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Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III

Stilly River Sage 13 Apr 24 - 11:31 AM
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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Apr 24 - 11:31 AM

We won't be able to watch jury selection, and I don't know if we'll be able to see any of the trial telecast, but there will be reporters popping in and out of the courtroom to update media hosts about the goings on. Important legal maneuvers, grandstanding, etc. Trump says he wants to testify, but the man is physically incapable of telling the truth so my money is on his attorneys talking him out of it lest he face perjury charges.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 13 Apr 24 - 07:59 AM

You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Raggytash
Date: 13 Apr 24 - 06:29 AM

I believe the original quote is accredited to one of your former presidents, Abraham Lincoln, who said:

"“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Apr 24 - 06:21 AM

You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time. To say half of us can be foolish is unrealistic optimism. We can all be foolish some of the time.


In the upcoming trial remember paying hush money is not illegal and doctoring business records through Micheal Cohen is a misdemeanor.
IT IS a felony in campaign finance law to pay/bribe people to hide facts in an election. David Pecker will be a very important witness,


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: The Sandman
Date: 13 Apr 24 - 03:07 AM

However the result of a Trump win is an evil that does deserve attention.
quote Donuel
fifty percent approx of Americans do not agree


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Apr 24 - 07:24 PM

Jury selection starts on Monday but there are lots of ploys his attorneys can try during that process to delay things. A retired judge who worked in the same court has said (on MSNBC) she thinks the jury selection will take the longest, the trail itself is pretty straightforward. She also said the judge will have to set limits - how long to interview each potential juror, and to not let them all bail at the beginning. That said, jurors aren't forced to stay if they feel they can't be fair in their hearing of the case.

It's all to do with the campaign - the first one - and whether money was paid as an illegal donation, etc. It wasn't paid as part of a personal wish to hide it from his wife, it was to do with a wish to hide it from the voters.

The change of venue request was ludicrous - because he himself is talking about this stuff all of the time and there is no corner of the state that hasn't heard about it.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Apr 24 - 06:31 PM

Its too bad Helen can't vote here.

We all know that remaining silent is to be complicit.
Well meaning folks might be silent simply because someone like Trump does not deserve the head space in one's consciousness.
However the result of a Trump win is an evil that does deserve attention.
It is the evil of; might makes right, the ends justify the means, and mass detention and murder.

I need a bumperstiker that sez
If you fail to vote
      Trump
he goes to jail.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 10 Apr 24 - 05:06 PM

A thought-provoking analytical article which I think is worth reading in full:

Donald Trump's anger at a Republican ally highlights his fear of women's voting power ahead of the US election

"Donald Trump may have locked up the Republican nomination with stunning speed, but he is keenly aware of a major hurdle that could stand between him and the White House: women.

"Many Americans who support access to abortion are motivated, angry and ready to punish Republicans — including Trump — at the ballot box on Election Day."

The Democrat strategy is interesting:

"A motivating issue

"President Joe Biden and his campaign are determined not to let Trump take abortion 'out of play'.

"Trump appointed three of the Supreme Court justices that overturned Roe v Wade – the legal ruling that made abortion access a constitutional right – and later claimed credit for the court's decision.

"Democrats are releasing their own videos as they take every opportunity to remind voters that Trump's ultimately responsible for the bans that are spreading across the country."

,,,,

"Meanwhile, in a recent YouGov/CBS poll, 51 per cent of respondents said abortion would be a major factor in their vote for president. Only 17 per cent said it wouldn't be a factor at all.

"And a KFF poll shows it remains a particularly motivating issue for female voters – especially Black women, Democratic women and women in states with abortion bans. One in six women of reproductive age said it was the most important issue for them this election.

"All this makes it easy to see why Trump wants Republicans to pipe down on the issue. But, even if they do, Biden and the Democrats are likely to keep talking about it non-stop.

"'Donald Trump and all those responsible for overturning Roe don't have a clue about the power of women in America,' Biden said after Trump's video release.

"'But they are about to find out'."

One of the comments in the article that I find most interesting is:

"Democrats like to go up against abortion hardliners at the ballot box.

"They've even been known to help anti-abortion candidates win Republican primaries, because they believe those candidates are easier for Democrats to beat."


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Apr 24 - 12:20 PM

The fear of a possible Trump presidency ripples through non-profit organizations like that set up in the name of former president Gerald R. Ford. Famed photographer quits Ford board over Liz Cheney snub
David Hume Kennerly wanted the Trump critic honored with the foundation’s top award.
A Pulitzer Prize-winning political photographer resigned Tuesday from the board of the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Foundation, blasting the group for cowardice in rejecting Trump critic Liz Cheney as the recipient of its top yearly award.

David Hume Kennerly claimed in a letter to fellow trustees that Cheney’s nomination for the Gerald R. Ford Medal for Distinguished Public Service was nixed largely out of fear that Trump would retaliate against the organization if he’s reelected. Cheney, herself a trustee, was rejected three separate times, Kennerly wrote, as other potential honorees declined the award.

Gleaves Whitney, the foundation’s executive director, said in a statement that the foundation’s executive committee, guided by legal counsel, believed it was not “prudent” to give the medal to Cheney given her flirtations with a presidential run.

Giving her the medal during the election cycle, Whitney said, “might be construed as a political statement and thus expose the Foundation to the legal risk of losing its nonprofit status with the IRS.”

Cheney isn't running for president. That possibility went away when the dubious "No Name" group declared that they weren't going to support a candidate.

That said, Trump keeps pointing fingers at anything he doesn't like and his thugs start the torment. Says a few caustic words and hell happens. The man needs to be muzzled.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 10 Apr 24 - 12:07 PM

Former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg sentenced for perjury

Weisselberg still hasn't turned on the mob boss he worked for. Maybe facing five more months at Rikers will cause a last minute deal. We can always hope!


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 10 Apr 24 - 07:14 AM

Donald Trump and his driver were cruising along a country road one evening when a pig ran in front of the car.

The pig was killed.

The President told his driver to go up to the farmhouse and explain to the owners what happened.

About an hour later the driver staggered back to the car with his clothes in total disarray. He was holding a bottle of wine in one hand, a cigar in the other and smiling happily.

“What happened?” asked the President.

“Well,” the driver replied, “the farmer gave me the wine, his wife gave me the cigar, and their beautiful daughter made mad passionate love to me.”

“My God, what did you tell them?” asked the President.

The driver replied: “I just said I was Donald Trump’s driver, and I just killed the pig.”


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 10 Apr 24 - 06:09 AM

Imagine a dictator and his Supreme Court deciding to make other 1864 laws to be left to the States to be enforced like allowing only men to vote. What was whispered might be shouted. There are men who would like to see certain women as commodities to be sold. The South shall rise is a phrase that is coming back.

Naw, it couldn't happen here      again.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Apr 24 - 05:44 PM

The top brass of the US military have filed an Amicus brief with the Supreme Court that advises that giving Trump sweeping immunity will cause domestic chaos by using the military against US citizens and cause global mistrust of the US by our Allies.


Now that's another first!


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 09 Apr 24 - 01:41 PM

Trump lied to the court that no one would give him a bond.
AXOS bank, formerly Internet Bank US, was happy to give him a bond for the full amount. They gave him millions of dollars in loans in the past.
source Rachel Maddow/

In the lieocracy of Liemerica, the abortion remarks of Trump have been followed by the Arizona Supreme Court ruling that a territorial law regarding abortion from 1864 that makes abortion a criminal offense will now be the law of the land.

All the Trump-appointed SC Judges lied when they testilied before Congress that they would not overturn Roe Wade.

House members are now claiming the claims of DC Weekly are true.
DC Weekly is the pillar of Russain propoganda.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 08 Apr 24 - 02:58 PM

This might be the first politically strategic statement I have seen by the Trumpster. It might also be the last, IMO.

Donald Trump says US states should determine abortion law but did not propose a national ban

"In short: Donald Trump has released a video on abortion law.
   
"The presidential hopeful says it should be left to US states to decide, but he did not speak about a national ban.
   
"The issue of abortion is likely to be crucial during this year's election.

"Donald Trump said he still believes abortion laws should be determined by the states but has stopped short of a national ban, choosing a more moderate stance heading into November's general election.

"In a video posted on his social media platform, the former US president said he supported exceptions for rape, incest and to protect the life of the mother. He also reiterated that he supports the availability of in-vitro fertilisation.

"He did not say that he would seek a national ban on abortion if he is returned to the White House, with the issue likely to galvanise voters of both political parties in November's presidential election."

.....

"Since launching his campaign in late 2022, Mr Trump has largely shied away from the topic of abortion.

"The Republican Party has struggled to articulate a message to stop the political fallout after the 2022 ruling overturning the 1973 landmark Roe v Wade decision.

"That move was made possible by Mr Trump's appointment of three conservative justices to the court while president from 2017 to 2021.

"The reversal triggered a voter backlash that was widely credited with curbing Republican gains in the 2022 congressional mid-term elections and propelling Democrats to victories in some state elections last year.

"While Americans tend to accept restrictions on abortion after the first trimester, polls also show that a sizable majority prefer to have the decision made by the patient and her doctor, not the government."


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 04:12 PM

In a separate part of the Trump enterprise (not under indictment yet), it seems that Trump's "Truth Social" was kept afloat by a Russian-American who is a "person of interest" for money laundering and insider trading. Sounds like Trump's kind of guy.

Exclusive: Trump Media saved in 2022 by Russian-American under criminal investigation
Trump’s social media company went public relying partly on loans from trust managed by person of interest to prosecutors
The former US president stands to gain billions of dollars – his stake is currently valued at about $4bn – from the merger between Trump Media and Technology Group and the blank-check company Digital World Acquisition Corporation, which took the parent company of Truth Social public.

But Trump Media almost did not make it to the merger after regulators opened a securities investigation into the merger in 2021 and caused the company to burn through cash at an extraordinary rate as it waited to get the green light for its stock market debut.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 02:38 PM

Questions have arisen about the ability of the bond company to cough up the cash if needed.

Meanwhile, Trump posts that going to jail for violating a gag order would be a "great honor." It would make him "the Modern Day Nelson Mandela."

Many people would certainly think so.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 01:41 PM

From The Guardian,

Trump’s bizarre, vindictive incoherence has to be heard in full to be believed
Excerpts from his speeches do not do justice to Trump’s smorgasbord of vendettas, non sequiturs and comparisons to famous people
Trump’s tone, as many have noted, is decidedly more vengeful this time around, as he seeks to reclaim the White House after a bruising loss that he insists was a steal. This alone is a cause for concern, foreshadowing what the Trump presidency redux could look like. But he’s also, quite frequently, rambling and incoherent, running off on tangents that would grab headlines for their oddness should any other candidate say them.

Journalists rightly chose not to broadcast Trump’s entire speeches after 2016, believing that the free coverage helped boost the former president and spread lies unchecked. But now there’s the possibility that stories about his speeches often make his ideas appear more cogent than they are – making the case that, this time around, people should hear the full speeches to understand how Trump would govern again.

Spend a few minutes reading the article, and find analysis gems like this:
These half-cocked remarks aren’t new; they are a feature of who Trump is and how he communicates that to the public, and that’s key to understanding how he is as a leader.

The New York Times opinion writer Jamelle Bouie described it as “something akin to the soft bigotry of low expectations”, whereby no one expected him to behave in an orderly fashion or communicate well.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 07 Apr 24 - 06:59 AM

The most eye opening documentary on Netflix this year is Anti Social Media. IT is the most compelling but simple explanation of the rise of TRUMP via the internet. It began with nothing to do with him.

I came late to seeing fascism on 4 Chan and other sites. I now have an overview of the entire unfolding of our current situation.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Apr 24 - 09:04 AM

Trump appeal is far more evident with men than women.
There are a few glaring exceptions like Judge Cannon.

Come Monday I will be chased by a Moonshadow, Moonshadow Moonshadow.
There will be folks who lose their eyes
staring straight until they cry...


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Apr 24 - 03:56 AM

Trump is not boring. He is America's Citizen Kane.
Always a paradox, always the narcissist.
Biden wears the white hat and is always honest to his duty and faithful to love. Not as interesting is he?

We expect the Trump story to end in tragedy. It revolves around power and is hard to look away.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 03 Apr 24 - 12:05 AM

We all await the decisions of so many judges. It appears the next bit of drama (possibly before the New York trial starts) is the Justice Department moving to take Judge Cannon off of the Florida documents case. She is doing everything to favor Trump and appears ready to set the date and start a trial, only to dismiss it. If she does that, then the Justice Department can't re-charge him. So they have to take it away from her, now that she appears to be unable or unwilling to do her job.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 02 Apr 24 - 03:22 PM

It is reported that his gag order has been expanded following his attack on the judge's daughter. I dunno how or what effect it will have.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 02 Apr 24 - 08:32 AM

Truth Social's stock price valuation has fallen 20%, according to BBC Red Button. What it's truly worth .... I couldn't possibly comment. The look on Tr*mp's face: priceless.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 24 - 06:13 PM

Oh, and there is always celebrating freedom and liberty
by removing both.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Apr 24 - 05:47 PM

Be it, religion, Wall Street, or the rule of law Trump has used each in a perverse and reverse way to rule the day.

He is the money changer selling religious souvenirs AND the Christ indicted for our sins.

Truth Social stock is being deliberately overvalued for the benefit of a rich guy. Game Stop was deliberately overvalued for the small investor.

The laws and statutes for the protection of a fair court and accused are being used for abject delay. Justice delayed is justice denied.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 01 Apr 24 - 04:47 PM

I saw a brief mention of Trump spreading dirt on Joe Biden by posting an image from the side of a truck of Mr Biden hog tied. Will he get charged with inciting violence on social media? I hope he does.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Apr 24 - 04:17 PM

Since Trump was able to smear Fani Willis in Georgia, he's moving on to the next case and trying to smear the daughter of the judge in the New York fraud case. If he can get some hearings based upon his lies, delays might happen. The gag order needs to be tightened.

It has been suggested that Trump is being so aggressive toward Merchan's daughter because if he is found in contempt of court, Trump can appeal that. Another delay.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 01 Apr 24 - 03:28 PM

The Economist is also a good source for factual news but you are limited to the number of articles you can open


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Mar 24 - 05:06 PM

In case you had not realised, ITV stands for Independent TeleVision. Its news is ITN - Independent Television News. Which gave us the original "news at ten" programme. A very good and impartial in depth news piece.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 31 Mar 24 - 01:08 PM

As I would have continued before I suffered contributus interruptus ....

The Beeb is supposed to be impartial. Sadly, there's a tendency for it to lean in the direction of whichever party happens to be in power in the Commons, as it knows which side its licence fees are buttered on. Then there's the perception problem: whichever side is in opposition will perceive, loudly, that the Beeb leans towards the side in power. (In particular, when Labour are in power, the Tory press goes rabid.) And that's before we consider who appoints the Director General.

Well noted about Channel Four, BWM. I'd see that more if they did a rolling-news channel .... but then they'd get noticed more, and draw unwelcome attention.

PS: Point of order: Who was it that said that the fourth estate was a fifth column? a masterfully mixed metaphor.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 31 Mar 24 - 12:38 PM

The Independent and The i Newspaper are the ones I regard as being the best for impartiality, and those are the ones I (mostly) read and trust. Also I’m inclined towards the Guardian - although I have less faith in its impartiality, its political bias is the right way (Left, actually!) for my taste.

For TV news, I’m pretty trusting of Channel Four News, which seems to have wider scope than BBC News. The BBC is, of course, headed up by a number of rabid Tory supporters so, although it’s supposed to be impartial, I strongly suspect a bias towards the Right.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Mar 24 - 10:25 AM

That's what I wondered about. Rupert Murdoch is one I avoid; his version of news isn't good for anyone.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: MaJoC the Filk
Date: 31 Mar 24 - 10:23 AM

Personally, I get my news from the satire shows (The News Quiz, the late lamented Now Show) on the Bee, and the New European, on a weekly basis. The daily news feeds concentrate on the froth on top of the wave; I'd prefer to keep tabs on the tide underneath both.

Climate is what you expect; weather is what you get.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Mar 24 - 10:16 AM

BBC is the national TV station, owned by the government and funded by TV licence fees so ad free. ITV is independent and funded by advertising revenue so was the first alternative to the BBC. There are now others such as channel 4 and channel 5 which encompass a whole gamut of other independent channels. Sky and Sky news is owned by Rupert Murdoch and while it is not as biased as Fox, I would be careful of any editorial comment from them.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 31 Mar 24 - 10:05 AM

Thanks for that rundown of the options. This is what I see when I search for ITV. It looks like it's a television or radio channel there? Probably works a lot like National Public Radio with it's website - the stories on the page are often the transcriptions of the story you can listen to. It also offers an upgrade - is that ad free or something else?

One that has promoted itself over here via YouTube is Sky News. Where do they land in accuracy and leanings?

I grew up near the US/Canada border and used to watch Canadian channels all of the time, but am out of the habit. It looks like the news blockage doesn't go both ways, I can see and read CBC. (Before we lost gnu I was in the habit of copying whole articles and pasting them into messages so he could read them, after that law last year started blocking US news content.)


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Mar 24 - 08:33 AM

I forgot the Daily Express which is another rag.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 31 Mar 24 - 06:35 AM

I don't think that any of them offer anything better but they do offer US news that is equal to your own newspapers. They all have correspondents that live and work in the States and ensure that the reports from them are an accurate reflection of what is actually going on. The focus of UK media will inevitably have a UK bias but that does not make them unreliable. For your information the BBC and ITV news are pretty factual as are most newspapers. The ones I would not rely on and fall in the sensationalist category are, in my opinion, the Sun, the Daily Mail and the Daily Mirror. The Times and the Telegraph are pretty right wing but generally report facts. The Guardian and the Independent are probably the most unbiased.

And sorry you had to wait for the reply but the time difference meant I have been asleep for most of it.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 05:35 PM

When the US senate was in GOP hands McConnell stacked the judicial deck as much as he could. What McConnell did to the US was leave it vulnerable to the machinations of the Trump and Federalist Society ilk. Watching all of the moving parts is where Americans are focused, those who want to shore up the US Democracy. If we end up with a three-fer, with Biden, a Democratic Senate and a Democratic House (each of the two later with enough of a majority to work past the nutcases who would burn the house down), some of these things must get fixed. And the Supreme Court will gain at least two more members.

We're not looking to Al Jazeera for strategy in the US elections. They are helpful when telling us how Israel is misbehaving (something the US also needs to address - Netanyahu must go - to prison.) The Guardian and BBC are in my news feed on a couple of social media, but usually if one hits a link to other UK papers or sites it is sensational stuff to do with the royal family or some lamebrain thing Piers Morgan has uttered. What UK news source offers a better outlook on US politics than a range of mainstream US papers? I await your list.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 04:39 PM

James Carville says there is a double hater vote and F it all voters that could go to a 3rd candidate. Biden doesn't have many F it all voters but Trump probably does. So if a third candidate does get in all the states it probably won't hurt Biden that much.

F it all is not to be confused with the SNL pharmaceutical Fukital.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 03:50 PM

More accurately the little pig went wee, wee, wee all the way home.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 02:53 PM

Polls have just become another source of disinformation.
In 2016 Trump polls said he was 12% ahead. He wasn't.
This is an era not unlike McCarthyism when people will not respond truthfully when asked a political question because of a fear of exposure or retribution. It is hard to know who is doing the asking.

Even if a poll is named Honest Injun I don't know how truthful it is.




Rhetorically there are different meanings and inclusions of the word 'we'. There is a universal we, a corporate we, and a personal we. ...and this little piggy went we we we all the way home.
then there is wee wee. I hope we are above questioning what the meaning of is is.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Helen
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 02:50 PM

I am certain that SRS is referring to the American voters who will decide in November.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 12:11 PM

So, people on an obscure folk music forum are working to prevent Trump becoming president?

He must be quaking in his boots...

Maenwhile our unreliable UK news and news from the rest of the world (Try Al Jazeera for instance) is telling us we should be really worried. Sorry if that doesn't fit with the Mudcat view :-(


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 11:56 AM

Sandman, you're reading your unreliable UK news. You folks need to stop telling Americans what you fear most - we're working to prevent it and your constant harping is just annoying. Don't jinx us. There is a lot of nuance in the political churn here that you aren't privy to.

Yup, Lighter, most of the actual cases of illegal votes are coming from the GOP side of the ledger. Here in Texas, Mason should be planning a lawsuit for the lost time, jobs, and extra incarceration she was subjected to.

And yes, Don, the ACLU has landed on the wrong side of a couple of recent battles, when the GOP person claiming their speech rights were violated was attempting to do real harm with their claims or lies.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Lighter
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 07:58 AM

And there's this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/28/georgia-republican-illegal-voting/


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Donuel
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 07:17 AM

favopurite sounds like a hand sanitizer.
The woman who was imprisoned for voting did not even cast a real ballot. She voted on a provisional ballot which is not counted.
She was basically guilty of voting while black.

Perhaps you do not see an actual Trump supporter below the line here.
Because of extreme cancel culture woke liberalism they have each been eliminated and in some cases have subsequently died. A moderator would claim it is done to eliminate conflict or danger. Having different points of view is a given but putting a POV into social media has led to death threats, violence, and mayhem. A different liberal would argue that they would fight to preserve free speech even for political cultists or Nazis. It is an unsettled debate but it does have an element of extremism on both sides. For a nongovernmental entity, true free speech is not a Constitutional guarantee, so case closed.

Here is an example of dangerous; words, drawings and documents.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Raggytash
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 07:00 AM

Thank you for your explanation SRS.

As for your comment "You can AND SHOULD simply ignore the posts you don't like or understand" I was brought up and educated to ask questions all the time. Not to do so would result in ignorance, a state that is far too prevalent.


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: The Sandman
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 03:23 AM

Trump is favopurite to be next president


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Subject: RE: Trump INDICTED x4 NO new Trump threads part III
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 30 Mar 24 - 12:30 AM

Trump's followers are broken and they love to support each other in their evil endeavors. There was a famous case in the US of Crystal Mason, from the county where I live, who was absurdly charged, sentenced, and threatened with five years of prison for voting. She had previously served time but thought she had fulfilled all of the requirements to regain her voting rights. The GOP politicians in Texas have hounded and harassed her since 2016. By being charged (even though she wasn't guilty) she had to return to prison to serve more time from the earlier conviction; she shouldn't have had to do that. And then she was out on a bond all of this time while her case was on appeal. This is those broken GOP folks doing everything they can to torment people like Mason who is both Black and a Democrat. Texas appeals court overturns Crystal Mason’s conviction, 5-year sentence for illegal voting.

You can AND SHOULD simply ignore the posts you don't like or understand or because you have a bone to pick with who started it. Move along, there is nothing to see here. Steve Shaw got kicked out for fighting and is not coming back. Don't follow his example.


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