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Origin: Early One Morning (just as the sun was...)

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EARLY ONE MORNING
EARLY ONE MORNING (2)
EARLY ONE MORNING (3)
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GUEST,Sandra 25 Apr 01 - 01:36 PM
Charley Noble 25 Apr 01 - 01:47 PM
LR Mole 25 Apr 01 - 03:40 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 25 Apr 01 - 05:26 PM
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Bernard 25 Apr 01 - 06:12 PM
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GUEST,Roger the skiffler 26 Apr 01 - 03:49 AM
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GUEST,nai etreuffaliv 08 Jun 10 - 10:07 PM
GUEST,leeneia 09 Jun 10 - 10:41 AM
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Subject: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: GUEST,Sandra
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 01:36 PM

Can anyone give me any info on the date/origins etc of "Early one morning just as the sun was rising, I heard a maid asinging in the valley below, o dont deceive me..."etc. I have the words but cant find any info (exept "traditional" "very old"). thanks in advance


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 01:47 PM

Bill and Gene Bonyun used to sing this old ballad as well.


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: LR Mole
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 03:40 PM

I first heard it on an episode of "Bonanza". I think Adam sang it.


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 05:26 PM

It's also the tune the Friendly Giant played on the recorder. I loved that tune! But we haven't answered your question yet....


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: Stewart
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 05:39 PM

In John Runge's Collection of Early English Lute Songs and Folk Songs (1959) it's origin is given simply as "17th Cent. English" - That's all I know.

S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: lady penelope
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 06:02 PM

This could be totally bogus, but it is one those songs attributed to Henry the VIII. Our Henry was supposed to be a proliffic song writer and often put songs foward under a false name as it wasn't , then, a kingly thing to do. So, frequently songs that may or may not have been written by him, get attributed to him. This may be quite unhelpful.

TTFN M'Lady P.


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: Bernard
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 06:12 PM

Try here


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: Charley Noble
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 06:15 PM

Very nicely done, Bernard. I still like a chorus broken out.


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: Metchosin
Date: 25 Apr 01 - 06:23 PM

Animaterra, Mandolirim included this piece on their CD, Unstrung Heroes, in loving memory of Bob Homme who passed away last year and went way, way up. The track is entitled "For Those Who Like to Rock".


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 26 Apr 01 - 03:49 AM

This, together with the Ash Grove,Barbara Allen and All through the night were the first songs we learned in primary school back in the dark ages (well, 1948/9-ish)
RtS


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: IanC
Date: 26 Apr 01 - 05:15 AM

lp

I've never heard of any attribution to Henry VIII. I don't think this is likely to be one of his, sounds more like a C17 Madrigal, though I suppose it could be earlier. For a useful list of works attributed to H., look here.

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 26 Apr 01 - 06:54 AM

Ah, Metchosin, thanks for the info. I've had this sweet melody on my mind all the past day, thanks to this thread!


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: GUEST,Sandra
Date: 27 Apr 01 - 03:00 PM

hard to believe Our 'Enry was capable of writting this considering how he treated his ladies!!!! Guess its origins are lost. Beautiful no matter where it came from.Thanks for all help.


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: GUEST,Willa
Date: 27 Apr 01 - 04:53 PM

bernard; thanks for the info - this lovely version was new to me, thoughI've often sung the shorter version


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was ri
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 28 Apr 01 - 04:27 PM

Ow do you think e got is lidies in the fust plice??


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Subject: ADD: Early One Morning (2)^^
From: Bernard
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 05:43 AM

An alternative version I learned from a friend over twenty years ago - I know not from whence it came!

What I do know is there are too many words on most lines, which makes it scan very oddly!!


Early One Morning (2)

  1. Early one morning,
    Just as the sun was rising
    I heard a maiden sing
    In the valley below

    Chorus:
    Oh, don't deceive me!
    Oh, never leave me!
    How could you use a poor maiden so?


  2. I went for to investigate
    And Jumped rigth o'er the farmer's gate
    A-running, for I could not wait
    Twas then, I spotted Daisy

    Chorus:
  3. Then I heard a rumbling,
    A snorting and a thundering
    Closer now came not a cow
    But Aristotle the bull!

    Chorus:
  4. Oh, dearie dearie me!
    I look'd into his fiery eye
    And then he trampled over me
    Old Aristotle the bull!

    Chorus:
  5. I lay there trampled in the dung
    A-feeling like I'd just been wrung
    Through a mangle tight and strong
    And I was all a-tangle

    Chorus:
  6. Again, I heard it soft and clear
    A-falling on my battered ear
    That bloody maiden singing
    In the valley below

    Chorus:



^^


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was rising
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 29 Apr 01 - 10:40 AM

Dear Animaterra,

Nice to see someone else remembers the "Friendly Giant's theme"! Ever since being introduced to his gently haunting rendition on recorder ('68 or '69 on the idiot box in Houston), I've always loved it performed that way best. Thanks for sparking the memory!


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Subject: RE: Early one morning just as the sun was rising
From: GUEST,Sandra
Date: 30 Apr 01 - 10:38 AM

Point taken Guest JTT!!!


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Subject: RE: Origin: Early One Morning (just as the sun was...)
From: GUEST,nai etreuffaliv
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 10:07 PM

nine years later
i add my two bits

Elizabeth Montgomery in "Bewitched"
sang a rendition that engraved itself in my mind
and someone kindly uploaded that very scene on Youtube

therein i saw our King Henry VIII
intrigued by her song
in between mouthfuls of a hearty feast

today,
i clicked on an even better version
by Nana Mouskouri
far more uplifting in voice, tempo, and visuals
than my grade 4 class and our ukeleles
could ever have mustered

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3nC4YItSAY&feature=related

nai etreufalliv
on a tuesday
the eighth day
in this month of march
twenty hundred and ten


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Subject: RE: Origin: Early One Morning (just as the sun was...)
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 10:41 AM

The video linked above, to Nana Mouskouri has this comment:

'Early One Morning' is a traditional English folk song. A broadside in the Bodleian Library dates from about 1803 and believes the song may derive from an earlier piece "The Forsaken Lover".

Meanwhile, I have a book called 'Jacobean and Restoration Musicke for the Recorder,' and it's in there.

That book offers the following words for children, composed by Nathan Haskell Dole. I don't know when, or if they are copyrighted.

Early one morning, before the sun has risen
I heard a bluebird in the fields gayly sing.
'South winds are blowing, green grass is growing.
We come to herald the merry Spring.'

One autumn afternoon, just as the sun was setting,
I heard a bluebird on a tree pipe a song.
'Farewell, we're going. Cold winds are blowing!
But we'll be back when the days grow long.'


I'm happy to say that bluebirds are coming back, and today it is possible for a child to see one. Recently I accompanied a friend, age 70, to a cemetery to do some genealogy. I pointed out to her the first bluebird she had ever seen. She was thrilled.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Early One Morning (just as the sun was...)
From: John P
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 02:56 PM

Side note: the song was used in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" as a mental trigger to make one of the characters turn evil. Every time he heard it he started killing things.

My ex I and I used to play it all the time. I think she learned it in her high school chorus. I know it's in the venerable book "Popular Music of the Olden Times" published by Chappel. Wikipedia lists a set of lyrics and an alternate set:

Early one morning,
Just as the sun was rising,
I heard a maid sing,
In the valley below.

CHORUS:
Oh, don't deceive me,
Oh, never leave me,
How could you use
A poor maiden so?

Remember the vows,
That you made to your Mary,
Remember the bow'r,
Where you vowed to be true,

Chorus

Oh Gay is the garland,
And fresh are the roses,
I've culled from the garden,
To place upon thy brow.

Chorus

Thus sang the poor maiden,
Her sorrows bewailing,
Thus sang the poor maid,
In the valley below.

Chorus

Alternate Lyrics:

Early one morning, just as the sun was rising,
I heard a young maid sing in the valley below:
"Oh don't deceive me, Oh never leave me,
How could you use a poor maiden so?

"Remember the vows that you made to me truly;
Remember how tenderly you nestled close to me.
Gay is the garland, fresh are the roses
I've culled from the garden to bind over thee.

"Here I now wander alone as I wonder
Why did you leave me to sigh and complain?
I ask of the roses, why should I be forsaken?
Why must I here in sorrow remain?

"Through yonder grove, by the spring that is running,
There you and I have so merrily played,
Kissing and courting and gently sporting,
Oh, my innocent heart you've betrayed!

"How could you slight so a pretty girl who loves you,
A pretty girl who loves you so dearly and warm?
Though love's folly is surely but a fancy,
Still it should prove to me sweeter than your scorn.

"Soon you will meet with another pretty maiden,
Some pretty maiden, you'll court her for a while;
Thus ever ranging, turning and changing,
Always seeking for a girl that is new."

Thus sang the maiden, her sorrows bewailing;
Thus sang the poor maid in the valley below:
"Oh don't deceive me, Oh never leave me,
How could you use a poor maiden so?"


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Subject: RE: Origin: Early One Morning (just as the sun was...)
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 06:15 PM

It is indeed in Chappell(p735) in 4 variants of at least the first verse.
He includes it in the section 'Traditional Tunes of Uncertain Date'

'If I were required to name 3 of the most popular songs among the servant maids of the present generation (c1860), I should say, from my own experience, that they are 'Cupid's Garden', 'I sow'd the seeds of love', and 'Early one morning'. I have heard 'Early one morning' sung by servants who came from Leeds, from Hereford, and from Devonshire, and by others from parts nearer to London.'

My own opinion on it, looking at all of the sets of words and the tune, it is most likely a product of the mid 18thc pleasure gardens or the theatre of that period. One only has to point out some of the terminology, damsel, Cupid, gentle shepherd, perjured, typical of those 18th century pastoral pop songs. However it has survived in several forms in oral tradition for at least 250 years and is as much a traditional song as those of the earthier sort.


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Subject: RE: Origin: Early One Morning (just as the sun was...)
From: Joybell
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 06:21 PM

It was taught to us here in Australia when I was in the first grade. 1951. Lady school teachers loved it.
Cheers, Joy


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Subject: RE: Origin: Early One Morning (just as the sun was...)
From: GUEST,andrew
Date: 09 Jun 10 - 07:12 PM

The tune's also used with other words,in the 6os TV series Robin Hood with Richard Green.
There's some on youtube. Here's one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAfYx2nX0_8


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