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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Liz the Squeak Date: 27 Feb 05 - 03:12 AM As long as none of your products are passed through other animals in the manner of civet or weasel coffee.... like this.... or covering small, dangerous arachnids like these , then we should all be happy! LTS |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: dianavan Date: 26 Feb 05 - 08:45 PM Keep the ideas coming! Certified, organic cocoa beans seem to be selling for about $13.50 U.S. The thought of freshly roasted, cocoa beans makes my mouth water. Have you ever tried Mole? Yum! Its amazing how versatile these little beans can be. So far the concept includes freshly roasted cocoa beans and related products. Of course there would be a bar for cocoa drinks as well. I like the idea but it would be a risk. The woman who wants to start the business is only 22 so she has time on her side. She might fail or she might make it big. I'd like to see her give it a try. It might be too pricey for most folks but if they can sell coffee for outrageous prices, why not cocoa? |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: GUEST,*Laura* Date: 26 Feb 05 - 06:27 PM How about white hot chocolate? Thats pretty good too. And cadbury drinking chocolate. and marshmallows, whipped cream, amoretto, flake, sprinkles - i recently tried very dark hot chocolate with a spoon of vanilla ice-cream in it - mmm mmm mmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmm! yummy! :-) xLx |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: GUEST,Keef Date: 26 Feb 05 - 06:58 AM Sex Chocolate Blonde Mars Bar Police |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Liz the Squeak Date: 26 Feb 05 - 04:37 AM dianavan - I could bankrupt myself in such a shop! Want a tester at all? LTS |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: dianavan Date: 25 Feb 05 - 11:58 PM I buy dutch cocoa in bulk. Mix it with equal parts of sugar and then gradually add the hot water. I like it best with marshmallows. This thread is very informative. I have a friend who is thinking of starting a cocoa shop...raw cocoa beans and assorted cocoa related items. As we toyed with the idea, I said that maybe there wasn't an established cocoa culture yet. Maybe I'm wrong. Would you like to be able to purchase different kinds of cocoa beans sort of like buying coffee beans from Starbucks? It would also feature a few ethnic items from parts of the world that grow cocoa. Of course mugs would be for sale as well as all kinds of cocoa products. What do you think? |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: robomatic Date: 25 Feb 05 - 02:08 PM chuaochocolatier.com They are based in Encinitas, CA. See if you can order the 'spicy maya'. This is an approximation of the drink espoused in 'Chocolat' |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Liz the Squeak Date: 25 Feb 05 - 01:46 PM Or else you're just eating the wrong kind of chocolate! LTS |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Peace Date: 25 Feb 05 - 12:37 PM Haven't heard from the 'chocolate is better than sex' crew yet. (I always wondered about that--means ya need a better sex life, IMO.) Anyway . . . . |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: GUEST,Peace Date: 25 Feb 05 - 11:36 AM Lovely thread. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: open mike Date: 25 Feb 05 - 03:53 AM THIS THREAD HAS BEEN REFRESHING and i like chocolate mint cocoa...by Stephens or Mrs. Fields' I usually put a scoop of it in my coffee... great way to start the day.. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: GUEST,Cluin Date: 25 Feb 05 - 03:21 AM Chocolate should either be very hot (with marshmallows) or cold. I always put my chocolate bars in the fridge first. They taste better cold. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: sixtieschick Date: 24 Feb 05 - 07:20 PM To LTS: I made a mistake. The bird girl's name is Rima, from "Green Mansions: A Romance of the Tropical Forest" by W. H. Hudson. It's a classic. Some editor's comments from amazon.com: The modern classic tells the compelling story of Rima, a strange birdlike girl of the jungle, and Abel, the European who falls in love with her. The book owes much of its popularity to the mystic, near-religious feeling that pervades the story and the beauty of Rima's halting, poetic expressions. The author's knowledge and understanding of nature, the jungle and grasslands lend special authenticity to this captivating fantasy. A master of natural history writing, W. H. Hudson forms an important link between nineteenth-century Romanticism and the twentieth-century ecological movement. First published in 1904, Green Mansions is a poignant meditation on the loss of wilderness, the dream of a return to nature, and the bitter reality of the encounter between savage and civilized man. Not a lot to do with chocolate...but there you have it. Sixtieschick |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: GUEST,Fuck your chocolate Date: 24 Feb 05 - 07:14 PM |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: PoppaGator Date: 24 Feb 05 - 06:32 PM Must disagree w/ Green and Blacks, in regard to the order in which they assemble ingredients. Tryng to mix cocoa powder with milk, cream and other stuff, and then later adding "sugar to taste," is a sure recipe for LUMPS. The trick is to mix dry cocoa with sugar first, stirring thoroughly to break down all lumps in the cocoa while it's still dry. The sugar should be granulated, with nice sharp corners on every grain; powdered (confectioner's) sugar won't do the job as well. Then add, and do, whatever you please. Slight topic shift: The Mexican "hockey-puck" chocolate that I've seen (complete and pre-mixed solid stuff, to be dissolved in hot milk) is called "Abuelita" brand ~ Espanol for "Grandma's" ~ and the yellow-and-red package has a picture of Grandma right on it. Great stuff! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:41 PM Some of us have never heard of Rina the bird girl.. I'm intrigued.... Do elucidate please? LTS |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:35 PM Yeah, but did you get the pun? LTS |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: GUEST,Skipy Date: 24 Feb 05 - 05:24 PM Best ever hot chocolate has got to have been approx 4 in the morning @ stanford in the vale folk festival circa 1990 with the remaining members of staff with their feet in a large galvenised bath. With hot water supplied by Johnny Collins who plyed us with Midnight Specials:- Recipe :- Hot chocolate & Southern Comfort! Skipy (wrapped around a can of strongbow - in date!). |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: sixtieschick Date: 24 Feb 05 - 01:20 PM LTS, I always enjoy your posts. However, I beg to differ with you about the James Runcie book. It's highly inaccurate, which I suppose is okay on one level if it's fiction. However, I wish the author had done just a tiny bit of homework. He has the characters picking nutmeg and cinnamon, if I remember correctly, in the jungles of Mexico. Those spices aren't indigenous to the region. I also don't love books in which some uptight white man means an exotic woman with dark skin who sets him free emotionally and sexually. It's a sexist and racist fantasy in my book. Even worse, it's hackneyed. Gaugin and Rina the bird girl have that one covered already (although not with each other). Sorry--had to get my two cent's worth of chocolate chips in on this topic! M. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Emma B Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:55 PM Recipe from Green and Blacks put milk, cream and 2 cinnamon sticks into a pan and slowly bring to boil turn off heat and infuse for 10 minutes. Mix cocoa with a splash of milk to form paste, sieve milk mixture and pour and blend with paste. add sugar to taste - alternatively substitute cardamom for cinnamon. AND - most important - eat with freshly made churros |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Bill D Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:47 PM j0hn, says it, I guess...*grin*....and it is...chocolate is BeautifullySatisfying |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:29 PM That's because chocolate is always worth repeating... (I was going to say bringing up again but decided it wasn't quite the thing...).. And who says chocolate is BS anyway?! LTS |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Bill D Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:26 PM 3¼ years, and it goes on as if it were new! I TRULY wish Pene Azul would put in a feature that puts in a big, red note saying THIS THREAD HAS BEEN REFRESHED when it is more than, say 6 months old. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: Liz the Squeak Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:53 AM There is a wonderful book called 'The Discovery of Chocolate' by James Runcie - published by HarperCollins. It's fiction but has some wonderful old chocolate recipes in it... including mole (pronounced mol-ey), some great 'meetings' with various chocolate magnates and one Godawful pun that's worth the whole book! LTS |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: sixtieschick Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:39 AM Here are two recipes from Scharffen Berger Chocolate Company using their fabulous products. They are as good as it gets. For Mexican chocolate, try Ibarra brand, available in supermarkets in Southern California, if no where else. http://www.scharffenberger.com/article_info.php?articles_id=39&template_file=recipes.php http://www.scharffenberger.com/article_info.php?articles_id=38&template_file=recipes.php Miriam |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate) From: GUEST,Options Date: 24 Feb 05 - 11:12 AM Options Simply Cinnamon for me! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 04 Dec 01 - 07:04 PM I have found a nice hot chocolatew it is callled Galaxy it is about 2pound but it id really nive.john |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 16 Nov 01 - 01:16 PM There's a restaurant in Indianapolis, Cafe Santa Fe, which is not really Mexican, but more creative US Southwest. Whenever I eat there, I look appreciatively over the menu, which has a lot of things you don't usually see in a Mexican resturant-----and then I order the chicken mole! Wonderful. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Sorcha Date: 15 Nov 01 - 05:27 PM Dave O--REAL chile doesn't have beans in it. I'll bet Gervase means ground red chile--chile molido. It's hot and sweet, but not the mixed stuff that has other flavors in it. I have seen a recipe for brownies that has chile powder in it. Pretty good brownies, too. Just another note about chile and chocolate--there is a classic Oaxacan (Mexico) Aztec dish called Mole that is red chiles, chocolate, nuts, (pinon, sesame), peanut butter,raisins and stock in it. Served with/over chicken or turkey. Good stuff! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 15 Nov 01 - 05:17 PM Gervase, can you be a little more explicit as to what's added to the cocoa powder? "Chili" (or "chilli") can mean different things. I'm sort of assuming that you don't mean what Americans refer to as "chili powder"; or do you? It's a mix of garlic powder, ground cumin, salt, and other stuff. Did you perchance mean ground hot red pepper, or cayenne? I'd rather like to try it the way you refer to. Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Uncle_DaveO Date: 15 Nov 01 - 05:06 PM Gervase said: "It turned out to be an organic dark chocolate with serious amounts of chilli in it, distributed in the UK by a company called Montezuma's and it was astonishingly good." But don't the beans give you gas? Dave Oesterreich |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Peter K (Fionn) Date: 15 Nov 01 - 04:49 PM So when did John Sheahan fall off the wagon? John from hull, I'm terribly, desperately sorry about what I did to your thread, with just one simple, innocent question. But the answers have gone beyond my wildest dreams, and I don't really like hot chocolate anyway!
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:13 PM Depends on how you drink the Irish Coffee. Just a few days ago I heard John Sheahan (The Dubliners) say: we are going now for a cup of coffee (waiting, till the laughter in the audience died down) Irish coffee (again waiting for the laughter to end) without the coffee (he had vanished behind the stage before the laughter had ended) Btw, John, if I do not have the time or ingredients for proper hot chocolate (see above), I sometimes use "Cacao Fantasy" (from a Dutch Company called Douwe Egberts) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Cllr Date: 14 Nov 01 - 12:33 PM I like to add Southern Comfort to Chocolate. But Irish Coffee might be more practical for every day consumption as it contains all four major food groups. (which are of course Fat,Sugar,Alcohol,and Caffine.) Cllr |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 14 Nov 01 - 12:26 PM (BTW, Noreen...a spoonful of chocolate INSTEAD of H-TML might be better..*smile*) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 14 Nov 01 - 12:24 PM wowee-zowee, MudGuard (note capital "G") *grin*...they sure do have it spelled out!..never having seen the "official rules" or even had any idea where to go look for them, I was unaware that I had transgressed! Obviously, there are places where leaving out the quotes might be a problem, (in complex web pages, I suppose)...but I'm sure they realize that unless they make it so it doesn't work the other way, amateurs will do it 'wrong'..It's like pennies in the fuse box and driving screws with a hammer--it is a shortcut which works until it **doesn't** work. I guess the 'standards' have been fudged and adulterated until you'll NEVER get compliance. (Look at me, trying to keep 'folk' and 'trad' undefiled..*grin*) well, I will try to do better... <a href="http://www.mudcat.org">click me</a> ...but the road to universal compliance is rocky, indeed! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Noreen Date: 14 Nov 01 - 11:46 AM Sorry John! I used to like the instant Horlicks chocolate drink which came in a cuboidal tub (much nicer than any other instant drink I have tried). I don't know if it's still available, but will try and find out. Noreen For a spoonful of chocolate helps the h-tml, go down... |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 14 Nov 01 - 06:02 AM What has all that got to do with drinking chocolate? Isn't that obvious? You need to drink lots of chocolate to understand it! Especially the mixtures containing Amaretto, Rum, Brandy or other forms of C2H5OH |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Date: 14 Nov 01 - 05:03 AM very intresting, but whats all that got to do with drinking chocolate? :-) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 14 Nov 01 - 04:55 AM Guest and BillD, it is not a question of browsers, it is a question of the HTML standard. In HTML 4.01 it says in Chapter 3.2.2: By default, SGML requires that all attribute values be delimited using either double quotation marks (ASCII decimal 34) or single quotation marks (ASCII decimal 39). Single quote marks can be included within the attribute value when the value is delimited by double quote marks, and vice versa. Authors may also use numeric character references to represent double quotes (") and single quotes ('). For double quotes authors can also use the character entity reference ". In certain cases, authors may specify the value of an attribute without any quotation marks. The attribute value may only contain letters (a-z and A-Z), digits (0-9), hyphens (ASCII decimal 45), periods (ASCII decimal 46), underscores (ASCII decimal 95), and colons (ASCII decimal 58). We recommend using quotation marks even when it is possible to eliminate them. Your url contains a slash, a slash is not listed above, therefore, the value of the href attribute has to be quoted. When using the even more modern XHTML, every attribute value has to be quoted (see Chapter 4.4 of XHTML 1.0): All attribute values must be quoted, even those which appear to be numeric And yes, the Mudcat FAQ says the quotes are optionally here in the Mudcat, but this is one piece of the FAQ that I do not agree with - correct HTML should always be used as incorrect HTML can lead to more browser problems than correct HTML. MudGuard |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 13 Nov 01 - 06:09 PM hmm..ok, text is needed here. But I have seen chats where the program picked up the HTML and created a default text if you didn't include one..(something like this may be in the plans for the Mudcat upgrade)...gives you a choice. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 13 Nov 01 - 06:05 PM *grin*...I don't believe I have EVER included the quotes in a URL...it really does work without them...Joe Offer has done research on this and thinks it 'may' even be a problem at times..(it sure is one more thing to worry over!) and isn't the "click me" or any text optional? Lets see...one with & one without |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: GUEST Date: 13 Nov 01 - 05:42 PM Mudguard, Modern browsers don't need the quotes - indeed the esteemed mudcat faq suggests leaving them out. I still include them myself - but I still browse with lynx ;-) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 13 Nov 01 - 05:03 PM BillD, your code for a link is mighty incorrect: The quotes around the URL are missing, the > after the URL is missing, the text to click is missing! Correct code for a link: <a href="http://www.mudcat.org">click me</a> |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: GUEST,Celtic Soul Date: 13 Nov 01 - 09:01 AM Mmmmmmm! I'm with you! I have an allergy to caffeine which makes coffee *really* bitter tasting to me (not to mention that, if I have too much, I'll wind up in the hospital), so I do the cocoa/tea thing myself. Nothing beats real hot chocolate, but who has the time??? Here are my alternatives! *Any* hot chocolate when accompanied by one of those specialty creamers: Amaretto, Irish Creme, whatever! Even 7-11 cocoa comes out tasting like gourmet. Double up on the amount of powder when using generic cocoa brands, or add some bar chocolate yourself. Spiced Chai! Especially from Starbucks. Personally, I tell them to make it *extra* strong, as (to me), it's too wimpy otherwise. Hot buttered rum! I've seen it all of once in my life here in the states, but it was a nice alternative to the usual "Irish Coffee" (which is the one and only hot alcoholic drink I have otherwise seen). MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! Gonna have to go to Starbucks now! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Bill D Date: 13 Nov 01 - 08:33 AM to do this <a href=http://mudcat.org</a> the easy way, get this little program Show HTML Code It's a simple copy and re-paste operation,,,the program knows how to write all those ampersands for you...and it will also do colors and font sizes. |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: Noreen Date: 13 Nov 01 - 06:59 AM OK MudGuard, I'll check my diary! Fionn, if that's as clear as mud/chocolate, I'll go through it again, at a time of your choosing... (I didn't actually do it the way MudGuard and Mario said, I just looked at it a certain way and it did what it was told...) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 13 Nov 01 - 03:29 AM Oh oh, mistyped the > after the first i (I only typed > instead of &gt; - hope I got it right this time) |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MudGuard Date: 13 Nov 01 - 03:27 AM Fionn, to show the <> do it like this: <i>blabla</i> (and to show a & you have to type &) Noreen, to get the chocolate cake as well, 2 days advance warning! To get mousse au chocolot (like Susanne got it on Sunday), another day advance warning. Liz, no, we did not discuss rent. But you can rent me on these days around Stony Stratford - and I promise I won't demand too much rent! |
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Subject: RE: Complete BS From: MMario Date: 12 Nov 01 - 11:46 PM what was actually typed was:
ampersand*l*t*semicolon*i*ampersand*g*tsemicolon do this to make italics- go on, try it! ampersand*l*t*semicolon*/i*ampersand*g*t where the actual symbols used for ampersand and semicolon, and the astericks removed. (no spaces) if that makes any sense.
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