Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Wolfgang
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 09:08 AM

Grin: You get statistics from smoking?

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Raptor
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 08:36 AM

Let me say that I don't find anyone here PREACHEY
I find this tread both interesting and helpfull.
But there is no excuse for preaching! You can't open a pack of ciggarets without some reminder that it is harmfull! (pictures on every pack)So if you feel the need to tell someone that it is bad for you you are NOT bieng helpfull you are only sounding like a pious IDIOT!
Read my posts I never defended my smoking! I said I was Ashamed!
All of us have bad habits that we are not proud of!
Raptor
Smoking is the number one cause of statistics!

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Tone d' F
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 03:45 AM

I gave up June 10th 1987 and I only ever crave a cigerette when I'm awake, after a meal, when drunk and of course when I dream about it (and yes I missed after sex, one fantasy at a time please)

proves that pot leads to heavier drugs tobbacco addiction

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Gary T
Date: 11 Jan 02 - 01:16 AM

Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Don.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: kendall
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 10:52 PM

I hope I dont sound like a preacher, but, when I hear someone justify his/her habit, it bugs me. C.H. if it's any consolation to you, whenever I am exposed to this topic, I also get a craving, but, not enough to throw away the last 5 years. BTW, a bit of smoke in a restaurant IS a bigger pain in the ass than a preachy ex smoker. Preaching doesn't cause cancer, asthma or any other lung disease. I still say, your right to smoke stops where my nose starts.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: The Walrus
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 06:28 PM

I'm an ex-pipe smoker (stopped after an accident at work left me subject to chest infections for a while) and while I can put up with the smell of hand rolled cigarettes, pipes and cigars (well some), what I cannot abide is ready made cigarettes<1>, What do they put in them? It smells like a fire at a chemical works (the tobacco seems to be masked by the waxes,the lubricants and oxidising agents and other rubbish the manufacturers add). I have only one problem with cigarette smokers, when I'm queing for a but or waiting for a train, why do the buggers always smoke up wind of me.

Walrus

<1> This was true before I gave up too.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: GUEST,NH Dave
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 06:16 PM

Prices in NH vary between $3.35 and 3.95 for Marlboros, depending on sales in force. I quit years ago when cigarettes were around 35 cents a pack.
br> th

Dave

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Raptor
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 03:46 PM

You might pee in the shallow end
Raptor

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Don Firth
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 03:09 PM

What has you worried about the swimming thing, Raptor? "Incontinental Drift?"

Fortunately, I don't have that problem. (yet)

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: GUEST,Mr. Butts
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 02:31 PM

"I'm talking about the stuff that comes out of the exaust pipe of a car. The stuff is called carbon monoxide. The stuff that if inhaled will cause instant death. Hundreds of suicides in this fashon each year> So many that the North American car companies are triing to devlop a new exaust pipe to stop this form of suicide."

Hundreds of such suicides, you say. That's bush league stuff.

Every year, we at Big American Tobacco help more than 400,000 Americans complete their longterm suicide plan.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: DougR
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 12:39 PM

Sorry if I sound preachy. I don't intend to be. To each his own I say. I have a son who smokes. I wish he didn't but he evidently is as hooked as I was and just isn't ready to quit.

DougR

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Mr Red
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 09:47 AM

GUEST,Cookieless IanB
perhaps your cookie went up in smoke
light comedy?

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 09:04 AM

Amen Raptor

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Raptor
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 09:04 AM

Don Firth
Thank you for your posts I found them inspiring (not Preachy)
But I don't think I'll be inviting you to come swimming with me anytime soon! :)
Raptor

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Raptor
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 08:59 AM

Bill D
I'm talking about the stuff that comes out of the exaust pipe of a car. The stuff is called carbon monoxide. The stuff that if inhaled will cause instant death.
Hundreds of suicides in this fashon each year>
So many that the North American car companies are triing to devlop a new exaust pipe to stop this form of suicide.
I'm not sugesting that we stop crossing the street. Just that we try to curb driving when we could walk, take a bus, or a bike. It strikes me that there is a lot of people willing to fight for non smoking but few look at the fact that air polution is a more serious threat to our planet!
Don't get me wrong. I admire people like Don Firth and those who have quit( I wish i'd never started and Am ashamed). I don't mean to disrespect your views or make light of the seriousness of smoking.
Just to coment on the fact that non-smokers who PREACH are a bigger pain in the arse than having to put up with a bit of smoke smell in a restarant!
We Know smoking is bad!
We Know it is harmful
We Are triing to quit!
Respectfuly Raptor

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Kaleea
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 12:24 AM

Interesting that this question came up, as this exact question was discussed among some of my fellow workers today at our office. Our office is located next to a convienence store, and there is a sign boasting the low amount of money one must pay for a pack of cigarettes. Someone asked what the price was on the sign next door. One fellow was saying he cut down to half a pack a day because the price had just jumped, another said he smoked 2 a day since the price had gone up, another said he quit years ago after the Dr. told him he could live, or he could smoke. He decided to live. Another fellow announced that he just found out this morning he has cancer & does not have long to live. That was when they decided that the price of cigarettes is death.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 11:18 PM

OK... I plan to quit ... but not before!!!...I have great sex with a fellow smoker... AHHHH! ... fond memories! Sharing a smoke ...then drifting off to sleep...nnngh!...probably won't happen ...ok...I quit!

LL

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 11:13 PM

this thread gives me cravings...

;-)

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 11:11 PM

To Doug R ... You are quite right ..."NO RASP!" Bride Judy and I have talking since last Sunday. Don Firth is absolutly amazing. He is close to 70, maybe a year and a half (?) and his personna, verve, energy and power are better than I remember even when he and I were singing together in the 1950's ... true story! I don't know what you're taking Don, but let's you and I start a business! Of course I'm VERY aware that Barbara has a lot to do with it. Luv ya guy ... Bob

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: 53
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 10:36 PM

COLD TURKEY IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO. BOB

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: DougR
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 09:46 PM

And no rasp at all, right Deckman? **BG**

DougR

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Deckman
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:00 PM

I'll give testimoney to the power of Don Firths voice today. We had a gathering last Sunday, ended up trading a few songs. As usual, after Don's second song the cops arrived and wanted to know what the disturbance was. When the precinct captain arrived, he walked in and said, "Oh, Hi Don, it's YOU again!" (hee hee) CHEERS, Bob

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 07:59 PM

I think a person just has to flail around until they find a method that works for them. But as you say, the essential ingredient in whatever method is that you have to want to quit.

Walt Robertson, who had smoked longer than I had, didn't have any trouble quitting cold-turkey. He had developed emphysema and it was getting worse. He'd have to stop halfway up a flight of stairs and pant for awhile before proceeding and not surprisingly, it was also interfering with his acting. At one point, a doctor told him he absolutely had to quit smoking. When Walt sort of brushed it off, the doctor looked him square in the eye and said, "if you don't quit, in a year or less, you'll be dead!" It sank in that the doctor was not kidding. Walt said that he stopped right there -- without a twitch. All his urge to smoke was gone! Unfortunately, even at that, he didn't quit soon enough. A couple of years later, he learned he had cancer.

Scarin' the crap out of you is a pretty rough way, but sometimes even that works.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: DougR
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 07:25 PM

I'm glad it worked for you, Don. I guess it depends on the individual. I had quit smoking one time for seven years, and another time for three. I just decided the best way for me, was to just tough it out and quit cold turkey. As I said earlier, though, one must really want to quit. I think that is the real key, whatever method you use to quit.

DougR

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 07:24 PM

Too bad we dont have a program that would work for everyone. I tried every "aid" there was, gum, patch and hypnotism. Nothing did it for me. Then, I realized that nothing COULD do it FOR me. It was totally up to me, and when that sunk in I was on my way. I picked a date, stopped smoking and I havn't had one since. That was over 5 years ago. As long as you think you cant quit, your addiction is in charge, and, you wont quit. And, as long as you tell yourself you "enjoy" it, you wont even try.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 06:35 PM

Okay, Gary, here it is:--

The following is a pretty long post. But for those who smoke and would like to quit, I think it's worth whatever it takes. This worked for me, and I hope it works for you. If you smoke and really don't want to quit, don't bother reading this post, just skipped it.

I was about seventeen or eighteen when I first started smoking. Neither of my parents smoked and they were strongly opposed to smoking, but most of my buddies around school and elsewhere did smoke. The first few cigarettes I smoked made me dizzy and a bit nauseated, but since it was "cool," I persisted. I had to force myself and learn to smoke, because at first, my body rebelled. When I finally got so I could smoke without much danger of barfing, I smoked on the sly, but not at home. About four years later, when I got interested in singing folk songs, I was up to sucking in about a pack and half or two packs a day.

Time marched on and I did some television, started singing long-term engagements in coffeehouses, and did a batch of concerts. On one occasion in the early Sixties, I had to bail out of a fairly good paying, long-term singing engagement. Chronic acute laryngitis. Six weeks of not using my voice at all, not even to talk. My laryngologist asked me a pertinent question: "If you were a clarinetist instead of the singer, would you blow hot smoke through your instrument thirty or forty times a day? Believe me, a clarinet can take it a lot better than your vocal cords can!" But when I got my voice back, I was also back to smoking again. Nicotine affects the brain. It anesthetizes your common-sense neurons and stimulates your "stupid center."

Someplace along the line, what the laryngologist said got to replaying itself in my head, and at the same time I got a bit tired of my morning wake-up ritual of sitting there on the edge of the bed for about fifteen minutes trying my damnedest to cough up a lung. I tried about four or five times to quit smoking. I tried cold-turkey, which I was told was the way to do it. Never worked. I'd last for about three days, then my body would take over and I'd be setting fire to my nose again. Bloody hopeless! I was really hooked!

In 1976 I went to work for the phone company as an operator. No smoking while on the board. Delicate electronic equipment and all that. Smoking on breaks and at lunchtime only, and then only in the lunchroom or break room. So this limited my smoking a bit.

Also 1976, Barbara and I started keeping steady company. Barbara doesn't smoke. Never did. She's one of these people whose sense of smell is so acute that she can sniff the air here in Seattle and say, "It's especially smoggy in Los Angeles today." And like a lot of people, second-hand smoke really bothers her. Makes her feel a bit sickish. So I didn't smoke whenever we were together. After awhile, not smoking around her was no problem. Then, in December of 1977 we got married. I smoked when I was out by myself, I smoked at work on breaks and lunch, and I smoked when we were out together if other people around us were also smoking. But I decided not to smoke in our apartment. If I needed to smoke that badly, I would step outside. I did some of that early on, but after a few weeks it just got to be too much of a hassle.

Over a period of several months, my smoking had tapered down quite a bit. Without counting and rationing my cigarettes, I discovered that I was down to about half a pack a day. Then, taking advantage of circumstances, I began consciously eliminating cigarettes one by one. The first cigarette I smoked in the morning was at work, just before plugging in. I started skipping that one, and my first of the day became the one I smoked on my first coffee break. Once I was comfortable with that, I smoked only one at lunchtime instead of the usual two. Soon, I was down to just five or six a day.

On Sunday, June 18, 1978, John Dwyer invited the Seattle Song Circle to meet at his beachfront home in Marysville, about an hour's drive north of Seattle. Most of us arrived in mid-afternoon, complete with our potluck dishes and fully prepared to partake of John's heap of magnificent barbecued ribs. It was a beautiful sunny day, and we sat around on John's deck talking and enjoying the sunshine and the fresh breeze off Puget Sound as it lapped at the shoreline just a few feet away. John didn't smoke, nor did he allow smoking in the house, so any air polluting you wanted to do, you had to do it out on his deck. I pulled out my pack of ciggy-butts and noticed that I had only three left, and made a mental note to buy a pack from the machine when I got to work in the morning.

Then it occurred to me — I was down to about five or six cigarettes a day. By now, I was used to going for fairly long periods without smoking and it didn't especially bother me. And tomorrow was my birthday. I couldn't think of better circumstances or of a more auspicious occasion to quit. To quit entirely.

Over the afternoon, while sitting on John Dwyer's deck enjoying the pleasant company and the beautiful weather, I smoke my three remaining cigarettes, gave my Bic lighter to a woman there who was also smoking, wadded up the empty pack, and when we went back into the house, I dropped it into John's waste basket.

Monday, June 19th, my forty-seventh birthday, was my first smoke-free day in about thirty years. During the subsequent week or two, a few times I found myself reaching into my shirt pocket. But this was out of kinetic habit, not any actual urge. This lasted for only a couple of weeks, was not accompanied by any particular discomfort, and very soon it just went away. Quitting was easy. Amazingly — incredibly — easy!

I have not smoked since, nor have I missed it. In fact, I thoroughly enjoy the freedom of not smoking. And on top of this, I'm now 70 years old — and my singing voice is still full and strong, and it's as clear as it has ever been, if not clearer.

Although they tell you that quitting cold turkey is the best way, I personally think that although some can make it, most inveterate smokers just can't handle it. I tried several times, and it was hell, and I failed. If you really want to quit, or at least feel you should quit, you don't have to do anything drastic — like getting married. I just blundered into "The Firth Method," but I don't see any reason why you couldn't plan it carefully and be just as successful as I was.

It consists, first, of deciding on times and places when you will not smoke. "I will not smoke in my car." Or "I will not smoke when I'm with so-and-so." Or "I will not smoke while I am (doing whatever)." A half-hour here, an hour there. At first you'll have to hang on a bit, but just remind yourself that in a little while you can light up again. When you become comfortable with that (and you will, fairly quickly), wait for a bit, then choose another place or circumstance and define that as a no-smoking area in your life.

In many circumstances people tend to smoke a series of cigarettes. Get into the car, close the door, start the engine, pull away from the curb, light a cigarette. At a party (where people are smoking) step through the door, greet your host, take off your coat, and while surveying the other guests, light a cigarette. Sit down at the computer, position your cup of coffee so that you won't dumped it on the keyboard, light a cigarette, reach for the mouse. These are usually the first of a series. Decide not to light that first one. Wait for fifteen minutes. Or half an hour. If you do that consistently, you might soon just catch yourself sitting at the computer for a couple of hours and forgetting to smoke. You snort? Try it!

By chipping away here and there, you'll gradually reduce the amount you smoke. You'll also diminish the associations you have between smoking and particular people, places, events, and activities. It's just sound psychology, and it's something you're doing yourself. You're in control. Just keep at it. Plan to take it slow and easy, over a period of six months. Or a year. But just keep chipping away, slowly eroding your smoking habit. This also gradually gets your body used to less and less nicotine. No great withdrawal symptoms. It's just a matter of paying attention to what you are doing. If you stick with these easy steps, you'll finally get it down to the point where you're only smoking a few cigarettes a day. Then, you can quit entirely with no great wrench.

It can be done. And believe me, you'll never regret it. Give it a shot.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: LoopySanchez
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 05:50 PM

Anywhere from $2.45 to $3.70 per pack in my city...I used to think the nicotine gum was a far too outrageously expensive drug delivery system, but at about $0.40 per piece, it's only a little over twice as expensive as each cigarette would be. So I finally bought some. It's not the same, but it's getting the job done so far. [BR] [BR] One question though: If tobacco is so bad, why doesn't the U.S. government just ban it? To me it's quite duplicitous to collect extra tax dollars from something that kills people, and justify the collection of those very dollars by the fact that the product kills people! We all know the answer: If it was banned, the politicians couldn't keep their pockets lined by the lobbyists, and couldn't collect tax dollars to hand out in their favorite vote-buying programs. (This goes for both parties--No partisan politics in this post.) Prediction: If cigarettes become much more expensive, look for the mafia to return to the bootlegging business in this country. If that doesn't happen, look for major tobacco manufacturers to move their operations across the Mexican border, then start using "undoccumented importation" methods to keep from going under.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Maxine
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 05:28 PM

£4.50 a packet here - I have better things to spend my hard earned pennies on.....wine, bitter, bacardi...the list is endless!

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: DougR
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 02:05 PM

I quit in 1976. I always started my day with a cigarette with my morning coffee. The way I quit was I just delayed taking that first cigarette of the day. No patches, no prescriptions, just cold turkey. But you REALLY have to WANT to quit. Otherwise, you can always find an excuse to continue.

I don't miss it, and wouldn't even consider smoking one "just to see if I could, and not want another."

The only thing I regret about going to my local pub is having to air out my clothes, or wash them when I get home. I don't think smokers are aware of how much better clothes, hair, bodies in general, smell without smoke.

DougR

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:37 PM

Up the price and make tobacco a prescription drug. The extra taxes will help the public coffers and could pay for smoker's coffins or cremation at a toxic substances disposal (sealed coffins, so that their drug-laden bodies won't contaminate the soil). Righteous ex-smoker.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Gary T
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:34 PM

I'm curious to hear about your method, Don. Please tell.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:16 PM

It strikes me that having a smoking section in a restaurant or other public facility is like putting up a sign that says "Peeing allowed only in the shallow end of the swimming pool."

When I first started smoking (in high school), cigarettes were 20 cents a pack. When I quit in 1978, they were 85 cents a pack. These days, how anybody besides Bill Gates (a non-smoker) can afford to smoke is beyond me.

When I quit smoking in '78, I was working for the telephone company as an operator. About two months after I quit, I was sitting there at the TSPS board, plugging away, when a young woman came back from her break and sat down beside me. She absolutely reeked of cigarette smoke, and it occurred to me, "My God! I used to smell like that!" Some years ago my wife Barbara and I had season tickets for Seattle Opera. We sat next to a woman who also had season tickets. Attractive, nicely dressed, with expensive perfume. The perfume, I'm afraid, was wasted, because the otherwise pleasant, floral aroma mixed with the fumes from the martini she had had before she took her seat and the miasma of cigarette smoke that surrounded her. It was enough to gag a maggot!

When I quit after thirty years of smoking like a chimney, it was actually pretty easy, but it did take a bit of planning. No drugs, no chewing gum, no patch. If anybody's interested in how I went about it, I'd be more than happy to write it up.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Deda
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 12:57 PM

In Boulder there is no smoking allowed in any store, restaurant OR BAR! People from surrounding towns make fun of Boulder all the time but since my husband is hyper-sensitive to the smell, it's great for us to know we don't have to worry about it within Boulder city limits no matter where we go. Despite a lot of hoopla in Denver and suburbs about what a bunch of PC nazis we all are here, the response to this law has been extremely positive within Boulder.

I smoked for 18 years and quit in Feb of 1987, just a few months before my mother, a life-long smoker, died of emphysema. A few years later one of my dearest friends died at age 52 of lung cancer which had spread everywhere with terrible speed. I have a lot of respect for the strength of addiction, and how hard it is to kick habits. I also have respect for the terrible force of depression, which often kicks in for addicts who are trying to quit--particularly for alchoholics and drug addicts, including nicotine. William Styron's book about depression (Mindstorm, I think it was called?) was based on his own experience, which was actually precipitated by his giving up alchohol, rather against his will.

The financial cost goes up all the time but it's nothing compared to the other costs.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Peg
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 11:27 AM

In Boston more and more restaurants are banning smoking entirely and in one suburb (Brookline) there is no smoking allowed in bars either!

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 11:04 AM

"Crossing a busy city street is said to be the poison equivelent to smoking 1 pack of Cigaretts "....by whom?...and which busy city street? Rangoon? Tulsa? Chicago?....point is, we MUST occasionally cross a street...there is no reason to ADD gratuitous smoke to the problem.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Llanfair
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 10:46 AM

I'm a nicotine addict who is now into her fourth year of being a non-smoker. I love the smell so am fine around smokers. I've promised myself I'll start again in my 70's!!!

Cheers, Bron.

PS I don't need to go to work now to pay for a £160 per month habit!!!

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: 53
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 10:27 AM

I QUIT IN 1980 WHEN THEY WERE 50 CENTS A PACK. BOB

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 09:34 AM

I like Marlboro and other American cigarettes (prefer them to the British ones) but I can't remember the last time I bought any packet of "real" cigarettes as they are so expensive - I think over £4 for 20.

I smoke the cheapest hand rolling tobacco I can find. I often by Amber Leaf which is £2.09 for a 125gm pack complete with papers - even papers are 20p a pack...

Jon

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Raptor
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:54 AM

I don't want to defend my smoking but...
Crossing a busy city street is said to be the poison equivelent to smoking 1 pack of Cigaretts so I find it funney that preachey non-smokers drive when they could walk or take a bus, bike, or carpool.
Raptor

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Raptor
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:49 AM

I just heard that ZYBAN is now said to cause seisures and in some cases death (22 Deaths). I tried that but my drug plan will only cover $300 worth of non smoking treatments and that wasn't enough to cover the quitin time!
Raptor

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:44 AM

Jerry,

I don't think anybody really wants to smoke any kind of cigarettes. We know all those things, but haven't been able to quit.

We're about $5.50-$6.00 CDN (about $3.50-$4.00 U.S.)for 25 King Size in the Greater Toronto area.

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:36 AM

There's a better chance that pain in the ass self righteousness'll get ya first! I'm more concerned about the poor quality of extra life.

Skipjack

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Raptor
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:35 AM

In Canada Smokes are up to $7.50 In some stores!
I'm trying to Quit!
Raptor

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Jerry Dingleman: The Boy Wonder(inactve)
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:30 AM

Clinton said, "And why anyone would want to smoke American cigarettes is beyond me..."

Why anyone would want to smoke any kind of cigarettes is beyond me. They make you smell bad, they make you look bad and there's a good chance they'll kill you way before your time.

Jerry

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 08:26 AM

I quit when they went to a dollar a pack. Best thing I ever did for me. C.H. I have smoked many kinds of cigs, and found damn little difference. With one exception, Russian cigs smell like camel s**t. However, when I catch a whiff of a quality pipe tobacco, that is what I mainly smoked, so, it catches my attention. There is no way I would ever go back to it. PAY? to die a horrible death? Madness!

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 04:53 AM

I kicked it about 18 months ago, but Mrs S still puffs away (@ $6 a pack, my Septic friends!) and it's kinda nice to still have the aroma of tobacco smoke around the place. Hand rolled smokes are the nicest perfume. I guess I'm lucky to be able to quit and still hang around smokers without the agony of craving nicottine

Skipjack

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: okthen
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 04:49 AM

Dear guest,if the price has gone from $1 to $3 then you must have been smoking for some while, so you are fully addicted, so therefore it doesn't matter how much they cost you're going to pay it anyway.

On a more self-satisfied note, it's one week to my anniversary of a year since I quit smoking.

cheers,bill

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Hrothgar
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 04:31 AM

Dirty habit!

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: GUEST,Cookieless IanB
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 03:21 AM

Funnily enough, in the last week two of my friends have each paid three or four English pounds for cigarettes they didn't smoke - Mudcatter Jeannie bought a pack because she simply needed one to hold as a prop in a play she was in, and my musical partner bought a pack because he was photographing for a church poster and needed to show someone smoking. Four quid for cigs you aren't going to smoke is a particularly painful expense. Where the hell's my cookie gone? - Ian B

Subject: RE: Help: Price of Cigarettes - How Much????
From: Don Firth
Date: 09 Jan 02 - 01:56 AM

I don't. After smoking about two packs a day for thirty years, I quit on June 19th, 1978 and I haven't smoked since. And I don't miss it in the least. Smartest thing I ever did. Of course, starting to smoke in the first place was the dumbest thing I ever did.

Don Firth