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Lyr Req: King Karactacus / Caractacus

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KING CARACTACUS
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Subject: King Karactacus (?)
From: Shula
Date: 27 Aug 97 - 10:43 PM

I'm looking for the words to a children's song called (?) "King Karactacus," a nonsense song about an oriental potentate whose entourage increases with each verse. Can anyone remember this oldie, and share the lyrics?


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Subject: Lyr Add: KING CARACTACUS
From: rechal
Date: 27 Aug 97 - 11:06 PM

KING CARACTACUS

Oh, the ladies of the harem of the court of King Karactacus
Were just passssssssing by.
Oh, the ladies of the harem of the court of King Karactacus
Were just passssssssing by.

Oh, the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Karactacus
Were just passssssssing by.
Oh, the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Karactacus
Were just passssssssing by.

Oh, the boys who powdered the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Karactacus
Were just passssssssing by.
Oh, the boys who powdered the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Karactacus
Were just passssssssing by.

Oh, the fascinating witches who put the stitches on the britches of the boys who powdered the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Karactacus
Were just passssssssing by.
Oh, the fascinating witches who put the stitches on the britches of the boys who powdered the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Karactacus
Were just passssssssing by.

And if you want to see the fascinating witches who put the stitches on the britches of the boys who powdered the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Karactacus
YOU CAN'T!
They just passed by.

That's all I remember.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: alison
Date: 27 Aug 97 - 11:31 PM

Hi

I seem to remember it as

"Oh, the fascinating witches who put tantalising stitches in the britches of the boys ............."

slainte

Alison


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Murray
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 01:18 AM

--But you have to start with "The King of Karactacus is just passing by" [three times], then [I have no court in my version, but you can have] "The court of the K of K is just passing by" [three times}, etc. etc. I haven't seen all those fascinating variations though.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Judy
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 02:54 AM

"Oh, the fascinating witches who put tantalising stitches in the britches of the boys ............."

I seem to remember it was scintillating stitches.

I have heard the song sung by Rolf Harris (The bearded Australian singer / wobble board player / painter)


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 03:05 AM

G'day,
Caractacus (I think the spelling is a bit closer) was a real person,not oriental. He was a native Briton and Roman citizen (I think) who attempted to defend his country against the invading Saxons when the Romans pulled out of England.

Cheers,
Alan


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: rechal
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 10:34 AM

I believe "scintillating" is the version I learned (20 years ago--yikes!)


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Jon W.
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 11:25 AM

This page has a short bio of Caratacus - he was actually a Briton leader resisting the Roman invasion at the time of Emporer Claudius. I remembered something about that from the PBS mini-series "I Claudius." The person Alan describes sounds more like Ambrosius Aurelianus, also bio'ed on the same page.

Not to beat a dead horse, or anything.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 11:41 AM

Don't you just hate it when you make a mistake & can't get back on for hours? Jon, you are right of course, at least I spelt it right :) and got the right country. Oh well, it's been a long time and memory fades. (Stick to Electronics Alan, you're a better engineer than historian.)

Wes Hael,
Alan


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Earl
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 12:36 PM

rechal, I'm pretty sure I heard that song at least 30 year ago.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Shula
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 05:23 PM

Bless you all!

Alrighty then, now that we have some lyrics, could someone possibly refresh my memory of the tune? (Perhaps a recording, somewhere?)

Thanks to: Rechal, for the whole megillah! Allison, for "stitches." Murray, for Intro. Judy, for "scintillating." (Sounds right to me, too!) Alan of A., for spell check and bio. (Surprised to know he was a Brit.; recently informed Wenceslas wasn't! Scandalous,eh? 'Pon my word! Zut Alors!) Jon W., for the dandy history page.

Now, Earl -- Tsk! Tsk! What has the world come to when a lady can no longer promulgate a gentle fiction regarding the vintage of her memories?!

Thanks, again, to everyone! Shula


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Earl
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 05:57 PM

I thought she must have learned it from her mother.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Shula
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 06:27 PM

Earl: Nice save!


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Susan of DT
Date: 28 Aug 97 - 06:33 PM

Thanx Jon and Alan. As I read the first postings, I was going to put in the historic note. I bookmarked that page, Jon, it's lovely.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: dusterjim
Date: 13 Sep 97 - 03:33 PM

I learned this song a few years back from Richard Mitchell a friend from Canada. He told me that he had learned it from a friend in Australia. When I first heard it, I asked him to write the words down for me, but he told me that you never write the words down, you just learn them. He repeated each verse three times, increasing the speed each time until at the last, he went through it at breakneck speed. I have carried on with the no writing thing (because it's fun to see people try to learn it by singing it),but it would be interesting to see the original words just to see how much it has changed. The verses that I have are just slightly different than the ones that I see here. For one (do I dare write it down) I have stichilating.

dusterjim


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Shula
Date: 14 Sep 97 - 06:29 AM

Dear Dusterjim:

Do, please, let's have your version, (unless actual religious scruple bars you from enscription)! Thanks.

Shula


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Jon W.
Date: 15 Sep 97 - 11:55 AM

Yeah, and if you can't write it down, record it in a .wav file and post it on the web somewhere. For pete sake, how are the rest of us supposed to learn it? Other than here at mudcat, I don't have any Canadian friends who have Australian friends. (shakes his head bemusedly)


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Mar 01 - 08:28 PM

Jerry and Bev Praver sang this at their concert at my house Saturday. they attributed it to Rolf Harris. I'd say it's older. What's the facts?


-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 12 Mar 01 - 09:07 PM

What I've managed to find is "arr. Harris. Black Swan Music (Ldn) Ltd / EMI (P) 1965"  It appears that Rolf expanded a wee song that he found in a Scout campfire songbook; probably half of it is his, but I bet he'd tell you if asked.  Real Audio available at  The Court of King Caractacus by Rolf Harris

Malcolm


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 12:02 AM

Caratacus was a Gaul (Celt) that sucessfully fought the Romans for a long time before he was finally captured, and, if memory is correct, took back to Rome and executed.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 02:46 AM

I e-mailed the Webmaster at http://www.rolfharris.com/ so maybe we'll get a definitive answer.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: wdyat12
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:20 AM

Malcolm, that was a first for me ever hearing that funny song. Thanks for the link. Alison and Judy, I agree with you, "tantilising" instead of "scintillating" would make for a better lyric. I enjoy naughty songs and your interpretation is much naughtier for me.

wdat12


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 07:45 AM

Caractacus was sent back to Rome as a captive but impressed the Romans so much that they gave him a house in Rome and a pension.

In the *BBC* series "I, Claudus" based on Robert Graves novels he was played by Peter Bowles.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Mr Red
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 08:27 AM

Er there was a ceilidh band who called themselves Caractacus Dyke - local to Cheltenham/Gloucestershire. I believe he was King of the Silurians (as in Welsh border/ Cotswold). Not sure if the Dyke was his surname or he built a ditch to keep out the marauding Romans or Mercians.

I can ask this Friday, ex members will be at the Cheltenham Ceilidh Club (3rd Fri) St Lukes Hall, if I can find it this time.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Penny S.
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:38 PM

I seem to remember he was betrayed by a Queen Cartimandua of the Brigantes, to whom he went for support/sanctuary. There was a biography in one of the Eagle/Girl stable of comics, I think.

Penny


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Subject: RE: King Caractacus (?)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 03:44 PM

None of this historic stuff has anything to do with the song, I'll bet. The deep philosophical reason why Caractacus ended up in this song, is that he had a funny-sounding name. It's fun to know the history, though. I thought it was a made-up name until I saw this thread.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: GUEST,Dare not reveal my name!
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 04:56 PM

Rolf Harris recorded this some years ago


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Mar 01 - 05:02 PM

Thanks for the correction, manitas. Earlier than Josephus.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Manitas
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 01:54 PM

Dunno about Josephus (he was quite close in time to the events in question wasn;'t he?)but Graves based his novels on Suetonious(sp?) and such like writers.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: GUEST,Pete Peterson at work
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 02:24 PM

Many Catters have heard the name somewhere else-- in Gilbert and Sullivan's "model of a modern Major-general" Gen'l Staley claims to be able to give you "every detail of Caractacus's uniform" . . . first place I ever heard the name and didn't think of it again till many years later when I saw Ian Fleming's "chitty chitty bang bang" where the inventor was (drum roll please) Caractacus Potts. . . later on in I. Claudius I found why the name might be a good one for Britons


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Subject: RE: King Caractacus (?)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 03:37 PM

Pete, you amaze me. Yeah, I've heard all those references, too.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: MMario
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 03:49 PM

so *THAT's* whose uniform he can detail! I've never quite caught that - and my nephew - who has played the part -- has always refused to tell me.

"Caractacus Potts" is of course also a refernece to "crackpot"


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Mar 01 - 04:17 PM

The King of Karactacus was recorded by the British music hall performers Rich and Rich in the teens of this century. It's on a CD compilation of music hall songs I have but don't have the details handy. The verses they sang were The King of Karactacus has just passed along.... The girls in the harem of the K of K have just..... The maids who use the puff to put the powder on the faces of the girls in the harem of the K of K.... The men who chase the maids who use the puff.... The bunions on the shooses (?) of the men who chase... When they get to the middle of this verse the performers fall apart with mutual recriminations about who screwed it up. It's pretty funny. --Jack McC


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Mr Red
Date: 16 Mar 01 - 07:07 PM

Caractacus - was leader of the the local tribe (Welsh borders - probably Silurians), his celtic name was Ceradoc and he dug a ditch (dyke) to identify his territorial limits. somewhere up in the hills around Stroud. Caractacus was a Latin/Greek name given by the Romans. No more info as Judith (hammered dulcimer) preferred to talk of the band (still available for bookings.......)


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: dusterjim
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 06:35 AM

OK, after 5 years, I repent. Here are the words as I learned them:

Now the ladies of the harum of the court of king Krackacus were just passing by (repeat 3 times)
Now the men who put the powder on the noses of the faces of the ladies of the harum of the court of king Karackacus, were just passing by (repeat 3 X's increasing in speed each time)

Now the stimulating witches put the stichilating stiches in the britches of the men who put the powder on the noses of the faces of the ladies of the harum of the court of king Karackacus, were just passing by (repeat 3 x's increasing in speed each time)

If you want to take some pictures of the stimulating witches putting stichilating stiches in the britches of the men who put the powder on the noses of the faces of the ladies of the harum of the court of king Karackacus, (pause) your to late!, cause they just passed by (do not repeat).

Jim


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: kendall
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 09:20 AM

Bob Zentz is the only one I ever heard sing it.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Willa
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 09:25 AM

I remember it as 'the fascinating witches who put the scintillating stitches'- and Rolf Harris did record it.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Willa
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 09:28 AM

Go to Rolf's website http://www.rolfharris.com/lyrics/court.shtml
and type in 'Court of King Caractacus'


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: kendall
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 02:32 PM

Sounds like a certain crude limerick that I learned from mudcatter, Joan.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 07 Sep 02 - 04:56 PM

A nice (and partly fictional) biography of Caradoc (Caractacus) here: Caradoc


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 08 Sep 02 - 09:32 AM

"Pictures" is pronounced "pitchas," no doubt.

The Rolf Harris link produces a "this page is not available message" so the tune is still in limbo. Any other suggestions? (I know a first grader who would love this song.)


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 08 Sep 02 - 01:13 PM

The Rolf Harris site has lyrics to 15 of his songs including those of "The Court of King Caracticus" but no music, except for a few clips from albums. Go to www.rolfharris.com and navigate from there to get the pages of the site.


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Subject: Lyr Add: King Caracticus
From: GUEST,Wanda
Date: 08 Sep 02 - 03:38 PM

I've always seen it spelled "Caracticus." Is there an official correct (Karact?) spelling? He was a Roman, wasn't he (when the Romans invaded what is now England)? I don't recall Latin having a "k" -- but maybe his name got Germanicized.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: GUEST,Robbyanne
Date: 08 Sep 02 - 09:48 PM

I saw lots of versions of words here, but no one mentioned the MOTIONS that go along with this song! I'm an elementary music school teacher in Alaska, and one of our favorite assembly songs is this one - you haven't lived until you've seen 500 little kids trying to keep up with all the motions as each verse gets faster and faster!! It's a hoot! Love, Robin


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 05:50 PM

Ooo! Robin, please describe the motions!

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 07:17 PM

Caractacus's dyke (as in earthwork) is definitely in the hills above where I live along with about three tumulii. With two hillforts close by at Harescome and Painswick. His fifedom was around here until he went to Rome as a parochial curiosity.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Snuffy
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 07:21 PM

I never knew he played the flute!


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Sep 02 - 02:44 PM

Snuffy
well he probably did a spell of it .......... but it was more likely to be a Severndom being on the escarpement above that river.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: GUEST,andrew.smith@email.com
Date: 24 Feb 06 - 06:12 PM

Where the fook, can I download this song???? Please, please, please email me with a link..... please, please, please..... Google, not, finding..... will to live, leaving.....


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 12:38 AM

Caractacus or Caradoc was actually chieftain of the Catuvellauni, a Gaulish tribe that migrated to Britain a few generations before his time. He unsuccessfully fought Claudius' invasion in A.D. 43, lost and fled to the west, living amongst the Silurians. He became leader of the western tribes' resistance, a kind of high king like Vercingetorix, and fought a very successful guerilla campaign against the occupying legions until AD 51, when he was forced to give open battle. His family was captured and he sought refuge with Queen Cartimandua of the Brigantes in the north. She gave him up to the Roman governor. Caradoc and his family were brought to Rome and allowed to live there in exile for the remainder of their days. He wasn't executed in public like Vercingetorix several years before.

More info here.

A great book, highly recommended, which slightly fictionalizes the events of Caradoc's life as well as that of Queen Boudicca (Boadicea) is The Eagle and the Raven by Pauline Gedge. The historical events and details in the book are quite accurate, from what we know. I picked it up in hardcover back in `81 and have read it and re-read it several times since.

Not that this has much to do with the song, but anyway...


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 03:19 AM

Since Wednesday this week, the Junior Gang (Cubs, Brownies, younger Scouts and younger Guides) of the Grimsby Gang Show have been performing this song on stage. We have two more performances to do today, a matinee and an evening show.

In our sketch, Caractacus is given full recognition, as in the line Hail Great Caractacus; son of Cunobelinus; king of the Catuvellauni; Chief among Chiefs of the tribes of Britannia

We are also singing "Old MacDonlad" in Latin, following a suggestion by Frank Maher in an earlier Mudcat lyric request thread, and the Gladiator song which I learnt from Dave Bryant at the 2004 Euro-gather.

DC


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 06:58 AM

What quay was his fifedom in?


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 03:00 PM

AD


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Big Jim from Jackson
Date: 25 Feb 06 - 05:17 PM

Mudcat's own Seamus Kennedy has a very nice version on one of his CD's that you can get through CD Baby. When he sings it "live" he uses even more lyrics than on the recording. A real fun song.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: GUEST,Anysia
Date: 07 Dec 07 - 06:44 PM

http://artists.letssingit.com/rolf-harris-lyrics-court-of-king-caratacus-lfftwr1

This site will let you download it to your i-pod if you have one so maybe you can play it on your computer. It is a fun song.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Celtaddict
Date: 08 Dec 07 - 09:30 AM

I am sure there are at least as many versions of motions as there are variations in lyrics (or spelling) but here is one, as performed by Danny O'Flaherty; called 'The Ladies of the Harem' it was a big favorite in O'Flaherty's in New Orleans, and usually involved a row of folks up front to 'lead' the group in motions; it was fun to 'draft' someone who had not heard the song before (i.e. a 'Harem virgin') to come up to try. As the song got faster, the attempts at maintaining the motions got funnier. The verses were sometimes compressed, sometimes drawn out.

Oh, the ladies (hands to bosom, cupping movement) of the harem (hands to face, simulating veil) of the court (hands to head, who knows why) of King Caractacus (fingers up like antlers; headdress? crown?) are just passing by (both hands chest level, across front to side in wave-like motion).
The noses (point to nose) on the faces (hands to cheeks) of the ladies...
The powder (motion of getting powder from compact, left hand, onto puff, right hand) on the noses (instead of pointing, act as if powdering nose) on the faces...
The men (two variants: if kids around, arms out flexing muscles; later in evening, both hands, palms in, to crotch area) who put the powder...
The britches (hold out sides of 'trousers'; this looks particularly silly in a skirt) on the men...
The tantalizing stitches (motions of sewing) in the britches...
The fascinating witches (hands over head making pointed hat shape) [who] put the tantalizing stitches...
(the 'who' is usually omitted in the interest of rhythm, and speed by now)
If you want to see (hand over eyes to peer around)
If you want to see (a third higher)(same)
DO YOU WANT TO SEE (another third higher)(same, and 'egging on' motions to crowd to urge them to indicate they want to see,
then racing through the whole bit at breakneck speed to)
You're too late! (hands thrown out in 'what can I do?' gesture)
They just passed by....(waving off to side)


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Celtaddict
Date: 08 Dec 07 - 09:35 AM

Somewhere too there is an old poem (I read it in a 1920s Book of Knowledge encyclopedia from my Dad, but the set is now at my brother's in Tulsa) about the capture of Caractacus. It included one of those quotes that, while he might not have said it (and it would not have sounded so grand in another language anyway) he, or someone, should have. It was something to the effect that while they could capture his body they could not take his real freedom away. Does this ring a bell for anyone?


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 22 Dec 07 - 03:03 PM

Regarding spelling, here's what Wikipedia says:

"Caratacus (Brythonic *Caratācos, Greek Καράτακος; variants Latin Caractacus, Greek Καρτάκης) was a historical British chieftain of the Catuvellauni tribe, who led the British resistance to the Roman conquest. He may correspond with the legendary Welsh character Caradoc and the legendary British king Arvirargus....

"Caratacus' name appears as both Caratacus and Caractacus in manuscripts of Tacitus, and as Καράτακος and Καρτάκης in manuscripts of Dio. Older reference works tend to favour the spelling "Caractacus", but modern scholars agree, based on historical linguistics and source criticism, that the original Brythonic form was *Caratācos, pronounced /ka.ra.taː'kos/, which gives the attested names Caradog in Welsh and Carthach in Irish."


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 22 Dec 07 - 03:41 PM

The above is the scholarly, historic view. However, when it comes to music publishing, all bets are off. The song title has been variously given as--

COURT OF KING CARACTACUS sung by Rolf Harris on his album "Court of King Caractacus," 1964 (and several subsequent collections); and by The Irish Descendants on "Across the Water," 2004. At least one collection featuring Harris' recording has it as COURT OF KING CARACTICUS.

KING CARACTACUS, sung by Seamus Kennedy on "By Popular Demand."

KING CORACTACUS sung by the Paul O'Brien All Stars Band on "Ultimate Children's Party," 2000. Some collections featuring this band call it KING CORACTICUS.

However, much older than all of them is KING OF KARACTACUS sung by Rich and Rich on "Cockney Kings of Music Hall," Saydisc, 1995.

The British Library Sound Archive confirms this spelling and gives the further information of crediting "Layton" as the author, but I have been unable to find a date for that recording.


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Subject: RE: King Karactacus (?)
From: Cattail
Date: 07 Jan 08 - 08:12 PM

If anyone would like the chords and a sample of the song and movements
in a U-Tube sample, they will find them here. (Click on "MY UPDATES")

http://bettylou.zzruss.com/

Find it under "Court of King Caractacus"

Best wishes

Cattail !


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: King Karactacus / Caractacus
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Sep 15 - 05:26 PM

I'm having trouble finding a date for the Rich & Rich recording of "King of Karactacus" by Rich & Rich. I did find a 1907 Variety Magazine that makes mention of Rich and Rich, so that gives an idea when they were performing.

Jack Campin sent me a 1944 edition of the Hackney Scout Song Book that makes mention of a single line from the song: "The King of Caractacus is just passing by," but it doesn't give any more.

Here's the Rich and Rich recording of "The King of Karactacus: -Joe-


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Subject: ADD Version: The King of Karactacus
From: Joe Offer
Date: 08 Sep 15 - 06:42 PM

THE KING OF KARACTACUS
(as recorded by Rich and Rich, early 20th century)

The King of Karactacus was just passing on. (4 x)

The Girls [spoken]: The girls in the harem of the King of Karactacus was just passing on. (4 x)

The Powder: The powder on the faces of the girls in the harem of the King of Karactacus was just passing on. (4 x)

The Maids: The maids who use the puffs to put the powder on the faces of the girls in the harem of the King of Karactacus was just passing on. (4 x)

The Men: The men who chase the maids that use the puffs to put the powder on the faces of the girls in the harem of the King of Karactacus was just passing on. (4 x)

The Bunions: The bunions on the toeses (?) of the men who chase the maids that use the puffs to put the powder on the faces of the girls in the harem of the King of Karactacus was just passing on. (4 x)

[The song ends in confusion, and has no real ending.]


Transcribed from the CD, Cockney Kings of Music Hall - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2_o-yNBuzQ


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: King Karactacus / Caractacus
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 08 Sep 15 - 09:53 PM

There's a parody, called The Judge That Liked To Gamble, at http://www.miguelheatwole.com/lyrics.html#217

Words by Dave Kennedy, sung by John Ross on the double CD, The People Have Songs. It ends with,

If you're from the National Times
And you'd really like to find
All the cops and tape-recorders
Who were following the orders
Of the crooked politician
Seen on national television
With the well known racing figure
Taking compromising pictures
Of the judge that liked to gamble
With the payoffs that he handled
At the court of petty sessions...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: King Karactacus / Caractacus
From: GUEST,threelegsoman
Date: 09 Sep 15 - 03:22 AM

There are plenty of helpful versions of the lyrics in the above thread, so here is a link to my YouTube version: The Ladies of the Court of King Caractacus

As with most of my videos, this includes the lyrics and chords on-screen.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: King Karactacus / Caractacus
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Sep 15 - 04:51 AM

Nicely done, threelegsoman.
Cheers!
-Joe-


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE COURT OF KING CARACTACUS (Rolf Harris
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 11 Sep 15 - 08:08 AM

Rolf Harris is credited as the writer of this version, although it is obviously derived from an earlier song, of which Rich and Rich's is an example.


THE COURT OF KING CARACTACUS
As recorded by Rolf Harris on "The Court of King Caractacus" (1964)

1. Now the ladies of the harem of the court of King Caractacus were just passing by. (4x)

2. Now the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Caractacus were just passing by. (4x)

3. Now the boys who put the powder on the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Caractacus were just passing by. (4x)

4. Now the fascinating witches who put the scintillating stitches in the britches of the boys who put the powder on the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Caractacus were just passing by. (4x)

5. Now if you want to take some pictures of the fascinating witches who put the scintillating stitches in the britches of the boys who put the powder on the noses on the faces of the ladies of the harem of the court of King Caractacus YOU'RE TOO LATE!
Because they just passed by.


[Note: after the first line of verses 1 and 2, he interjects: "All together!" He seems to be performing before a live audience, and they are making a valiant effort to sing along.]


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