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nutty 27 Mar 01 - 04:49 PM
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Subject: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 04:49 PM

I posted a thread on Dec13th to say that I was giving up smoking and was really overwhelmed by the response I got from Mudcatters

Your encouragement and good wishes was so important in getting me through the hard times and I am pleased to report that I AM STILL A NON SMOKER

No one is more surprised that me - I had tried everything in the past with no sucess

SO - many thanks to all of you - I wouldn't dare start again now {:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: MMario
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 04:52 PM

congrats!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 04:54 PM

Keep up the good work eh!

*This is a smoker being supportive of someone who makes a decision!*

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: CarolC
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 04:56 PM

Good for you nutty!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: GUEST,Paul Miller
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 04:59 PM

Congratulations! I smoked for almost thirty years, so I know first hand how hard it is. You'll find that every day is a little bit easier than the day before.

To all smokers: PLEASE do what ever you can to quit as soon as possible. It will be one of the best things you ever do. For yourself, and for the people that love you.

Paul Miller


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: gnu
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 05:03 PM

Bravo....cough....cough....cough....

gcoughnu


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Morticia
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 06:02 PM

well done....we're proud of you!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Sorcha
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 06:09 PM

and just HOW did you do it this time, when you had not been able to before? (cough, cough, cough.....)I think I don't want to quit badly enough.....in spite of seeing both parents die of emphysema and lung cancer....


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Hollowfox
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 06:13 PM

Hooray!! I was wondering how you were getting on, thanks for letting us know.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: CamiSu
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 06:24 PM

Hooray for you!!!!!!!!!!

I watched my dad die of lung cancer and I cheer every single person who quits!

CamiSu


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Bert
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 06:48 PM

Great!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Hawker
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 06:58 PM

Well Done!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 07:07 PM

Live long, and prosper!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Allan C.
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 07:19 PM

Wonderful!!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Little Neophyte
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 08:46 PM

Mazel Tov Nutty, this is very good news!

Little Neo


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Bugsy
Date: 27 Mar 01 - 09:44 PM

ONYA Nutty!!!!!

Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Chip2447
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 02:01 AM

WTG...Nutty, I semi quit on december 8th, I've had 6 ultra lights since then. Down from a pack of full flavor "red 100's" a day to 6 ultras in almost four months. Congrats and keep it up.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 02:56 AM

Sorcha - there's a new drug on the market. In the UK it's called ZYBAN and it subdues the area of the brain that causes addiction

It hasn't made giving up totally pain free but has kept it at a level where I can cope

Although it would be easy to say yes to a cigarette , it's just as easy to say no


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 02:58 AM

I can now admit that I was smoking at least 40 cigarettes a day so the extra £200+ a month in my bank account is also a powerful reason to stay smoke free


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 03:07 AM

Well done, Nutty. Best thing for me after stopping (25 years down the line) was the ability to shrug off coughs and colds without them developing into a full blown 2 weeks off work chest infection. Sounds daft coz you need to be ill to experience it! You'll see what I mean though.

Hangovers don't seem half as bad either....;-)

Dav the Gnome, 7 years off the weed...


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Bugsy
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 03:23 AM

Someone once said to me, "You don't always feel better when you give up smoking, but you feel a damned sight bloody worse when you start again!

And take it from one who's given up several times, but this time for good - Ain't that the truth!

Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Lanfranc
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 03:44 AM

Well done, Nutty, from another smoker who is supportive of those who give up.

I trust you will continue to feel sorry for those of us still addicted, and not become another intolerant ex-smoker.

Nowadays I only smoke 100pc tobacco cigars, on the basis that a chum of mine who worked in cancer research told me that there was a school of thought that considered that the additives in cigarettes and especially the paper used are more carcinogenic than the tobacco itself.

That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Dunc
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 04:26 AM

Well done - Well done - Well done!!
Welcome to the land of the non smelly and sensible.
I gave up on April Fool's Day 1984 and still think that it was the best thing I ever did.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Llanfair
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 05:16 AM

Well done, Nutty. nearly 4 months!!! the worst is behind you now.
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 09:53 AM

Congratulations, Nutty! The drug is called Zyban here in the US, too. I started taking it the Monday after St. Patricks Day and my wife and I have set a quit date of April 1. Success stories like yours are making me feel much better about the whole thing. Thanks so much.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 10:01 AM

jeffp -- If you have any questions or if you need any support please send a PM. or post a thread
The support I got was wonderful and helped so much


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 10:13 AM

Thanks, nutty. I've also got some friends here who have quit by using the Zyban. It's going to seem weird after 30 years, though. We've got a bunch of craft-type things lined up to occupy our hands in the evenings. I'll probably be practicing a lot more, too.

BTW, one friend says his voice has gone up in pitch since he quit smoking. Perhaps I'll regain some notes at the top of my range.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 10:22 AM

Well done, nutty! Congratulations! Now, if my Rog would only do so.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Bardford
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 10:28 AM

Good on ya, Nutty! From experience, I know that the first few months are the most difficult. After that, you start noticing things- like "Hey, my lungs didn't fall out when I climbed the stairs." and " Yikes, those smokers smell bad."

Keep it up, this is a good gift you've given yourself.
Cheers, Bardford


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 11:06 AM

As quitting smoking is considered by some to be more difficult than kicking a heroin addiction, you can proudly say you have the will power to achieve whatever you set your mind to, even in the unfortunate event that you resume the habit (but have faith that you won't)...aside from all the health benefits, that's probably the most important lesson to be learned.

It's truly an accomplishment that you can be proud of. You learn so much about yourself when you surmount a seemingly insurmountable obstacle.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: okthen
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 04:20 PM

Inspired by Nutty's original post (dec.13) I resolved to quit on Jan. 1st. I had quit using patches a couple of years ago and thought "I can do this any old time" 2nd time around even with patches it wasn't so easy.

I started using zyban on 11th Jan, and stopped smoking on 16th Jan. I had a couple in the first week or two but it was hard work. I can't honestly remember the last ciggy I had, but took my last pill on Fri.9th March.

I am told that I'm really lucky my doctor believed in prescribing zyban, many in the UK think it's too expensive.

There was a thread recently about 2nd chances, this is mine, I don't think I'll get a third. jeffp good luck, make it work for you too, but you have to go halfway to help it.

I was really s p a c e d out during the course and could happily watch paint dry, or muse on the beauty of doorknobs, I haven't taken a pill for nearly 3 weeks, so it should be waring off soon shouldn't it (?)

Anyway, I'll be away with the fairies now,

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 04:24 PM

Well, I have finally decided to quit myself....as of yesterday.....so if I seem any crankier than usual, I have an excuse....


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 04:28 PM

Sounds like we can get a Mudcat support group going. I am really committed to this. I want my voice back the way it used to be!

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: JedMarum
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 05:13 PM

Way to go! Best wishes for the next 25 years or so ... it gets easier after that! ;-)

I never smoked long, but since I quit so long ago, I cannot imagine taking it up again, ever. Don't kjnow what I saw in it in the first place!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Terry K
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 01:14 AM

Fantastic, nutty - I've been wanting to ask but didn't dare in case you'd weakened.

You should now start to lose the characteristic look of a smoker that shows in the complexion and the eyes - it's apparently just been discovered that there's some enzyme that causes it - so you can expect to start to look healthier.

Then you can start working on becoming a really intolerant ex-smoker ........... (smug grin)

Cheers, Terry


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 02:03 AM

Nutty, congratulations! Brava!

One of the pivotal moments in my smoking life came when my sister told me that I had a "smoker's voice". For some reason that struck home to me. I didn't like that thought at all, mostly because I knew exactly what she meant.

In addition, since I quit, my vocal range, even though it is still not phenomenal by any means, has definitely broadened and every little bit helps.

The part that I will always regret is that I smoked all during the years my daughter lived at home, much as she hated the habit. I think it's true that you can quit only for yourself, not because someone else wants you to, but I do wish I had given her that gift.

I am thrilled for you, and for all you others who know that your day is coming...

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Chip2447
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 03:31 AM

once again to Nutty, and to all of the rest of us who have decided to give it up, WAY TO GO...KUDOS for all of us....


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Midchuck
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 08:04 AM

Good News!

According to yesterday's paper, breast cancer is no longer the leading cause of cancer deaths in women.

It has been overtaken by lung cancer!

You really have "come a long way, baby."

I realize that I am guilty of some fairly grim sarcasm here, but how could one respond to that news other than with grim sarcasm?

Peter.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Mrrzy
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 09:19 AM

Bully for you, nutty, and Amergin, you've made me very happy. Keep it up, both of you, and jeffp, and anyone else trying to stop!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 10:00 AM

Peter (Midchuck)'s post tallies with my own very unscientific obervation of the students at the colleges I've worked at over the last 30 years: the men seem to be smoking less and the women more.
I'm a non-smoker brought up in a smoking household and I congratulate anyone who's had the sense to give up. Herself gave up not long after we married and stopped getting winter bronchitis. My parents gave up on retirement. My father is still going strong 20 years on but my mother died of smoking related diseases and so did my father-in-law (he was a doctor and always said it was his own stupidity, he should have known better).
RtS


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: okthen
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 07:48 PM

So how's it going?

jeffp?

amergin?

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 08:11 PM

Well, I'm still quit and I plan on staying that way....


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Apr 01 - 08:27 PM

okthen, also see the thread, Congratulations, treaties. Looking good.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Big Tim
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 11:30 AM

Very well done, Nutty. having managed it myself, cold turk, I know how difficult it is. My wife and I both stopped 23 years ago and calculate that if we had invested the money in the stock market we would almost be millionaires by now!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Naemanson
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 11:35 AM

VERY well done! I was wondering.

Now if only I could quit eating and take up some brisk exercise!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 11:54 AM

That's the bit I've found difficult - the eating or overeating - particulariy as I'm diabetic

A temporary solution has been real fruit-juice ice lollies which helped with the craving as well . At first I bought them at the local supermarket but now I've made some room in the freezer and I'm making my own

The exercise problem was solved by taking on another dog(canine type). So now I have two terriers to keep me fit


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 12:00 PM

I quit smoking when I was 13. Took two puffs, and I quit!

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Peg
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 08:40 PM

congratulations! Everyonein my family smokes except me and my brother; coincidentally he and I are the only ones without major auto-immune diseases or chronic health problems...

You should be very proud of yourself. I was not addictyed when I quit cigarettes, but I mught have become so if I had not stopped when I did. I have seen others unable to quit after trying seemingly everything. My mom tried the patch, some friends tried the Zyban thing, but in the ed I think they did not REALLY want to quit...

obviously, you did. Well done. Live long and large!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Bugsy
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 08:52 PM

I'm very pleased for you. It's very hard to give away something which has become such a major part of your life.

Mrs Bugsy has been on Zyban now for 10 days. It's her 2nd day without smoking but she says that the pills don't seem to make her feel any different. She's hanging out for a smoke!

Did you feel like this?

Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 08 Apr 01 - 09:50 PM

Yes - even with the pills its still HELL but the feelings went away quicker than before

The pills helped me to say no and mean it

Within 48hrs the nicotine has left the body - after that you are fighting the hand-to-mouth habit and the psychological need to reward yourself with a cigarette


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Sourdough
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 12:00 AM

Nutty put his (her?) finger on it about habit and psychological crutch. Fifteen years ago, I spent six months designing a smoking cessation program for the Amercan Cancer Society that was eventually published as a video. I got to spend much of that time learning the specifics of addiction in cigarette smoking in order to prepare for the video and became what is called a smoking cessation expert.

All smokers and ex-smokers will recognize the three "hooks" of cigarette addiction. How bad each one varies from one smokler to another.

One of the hooks is the physical addiction and that is what Zyban helps with. Zyban can be a major aid in cutting back on the effects of physical addiction and that can be a real help but it doesn't do much for the other two hooks and that is why is is neccessary to want to give up smoking. That is the only way to get free of the other two hooks.

The second hook is habit. When I examined my own life, I saw I had scores of deeply entrenched smoking habits: getting into a car, picking up the phone, after dinner, with coffee, sitting down to read, at the computer, taking a break from heavy concentration, taking a rest on a motorcycle trip, etc. yes- even after sex. Each situation triggered off a desire for a cigarette.

The third is the psychological addiction. For me, this was the hardest to overcome. When I was upset, hungry, happy, lonely, any of those, I wanted "my friend", the cigarette. Actually, giving up smoking was like turning my back on a trusted old friend.

Zyban doesn't solve those problems, but for many people it does help give them the energy to face up to the other two. Anyone who thinks that he can strap on a patch and the desire for cigarettes will wither away without any effort from them is bound to be disappointed.

I think I would have to say that giving up smoking (it has been fifteen years) has been one of the most important achievements of my life.

Take pride in what you have accomplished, nutty, and keep up the good work.

Sourdough


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 01:45 AM

I remember one time about 4 months after I quit smoking when I went to breakfast with some friends. We were animatedly talking away when I became aware just about at the same time as the others that I was stomping and grinding my crust of toast into the ashtray.

And sometimes I have dreamt that I was smoking and was really put out at myself because I knew I was going to have to quit all over again. And sometimes I was just bemused, telling myself, I was kind of thinking that I had quit...

The most important thing I told myself when I was ready to quit was that the fact that it was going to be difficult to quit really had nothing to do with it- I didn't want to be a smoker anymore. That was what I kept reminding myself.

This is a GREAT thread!

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 08:13 AM

I just completed my first week without a cigarette. At times it has been easy, at other times I would have killed for a cigarette. My wife is going through the same thing, so we lean on each other. I am now developing an addiction to little hard candies and smokehouse almonds.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Big Tim
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 10:00 AM

You will probably over eat to compensate, you really should try exercise. I took up jogging and have now ran 43,000 miles!!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Jande
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 10:49 AM

"Within 48hrs the nicotine has left the body - after that you are fighting the hand-to-mouth habit and the psychological need to reward yourself with a cigarette " ~ Sourdough

I tried quitting my pack-a-day habit four times since I started at age 16. Each time I quit for a year or longer. Then like an arrogant smartass I decided that since I had quit, I could light up a fag for a friend anytime and it wouldn't hurt anything... HAH!

I finally did quit completely. About 15 years ago now I guess. The thing that helped with the "oral habit" was taking up playing a 15-inch bamboo flute. It forced me to pull air into my lungs (instead of smoke) and it gave me something socially acceptable to put in my mouth. I spent a lot of time in the parks that summer playing out in the (relatively) fresh air.

A few years later I found out that I was allergic to smoke, and particularly tobacco smoke.

Funny how the desire to smoke just went away after I filled my life with music instead... ;`)

~ Jande


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Big Tim
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 04:05 PM

The old joke will be new to some - Stopping smoking is easy, I've done it hundreds of times.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: John Routledge
Date: 09 Apr 01 - 09:06 PM

Well done Nutty. If you now regard yourself as a non-smoker rather than a smoker who has stopped you are there!

Geordie"Non-Smoker"Broon *BG*


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: chip a
Date: 10 Apr 01 - 12:34 PM

Hang in there all! This is a wonderful thread. It does get easier. MUCH EASIER! Don't look back. Congratulations all around.

Chip


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 10 Apr 01 - 12:38 PM

Well it is two weeks today for me, since I last had a smoke....


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Hollowfox
Date: 10 Apr 01 - 02:39 PM

All Riight!!, Amergin, Bugsy, and Mrs.Bugsy!! If enough smokers get helped through this with Mudcat, will these threads qualify as a folk remedy for tobacco addiction?


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Apr 01 - 06:03 PM

Way to go!

Hang in there, folks, hang in! After smoking two to three packs a day for nearly thirty years, I quit about twenty-three years ago. I was pretty twitchy for a couple of weeks, but that passed, and soon I didn't miss it at all. I felt better, I had more energy, my singing voice started sounding better (and singing was easier), and I didn't spend fifteen minutes every morning trying to cough my lungs up.

Several weeks after I quit, I was sitting at my desk at work when someone came back from a smoke-break and sat down next to me. She reeked of tobacco smoke. It occurred to me then that "My Gawd! I used to smell like that!"

And back then, cigarettes only cost around eighty-five cents a pack.

Quitting smoking was one of the smartest things I ever did.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Gypsy
Date: 11 Apr 01 - 01:29 AM

It only takes 3 days to create a habit. Rather than quitting smoking, create the habit of being a non smoker. Rather than saying I can't have a smoke, think, i don't HAVE to smoke anymore. The subconcious has no logic. Repeated often enough, it will believe whatever you program it to. Really, it worked for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 02:16 AM

Well, it has been 3 whole weeks today. I am still not smoking. I am just wondering, how every one else is doing?


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 04:51 AM

WONDERFUL Amergin - so pleased to hear it. I have been thinking about you and all the others (Hope they let us know how they are getting on) BE PROUD

I've just passed the 4 months mark and am settling down to being a non-smoker - it really does get easier.

Had a message from "okthen" the other day and he is still succeeding.

GOOD LUCK to all of you - you have my best wishes.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Big Tim
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 04:52 AM

This is only slightly relevant but some, like me, may find it both amusing and sad. It's from page one of Ian Pattison's novel "A Stranger Here Myself", Picador, 2000. Pattison is the Scottish creator of the cult character, Rab C. Nesbitt. This is Nesbitt in his mother's womb.

"A man and a woman, my parents, are arguing the toss. 'I'm having the kid' she's yelling. "You're not having the kid", the man's yelling back. There's a noise like a soup pan bouncing off a head. A moment later a knitting needle, size eight, appears like a periscope, trying to jab me up the sac. I cling to a membrane, out of harm's way. The needlt retracts. There's more yelling, screaming, and a flurry of expletives barked in rage. A door slams. All is silent but for a background muzak of gritty female wailing, a comforting noise, since it always precedes the onset of a tobacco binge and I'm twitchy and eager for a fix. Indeed I look guiltly at the nicotine stains on my unformed fingertips and make a mental note to cut down. Lately I've been finding myself out of breath after a couple of circuits of the womb and in the mornings I've been coughing up tar. Maybe tomorrow. Right now I take a great double lungful and lie back in the sac."


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 10:31 AM

I've had a word with Treaties and she has reached the 18day mark. I,m so pleased that she is getting on well and give her full marks for having survived Lancaster Maritime Festival without weakening.

KEEP IT UP


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 11:04 AM

Well, yesterday was two weeks for Bonnie and me. It's getting easier, but I still miss it like an old friend. Trying to view it as gaining my freedom from the tyranny of nicotine - not too much of a stretch really.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 11:10 AM

GREAT -- so far everyone is doing well
It really has to be one day at a time but BELIEVE ME - it does get easier.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 11:14 AM

Glad to hear it, Nutcase and Treaties!! And a big round of applause to okthen, also!

yeah, I have been surprised myself about my ability to be strong at the pub....but then having practically told the world that I quit is a strong deterrent in and of itself....


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 17 Apr 01 - 11:17 AM

and another big hand for Jeffp and Bonnie!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 03:26 PM

Well, this Tuesday will be five weeks for me....how is everyone else doing? Still not smoking the fags I hope...


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: okthen
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 04:48 PM

Still going , but find myself falling into the "giving up is easy, I can do it anyoldtime" trap, just one won't hurt or won't mean anything. So far I haven't given in a second time but sometimes when I'm tired........

Just to give you a warning of what may lay ahead Amergin, forewarned is forearmed.

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 05:26 PM

Food is my problem now as I am hungry all the time - I could eat all day - and the pounds are starting to show.

Occassionally I get a VERY strong urge for a cigarette but so far have been able to resist
I think, for me, the honeymoon period is over and from now on its going to be hard graft but I DO NOT want to smoke again. Congratulations Nathan and Bill and everyone else who is trying and succeeding. If you have tried and failed - DONT GIVE UP - I've been trying for 20 years and you've just got to keep at it.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 05:33 PM

Hazel, I know what you mean about the food...I find that I have the munchies constantly now...though I think it is more to keep my fingers occupied than anything else...and I have been finding the munchies harder to endure...and it is showing.... I also have been having the occasional oh one fag will not hurt anything thought....and I know from previous experiences that if iI have that one fag eventually I will have another...and then I will tell myself I will only smoke when i am a little drunk...then I will only smoke when I am walking and so on until I am out the door with a smoke every half hour....I do not want to start again...

On a side note...I have noticed anxiety attacks a little more often of late...is there any correlation?


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 08:09 PM

Nathan - I'm sure there is a connection and it is likely to be in the way you regarded having a cigarette as a panacea - cure-all - reward. That has now been removed and you have no peg to hang your anxieties on.

I got quite weepy for a while - as if I had lost a friend ( awful thought but true) You just have to keep telling yourself you don't need cigarettes in order to live a normal life


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 10:37 PM

I don't know if this is true for anyone else but in my case, I think the reason I gained weight was that I had never learned to pay attention to when to stop eating. Not only is a cigarette an appetite suppressor, partly because of not relishing the taste as much, but in the past, I had always come to the point where I wanted a smoke- and I relied on that to signal the end of the meal, I think.

Maybe what we all need is sensitivity training in order to learn to become aware of what our body and senses are telling us.

Hang in there. It does become easier- but even if it didn't get easier, keep in mind that we brought this misery upon ourselves by abusing the body we live in. It's not necessary to keep on heaping abuse on a body that cannot say NO- even though a body can- and often will- fight back even though it may take 20 years.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Chip2447
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 06:07 PM

CONGRATS TO ALL OF YOU!!! I seriously cut back/stopped back on December 8th, from a 1 1/2 packs a day to less than 10 in almost 5 months. Now, I can say that I've actually quit again. Keep up the good work all of you who have decided to take that step. To those of you who haven't yet, you should consider it. This thread is proof that support from peers helps a great deal.
Just knowing that others wre going through the same thing has helped me tremendously. THANX FOR THE SECOND HAND SUPPORT FOLKS, you've made this easier...

Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 06:12 PM

Glad to be of help Chip2447 - come and talk to us anytime.

It's great that you've come so far - our thoughts are with you


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 08:18 AM

Well, it's 4 weeks for me as of today. I've gone through the munchies, the grief (that was truly scary), the cheating..... I haven't cheated in 2 weeks and I don't think I'm ever going to smoke another cigarette. I refuse to go through all of this only to fail.

One of the things that has helped me was to realize what a hold cigarettes had taken over my life. I planned my day around smoking. Breaks from work, used it as a 5-minute timer, choosing restaurants based on smoking policy, stuff like that. Once I realized what had been going on, I really resented it and got mad. I'm not giving those things that kind of power over me again. Period.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 08:25 AM

Good for you Jeff - glad to here you are doing well - keep us posted


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Llanfair
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 11:40 AM

I avoided the "just one" routine by reminding myself that I am a nicotine addict, and must NEVER touch one again.
I have put a lot of weight on, but will eventually lose it again.
i love the smell of tobacco, but after 2+ years, I'm not going back to being a smoker.
Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: BlueJay
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 01:05 PM

Congrats, nutty. Not only on quitting smoking, but for this great thread. It's no small thing you've done; you even have ME considering giving up the habit. A few observations:

What Sourdough said earlier regarding the three "hooks" of smoking is enlightening. I recently heard statistics about the percentages of people able to quit using various methods. Pretty grim. I don't remember the exact figures, but only about 15% quit while using Zyban. Nicotine patches were even worse, something like 8%. Surprisingly, the "cold turkey" quitters fared best, something in the 20% range.

In light of Sourdough's remarks, it all makes sense. The pill and patchers are in many cases attacking only the physical addiction, while the cold turkeys are probably the most motivated, and would tend more to take care of all three "hooks". Interesting.

Maybe you all can help me make sense of something. I work in a state prison which is entirely non-smoking. When I go to work, I am stuck for twelve and a half hours of non-smoking. I am not allowed to leave even for lunch. I am very busy at work, which helps. But my twelve hours are spent at ease, and I usually don't even think of smoking, because the possibility is just not there. I do start to get a little antsy near quitting time.

Likewise, the prisoners, some 700 convicts, most of whom used to smoke. They are now in a rigidly controlled environment where smoking is not a legal option. A black market does exist, but I think most of them choose not to take the risk of losing earned time and priveleges, like family visits. Plus, cigarettes sell for $200.00 a carton. They gripe about the food, the beds, the guards, the temperature. But I never here them complaining about how inhumane it is to be locked up in a non-smoking environment. I think they've just given up, much as I do every time I go to work.

Sorry to ramble on. I just thought you all might find some of this stuff interesting. Thanks, BlueJay


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 01:35 PM

When I smell a cigarette outdoors, it usually smells very good to me. Mind you, I'm glad that I'm not the one smoking it but it smells good... Indoors, it's a different story - but, if I can't get away, perfume and scented candles can also make me choke up. When I first stopped smoking, I had to stay awake from candle aisles entirely- the scent made me retch.

I think this thread is a wonderful one. And thanks for the periodic updates.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 02:50 PM

That's 'away', not 'awake'.

:)


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Jande
Date: 11 May 01 - 09:57 PM

"refresh"

Hey ! How's it going now, guys? Still managing to stick with it? How many days/weeks so far?

~ Jande


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Chip2447
Date: 11 May 01 - 11:19 PM

Sadly to say I kinda fell off the wagon. But, I'm giving it another go...


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 12 May 01 - 12:25 AM

Well, it's been a month and a half for me....

Chip,I hope you're not beating yourself up too much about falling....I am glad you're giving it another shot! Keep with it! Or else we'll have to send Nutty over to your place with a cricket bat!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Chip2447
Date: 12 May 01 - 02:10 PM

Thanx Amergin. I just have to realize that it's not really the nicotine that I'm addicted to, it had been over five months with just an occassional smoke, but the fact that I like the smell and the taste of a ciggy....


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 12 May 01 - 07:07 PM

Chip, you haven't failed- and even that small break from smoking has undoubtedly helped you. This isn't a contest- this is something you are doing for yourself, and for those who love you.

Eb


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 12 May 01 - 08:28 PM

I know what you mean, Chip, I loved the smell and the taste of my hand rolled fags....


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: okthen
Date: 13 May 01 - 07:55 AM

Still not puffing, nor have I since January, tho' I still get urges for "just one" I'm told I always will but they get less and less frequent,is this what you who've not smoked for years rather than months have found?

Just got my first "reward" for not smoking, (medium priced digital camera)

hope jeffp and everyone else is doin' ok

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Big Tim
Date: 13 May 01 - 10:19 AM

Having "just one" works for some. That's the way I managed to stop. I don't think the addiction is like alcohol when, I am told, "just one" can be fatal. I stopped 23 years ago and am no longer a nicotine addict. I abhor the sight and smell of tobacco and won't allow ANYONE to smoke in my house or car. I could have "just one" but I'd probably be sick and have to persevere and learn to inhale all over again. I do however feel sorry for my hero Bob Dylan who can't have a cigarette in any public place in California, tho I wholeheartedly support the ban.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 13 May 01 - 05:19 PM

Hi everybody - I've been away at Holmfirth Folk Festival this weekend so haven't seen the posts till now.

I'm still holding out although had a strange experience this morning ................ I was in my camper overnight -- slept very well and woke to a wonderful sunny morning. Made Coffee and ate breakfast and thought " What do I do now?" No sitting around chatting and smoking ---- so I went for a walk --- strange experience though

Spent the weekend with Treaties who is also doing well. Anyway, thanks for asking Jande and Chip DON'T GIVE UP TRYING TO GIVE UP .
It will happen for you eventually

Bill and Nathan - I'm filled with admiration and so proud of you guys -- you give me the resolution to get through the hard times


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 14 May 01 - 08:58 AM

Still not smoking either. One of the weirdest things about it is trying to fill that 5 minute period when you're waiting for the water to boil or the stove to heat or the kids to get out of the bathroom or whatever. I tell my wife "I'm going to sit down and not smoke a cigarette." Seems to work.

Hang in there fellow quitters!

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 May 01 - 12:27 PM

I know what you mean about that dead space between completing one thing and starting another. One of the hardest things for me was not having anything to 'reward' myself with.

On the other hand, just imagine what it must be like needing a smoke- and you're on a plane or a bus or in a restaurant or at work and it's howling outdoors- and you can't. I'm sure I'd be furious every day. Sure glad I no longer have to worry about it!

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Chip2447
Date: 15 May 01 - 01:29 AM

Thanks all. I owe it to family, friends and myself to give them up... Currently giving it another of the win one for the chipper college tries...

chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Bugsy
Date: 15 May 01 - 02:21 AM

Well Mrs Bugsy is still off the weed! I'm very proud of her, she seems to be coping with it a lot better than she has in the past. Thank God for Zyban.

Cheers

Bugsy


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 30 May 01 - 01:54 PM

Well, I just realised it has been two months for me...though sometimes it seems a bit longer...and other times not nearly that long....How is everyone else?


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 30 May 01 - 02:02 PM

8 weeks since I quit, and 6 weeks since I cheated. Been off the Zyban for a week and a half now. Still got this restless thing going on, though. My left leg is bouncing as I type this. Guess it's better than tapping pencils, but not much. Food tastes better, my sense of smell has improved amazingly. This spring I smelled the lilac in the neighborhood for the first time. Gotta start monitoring the BP more closely, in case I have to adjust meds.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 May 01 - 02:06 PM

A small aside here...Orillia City Council is considering a city-wide ban on cigarette smoking inside restaurants, bars, and other places of business. This would be a relief to me on a personal basis...but it would certainly be hard on some places, like Hill's Restaurant. The place is a Mecca for smokers, and the food is very good. I would, of course, prefer to eat there without the smoke, but I figure that most of the clients of Hill's would not agree with me on that.

I'm not quite sure where I stand on this one...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 30 May 01 - 03:04 PM

Had a moment of weakness when all around me were smoking and I cadged a cigarette -- sneaked it back to the camper to smoke before I went to bed ( I'd had a few drinks as well) I ONLY MANAGED A COUPLE OF PUFFS ..... IT WAS DISGUSTING
The rest of the night I kept being woken up by the horrible smell that lingered ..... I've learnt my lesson and doubt if I'll be trying it again
I just wish there was something that could give me the feeling of relaxation and well being that I got from sitting down with a cigarette .... that's what I miss most - but it's early days yet - well almost 6 months


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Chip2447
Date: 30 May 01 - 09:43 PM

Since my recent derailment, I've managed to get back on track. Now, if I can just remain sans tobacco.
Thanks all....

Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 31 May 01 - 01:40 AM

I suspect that one of the things a person misses may be actually the slight increase in heart rate that a cigarette gives you. One of the things I did when I really WANTED A CIGARETTE- :~( -was to exercise briskly. I remember doing jumping jacks one difficult moment! And water- I drank lots and lots of water.

Eb


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: okthen
Date: 31 May 01 - 02:31 AM

So far so good, since mid January anyway, yes there are still times I want "something" but resist (butt resist?).I had a valiant effort to drink beer a couple of weeks ago, it still tastes so strong as to be offputing,but I persevered and after 7/8 pints was quite wobbly(here enter thread on 40 degrees of being drunk)all in all I didn't enjoy it at all and I think I'll stick to my "schorle" (half wine half lemonade).I think I associate drinking beer with ciggies and when one went the other had to go too, never mind.

I find I'm drinking more water now, and enjoying it. I am slowly converting my wife and daughter to the idea of quitting, but I really do know how hard headed nicotine addicts can be.

Well done everybody,here's wishing you strength and perseverance.

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 31 May 01 - 05:41 AM

I'm really so proud of everyone and have forgiven myself for my weakness ( IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN ) - HONEST
I think (like Bill) it was the drinking that caused tit - I haven't been doing much of that either. So take it a day at a time - THERE MUST BE A SONG THERE!!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: DougR
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 01:56 AM

Well, nutty, as an ex-smoker (20 years), I might be able to offer you some advice on relaxation. Have you thought about sex? I find it very relaxing (though for about five years I still craved a cigarette after). :.)

Seriously, though, I salute all of you who are giving up tobacco. It is a very difficult habit to kick, but the rewards that will follow, are worth it, believe me. DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Jun 01 - 02:19 AM

A song there, for sure, nutty. I didn't realize that having a drink had that kind of effect, although I do realize that some are more abundantly endowed than others... LOL

Eb


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 09:46 PM

well, four months for me...still not smoking...how is everyone else?


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Chip2447
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 12:44 AM

Still tobacco free, for the most part, It's being around smokers that tries to do me in....

Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 04:42 AM

I've just hit the 7 months mark and am still battling on.

I've put on about 2 stone but seem to have levelled out at that - this has happened before when I have given up and has been a prime reason for starting again (but not this time)

Some days are harder than others, but that is really caused by spending too much time on my own - when I'm in company (even with someone who smokes)I don't think about smoking at all.

Hardest time is sitting watching TV

Biggest Moan - why can't they make sugar free chewing gum in decent flavours - I'm absolutely sick of "mint" :¬)


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 09:46 AM

Still tobacco-free 3 1/2 months now. Most of my triggers are no longer driving me crazy. There are still times, though. I've got a five-hour drive coming up Saturday. That will be a real test. Hang in there, everybody. We can do this.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: okthen
Date: 19 Jul 01 - 01:27 PM

Yep! 6 months and holding, still can't drink much tho' (no real loss there)if I ever did start again I'd become an alcoholic ashtray!

Still get those "I'll just......." flash thoughts but a little less often.A friend of mine (ex 60 a day) says he still gets a craving and he gave up 10 years ago!

There was a bit on the news about the Gov. banning a few additives (like cadmium) and I couldn't help thinking why the (expletive) did they put them in in the first place, but apparently there are 200 additives and if so why aren't they listed on the box? What's more if any "additives" should turn out to be carcinogenic, could the companies be held liable for assault?

Thanks for reawakening this thread, I needed a good rant.

The way I feel right now, Archer should be grateful I was not sentencing him.

cheers

bill


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Amergin
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 09:35 PM

boy...just realised it has been 13 months without a fag....


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 01:36 AM

Congratulations Amergin ..... thanks for refreshing the thread

Almost 15 months for me ........feeling really good

I put on the expected 2 stones but have just lost half of that and am now tackling the rest.
Definitely no going back ........ I've become a shop-aholic but, now, I can afford to be.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Mrs Cobble
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 06:15 AM

Well done Amergin and Nutty.

I have managed almost 12 months ( gave up at the end of the Yorkshire Mudcat gathering 2001) without a fag, have put a stone on!

Mrs C


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Miken
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 11:41 PM

Amergin, Nutty, Mrs.C----My greatest respect and congratulations for hanging in there. I remember how difficult it was for me. What helped: Deep breaths when the craving came on, increased exercise, lots of water as already mentioned, and keeping in mind all the things I hated about smoking. Lost both my parents to emphysema during the last three years; they were heavy smokers all their lives, and it's sad that when I remember their final months of life I see them with green plastic oxygen tubing in their noses. After I quit I gradually discovered I had been allergic to tobacco smoke for years, still am, and will go to great lengths to avoid it. Smoking in public bldgs.in Wa. State is prohibited - even within 30 feet of the entrances, but I've learned to hold my breath leaving the building I work in due to smokers right outside the door.Arrrgh! ( Glad to get that off my chest!) But the best to all of you. Over time you'll reap the rewards for your hard work, and I'll be thinking of you. This is serious stuff. Thirty-two years away from a two packs and a half a day------Mike (Hmmm, there's a song in there somewhere)


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Chip2447
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:33 AM

Sadly to say, I have fallen completely off the tobacco free wagon, I'm smoking about 3 or 4 lights cigs a day. gonna give it another go soon. Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: kendall
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 08:49 AM

5 1/2 years. Didn't quit soon enough, battling throat cancer. I'm told I will be cured, but, it has raised hell with my performing, and my social life.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: ddw
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 05:32 PM

Glad to see everybody still hanging on. I smoked for 47 years and haven't had one since July 25/01 -- nine months last Tuesday. I still want one every once in a while, but I don't think you could pay me enough to have it.

david


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 10:29 PM

Congratulations to anyone who manages to kick that particular monkey off their backs. I have learned since my Mother died of a heart attack that smoking is the leading cause of heart disease in women. My Mom could not quit, the addiction was just too bad for her. I understand it to be *very* hard, but those of you who have managed it, you are not only doing yourselves a huge favour, but your loved ones as well. Good on ye!!


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 08:59 AM

Just celebrated a smoke-free year almost 2 weeks ago. Now if I can just get rid of the 25 pounds I traded my cigarettes for.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Mr Red
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 09:56 AM

jeffp
burn the toast instead - it removes a few more calories from the bread!
FWIW my mother's favourite diet was "if it tastes good - spit it out!"


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 01:46 PM

We are trying to eat healthier, but I insist on enjoying what I eat! Thanks for the suggestions, though!

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Deda
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 03:34 PM

I quit in Feb of 1987, just four months before my mother died of emphysema, several years after my father died of a heart attack. She was never able to quit, not even after she was hooked up to oxygen. (She once almost blew herself up by lighting up while wearing the plastic tubes; she had burn marks above her upper lip.) She was on oxygen and in & out of hospitals and using a "nebulizer" for the last 7-8 years of her life. I had been a smoker for 18 years by the time I quit, usually about a pack a day. I had acupuncture for the first few days, from a guy who specialized in acupuncture to help wean people from their addictions. It helped me through the worst few days, and I was so amazed and impressed that I refused to backslide after that.

I knew a few things before I quit: That I was well and truly addicted and that if I ever had one cigarette, I was caving in completely; that cigarettes had often been my best friend (I spent one entire acupuncture session with tears rolling down my cheeks); there was something else, but I've forgotten it just now. Anyway I wish everyone all the luck in the world with this, it isn't easy. But it is worth it, for everyone who loves you. Loving smokers and having to bury them too young is just a rotten thing to go through. And it's nice to regain a sense of smell, and decent lungpower.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 06:34 PM

I think the thing that will keep me from smoking again is that I have found my voice.........the range and the power that I lost so many years ago are now back and the breathing is no longer a problem
I just love singing again

It's taken me a long time to get to this point though, so I sympathise with those of you who are still fighting the fags ..... keep at it - you'll win in the end


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jeffp
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 08:06 AM

I know what you mean, Nutty. I figure I've regained at least 1 1/2 tones at either end of my range. Not to mention the resonance that has returned. It's definitely been worth it for me.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Murrey
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:59 AM

I wish I could give every smoker the great feeling of five years free after smoking for thirty -- there is nothing that would ever make me start again and yes I too am a singer and the range that had become so narrow is now so broad it is unbelievable ( sure tried to convince myself that it didn't affect my singing but that was a big lie ) --I guess you must truly want to --whatever the reason you must want to stop . To everyone out there who still smokes -please think about the people who love you and do everything you can to quit. I can tell you -you will struggle and it will be soooo hard BUT I promise you will never regret your decision ! Murrey


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: okthen
Date: 01 May 02 - 03:45 PM

I'm still smoke free, 16 months so far, twice as long as last time and hope this is the last time I give up.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 01 May 02 - 05:56 PM

Have faith Bill ..... I know you can do it....... look how far you have come already


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 10 Jul 02 - 01:43 PM

Refresh!

Well I have decided to quit smoking. I have been smoking for 6 years and I've decided its high time to quit. It has been 7 days since I had a fag and its not going too bad. I don't miss them, apart from after meals and I feel great and it should help my asthma.

I have been told that I am more moody than usual but hopefully that should pass soon.

I haven't been in a pub situation since I stopped so going to the pub and festivals is going to be a real test of my will power!!!

Cat


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Ebbie
Date: 10 Jul 02 - 02:00 PM

Catsphiddle, you'll do it! Just think, you already have the stuff out of your physical system. What's left is the psychological residue- and that you can handle. What finally caused me to quit was the realization that the fact it would be difficult to quit didn't even enter the equation: I didn't want to be a smoker anymore. (I still wanted to smoke; I just didn't want to be a smoker anymore!)


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: GUEST,vectis minus cookie
Date: 10 Jul 02 - 07:11 PM

Thanks for that thought Ebbie. I'll try to remember that next time I really want a ciggy and know I cam get one off someone.
I started stopping last November and I'm still struggling every time I go near a pint , festival or pub. I will persevere. I keep telling (Kidding?) myself that I am a non-smoker who occasionally lapses. It sounds so wimpish but it is working fairly well so far.


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: Noreen
Date: 10 Jul 02 - 08:32 PM

Good on you, Cat! :0)


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: mack/misophist
Date: 10 Jul 02 - 09:05 PM

I also used Zyban to quit. Trust me, it works. Perhaps not as well for me as for him. That's the breaks. The bad, rotten, really TERRIBLE thing about zyban is that, here at least, it costs us$150 per month. I have very good insurance and it wasn't covered. If you know a cat, or maybe know a cat who knows a cat. TELL THEM. Every one here is in favour of quitting. Why keep one of the best tools out of most peoples reach?


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: jets
Date: 10 Jul 02 - 09:50 PM

I smoked a pipe for 55yrs. I smoked more than most people for I was a engine room watch stander at sea and then ashore in a power plant I finaly decided that it was no longer a pleasure but something that was shorting my ability to breath.Something I was compeled to do.As someone said earlier,I decided that I did not want to be a smoker,so I quite. Yes there are times when I need a smoke but I say to myself; I am sick and it ,the need, will go away. It has been three years this summer and I feel much better. The need accures less and less every day. Best of luck to all the quitters. Joe


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Subject: RE: BS: No Smoking Update
From: nutty
Date: 11 Jul 02 - 03:41 AM

This thread is now quite large ...... please post to the continuation thread

Continued


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