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Subject: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Feb 01 - 11:26 AM This is a music thread. Work with me here, and read on. Ash Wednesday follows Shrove Tueday (Fat Tuesday, Mardi Gras) this week. In our denomination, and many others, an ashen cross is worn on the forehead to signify our faith, on this day. For many, Lent is a season of penitential denial-- people "give things up." In our church, Hardiman urges us to ADD things we'd like to make larger parts of our faith journey. To do this we have to, sometimes, give up certain things to make more room for the good things. (One can give up complaining, for example, in order to make more room for celebrating.) Now Sundays in Lent (and by extension, our Saturday night service) are not actually part of Lent-- they are celebratory, not penitential... festivals within the larger season of Lent. Prayerful and reflective, certainly, as we consider the holiday that approaches, but not grim! So-- my QUESTION is, what music might you suggest to me for this year's Lenten season? Hymns and other music-- for I will be playing my way through this Lent, you see, at home, with friends, and in church... What would fit with the Lent I have just described? Or, what are you planning for your Lenten music? And hey-- GOD BLESS MUDCAT DIVERSITY. ~Susan } + : ~ ) > |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 26 Feb 01 - 12:09 PM Oh there's this GREAT one, called "Lift High The Cross". This Ash Wednesday is particulary meaningful to me. Last Ash Wednesday was the first time we went to the Newman Center...the first time we had been to church in 5 years. Now a year later we are confirmed, making positive things happen in our community, and our 2nd beach trip is being planned! Whoopee! |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: SINSULL Date: 26 Feb 01 - 12:21 PM Odd Praise but I can't recall a single bit of church music for Ash Wednesday. But Easter hymns were always my favorite - "Ye Sons and Daughters". For Good Friday "At The Cross Her Station Keeping". A mother's worst nightmare. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: nutty Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:13 PM It's easy to forget that carols are to be sung all the year round and the OXFORD BOOK OF CAROLS has an extremely good selection for this time of year A particular favourite of mine is THE FLOWER CAROL .. sixteenth century (NUMBER 99) which had it's words rewritten and became Good King Wenslas ....... the original is so much nicer Also from 16/17th century is Candlemas Eve by Herrick Altogether 20 Carols are specifically designated for lent........ particularly number144 called WHITE LENT Now quit your care And anxious fear and worry For schemes are vain And fretting brings no gain To prayer, To prayer Bells call and clash and hurry In Lent the bells do cry Come buy , come buy Come buy with love the love most high |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: kimmers Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:18 PM Hmm... we're a pretty traditional parish, and tend to use the Lenten hymns in the hymnal during the Sundays of Lent. There is a bit of a dichotomy: Sunday is always a feast day, yet our Sunday services are definitely quieter and more reflective during Lent. I agree with Matt R: "Lift High the Cross" is a gorgeous hymn, and is always appropriate. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: kimmers Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:18 PM Hmm... we're a pretty traditional parish, and tend to use the Lenten hymns in the hymnal during the Sundays of Lent. There is a bit of a dichotomy: Sunday is always a feast day, yet our Sunday services are definitely quieter and more reflective during Lent. I agree with Matt R: "Lift High the Cross" is a gorgeous hymn, and is always appropriate. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: Tinker Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:24 PM Nutty, that's beautiful.... now there's another book on my immediate list. Praise with kids this time of year doing Lord of the Dance as a circle dance with props and acting out the verses is one I can't get rid of now that I started it. We use soft two inch ribbons for 'whipping and stripping'. If you like I'll try to video email you the basics. PM me and let me know. Tinker |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: MMario Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:39 PM Here I am , Lord |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Feb 01 - 01:45 PM nutty, that's all new to me, thanks! Tink-- sorry, this computer won't do video. Dang! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: mousethief Date: 26 Feb 01 - 02:44 PM You Western Christians and your funny Lent. Sundays ARE a part of Lent for us. Then again, Holy Week is not (nor are Palm Sunday nor the Saturday preceding it, which we call Lazarus Saturday). Thus, we get to feast (eat fish) on Palm Sunday. Also on the Annunciation. (We get to eat caviar (bleh!) on Lazarus Saturday, but few of us avail ourselves of this -um- opportunity.) Other than that, it's no fish, dairy, or meat from Clean Monday (that's today) to Pascha (a fast of 49 days, although the week BEFORE Lent begins is also a fasting week, when we eat fish and dairy but not meat, for a total of 58 days meat-free). It's a wonderful time of renewal and soul-searching and cleansing. And it's a really cool experience to do it together, as a group. We're all going through the same thing, and the solidarity it builds in the parish is palpable. Y'all and your "giving things up" and "taking things on" are so cute! Our hymns are set by the Lenten Triodion, a book which --well-- sets our hymns for the Lenten period. So there's no question of what we want to sing or don't. Have a wonderful and glorious Lent, everybody, and a bright and happy Easter! Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Feb 01 - 05:05 PM Alex, So interesting! What about the bells on the cassocks-- yes or no? And ashes, or no? And what's in the Triodion-- would I recognize any? Is there any recorded? Is it all in Greek? Go ahead keep it to yourself if you must. It wouldn't be terribly Christian though! (Kidding!!! Guys, I'm kidding a pal!) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: Hawker Date: 26 Feb 01 - 05:25 PM I don't know if this is apt, a Cornish Carol entitled'A Stratton Carol of The Months' It is from a book of Cornish songs called Canow Kernow and was communicated to the author by Edith Jewel from Grace English, who remembered it sung by Lizzie Kempthorne. January's when cold winds do blow February brings us frost and snow March is when young lambs do play April brings us flowers so gay May is when the fields are green June is when new hay is seen July's days are very warm August brings the thunderstorm September's harvest fields are clear October's when we brew fine beer Novembers dreariest days in the year December end the fleeting year. Not really about lenten things but a reminder of Gods gifts the whole year through (barring November!!!) Lucy |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: mousethief Date: 26 Feb 01 - 05:53 PM Bells are removed from censors for Lent. (We never have bells on cassocks.) Vestments (on priests, deacons, subdeacons, altar, and any stands on which the Gospels or icons are placed) are changed to purple. Votive candles (if any) are changed from clear to blue glass. We have a LOT more services. At least twice a week at our parish, we have the "liturgy of presanctified gifts" -- since the consecration cannot take place on weekdays in Lent, we use presanctified bread-and-wine -- under the idea that during Lent we need all the help we can get, and the Eucharist is our greatest Help. And we say "Alleluia" just as much -- maybe even MORE -- during Lent than during the other seaons. THAT was a big change for an ex-episcopalian boy, you can be sure! The hymnody of the Orthodox Church is rather complex. Each service has its normal hymns, which rotate through an 8-week cycle of "tones" (actually a "tone" is a set of somewhat related melodies). On special days the words for some of them change, and of course for special services you need a whole new set of hymns. Oh, and during Lent, we sing "Lord Have Mercy" in a minor key (during all other seasons, including Advent, we sing it in a major key). Ours are all in English (thank heavens!). Most of the "tones" and melodies we use are Russian, however (and some "Arabic" and some Carpatho-Russyn). There has not yet been a set of American tones written (at least not that has been accepted for use in our jurisdiction). I've heard that there is a monk somewhere writing a set of American tones based on blues scales. I'd love to hear it, but haven't yet! Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: Matt_R Date: 26 Feb 01 - 05:58 PM I always include copious listenings to Jesus Christ Superstat and my absolute favorite, Godspell, during Lent. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Feb 01 - 06:02 PM Alex, thank you. Hardi says thanks also. Amazing diversity within Christendom, what? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: mousethief Date: 26 Feb 01 - 06:07 PM Jesus Christ Superstat? The Historical Jesus as Emergency Room Surgeon? S, you're welcome (Hardi too). The diversity is pretty amazing, yes. We're all grumbling because Pascha (our Easter) is on the same day as the RC's/Prots this year. No half-priced plastic easter eggs (we're usually a week after you guys). Waaah! Ask me some time about the Sundays of Lent, and what we celebrate/commemorate on each. Fascinating! (And all my notes are at home so don't ask me now!) Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Feb 01 - 06:17 PM Yo, Alex, God forbid you should share that with us each week as the season progresses. *G*G* I can take it if you can! Does it have anything to do with music? *G* Gee, and don't make Hardiman a tape or anything, or he'll probably hafta send you a picture of the new icon we just hung. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: mousethief Date: 26 Feb 01 - 06:52 PM A tape? That would require a working tape recorder. Ain't got none of them. Okay, Sundays. We've already missed several. Pre-Lent starts with Zaccheus Sunday (Jan 28 this year). Gospel reading is --- doh! Zaccheus. Next is the Sunday of the Pharisee and the Publican. Then the Sunday of the Prodigal Son. Then the Sunday of the Last Judgment, which is the last day we eat meat until Pascha, and is thus called Meatfare. Then this past Sunday (the day before Lent) was Forgiveness Sunday. Also known as the Expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden. Also known as Cheesefare (last day we eat cheese until Pascha). The gospel reading is "unless you forgive others their sins, neither will my heavenly father forgive you your sins" (Matthew 16). Also "when you fast do not disfigure your faces, etc." which is rather appropriate at the beginning of Lent. The chief service was the afternoon "vespers" after which we made a serving line and every person in the church asked every other person for forgiveness. We bow before them as if they're an icon (which of course they are!) and ask "Forgive me, brother" (or "sister"). Then we exchange the kiss of peace (3 times of course because we're Orthodox) and then say, "God forgives." It seems kinda rote when you hear about it, but when you do it, it's very moving. Many people get kinda weepy before the whole thing is over. So we enter Lent knowing we must be forgiving if we want God to forgive us, and knowing that our sins separate us from God, like Adam and Eve's sins separated them from God and resulted in their being cast out of the Garden. But while the congregation is exchanging forgiveness (the choir goes last, of course!) we sing the resurrection hymn, "Let God Arise" (get it?). In part to remind us that at the far end of Lent is the Resurrection, and in part in case any of the people there should die during Lent, they will have heard the Resurrection hymn one last time.
Let God arise! Let His enemies be scattered! (Psalm 68:1) Today a sacred Pascha has been shown unto us: a new and holy Pascha, a mystical Pascha, a Pascha worthy of veneration, a Pascha that is Christ the Redeemer; a holy Pascha; a great Pascha; a Pascha of the faithful; a Pascha that has opened to us the gates of Paradise; a Pascha that sanctifies all the faithful. As smoke vanishes so let them vanish! As wax melts before the fire! (68:2a) Come from the vision, you women, bearers of good tidings, and say unto Sion: receive from us the good tidings of the Resurrection of Christ; adorn yourself, exult, and rejoice, O Jerusalem, for you have seen Christ the King come forth from the tomb like a bridegroom in procession. So sinners shall perish before the face of God, but let the righteous be glad! (68:2b, 3) The myrrh-bearing women in the deep dawn stood before the tomb of the Giver of life; they found an angel sitting upon the stone, and he said to them, Why do you seek the living among the dead? Why do you mourn the incorruptible amid corruption? Go, proclaim unto His disciples. This is the day which the Lord hath made; let us rejoice and be glad in it! (Psalm 118:24) A beautiful Pascha, the Pascha of the Lord, a Pascha worthy of veneration has been revealed to us. Pascha, with joy let us embrace one another. O Pascha! Ransom from sorrow, for from the tomb today, as from a bridal chamber Christ shone forth, and filled the women with joy, saying: proclaim unto the apostles. Glory to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit. Both now and ever and unto the ages of ages. Amen. It is the day of Resurrection, let us be radiant for the feast, and let us embrace one another. Let us call "brothers" even those that hate us, let us forgive all things by the Resurrection, and thus let us cry out: Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, And upon those in the tombs bestowing life!
After exchanging forgiveness, the whole congregation sings "The Angel Cried" (the Paschal Theotokion), and we departed in silence.
The Angel cried to the Lady full of Grace: (Paschal=for the easter season) (theotokion=hymn to Mary) All this week is called "Clean Week." Next week: the "Sunday of Orthodoxy" (also called "Orthodoxy Sunday" and "The Triumph of Orthodoxy")! Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 26 Feb 01 - 08:05 PM Uhhhh... Alex, I got to admit, that's gonna be pretty hard to match on Saturday with an autoharp, a banjo, and a mandolin-plucking padre. I'll have to get back to you on our plans. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com Date: 26 Feb 01 - 09:19 PM Oh sacred head surrounded.. now they have changed the words in some of the newer (awful) Catholic hymnals so here are the words as I recall..of course you could sing them in German/// Oh sacred head surrounded with crown of piercing thorn oh bleeding head so wounded reviled and put to scorn death's pallid hue comes o'er thee the glow of life decays and angel hosts adore thee and tremble as they gaze I see thy vim and vigor grow dimmer in the strive and death with cruel rigor bereaving thee of life oh agony and dying oh love for sinners free Jesus all faith supplying oh turn thy face on me mg |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: Burke Date: 26 Feb 01 - 09:55 PM Hard to separate the Lenten from the Good Friday Hymns. I wonder how the hymnal compilers decided to assign them. "Now quit your care" is in your Episcopal Hymnal with somewhat different version. The original was French so it might be different translation or some kind of updating. Not in the Episcopal Hymnal, try ALAS! AND DID MY SAVIOR BLEED? The tune that plays at Cyberhymnal,by Hugh Wilson, goes by several names. I think he was Scottis. I think it fit pretty well. You can find the tune with different words in the Episcopal Hymnal as Martyrdom. Don't use that refrain they show at Cyberhymnal with that tune. The refrain goes with Hudson more commonly know as "At the Cross." Like many other tunes of it's genre it turns fairly somber words into something far more perky & upbeat. Not, however, quite as odd as putting them with "O How I love Jesus," which I have also seen. Another to look at is "There is a Fountain Filled with Blood." Cleansing Fountain, another perky tune to somber words, is probably the best known tune. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: Alice Date: 27 Feb 01 - 12:01 AM Music by Gounod, The Seven Last Words, in the old St. Gregory Catholic Hymnal. There are many by Michael Hayden (1778) for Holy Week in the same hymnal, as well as Palm Sunday hymns by Franz Schubert. There are also several versions of Stabat Mater. All of these are in latin - maybe you could do a new take on them with the banjo ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: GUEST,Bo Date: 27 Feb 01 - 01:09 AM Somewhere in the season there has to be the old German hymn "Ah, Holy Jesus". Gives me chills and tears every time. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Feb 01 - 06:59 AM We do the traditional Pace Egg Play during the week leading up to Good Friday, culminating in performing it at the Lancaster maritime festival on Good Friday itself. Always found it rather odd that the traditional blacking up and 'cadging' (and boozing!) associated with this activity occured during the last week of lent but then realised that during the development of the Pace Egg play Catholocism and anything to do with it (including lenten abstainance) was probably frowned upon. Alternatively I guess that in cultures where abstainance was still practiced during lent the cadging was OK but the monies saved for a good knees up on Easter Sunday??? Incidentaly I reckon the Irish have a good plan - have your saints day during lent so you have a good excuse to have a break from abstaining part way through the season;-) Cheers Dave the Gnome |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: GUEST Date: 27 Feb 01 - 08:01 PM When I was director I chose Lenten hymns that focused on the the return of one's attention to God. No crucifixion music until Palm/Passion Sunday. I'm no longer directing the music but still lead singing occasionally. Here's what has been planned for Ash Wednesday: Save your People--Jim Farrell Ps. 51--Kendzia As the Deer Longs [O Waly Waly alt.] Hosea--Western Priory Agnus Dei--chant Mass XVIII, Plainsong Amazing Grace How's that for eclectic? I also like With the Lord--Joncas and much of the Taize stuff--lots of opportunities for ad lib harmonies and obligatos, varied instrumentation, simple, easy to learn If you're Catholic, here's a wonderful jazz setting of the responsorial psalm after the third reading (Exodus) Let Us Sing--Fintan O'Connor, I believe. We used sax, flute, piano, drums. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: GUEST,En Date: 27 Feb 01 - 08:04 PM That last reference above of course referred to the responsorial psalm after the third reading on Holy Saturday. En-don't-know-why-I'm-a-guest-now |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: GUEST Date: 27 Feb 01 - 11:53 PM Psalm 119 |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: mousethief Date: 28 Feb 01 - 12:12 PM Yes! we sing the entire the 119th Psalm (with little sung 3- or 4-line mini-hymns between each verse!) on Holy Friday in the evening (it is the Matins of Holy Saturday -- Holy Week gets kinda topsy-turvy in the Orthodox Church!). It's called the Lamentations of Holy Saturday. The verses stuck in-between the Psalm verses are a lamentation for the death of God, and a hopeful looking-forward for the Resurrection. Very poignant. I'm trying to find it online but not having much luck. Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: Marion Date: 28 Feb 01 - 07:21 PM 1. Not exactly an answer to your question, but still music-related and Lent-related: I gave up the fiddle for Lent one year, and the guitar another year. However, I did it in the spirit of Egyptian Coptics (a branch of Orthodoxy). When I lived in Egypt I found that even though Lent is officially 55 days long, only the keeners actually eat vegetarian and go to the special services for all that time. The others start practicing the Lenten disciplines gradually according to their degree of devoutness... a few weeks before Easter, or at Palm Sunday, or starting Maundy Thursday or Good Friday for the slackers. So religious slacker that I am, I start my Lenten discipline on Maundy Thursday. But seriously, fasting from your instruments for a short time might be a better way to cultivate detachment than fasting from meat - especially if, like me, you're a vegetarian anyway. 2. Not an answer to your question either, but Lent-related: here's a prayer I once put together (some is original and some is ripped off from other sources).
LENTEN PRAYER 3. An answer to your question: I think the hymn "Oh Jesus I have promised to serve thee to the end..." is kind of Lenten. Marion |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 28 Feb 01 - 09:14 PM Wow, Marion! I love the breathlessly romantic prayer... I am going to print it up for Hardiman to use at church. He just read it over my shoulder and loves it, despite conducting three services this long, long day. Here is the one nutty had a verse from, and the one Burke mentioned above, from the 1982 Episcopal Church hymnal. Anyone know another tune for it though? This is not exactly singable and autoharpable.
Now quit your care and anxious fear and worry; } + : ~ *> ) Christ's kiss of peace and a blessed Lent to all. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: GUEST,Matt_R Date: 01 Mar 01 - 10:05 AM Man, the Newman Center last night was MORE packed than it has ever been! What a turnout! The songs were pretty cool. We did "Without Seeing, We Believe", a great song. Father Tom did this great homily, short, but powerful. He kept saying "What does God do? FORGIVE!" And he kept asking us "What does God do?" and we'd all scream "FORGIVE!!!" as loud as possible. What a great feeling. I described it as "a pep rally for Jesus". Afterwards, my friend Ryan kept wishing everyone a "Happy Ash Wednesday"! Later on in the night, me and Ryan started screaming songs from Jesus Christ Superstar at the top of our lungs, while Ryan did hilarious goofy arm-swaying dances. You should have seen us blazing away at "Simon Zealotes"! Then we wanted the real thing, so we put on the Jesus Christ Superstar DVD and started singing along..lol. Before Mass, me and Ryan where entertaining people coming in by singing various Simon & Garfunkel, Monkees, and Chicago songs. We were also belting out "One" by U2. What a gas! |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Mar 01 - 10:12 AM We need a live video feed from the Newman Center, Matt. Make it so! ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: sian, west wales Date: 01 Mar 01 - 11:47 AM I don't know if this would fit, and I don't know where you'd find the tune, but we used to do a song in our church teen choir back in the '60s ... Judas and Mary (sung as a duet):
Said Judas to Mary, "Oh, what will you do
"Oh, Mary, Oh Mary, oh, think of the poor
"Tomorrow, tomorrow, I'll think of the poor,
Said Jesus to Mary, "Your love is so dear
"The poor of the world are my body," he said, I think I've remembered if fairly correctly. I always loved that one! sian |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Mar 01 - 01:21 PM Oh, sian, it's lovely! I'll find a tune for it. Maybe some more verses too. Thank you! Poor Judas. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: mousethief Date: 01 Mar 01 - 01:24 PM Nice song lyrics! I'm with you, Sue. I don't know what to do with Judas. You want to slap him and say, "how could you not get it?!" But how can I say I would have fared any better in the same circumstances? There are monks who pray every day for Judas to repent and be healed before the Judgment. I don't know if it's possible, but I sure hope it is and he does. Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Mar 01 - 01:27 PM Hey Alex, how about a song of thanks for yesterday? ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: mousethief Date: 01 Mar 01 - 01:33 PM How's this: Alex |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: sian, west wales Date: 01 Mar 01 - 01:46 PM But where would the Easter Story be without Judas? Wouldn't exist? Was it ... Bonhoffer? ... who pointed out how important he was ...? sian |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: mousethief Date: 01 Mar 01 - 02:18 PM True, Sian, but one just feels bad for him. |
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Subject: Tune Add: JUDAS AND MARY From: sian, west wales Date: 01 Mar 01 - 03:33 PM I know I'm going to regret this ... but I've TRIED to do an ABC for the Judas and Mary. Is there some way that I could have tried it out before posting? Darn this technology ... it'll probably turn out sounding all oompah-pah, when it's supposed to be slow, sad and waltzy. Anyway ... see what happens... X: T:Judas and Mary M:3/4 K:F L:1/4 D2|G2d2d2|d2c2B2|A2B2A2½G4A2|B2A2B2|c2B2c2|d6|d4D2|G2d2d2|d2c2B2|A2B2A2|G4G1A1|B2A2G2|A2G2F2|G4F2|D4A2|B2A2G2|A2G2F2|G6|G4 sian
Line Breaks <br> added. aybe that will fix it. |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Mar 01 - 03:51 PM Alex, wow!!!!! I am flipping now, and I know Hardi will. Wotta LENT!!!! sian, boo hoo, I can't read ABC!!!! I have often said I pray for Satan. I should write a lament. "Who weeps for false light." Now THERE would be a large portion of grief-- God's, for that fallen one once so lovely and so clear. Mmmmmmm.....
If grief could enter a hardened heart would repentance surely come? Could I rain such grief as the Father can I would pour it our full-cupped; Could I overflow with the Father's strength I would serve till all had supped. Could I find the chink where to run the flow I would empty self for love; Could I weep for false light, and rage no more, I'd be like my Lord, above. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Mar 01 - 04:05 PM oops. call a clone.... |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Mar 01 - 09:59 PM This is the corrected second verse-- line breaks, yes, but also a typo.
Could I rain such grief as the Father can I would pour it out full-cupped; Thanks guys. ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: sian, west wales Date: 03 Mar 01 - 07:10 AM I'll have to think about this Satan / Judas / etc. thing over Lent, I guess. It'll be my Lenten meditation. Someone has to do the sh*tty jobs - from Satan to Judas to the pariahs of whatever country. The Least of These, etc. Would God be weeping for Fallen, or agonising that they had to take on the worst jobs. I'm sure I've read some philosopher who claimed that Judas was the most blessed of the disciples, not the most cursed. This is going off the music request at hand, right? OK, to return ... WYSIWYG, I've sent the ABC to Joe Offer - maybe he'll be able to sort it. Otherwise if you want the tune, PM me and I'll try to scan it. sian |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 03 Mar 01 - 10:13 AM sian, I'm replying here so I can let everyone know-- this computer cannot do sound at all. But I WOULD love tunes. Sometimes I can open jpg's, sometimes not. But I can always open Word attachments, and a "print screen" and paste into Word of anything is one meatball way to send stuff, as an e-mail attachment. (Click HERE to e-mail me.) ~Susan |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: Abby Sale Date: 03 Mar 01 - 01:58 PM Callop Monday, pancake Tuesday, Ash Wednesday, Bludee Thursday, Friday's lang, but will be dune, And hey for Saturday afternoon!
For (Fat) Shrove Tuesday:
Both from English Folk-Rhymes, GF Northall, 1892 |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: Marion Date: 05 Mar 01 - 09:31 AM Hi Susan. Breathlessly romantic? I'm just amazed to see how devout I was just a few years ago. Are you really going to use the prayer in church? Marion |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 05 Mar 01 - 11:19 AM Marion, Oh yes! I am sure it will become part of the tradition of the parish too. It has room for so many kinds of expression-- and Hardiman is a master at fitting them all together. Hmmmm.... maybe I will also font it up and cause it to be xeroxed and left on the back table with the other Lenten meditations.... *G*G* ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: roopoo Date: 05 Mar 01 - 01:59 PM We were all going to burn our last year's palm crosses on Ash Wednesday evening in Snaith Priory, the mother church of our team parish, and use them for the imposition of ashes. A certain tragic and horrific incident that morning in Great Heck, which is also in our parish changed the complexion of the service a little, in that we didn't do the ashes, and the Bishop of Doncaster came to lead the service. We still had a Eucharist service and we sang "40 Days and 40 Nights" and "Dear Lord and Father of Mankind" among others. There were 5 hymns in all that night, but I can only remember 2 of them. We are fairly traditional in our Lenten hymns and the majority are from Ancient and Modern (New Standard). Our weekly Lent activities this year are services of Holy Communion on Wednesday evenings, led by different members of the clergy team, each speaking on key figures from the Passion and visiting a different church in our parish each week with each new figure and speaker. Our church in Hensall is the first, and our Rector is starting the ball rolling with a talk on Judas! With all the turmoil and sorrow we have had in the last few days he has not as yet been able to prepare anything and he says it may be totally "off the cuff"! He is a past master at this, although he professes to find it hard to get his head round Judas at the moment. The best thing I ever did for Lent was about 4 years ago when I took on a sponsorship of a little girl in Uganda. She is delightful, and has now started to write a little in English (she's nearly 10). Andrea |
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Subject: RE: Ash Wednesday, Lent, and Music From: wysiwyg Date: 05 Mar 01 - 02:37 PM Andrea... what happened? Also, Sian sent me a scan of the melody for Judas and Mary-- it's wonderful! (It's a BIT like Maid on the Shore, which might do in a pinch if you are dying to do this and have no tune.) MMario, you will love this one. I'll have it for you when you visit. ~S~ |
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