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BS: Brexit & other UK political topics

Dave the Gnome 01 May 21 - 07:35 AM
Steve Shaw 01 May 21 - 07:27 AM
Allan Conn 01 May 21 - 07:04 AM
Dave the Gnome 01 May 21 - 06:56 AM
Nigel Parsons 01 May 21 - 05:48 AM
Dave the Gnome 01 May 21 - 02:07 AM
Nigel Parsons 30 Apr 21 - 08:24 PM
Dave the Gnome 30 Apr 21 - 10:40 AM
Rain Dog 29 Apr 21 - 02:44 PM
punkfolkrocker 27 Apr 21 - 10:14 AM
Rain Dog 27 Apr 21 - 09:56 AM
punkfolkrocker 27 Apr 21 - 09:33 AM
Rain Dog 27 Apr 21 - 08:55 AM
punkfolkrocker 27 Apr 21 - 07:53 AM
Rain Dog 27 Apr 21 - 06:42 AM
punkfolkrocker 27 Apr 21 - 04:14 AM
Rain Dog 27 Apr 21 - 03:20 AM
punkfolkrocker 26 Apr 21 - 09:19 AM
Backwoodsman 26 Apr 21 - 05:11 AM
Backwoodsman 26 Apr 21 - 03:57 AM
Dave the Gnome 26 Apr 21 - 02:48 AM
Backwoodsman 26 Apr 21 - 02:33 AM
peteglasgow 26 Apr 21 - 02:18 AM
The Sandman 26 Apr 21 - 01:30 AM
Backwoodsman 24 Apr 21 - 03:25 PM
Dave the Gnome 24 Apr 21 - 11:35 AM
Donuel 24 Apr 21 - 10:36 AM
Dave the Gnome 24 Apr 21 - 10:27 AM
Rain Dog 24 Apr 21 - 07:44 AM
Backwoodsman 24 Apr 21 - 07:17 AM
Dave the Gnome 24 Apr 21 - 04:36 AM
Rain Dog 23 Apr 21 - 01:57 PM
DMcG 23 Apr 21 - 01:07 PM
DMcG 23 Apr 21 - 12:55 PM
Backwoodsman 23 Apr 21 - 08:14 AM
Dave the Gnome 23 Apr 21 - 07:54 AM
Rain Dog 21 Apr 21 - 03:17 PM
punkfolkrocker 21 Apr 21 - 04:27 AM
Rain Dog 20 Apr 21 - 02:31 PM
The Sandman 20 Apr 21 - 02:24 PM
Rain Dog 20 Apr 21 - 02:15 PM
Jack Campin 19 Apr 21 - 04:26 PM
Mrrzy 19 Apr 21 - 02:01 PM
Jack Campin 19 Apr 21 - 01:34 PM
Jack Campin 19 Apr 21 - 12:43 PM
Mrrzy 19 Apr 21 - 09:55 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 May 21 - 07:35 AM

Agreed, Steve. But it will not damage the country as much as brexit! Bozzer has a track record of lying, cheating and bullying yet he was so popular that he gained a massive majority. We need to ask ourselves why and, as a member of the Labour party at the time, I consider it to be as much my fault as anyone's that the mandate to continue lying, cheating and bullying was handed to him on a plate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 01 May 21 - 07:27 AM

It is not a minor matter. It is an abuse of the privileges of high office. It is, in essence, the same kind of amorality/immorality that leads to the enrichment of dictators and their hangers-on.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Allan Conn
Date: 01 May 21 - 07:04 AM

The Tories started off this Scottish election with constant attacks on Sturgeon and did she break the ministerial code. There was several weeks of it with the media suggesting she was in the point of having to resign. In truth nobody much in the population at large very much cared if she heard about the allegations against Salmond several days before she initially said. It blew over eventually and no doubt dented the initial campaign a wee bit but not seriously. They are ending it now with their own UK leader under the spotlight. Not sure if that will make much difference in the scheme things. If Labour come in 2nd rather than the Tories I think it would be down to Sarwar appearing more sensible than Ross more than what Boris has or hasn't done.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 May 21 - 06:56 AM

OK, thanks Nigel. You gave a direct answer of 'no' to whether the mismanagment of brexit was more important than lying about the refurbishment of his flat so you must consider the latter to be more important. On the other hand, you say that Bozzer will be remembered more for brexit. How can that be if you consider it a less important issue than his curtains?

Yes, I know that you belive that brexit is a good thing and that eventually we will be better off. That is against the views of the vast majority of economists and business leaders who tell us that it may be decades, if ever, before we recover from the move. Nothing wrong with swimming against the tide but please don't blame anyone else if you drown and try to ensure you don't take anyone else with you. Of course you may believe that the insubstantial concept of "sovereignty" is more important than our long term well being. Many do. I don't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 01 May 21 - 05:48 AM

Regardless of her reasons and politics, do you agree with her conclusion that Johnson's mismanagement of brexit is a much bigger crime than the expensive curtains?

No! (in answer to the direct question)

I don't consider that Boris has mismanaged or mis-sold Brexit. He had a poor starting position because of the position left by Theresa May. I still believe that Brexit will have been a positive move for the country in general.
As for his legacy, yes, he is more likely to be remembered for Brexit than for the refurbishment of 11 Downing Street. He is also more likely to be remembered for his handling of Covid.
In the 'great scheme of things' how the refurbishment was paid for is a minor matter which should not distract from the more important issues facing the country.
But of course, there are elections pending (particularly in Scotland and Wales) so jumping on this could be seen as the opportunism of the opposition.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 May 21 - 02:07 AM

It is more the premise of her article that I was interested in, Nigel. I I would have thought the "Johnson's legacy" bit would have indicated that but sorry for not making it clear enough. Here is the opening salvo fired at Bozzer.

But history will record one great political crime above all the others, his tawdry dishonesties mere illuminations round its edges. The delinquent who miss-sold Brexit to half the nation with a stardust of false promises to secure himself the throne will leave behind the Brexit breakages long after he has gone.


And it concludes against him

Wallpaper and lies may bring Johnson down, but Brexit is the crime against the country for which he will be for ever damned. Riots and the fall of Arlene Foster imperil the peace agreement in Ireland, and the UK’s breakup is on a knife edge.

Regardless of her reasons and politics, do you agree with her conclusion that Johnson's mismanagement of brexit is a much bigger crime than the expensive curtains?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 30 Apr 21 - 08:24 PM

Dave:
I thought I'd give it a go. She doesn't make it difficult to disagree with her.
First paragraph (from your link):
Amid slippages, losses, vanishing investments and export drops, the drip, drip of Brexit damage never stops. I collect examples every week, as if picking up spent mortar rounds from a battlefield. On Wednesday, it was 450 jobs lost as car parts manufacturer Toyoda Gosei prepares to shut factories in Rotherham and Swansea, and relocate to the Czech Republic.
The link she gave in that paragraph, supposedly to support her argument was to the BBC. Unfortunately the BBC article says: The company, which produces components for Toyota, Nissan, Renault and Honda, said it was responding to changes in the global sector and a "significant reduction" in UK customer demand. AND "There isn't one factor that has resulted in the announcement today," added a spokeswoman.
Nowhere in the BBC article do they blame Brexit. (although they do link to yet a further BBC article about generalised problems with the supply chain) So if Polly Toynbee is putting links in her articles maybe she thinks no-one will read the links, but just assume that she's giving supporting evidence.

Then, after using a headline saying: Forget curtains and cash – Johnson’s legacy will be the bitter taste of Brexit in the second paragraph she goes on to discuss the wallpaper for Downing Street. Consistancy of message? No!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Apr 21 - 10:40 AM

Would any of our resident Brexiteers care to comment on or argue against Poly Toynbee's analysis of Brexit?

Johnson’s legacy will be the bitter taste of Brexit


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 29 Apr 21 - 02:44 PM

MPs urge Government to level playing field for meat and seafood exporters

"In its new report—Seafood and Meat Exports to the EU—the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (EFRA) Committee expresses urgent concerns for exporters of highly time-sensitive fresh and live seafood and meat shipments to the EU, particularly small and medium sized businesses.

Despite overcoming initial "teething problems" the new barriers small seafood and meat export businesses face could render them unviable, and factories and jobs may relocate to the EU."

And

"The Committee criticises the fact that controls on EU seafood and meat imports will not commence until 1 October 2021, with checks at the border only commencing from 1 January 2022.

This has placed British businesses at a competitive disadvantage and reduced the incentive on the European Commission to negotiate measures that would lessen the burdens facing British producers."


Seafood and Meat Exports to the EU


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 10:14 AM

Staying safe is my primary principle,
They're all trying to kill me...

By the way, nowt wrong with being a lefty with a respect for discipline..

On law and order issues my views would make many mail and express reader "hang 'em then flog 'em then hang 'em again" tories feel uncomfortably queasy...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 09:56 AM

I didn't need the threat of fines to keep me from following the recommendations. I think it is safe to say that the majority of people didn't need that threat either.

I have guessed that a lot of your previous posts are intended to raise a smile pfr, with your right wing this and your right wing that. I hope that your lurch to authoritarian views,and your dismissal of any contrary views, are not symptoms of either long covid, covid induced psychosis or merely the intended results of the vaccine.

Sunny day here today and a little warmer. I am off to the pub shortly and hope to avoid picking up any fines on my way there and back.

Stay safe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 09:33 AM

Ok, the rules governing fines were carelessly bodged and hastily rushed through by a consistently inept government..

That's easy enough for folks not to disagree with.

This has left the police confused and occasionally overzealous.

But this new committee review will inevitably be appropriated to suit the agenda of opportunist right-wing libertarians,
taking advantage of kind hearted misguided lefty liberal human rights advocates..

The end results being even more positive signals sent out to society's arsholes to continue wilfully riding a wave spreading disease throughout the summer and autumn.

How big a pile of thousands of bodies can be costed in as acceptable collateral damage;
just so a committee of politicians and other idealogues can wallow in their own self-indulgent academic legalistic principles...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 08:55 AM

I don't think they are saying do away with the regulations and enforcement of the regulations. There is mention of 65 changes to the regulations since first introduced. Some police forces have said that the regulations and subsequent changes have been confusing at times. It also remains to be seen if the law has been applied correctly or not.

Will all the fines be paid? I think it is safe to say that they will not. It remains to be seen if they will prosecute people for non payment, given the huge backlog of court cases that we already have.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 07:53 AM

Any labour or liberal politicians backing this crackpot review of fines,
needs to pull their heads out of their arses..

.. and consider the ramifications
of a long summer of selfish reckless fuckwits who know there won't be any punishments for wilfully disobeying rules, and spreading the next lethal wave amongst us..

It's easy to understand tories not wanting to lose their new working class voters at any cost.
But now it appears even the likes of Harriet Harman are putting gaining back votes over heaping piles of thousands of bodies.

She's either blatantly cynical or very naive...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 06:42 AM

From today's Guardian reporting on the same matter.

"Large fixed penalties awarded irrespective of the individual’s circumstances “risk being inherently unjust” and the current system “criminalises the poor over the wealthy”, the committee members warn.

They say there should a graduated approach to FPN amounts and people should not face a criminal record for non-payment, questioning “why a breach of the coronavirus regulations would be relevant to someone’s future employment prospects or ability to travel to certain countries”."

All Covid fines in England should be reviewed say MPs

I think if these cases go to court quite a few will end up being dismissed.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 04:14 AM

Selfish arseholes who flagrantly defied lockdown restrictions, safe distancing, and mask wearing
should not now be let off any fines they received for risking other citizen's health and lives..

This would now send all the wrong signals to the ideologues, zealots, agitators, and all other anti social libertarian covid denier wankers..

Especially the lethal organized element within the tory govt...!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 27 Apr 21 - 03:20 AM

Never sure which thread to use for any subject that has any connection to the UK

From the BBC this morning

"All fixed penalty notices for Covid lockdown breaches, which can be as high as £10,000, should be reviewed - according to a parliamentary committee.

The system is "muddled, discriminatory and unfair", MPs on the Joint Committee on Human Rights argued.

More than 85,000 fixed penalty notices have been issued in England since the pandemic began, and 8,000 in Wales."

Lockdown fines should be reviewed

Hopefully when things finally return to normal, it will be interesting to see how many of these have been paid and/or if they are found to have been invalid.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 26 Apr 21 - 09:19 AM

Signs that we are coming out of lockdown and returning to normality..

The tory backstabbing and throat cutting competition reality show is back on our TVs..

It's always guaranteed top entertainment, and never disappoints keen viewers.
Fans of the show can look forward to a thrilling new season of all the usual ruthless ambition deceit and sleaze
that keeps viewers glued to the screen..

Insider rumours hint this could be a return to the thrills and chilling horrors of the greatest unforgettable villains off classic seasons of the past..

If speculation is true that this might be the last series, we can hope for a gloriously spectacular finale of bloodletting and gore.
With the prospects of future sequels and spin offs, with new cast members and some surviving old Favourites..

Who will they be, is it too much to hope for the shocking surprise return of fan favorites from earlier seasons...???

I'm getting too excited already...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Apr 21 - 05:11 AM

”...fighting internal wars and undermining its own leadership that it is in fighting the worst, most corrupt Tory government in living memory...”

Than it is...!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Apr 21 - 03:57 AM

The problem is that the Conservative Party is dedicated to a culture of selfishness and greed, and is mired in deceit and corruption. In that regard, one Tory is very much like the next - the only answer is for Labour to defeat them soundly at a GE but, while the LP is more interested in fighting internal wars and undermining its own leadership that it is in fighting the worst, most corrupt Tory government in living memory, there’s little or no chance of that happening.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 26 Apr 21 - 02:48 AM

Trouble is, who would replace him? We need someone honest, truthful and compassionate. I don't think there is anyone amongst the current crew who fits the bill.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 26 Apr 21 - 02:33 AM

Looks as though the worms may be turning - even the Daily Heil giving negative reports on Johnson. With the negative reporting currently happening, and his former chief advisor openly inserting the blade between his 3rd and 4th ribs, the campaign to oust Johnson before Christmas seems to be ramping up.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: peteglasgow
Date: 26 Apr 21 - 02:18 AM

of course, i've always thought that representing the interests of 60-70,000 constituents would be a full-time job. doing any other job at the same time would inevitably lead to a conflict of interests and of your MP's time.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: The Sandman
Date: 26 Apr 21 - 01:30 AM

perhaps a law should be passed that MPS should not have any outside representation, that they should only be paid to represent their constituents.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 03:25 PM

”resident apologists" or people who just don't agree with you?”

Whether they agree with me is irrelevant. It’s not a case of opinion, evidence of the corruption of Ali Baba Johnson and The Forty Thieves is piling up. My question is, how will their bewitched and delusional supporters attempt to naysay that evidence?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 11:35 AM

No, sorry Donuel. Apologising for not acknowledging black and Asian troops who were killed in WW1 is acceptable. Trying to justify a government that gets its friends rich by corruption is not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 10:36 AM

Damned if you apologize, damned if you don't.
Does justifiable corruption exist? It depends on who you defend.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 10:27 AM

Anyone trying to justify the corruption of the current administration is an apologist, Rain Dog. If you disagree with that, fine. It still makes you an apologist so your last remark does not make a lot of sense.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 07:44 AM

"resident apologists" or people who just don't agree with you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 07:17 AM

Excellent piece in today’s Independent - I wonder what our resident apologists for the corrupt crooks of the Tory government will have to say about it?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 21 - 04:36 AM

Well done for the 1000 Dave :-)

Couldn't agree more about Cummings. Shifty sod that he is, he has shown in his blog that Bozzer and his pals are a devious and corrupt bunch. I think that they will try to get away with it by brazening it out but it will come back to bite their bums.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 23 Apr 21 - 01:57 PM

Yet again you have to ask who is advising the PM on PR. Is it the same people who were advising the ESL clubs? How some people get paid I will never know.

Will this end up the 1000th post?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: DMcG
Date: 23 Apr 21 - 01:07 PM

Ouch!
It is sad to see the PM and his office fall so far below the standards of competence and integrity the country deserves

I am no fan of Cummings, but I have to agree with him on this one.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: DMcG
Date: 23 Apr 21 - 12:55 PM

OOO! Looks like I get to claim 1000 this time!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 23 Apr 21 - 08:14 AM

Frankly, my dears, I don’t give a damn! ;-) :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 23 Apr 21 - 07:54 AM

Oh, and to anyone but the pickest of nit pickers, BWMs remark was an obvious joke. Of course your response could be a joke too but you are abit less transparent than BWM so it is difficult to tell!


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 21 Apr 21 - 03:17 PM

From The Guardian

Former veterans’ minister Johnny Mercer has launched an extraordinary attack on Boris Johnson’s government, describing it as a “cesspit” and “the most distrustful, awful environment I’ve ever worked in”.

And

This is the most distrustful, awful environment I’ve ever worked in, in government. Almost nobody tells the truth is what I’ve worked out over the last 36 hours.

“And, you know, I don’t think anyone really can get on their high horse about trust and ethics and all the rest of it in politics, because as far as I’m concerned, most of it is a bit of a cesspit.”

Ex-minister unhappy


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 21 Apr 21 - 04:27 AM

brexit + covid + Ever Given = most items on my Amazon wishlist
becoming out of stock, or substantially increasing in price...

[..and severely restricted delivery options for items from Amazon EU]

In 2021 brexiteers are so lucky they have pandemic and a shipping traffic jam to shift the blame on...


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 20 Apr 21 - 02:31 PM

The Kent Access Permit was a scheme introduced to avoid freight vehicles arriving at the ports without the correct export documentation. The fear was that there would be long queues of traffic stuck in Kent. That problem seems to have been avoided. Now people are more aware of what export documentation is required.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: The Sandman
Date: 20 Apr 21 - 02:24 PM

interesting does this mean more bureucracy?
What was the necessity of the kent access permit, it must have been unworkable


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Rain Dog
Date: 20 Apr 21 - 02:15 PM

Some news from Kent

++

Two major measures to avoid HGV congestion after Brexit are being removed in the coming days.

The first to go will be the Kent Access Permit, a document that ensured all lorry drivers had the correct paperwork to cross the border.

Legally-required by all heavy goods drivers entering the county, as of today they will not be needed.

The second scheme to be removed is the M20 contraflow system, with work beginning on Saturday
++

Ferry news

A new freight service is to be launched between Kent and France, creating around 100 jobs.

Ferry operator DFDS says the new freight-only service will start operating between Sheerness and Calais from June.

It will offer one daily sailing in each direction between the two ports on ship Gothia, which can carry up to 165 unaccompanied freight units - which are trailers or containers without drivers.

++
A leading union has hit out at plans for Irish Ferries to run a Dover to Calais service later this year - accusing it of having "an appalling safety record" and crewing its vessels "almost entirely with eastern European seafarers".

The National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers (RMT) says it fears for jobs and the local economy could be at risk when the cross-Channel service launched in June.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 04:26 PM

Weirdly twisted article, obviously a collective effort by a bunch of actvists with bugs up their collective arse. (Slate seems to be controlled by a few "libertarian" cranks).

"Morbidly obese" means life-threatening illness. It would give the kids more chance in life if their parents simply sodomized them every night. Of course social services aren't going to let children get forced into slow death.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 02:01 PM

My link did not work, sorry!

https://slate.com/technology/2021/04/child-separation-weight-stigma-diets.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 01:34 PM

Who was making it news, anyway? Murdoch or Taiwanese-fascist-owned media?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 12:43 PM

I can imagine it might happen anywhere if the parents are deliberately making their kids dangerously obese. Or in cases of Prader-Willi syndrome where the parents can't cope.

There's no policy about it anywhere I know of.


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 09:55 AM

Is this a political thing? It is British but might be New News Not About The Virus...

Putting fat kids in foster care?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Apr 21 - 08:38 AM

Regularly updated tally of job losses due to Brexit:

The Digby Jones Index


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: punkfolkrocker
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 09:21 AM

I saw a little bit of the synchronised funny skip walk behind the coffin...

Now I genuinely admire highly skilled and disciplined military precision,
but they know just how daft they can look...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 09:08 AM

Pfr, I watched it last night, but only from the bit where the band was playing just before he was loaded on to the Landrover - I couldn’t be arsed with all the sycophantic bullshit and bollocks of the preceding couple of hours. Although I’m not particularly enamoured of the Royals, I did regard his death and funeral as very significant events in our history and, as such, worthy of my attention.

But it’s each to his own, eh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Brexit & other UK political topics
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 18 Apr 21 - 09:02 AM

Still a simple matter to zoom in for a close-up, or crop that shot down to a close-up of the Queen, giving the impression of ‘loneliness’ is all I’m saying.


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