Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: kendall Date: 22 Dec 00 - 08:37 AM Did you ever wonder why the state of Maine intrudes so far into Canada? |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: NightWing Date: 21 Dec 00 - 11:45 AM Amusingly enough, the Internet Oracle just commented on this issue:
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BB, P.S. I sure hope I didn't screw up the formatting on this *cross fingers* |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: MMario Date: 21 Dec 00 - 11:31 AM well now that the Queen doesn't speak the Queen's English anymore, we might as well subvert the fearless poultry of the border patrol and raid the maple syrup bombs to make snow ice-cream |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Irish sergeant Date: 21 Dec 00 - 11:25 AM My apologies about the American comment. It was ment A) in friendship and to B) note that we are all citizens of the american hemispheres (North and South America) not to imply any sort of domination by the United States. As a citizen of the US and an amateur student of out history, I must point out, that while the war seems to be a draw, the United States did lose the war. Victory in war (or any other diplomatic endevour) is defined as attaining your goals. American goals in the War of 1812 included settling boundry disputes with British North America, ending impressment of U.S. sailors, ending British aid to Native American warriors, Fishing rights disputes etc. Most of these issues were settled not by the war or the treaty of Ghent which ended it but rather by mutual discussion after hostilites had ceased and calmer heads prevailed. While American troops performed well in most instances. The majority of battles went to the British forces and the Canadian militiamen who fought with them. This is not to say that American troops were cowards. However, the leadership shown in the army for the most parts was inadequate. The calibre of the individual American fighting man was far better than the leadership they recieved. New Orleans was the one truely notable American victory. The Navy did well but was not equal to combatting the Royal Navy which was not only well manned but had experienced combat veterans. (As did the British Army) a result of almost fifteen years of conbtinual combat against French forces. The Americans werer fighting with the Native American tribes in their efforts to expand westward but were, as our history shows was usually the case, undermanned and unprpared to fight the war. Never mind the war, let's just sign a mutual assistance treaty. name a price and send us some decent beer. Happy holidays to all. Kindest reguards, Neil |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Jimmy C Date: 20 Dec 00 - 05:45 PM Steve, I played hurling for 13 years, averaging 3 games per week (weather permitting). I was only injured once, by an older brother who was on the opposing team. I would love to have played lacrosse and hockey, yet I would never race a car or motorcycle, bungee jump, parachute nor would I play cricket. If one were to get hit by a cricket ball then serios injury would result, that thing is hard. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Steve Latimer Date: 20 Dec 00 - 10:30 AM Jimmy C, He'd probably seen a Hurling game. I grew up playing hockey and Lacrosse and Hurling (Hurley?) is the craziest game I've ever seen. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Jimmy C Date: 20 Dec 00 - 08:57 AM I guess ss he could always have given the Notre dame Fighting Irish hockey sticks as well just to keep it even. There is a story of trying to start a hockey team at Notre dame, I think it was the football coach Knute Rockney (sp) who was against putting big sticks in the hands of Irishmen. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: ddw Date: 20 Dec 00 - 12:06 AM Good one, Jimmy C — but I have to admit when the hockey team joined the Canucks I figured Clinton would concede. ANY number of Canajuns with hockey sticks is dangerous..... LOL, David |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Troll Date: 19 Dec 00 - 10:31 PM He may have. He keeps re-inventing himself so often it's kinda hard to tell what he really HAS done. troll |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: NightWing Date: 19 Dec 00 - 05:20 PM Gee, that's surprising! I thought Al invented Canada. *LOL*
BB, P.S. I'm a Dem, but that don't mean I can't make fun of pomposity where I see it. *G* |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Troll Date: 19 Dec 00 - 05:14 PM I just heard that Al Gore says that the idea for a war with Canada was his. We are awaiting confirmation of this report. troll |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: InOBU Date: 19 Dec 00 - 03:33 PM Hey guys, I think I have 't say JimmyC wins the war, eh? He really got the feel of it, eh? So, a Yankies Baseball hat and a Hamburger followed by Moose pie and a Molsens, or a Labat, eh? My hat is oof to ya fer sure. Cheers, Larry |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Jim Krause Date: 19 Dec 00 - 03:00 PM Actually, as one Canadian once pointed out to me, the US and Candad already tried having a war, the War of 1812. It was pretty much of a draw, really. The Canadians captured Mackinaw Island, but we got it back in the treaty, Detroit changed hands a couple of times, Lundy's Lane was pretty much of a draw, the Canadians retained the field of battle, but both sides suffered pretty sever casualties. Nope, actually the only places where the US really came out ahead were the Battle of Lake Erie, and New Orleans. New Orleans may not count, technically since it was fought after the treaty was signed, and it pitted Andy Jackson's Americans against Packenham's English and Scots. All in all, I think it's probably a pretty bad idea. Nothing for either side to gain, eh? |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Clinton Hammond2 Date: 19 Dec 00 - 02:52 PM LOL! Good one Jimmy! ;-) |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Jimmy C Date: 19 Dec 00 - 02:42 PM > > > Subject: Canadian optimism. > > Clinton was sitting in his office when his telephone rang. > > > "Hello! Mr. Clinton," a strange accented voice said. "This is Tommy up Canada. Eh, I am ringing to inform you that we are officially declaring war on you!, eh" > > > "Well, Tommy " Clinton replied, "this is indeed important news! Tellme, how big is your army?" > > > "At this moment in time," said Tommy after a moment's calculation,thereis myself, my cousin Bob, my next door neighbour Bill, and the entire dominoes team from the pub - that makes eight! Eh" > > > Clinton sighed. "I must tell you Tommy that I have ten million men in my army, waiting to move on my command." > > > "I'll have to ring you back!" said Tommy.
Sure enough, the next day Tommy rang back. "Right Mr.Clinton, the war is still on! We have managed to acquire some equipment! Eh"
Sure enough,Tommy rang again the next day. "Right, Mr. Clinton, the war is still on! We have managed to get ourselves airborne! We've modified Ted's ultra light with a couple of rifles in the cockpit and the hockey team has joine us as well! Eh"
"I'll have to ring you back." said Tommy
Sure enough, Tommy called again the next day. "Right Mr.Clinton, I am sorry to tell you that we have had to call off the war.eh."
"I'm sorry to hear that," said Clinton. "Why the sudden change of heart?" |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Amergin Date: 19 Dec 00 - 02:03 PM So what's the news from the Idaho Panhandle? I want news from home.... |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Troll Date: 19 Dec 00 - 02:01 PM So gimme a break. It's hard to spell with tears of laughter in your eyes. troll |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Troll Date: 19 Dec 00 - 01:59 PM Very gald you didn't. Best laugh I've had all day. Thank you. What a hoot. troll *ROTFLMAO* |
Subject: LATEST NEWS FROM THE FRONT From: NightWing Date: 19 Dec 00 - 01:49 PM AP - Reuters Sorry, folks. Just couldn't resist *G*
BB, |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: mkebenn Date: 19 Dec 00 - 07:44 AM Dubya's as Texan as Ted Kennedy, why would we want Quebec, english and spanish are enough to deal with, and I live outside of Buffalo on the WRONG side of the lake in winter. Mike Bennett |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Troll Date: 18 Dec 00 - 11:14 PM Wouldn't work Larry. Even a Texan has SOME pride. troll ***ducking and running for cover*** |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: InOBU Date: 18 Dec 00 - 09:29 PM Gee, maybe the outcome of the war can be an arrainged marrage between Critien and GWB? - Larry |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: ddw Date: 18 Dec 00 - 09:26 PM Yeah, and if you think Dubya's out to lunch, you should listen to the gibberish Canada's erstwhile leader — Jean Chretien — can come out with. I know bilingual reporters who have covered him, and they say he mangles French almost as badly as he does English. david |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: InOBU Date: 18 Dec 00 - 09:19 PM Having attended trials in Sept Illes, where Innu elders, who spoke no English or French, were tried for tresspass on their own land, without benifit of translation into Innu,... I can believe the above. Larry |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: ddw Date: 18 Dec 00 - 09:15 PM If you guys want a real swap, how 'bout Canada takes Detroit and the U.S. takes Quebec? Sound like a great deal for the U.S.? Consider this — off the wires tonight: By Idella Sturino The Canadian Press MONTREAL
A rural Quebec couple selling maple syrup through an English-only Web site will ask the courts to rule whether the province's language laws apply to the Internet. I think the only reason the U.S. has Detroit now and Canada has Quebec is that the U.S. had first choice. david |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Troll Date: 18 Dec 00 - 07:22 PM Don't want the West Coast and Florida, huh? You guys are smarter than you look. And Alex, for your information, I voted for Bugs Bunny. Get off it Skeptic. You don't even know where those places are. I've still got your atlas, remember? troll |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Devilmaster Date: 18 Dec 00 - 07:14 PM besides, i live in windsor, cross the river to detroit all the time.... it aint that bad of a city..... |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Devilmaster Date: 18 Dec 00 - 07:12 PM Its not self-righteousness, but your only offering detroit and neil diamond.... why not maui or oahu, with cindy crawford.... more of a fair deal..... |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: mousethief Date: 18 Dec 00 - 06:40 PM Now Devilmaster, don't get me started on Canadian self-righteousness. I've been really nice so far. Alex |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Devilmaster Date: 18 Dec 00 - 06:36 PM hey, i dont want your hand-me-down cities, MT..... |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: mousethief Date: 18 Dec 00 - 06:33 PM Look, can we just get you guys to take back Detroit and Neil Diamond, and call it pax? All this other stuff is going to be too contentious. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Devilmaster Date: 18 Dec 00 - 06:33 PM No deal, Troll. you just want those two provinces for the good beer and great people. (not to mention the backwoods hooch! burp!) speakin of beer......... (chsssshhhhh, glug, glug, glug, glug..... ahh.) |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Pixie Date: 18 Dec 00 - 06:32 PM Objection!!!! Speaking as an honourary Maritimer, I do not want to become a citizen of the US! Why don't you guys take Quebec???? Pixie |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Skeptic Date: 18 Dec 00 - 06:22 PM Alex Thank you Regards John |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: mousethief Date: 18 Dec 00 - 04:46 PM Speak for yourself, Troll. We Ecotopians have no desire to be under the Canadian government, and have them rape our forests the way they're doing to BC's. Oh wait, I forgot. You vote Republican. Alex |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Troll Date: 18 Dec 00 - 04:02 PM Tell ya what. You guys can have the entire West Coast AND Florida and we'll take Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. Deal? troll |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Steve Latimer Date: 18 Dec 00 - 02:51 PM Mousethief; Them's fightin' words. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: GUEST,John Leeder Date: 18 Dec 00 - 02:44 PM Come west, Mike, and try some Big Rock. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: mousethief Date: 18 Dec 00 - 02:13 PM Perhaps we should declare war on Canada just to force them to take back Detroit. And Neil Diamond. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Steve Latimer Date: 18 Dec 00 - 01:49 PM Welcome to Canada Mike, Sleemans is only a start. Moosehead, Alexander Keiths and a bunch of good Micro Breweries combined with a lot of fine music should entice you. I woul recommend that you wait until April to start your March, it's usually bearable here by then. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: GUEST Date: 18 Dec 00 - 01:18 PM Hell, I'll march north just for the Sleeman's Honey Brown. Mike Bennett |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: GUEST,John Leeder Date: 18 Dec 00 - 12:19 PM Don't forget the ever-popular War of 1812, North American Sector. Peter Whalley wrote, "Little is known about the War of 1812 because the Americans lost." Actually it was more of a draw -- but a draw between the U.S. and British North America as it existed in 1812 was actually a win for us. We burned Washington, you burned York (now known as Toronto) -- not exactly an even swap in those days. Even nowadays, burning Toronto would be seen as doing us a favour by the rest of the country. (I'm being facetious, as a former Torontonian, back in the days when it was liveable.) Some sources give a lot of credit to the Canadian militia, others say the British regulars won it all and the local contribution was negligible. Choose your historian with care, to support whichever version of the legend you prefer. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Willie-O Date: 18 Dec 00 - 09:22 AM Irish Sarge, I know you mean it in a friendly way but we don't want to be "Americans". I have gone on at length about this before...suffice it to say that we prefer to keep the St Lawrence River, the Great Lakes and the 49th parallel between us and youse Americans. Even without the likes of R Barr, T Lott and WJ Clinton aside, we have enough assholes up here already! the You Ess has no monopoly on producing them... Interestingly enough we would also regain dominion over Neil Young and who needs that... Dave TAM, I completely agree with you about the deficiencies of our current government--even if not about the solution! W-O |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Irish sergeant Date: 18 Dec 00 - 09:12 AM Personally I'm against a war with Canada. Why should we do to them what we've done with this country? I really didn't want to see GWjr inflicted on this country. Why would I wish that on Canada? I do hope in all seriousness, we're all having a little bit of fun and this doesn't become an ugly thread. I am proud to be an American but Dad was born in North Bay, Ontario. (We Americans should remember that anyone from either North or SOuth America is an American) Having said that I have to ask the Canadians Do yopu really want dominion over Rosanne Barr? Think about this for a second! You'd also have to have dominion over such stellar personages as Newt Gingrich, Trent Lott, Charles MAnson and dare I say it, Bill Clinton. Kindest reguards, Neil |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: GUEST Date: 18 Dec 00 - 08:58 AM Well, I sure wouldn't want to invade a place that call a hockey team "the Ducks:, doesn't have Tim Hortons, thinks South Park is funny and elects Gw as President. Nope, I'll just stay here and watch it all from a distance...a safe ditance. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Devilmaster Date: 17 Dec 00 - 11:24 PM excuse me..... ask metro-dade |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Devilmaster Date: 17 Dec 00 - 11:24 PM hey troll, how hard is it to count 37 votes? add metro-dade....... |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: Troll Date: 17 Dec 00 - 09:06 PM How hard is it to count 37 votes? ***BG*** troll |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: GUEST Date: 17 Dec 00 - 08:25 PM Our riding had a judicial recount, which was completed in one day plus one evening. T.W. |
Subject: RE: The war betwn the US & Canada From: ddw Date: 17 Dec 00 - 07:16 PM Here in Windsor the ones who realize they're part of Canada still think Canada WON the War of 1812 — they made the U.S. keep Detroit. ;-) david |
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