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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: JenEllen Date: 30 Apr 01 - 05:58 PM Lord knows I've tried, gnu You know, I'm really a very reasonably educated woman, you think I'd know better..but every time they get Curly's head in a vise, the giggles escape and give me away.
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: gnu Date: 30 Apr 01 - 05:51 PM Not a redneckess. 'Cept for the Stooges.... part redneckess ? 'Spose we all are, to some extent. But the Stooges ???!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: JenEllen Date: 30 Apr 01 - 05:41 PM Yeah, maybe, gnu. More likely a case of an individual adapting to an environment. 'When in Rome', and all that garbage.. Perhaps I should clarify for our distinguished guest? Lounging in underwear? My house, my business, and I happen to think skin is great. Swear like a sailor? Yeah, as well as fluency in four languages (not counting redneck, sailor, or piglatin). Stooges and DirtyJokes? Sure, but I don't have to be the one hit with a brick to get the joke. Cars? Get you where you have to go, but the minute you love them more than you do the people in your life, you're a goner. Professional Wrestling? Give the guys a break, they're just trying to make a living like everyone else. Truck pulls, boat shows, craft fairs? Not nearly as wonderful as who you go there with. Taking an interest in something besides yourself has very definite benefits.
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: gnu Date: 30 Apr 01 - 04:43 PM Sounds like a redneckess to me. goodolgnu |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: JenEllen Date: 30 Apr 01 - 04:38 PM Well, outside of the fact that if my porch collapsed, it might in fact kill an animal or two...I am most definately NOT a redneck. No offense intended to anyone who IS, mind you, that just ain't my bag. I'm more a believer in "don't knock it if ya ain't tried it"..and "for gawdssakes, if ya like it, do it again". The Undertaker would wipe the mat with that loser. ~JE
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: GUEST Date: 30 Apr 01 - 08:08 AM WWF...The Rock vs Undertaker I think. Too bad about the truck pull - Big Foot was supposed to make an appearance, but knock one over the fence, JenEllen. When you get the Chev tuned up, bring 'er out on County Line road, just past the Last Chance Saloon, and let's see what she'll do...(I feel a case of "...You Just Might Be a Redneck" coming on...) -- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: gnu Date: 28 Apr 01 - 07:28 AM Zebedee's girlfriend... don't move in. Get married or get out, the quicker the better. Buy him nothing. Take him nowhere. Do whatever you want to do, whenever you want to. Never lie to him or yourself about anything. Talk about your feelings openly and honestly. Give him your love every day and be there for him when he needs you, unless he abuses it. If he weens about anything in the relationship, run as fast as you can and never look back. Life is waaaaaaaaay too short to be a pussy. PCgnu
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Matt_R Date: 27 Apr 01 - 09:32 PM Wooo! Serious Girl Mode! Ahhhhhhh-OOOOO-Gaaaaaaaaa!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: JenEllen Date: 27 Apr 01 - 09:23 PM gnu'Darlin; No offense taken AT ALL!! You sound to me like you've got it square from where you sit. This is a pretty delicate subject to deal with in this medium. Humor that can't be followed with a physical "wink-wink-nudge-nudge" tends to be taken straight away off the mark. You go knock'em dead at that gig luv. **SERIOUS GIRL-MODE HERE** Zeb, it just isn't going to work unless the two of you are friends, and it sounds like that isn't the case. You should have enough in common that you have things to learn together, enough differences to keep life interesting, and kind enough hearts to appreciate that this is another soul that is bound to do things that will drive you crazy but you can love them right through that anyway. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: mousethief Date: 27 Apr 01 - 06:17 PM Perhaps a little salty... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: CarolC Date: 27 Apr 01 - 06:15 PM You certainly don't seem bitter to me, Matt. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Matt_R Date: 27 Apr 01 - 05:59 PM I refuse to be bitter!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: CarolC Date: 27 Apr 01 - 05:54 PM Yes, be warm, but never be a warm pussy. That goes for you gals, too.
--gnu
gnu, I agree completely.
I wasn't offended by you. But if you check out the several posts just before I asked if this is where the bitter men hang out, you can see that the tone of the conversation was mostly about bashing women. I guess what I was, and am, trying to communicate is that people pick up on the tone that others use. If a man or a woman comes across as sounding bitter or like they're bashing the opposite gender, all of the good ones of that gender are going to run, not walk as far as they can get in the opposite direction. So then it becomes sort of a self fulfilling prophecy. And I've been a pussy, too, so I know exactly what you're talking about. But we have to take responsibility for our own pussy behavior and not blame it on others. And hopefully we can learn from it and be strong without being hurtful. Good luck with your gig. Carol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: mousethief Date: 27 Apr 01 - 05:16 PM Not sure what your "gig" is, but break a leg, anyway! Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: gnu Date: 27 Apr 01 - 05:15 PM I know, Alex. Guess I'm just wound up. It's time to get a few thumps in before my gig. Wish me luck. My wrist seems healed, but every now and then, it gives out on me, so I'm nervous. Sorry if I offended, CarolC and JenEllen... wait a minute, no I'm not.... I AM NOT A PUSSY !!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: mousethief Date: 27 Apr 01 - 05:09 PM Aye, I can't dispute that, gnu. I was just being silly. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: gnu Date: 27 Apr 01 - 04:56 PM .... a mate who loves and respects you. If that mate weens and manipulates, there is no love and, certainly, no respect. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: mousethief Date: 27 Apr 01 - 04:53 PM But gnu, happiness is... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: gnu Date: 27 Apr 01 - 04:51 PM CarolC... I'm as warm as warm gets, short of being a pussy. I guess the reason I don't trust most women anymore is because I was too much of a pussy in the past. I wasn't even going to post to this thread but I did so for the sake of humour. Screw that. Zebedee... don't move in. Get married or get out, the quicker the better. Buy her nothing. Take her nowhere. Do whatever you want to do, whenever you want to. Never lie to her or yourself about anything. Talk about your feelings openly and honestly. Give her your love every day and be there for her when she needs you, unless she abuses it. If she weens about anything in the relationship, run as fast as you can and never look back. Life is waaaaaaaaay too short to be a pussy. Yes, be warm, but never be a warm pussy. That goes for you gals, too.
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: JenEllen Date: 27 Apr 01 - 04:17 PM You got it pegged, CarolC...
Well GUEST, that all depends...WCW or WWF? JennyTakeARide
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: CarolC Date: 27 Apr 01 - 02:19 PM That's cool, gnu. You shouldn't have any problems attracting warm women if you keep one thing in mind. What warm women like best is warm men. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: mousethief Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:59 PM I gave up loving alcoholics for Lent. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: GUEST Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:55 PM So what is the alchoholic i love supposed to to (apart from giving up drinking) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: GUEST Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:53 PM But what is the alchoholic user to do? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: GUEST,#1 Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:22 PM Is that male thread right or left handed? I trust everone knows the sad story of Screwy Dick. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Kim C Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:02 PM Matt, Mister doesn't do any of those things. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: GUEST Date: 27 Apr 01 - 11:14 AM JenEllen.... Nowhere in GUEST's post of 25-April-01 11:42am did it say anything about the author being a freakin' genius.
Instructions for reading the post referred to above. Some assembly required: By the by, I got two tickets for professional wrestling; truck pull later on in the week; demolition derby the week after. That's if I can finish blueprinting the block and get those pop-up pistons installed in the GTO in time. Interested? I got a cooler of Old Milwaukee already iced down. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: gnu Date: 27 Apr 01 - 06:59 AM CarolC... I am not a bitter man. I prefer cold beer.... and warm women. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: bbc Date: 27 Apr 01 - 05:38 AM Amen to mousethief! Read some of the John Gray Mars/Venus books. I might have been able to prevent my divorce if I had understood then how differently men & women think & communicate! bbc |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Amergin Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:27 AM Well, Matt....I don't sit around in my underwear...nor do I talk about cars...cause all I care about them is that they run and will keep running....and I can't stand sitting around watching sports on the tube all day....would rather sit around drinking beer and reading a book... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: JenEllen Date: 27 Apr 01 - 01:07 AM Well, Matt, you ARE weird, but for a host of other reasons...*bg* I just think that the whole cookie-cutter thing of 'this is how women/men ARE' is revolting. It allows NO room for growth. Some day you might want to do those things, other days you might want to hang out with Boo and bake cookies or something...it doesn't make you any less of a man, or any less YOU. I find it no real suprise that people like our GUEST can't find a friendship with a member of the opposite if they allow no room for growth or evolution of the relationship. You just go with whatcha know, sugar, okay? ~JE~ (who still runs like a girl...imagine that...) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Matt_R Date: 27 Apr 01 - 12:50 AM Am I the only guy who DOESN'T drink beer, watch sports all day, sit in my underwear, talk about cars and tell dirty jokes? Am I weird?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: JenEllen Date: 27 Apr 01 - 12:22 AM Have to thank the GUEST for the best laugh I've had all night. Whyever would you hook up with a person who hates all of the things you love?? Maybe castration was the only way she could get your attention? Seriously, TALK to her, Zeb. Find out beforehand, and if she's too clingy, tell her no and tell her WHY. It will be better for both of you in the long run. ~JE~(A woman who, among other things: lounges around in her underwear, swears like a sailor, can 'stooge' with the best of 'em, and who loves sex, dirty jokes, and cars.)
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: CarolC Date: 27 Apr 01 - 12:00 AM Wow! Is this where all of the bitter men hang out? I guess I need to go find me another rock to hang out under... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Bernard Date: 26 Apr 01 - 08:35 PM I used to think I'd found 'Miss Right' until I realised her first name was 'Always'... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: gnu Date: 26 Apr 01 - 03:10 PM LOUD and CLEAR, dave. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: wildlone Date: 26 Apr 01 - 02:56 PM I worked hard at my marriage, somtimes 70 or 80 hours per week. When I found a job with the same amount of money for less than half the hours she wanted me to get a second job "so I can have nice things in the house". It was then I realised that all I was was a wallet on legs. dave, who spends his cash any way he wants now. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: gnu Date: 26 Apr 01 - 02:35 PM Zebedee... here's some advice. Make sure she doesn't get a chance to read this thread or you'll be hanging by a thread. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: GUEST,#1 Date: 26 Apr 01 - 02:14 PM That coping saw is to cut off their tongue. 1: It stops the long list of things they want you to do for them. Of course then they can't thank you for doing them, but you never got that in the first place. They just considered it their due. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: mousethief Date: 26 Apr 01 - 12:22 PM Advice from Uncle Mouse: Never forget that men and women are DIFFERENT. Neither gender is better or worse; but each must learn to accept the peculiar peculiarities of the other. If you expect a woman to behave/think/act like a man, you will be frustrated. And vice versa. Alex |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: GUEST,Surviving Brother Date: 26 Apr 01 - 11:24 AM Sorry if this is a repeat but time is limited My brother-in-law found this out (too late I fear). Women like to "feel" about a situation Men solve problems OK, a generallisation, but looking back on my own disaster areas it all clicks into place. sort of "Now they tell me"! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: GUEST Date: 26 Apr 01 - 11:06 AM ..after contemplating what went wrong and what went right during a 14 year marriage that ended in divorce, I came to some enlightening revelations, some not so major but noetheless mildly significant. Like: I never lost anything, aside from the occasional set of car keys (or the car) after a night of serious drinking. That was because everything I owned was on the floor. Wake up in the morning, and there it was, staring you in the face. A quick shuffle through the layers of books, records, tapes, clothes, pens, pencils, papers, various and sundry items rarely failed to reveal the item I was looking for. It was only after my "better half" decided "we" needed to become "organized" that I never could find a damn thing. Go figure. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: GUEST,Jude Date: 26 Apr 01 - 03:12 AM Most men don't marry women for exactly the way they are any more than most women marry men to change them. Mostly this is because few of us ever really know either a potential partner or even ourselves, and just to complicate matters people do change and grow over time. A habit that may have appeared endearing in the "honeymoon" stage may later be intensely irritating. The rest of the universe doesn't stop changing either, and people change as a reaction to that. The other thing that can be a problem is not really seeing the person behind the expectations, both of what you think/hope they are and what (often without realising it) you expect from a relationship. Love can conquer mountains - but it often falls at a molehill. If you communicate, share ideas and expectations, work at it, and are lucky, you may find, recognise and keep someone to love and share your life. Meanwhile work out who you are and what you want. Jude |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: CarolC Date: 25 Apr 01 - 10:03 PM Men tend to marry women for exactly the way they are.
--Justa Picker
Justa Picker, that hasn't been my experience. (And I've had lots of experience.) My experience has been that some men want to change the women they are with.
My experience has also been that all people, male and female, are individuals, but if you try to generalize about their behavior, you'll get exactly what you expect. Carol |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Helen Date: 25 Apr 01 - 07:26 PM Burke, That's not such a bad suggestion to buy a duplex. After my boyfriend (now hubby) moved from 300 miles away to here (i.e. after we had been going out for a year) he moved to a house only a block away from mine. It was near enough to spend time together, and separate enough to have time to ourselves. It was especially important for us, we decided, to ease into the closer living, because we were in the habit of only seeing each other every second weekend or so before that, because of the distance. After we got engaged (another way of saying that we had made the commitment for a long term relationship) and about a month before the wedding he moved into my place. I was very wary of moving in for reasons based on convenience, practicality, or anything other than long term commitment to the relationship. Helen |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Bernard Date: 25 Apr 01 - 05:50 PM Respect each other's individuality. If you want to change your partner in any way, then you must change your partner - period! Accepting each other for what you are is vital - slight niggles will grow into major difficulties if you let them. Having said that, you must also be prepared to work on the relationship between you - it's not about scoring points. There is a difference between work which is a pleasure, and work which is a chore. The trick is to recognise which is which... I recently made the mistake of thinking that I could become the person that the love of my life wanted me to be. Of course I couldn't - the person she wanted wasn't me. It cost me my mental health, as well as my best friend. Good luck, Ed. Hope it works out well. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Justa Picker Date: 25 Apr 01 - 05:40 PM Neo, I make a distinction between being "assimilated" and "pecker whipped". I was merely relieved of some bad habits, which I'd wanted to ditch anyway, and just needed the right "impetus". Any improvements made, I can clearly see were for the better, and I do trust her judgement - except in matter of G.A.S. :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Little Neophyte Date: 25 Apr 01 - 05:29 PM Justa Picker, maybe that has been what you have experienced from relationships. Yet there are women and men out there in this world who do not want to mold you into something you are not. There are people out there who want to love you for who you are the same as they want to be loved for who they are. If you are willing to open your perspective on love, you have a better chance of finding it. Little Neo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Burke Date: 25 Apr 01 - 05:17 PM If you need your own space, consider a duplex. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Coping with women (A male thread) From: Justa Picker Date: 25 Apr 01 - 05:16 PM Men tend to marry women for exactly the way they are. Women marry men for the way they are, and then spend years trying to change and mold them into what they want them to be. I'm "assimilated" going on 17 years. |