 03:36 AM

Dick - are we here in Europe safer, or more at risk right now,
as a direct result of trump's petulant erratically antagonistic foreign policy...???

I'd be more inclined to be worried about the latter...

So far, we survived all the previous war mongering impulses of the USA..
Previous Presidents had some sane self restraint..

Ok, we might not cop it so bad if the missiles only fly back and forth across the Pacific...?????

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Dec 20 - 03:43 PM

No, i do not feel endangered by Trump.
I think his domestic policy is very bad, he will be gone by the end of januaryhe has less power than he thinks he will soon be a back number. i feel sorry for people living in the states his incompetent handling of covid is more of a risk to them, than any usa attack on europe

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Dec 20 - 09:44 PM

Another fivolous trump lawsuit was given to the Supream Court. Today they said "talk to the hand, we're not even gonna listen to it."
The trump team is actually sueing each every elector of the Pennsylvnia electoral college to not certify the vote.

I think he won't give up until he sues every democrat who voted wrong, which should take about 4 years.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 10 Dec 20 - 05:38 AM

Keep your fingers crossed. There's a long time to go to till he's forced to leave the White House. There's a very good chance he'll have ignited a war with Iran in cahoots with Israel and Saudi Arabia before he's gone.

Perhaps the best hope is that he keeps his intention on domestic matters, which seems pretty exclusively to mean, building his status as the record breaking vexatious litigant and serial loser of all time.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Dec 20 - 06:56 AM

There is 989 hours to go.
The Trump legal team did not decide to sue every single Democrat.
INSTEAD they decided to have Texas sue all the battleground states that voted for Biden. This is more bizarre than my suggestion.
I guess the point is to keep the process of legal challenge going no matter how absurd. I think they can PROVE ERECTION FRAUD but they can't seem to bring a single case of election fraud.
With 3,000 deaths a day from Covid, any distraction in a storm will do.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 SEDITION against USA - BIDEN
From: Donuel
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 06:25 AM

Congress has until midnight tonight or the government shuts down on Dec. 18.

Like cookies and milk or hot dogs with beans SHUTDOWN and SEDITIiON go together.

The issues avoided are overturning a democratic election and any Covid relief bill for those facing eviction and food insecurity..

With the number of deaths equal to the battle of Gettysburg EVERY DAY from Covid disease in America, I would hope the Republican shutdown of government trick could be avoided just this once.

I told you this was coming and now its here today until midnight.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 09:52 AM

You can tell who the Trump supporters are these days. They didn't take down signs or flags after the election. They refuse to wear masks, or to wear them correctly. And when you ask them to put the mask on they're churlish or downright rude about it. They are among us and they mean to gum up the works if they can. They are proof that there is such a thing as contagious insanity.

Subject: RE: BS: 2020 national election, USA - BIDEN wins Nov 7
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Dec 20 - 11:26 AM

Three more days to another deadline... Supposedly the last one. On verra.