BS: Are you Too Canadian?

Subject: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 04:51 PM

To find out, take this quiz

http://www.geocities.com/left_wing009/toocanadian.htm

I answered Yes to 9.

I bet that Little Hawk beats that score.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 04:59 PM

There's no such thing as too Canadian...

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 05:27 PM

It's impossible to be too Canadian. No way, eh? I scored more or less 11...sort of. But I am a real nonconformist, eh? I don't watch TV, and that knocks out half the test. I knew about most of that stuff secondhand, though, so don't say I'm not Canadian, eh? I think Blind Drunk in Blind River would score more like 25 or 30 on this test, except he's lousy at remembering song lyrics. He is a REAL Canadian, eh? You can take that to the bank. Trust me.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 07:10 PM

Je suis tres desolat. I only scored a '1'. But on the other hand, I'm not Canadian.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: MMario
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 07:23 PM

heck - I got a seven - and I live in the US!

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Ebbie
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 07:31 PM

Wha? I'm USA- and I knew NONE of them. Fact, I recognized hardly any names- except Wayne Gretzky. I must get around more.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 08:07 PM

I can just manage nine. It has been quite a few years since I lived at the border. I doubt I'd manage many more if I lived there now, because I don't pay attention to sports. (I loved listening to Peter Gzowski! That list needs to be updated. It makes it sound like he's still around.)

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Cluin
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 08:15 PM

That "quiz" came down the e-mail Pike several years ago. But there's one missing from the original e-mailed message on that page:

- You know why the words "killer whale tank" are funny

Well, that one was the only one I didn't understand then.

I found out later.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Willie-O
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 09:55 PM

I scored 14 1/3. That was answering "no" to the Stompin Tom as God question. I'm tempted to reconsider.

But maybe not.

W-O

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 10:18 PM

Well,

I was about ten.

I think that this is would be interesting to our non-Canuck Friends.

Canadian Dictionary

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Cluin
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 10:54 PM

I think we can all agree that Smarties are better than M&Ms, though.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 11:19 PM

From: Cluin - PM
Date: 15 Jan 03 - 10:54 PM

I think we can all agree that Smarties are better than M&Ms, though.

Absolutely!!
I miss the chocolate

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 06:10 AM

Well Cluin, when I need a Chocolate fix it's a Joe Louis for me.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 07:25 AM

I thought it was "Road to Avonlea", no ? 'nough said.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: catspaw49
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 07:31 AM

If you live in Sudbury, you're too Canadian.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Declan
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 07:33 AM

No. U2 are Irish.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 07:38 AM

'Spaw,

You exist in Sudbury, you don't live.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Mooh
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 08:07 AM

Using beer empties (as any true Canadian would) to help count, I got stalled about 12 (I know, but that's all I can drink now that I've quit drinking). Restarted this morning and got a few more, at least I knew what the question was about. Had to change my kid's names after the Great One went to LaLaLand.

Beer. Not just for breakfast anymore.

Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 08:12 AM

My son's team just played in a hockey tournament in Ottawa, we stayed across the river in Hull, Quebec. The main comment from the other parents about Quebec is that their beer is way cheaper than in Ontario. Guys were loading up cases of it to take it home.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 09:27 AM

Oh dear. I got 17.

I guess you can take the girl out of Canada but ...


sian, west wales
(but born 'n' bred Ontariariario-an, eh?)

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Naemanson
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 10:49 AM

Hmm, I thought I was too Canadian but I didn't know enough of those. I guess I've been too long away and out of touch. Of course, I've never actually lived in Canada but I was raised in Northern Maine which is almost the same thing.

Was it here on the Mudcat that I saw the following observation?

Waht is a Canadian? An unarmed American with health insurance.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 11:37 AM

Naemanson - "An unarmed American with health insurance"? OUCH - that sounds so painfully true eh?

After a dozen or so efforts I gave up trying to find the quiz at the geocities link above. But it must be accessible if everyone else found it! My lack of computer skills can be so frustrating sometimes ... AARRGGHHHH!!! HELP!!!

I'm with Clinton though ... there is no such thing as 'too Canadian' eh!

Except maybe "GUEST, Blind Drunk in Bblind River". Check out his post on the thread "BS: National Nothing Day"! Eat your heart out Bob and Doug!!

Now I'm off to tackle the three feet of snow that fell last night ... how Canadian of me ...

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 11:41 AM

Sorry, to sound truly Canadian I should have said "the meter of snow that fell last night!" And probably translated it en francais too ...

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: GUEST,threaddrift
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 11:49 AM

Q. How do you get twenty Canadians out of a swimming pool?
A. You say, "Hey guys, get out of the pool".
Here's to Bret Hart, Wayne Gretzsky, and Kraft Dinner.
drifter.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 16 Jan 03 - 04:58 PM

Is Shania too good lookin? Geez, talk about yer stupid questions! Everybody wishes they was CAnadian, eh? It burns 'em. Only exception is Amercans who think that God worships the US of F-in A! All ya gotta do is, like try their beer to know THAT is not true.

BDiBR

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 02:24 PM

That's metre of snow, *daylia* ... not meter ;o)

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 02:34 PM

Danged, Big Pink Lad!! Metre not meter - metre not meter - knew my Canadianisms needed brushing up! Thanks!

daylia

PS But music has 'meter', not 'metre', right??

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Metchosin
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 03:04 PM

hmmm.....I only scored 8........I'm either too old or too young.... and I thought Freddie Prinze died years ago....and I always figured Gzowski was God not Stompin' Tom and now even God is dead.....O dear Canada......my guard for thee is faultering.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 03:42 PM

"An unarmed American with health insurance" is by John Wing, a rather comical comedian of our great land... who lives in California, as most Canuck comics do.

Most of them do the Yank vs Canuck stuff, but, if you want to hear the ultimate of it all, listen to Ron James of Nova Scotia... his two hour stand up act describing his emigration to Californ-eye-EH and his subsequent return is truly a picture story he paints in your mind. And the little frigger is some f***in' funny. A true story teller of Maritime tradition.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 03:54 PM

When I first came to Canada I was stunned to find many things had three different types of screws holding them together: slot-head, Phillips and Robertson (square) heads. Maybe Canucks were too polite to choose one over the other to aviod hurting the feelinjgs of either Mr. Phillips or Mr. Robertson. It's so common we even have a muti-head screwdriver to cope. Does that happen anywhere else?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 03:55 PM

Hey... Metchosin... haven't seen you around for a dog's age... by the way, how is that old dog doing ? She still going strong ?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 05:49 PM

Hey BigPinkLad, we make them Robertson square hole screws in Canada so you Amercans will have somethin around here thats small enuff to fit you1 guys if you come up here and can't find a date! Har! Har! Don't try it in the winter, eh? Wait till spring.

BDiBR

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: banjomad (inactive)
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 09:50 PM

In the immortal words of Al Capone ' I don't even know what street Canada is on '

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Metchosin
Date: 17 Jan 03 - 10:04 PM

Hi gnu! Haven't been around here much at all. Unfortunately spare time has been a very precious commodity for me of late......good to see you are still here defending the faith, lad. Unfortunately also, our old dog Wort succumbed to failed kidneys in the Fall, but the Westie is still hale and hearty, despite the poison episode and unbeknownst to her, will be joined by a new wee nephew in a few weeks time......no time?....right......I'm a beggar for punishment.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 18 Jan 03 - 05:34 AM

Metchosin... glad to hear Westie made a full and LONG time recovery.

Pink... them thar Robertson screws is better'n any other kind. They take more torque and they stay on the end of the driver without magnetizing. I believe all screws size 5 and up ought to be Robertson, by law, with stiff fines for any one caught screwing around with anything else. Maybe even a few lashes for using standards.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 18 Jan 03 - 10:20 AM

Laws about screwdrivers? Egads!! Only in Canada ...

They say Canadians have more laws per capita than any other country in the world. So we're already the most regulated people on the planet! But I guess one law more couldn't hurt - except there'd have to be more for all those illegal screws too...

Hmmm that reminds me - "A Canadian is someone who knows how to make love in a canoe." - Pierre Berton

Maybe at this time of year it should read "on a toboggan"! Except some frostbitten Canuck's probably made that an "illegal screw" already ...

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Mooh
Date: 18 Jan 03 - 12:19 PM

daylia...I'm not so sure about that laws per capita thing, but I do know that alot of laws aren't enforced, or enforced very lightly. In my neck of the woods that's not a bad thing most of the time.

I don't use anything but Robertson screws unless I absolutely don't have a choice (like in my vehicles). Any household and carpentry things get done with a Robby, usually a red (number 2).

We just might have more lakes per capita though...

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 18 Jan 03 - 01:24 PM

Heya Mooh! I remember reading about the 'laws per capita' in a book by Henry David Thoreau, but I can't for the life of me remember the name of the book right now! The only quote re Canada I can find by him is "I fear I have not got much to say about Canada, having not seen much; what I got by going to Canada was a cold!"

:-) *A-CHOO*

And the only sociological data I can find in my texts is from an American sociologist Lipset, whose research comparing Yanks and Canucks in the 80's indicated that "Canadians show more deference to authority and are more likely to put the welfare of the community ahead of their own ... are less likely to divorce, less likely to commit a variety of criminal offences, place less value on achievement."

Hmmm, I wonder about that! But when our relatively small population is considered, maybe the 'laws per capita' thing does make sense.

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 18 Jan 03 - 10:10 PM

I've heard that places like Switzerland and Germany are far more constipated with laws and regulations than Canada is...this from German and Swiss expatriates, who love the relaxed lifestyle in Canada.

What we do have the most per capita of is...donut shops.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 07:25 AM

Daylia said..."Laws about screwdrivers? Egads!! Only in Canada ..." No, no, no. All over the world. That way, I don't have to replace the crappy screws with Robertsons when I fix something from afar. Or at least in the States, as I try to buy North American if I can.

LH... how do you feel about the impending civil war? Canucks may show more deference to authority, be more relaxed, whatever, BUT, Tim's (Tim Horton Donuts... "always fresh") has announced they intend to make ALL the donuts in T.O. (Toronto) and ship 'em across the country frozen. Well, it's the talk of the town here in Moncton, which has, per capita, the most Tim's. There have been interviews on the news with the "person in the street" and everyone is appalled... some are downright p****d off. Anarchy may ensue. You just don't f*** with a Canuck's donuts.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 11:08 AM

Don't even joke about that Gnu!

I've been to Tim Horton's headquarters in Dublin Ohio.
Tim Horton's is owned by Wendy's and is slowly encroaching on the Krispy Kreme/Dunkin Donuts hegemony. Not even corporate America is audacious enough to mess with the sanctity of the "always fresh" Horton Doughnut.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 11:13 AM

Ah gnu, I'm lucky to have one of those multi-head screwdrivers - from, where else but Canadian Tire! - so I can handle those nasty unpredictable multi-national screws! He he he ... I highly recommend them. Only problem - hide it good or hold onto it tight, because if you lend it out or leave it in plain view it's almost guaranteed to disappear. I think I'm on my fifth, in this lifetime anyway!

As to the Timmy's phenomena, amazing isn't it! You 'Monctonites' must have some pretty stiff competition re the number of Timmy's per capita though! Barrie On has a population of around 100,000 and I swear there's at least 40 Timmy's here - you're never farther than a couple blocks away from one. There's always at least one more under construction these days. And if you include all the Country Styles and Robin's Donuts etc., well - it's a wonder we're not a city of pimply caffiene-crazed good-year blimps!

A friend told me a couple weeks ago that he and his girlfriend parked across the street from the Tim Horton's drive-thru in the tiny hamlet of Victoria Harbour (pop 300?) on a Sunday afternoon - with their takeout coffees and donuts and the heater running - and proceeded to count how many cars went thru it for a couple hours. (Now that's a truly Canuck winter pastime!). They concluded that if each car spent an average of $5, Tim Hortons made about $1000/hour from the drive-thru alone! WOW!

As for me, I guess I was spared the donut-addiction. I landed my very first job and the very first Tim Hortons in Barrie back in 1975 - What a landmark! - and I remember the big sellers then (besides donuts) were pies and ice cream cones. But I must've developed a real aversion to the smell of those donuts baking - to this day I cannot eat a Timmy's donut! Bagels, muffins, cookies, soup, sandwiches yes, but donuts? E The smell of them can still make me feel nauseous ...

Anyway I hope that doesn't interfere with anyone's Sunday afternoon Timmy's break! Enjoy! And a tip - if you're driving the TransCanada around Lake Superior there are no Timmy's all the way from the Sault to Thunder Bay - {:-0} - so stock up good! That one in Blind River is a real god-send at 2am ....

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 11:26 AM

Jack are you kidding? The oh-so-Canadian Tim Horton's is owned by Wendy's?!? I find that hard to swallow!

And speaking of 'hard to swallow', here's a little story I wasn't going to inflict on anyone but your comment about "the sanctity of the always-frest Horton Doughnut" is spurring me on ... brace yourselves all Timmy-lovers ...

The bakers at that primordial Tim Hortons in Barrie always worked the graveyard shift, and our head baker was a narcoleptic ( a sleep disorder that causes one to fall asleep unpredictably). One night I found the huge mixer full of yeast donut dough still running and unattended. The dough had risen and was spilling out in this huge mess all over the floor, and the baker was snoring away in the staff room. So I woke him up to clean up the mess and went back out front to serve customers.

A few minutes later I went back into the kitchen and there he was, crouching on the floor, groggily scraping up the spilled dough off the dirty floor and back into the mixer complete with cruddy footprints and all! I was horrified, and come to think of it that's probably another reason I have a very un-Canadian aversion to Timmy's donuts.

Sorry to spoil anyone's appetite ...

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 11:37 AM

That explains why Horny Tim's coffee has gotten so crappy these last few years.

Or maybe I'm just sick of it? Entirely possible.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Mooh
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 12:15 PM

Tim Hortons doesn't serve my favourite carrot muffins in the one and only TH in my little town. The next closest is an hour away. Some mornings in the summer we can wake up to the smell of fresh baking, unless the wind is from the east. There's a bakery west and north of us, and Him Tortons south. This will also explain the weird morning behavior from Rosie the Wonder Dog whose nose is much more sensitive (and bigger) than mine.

Maybe I should propose a new donut called the Robertson, you know...with a square hole. Unless there's a law preventing it.

I bet Tim himself never thought he'd be more famous as a dead donut seller than as a hockey player.

My tummy's rumbling, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 02:24 PM

Q. How do you get twenty Canadians out of a swimming pool?
A. You say, "Hey guys, get out of the pool".

Of course if you are Canadian you say "please".

Yea Daylia, Lets just hope they don't rename it to Dave Thomas Donuts.

Dave is dead and still Hawking Burgers. That's something the two chains have in common. Memorials to their deceased founders on the wall.


Mmmmmm Doh nuts! mmm

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 02:56 PM

The Robertson Donut??? Wow. That is a truly stunning idea.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 03:34 PM

I never ran into a screw with a square hole until about 10 years ago. I bought an American motorhome, and here were these silly screws with a square recess in the end. Well I had the most goddam awful time getting a screwdriver bit to fit them stupid things, over here in the good old UK. Must admit though they work real well.
Giok

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: moineau nordique
Date: 19 Jan 03 - 09:51 PM

If you live in Sudbury, you live in the town with the highest crime rate in Ontario.

NO,NO,NO, I refuse to believe T.H.'s is owned by Wendy's, and will pretend I never knew.

Stompin' Tom not g-d? Even Bravo (or was it the Doc channel) had a whole 1 1/2 hour show on Stompin' Tom, filmed at the Horseshoe, in Toronto, in the early 70's.

I prefer M&M's.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 07:25 AM

Wendy's own's Tim's ? And there was a sale of Shopper's not long ago... hmmm, their not going to invade, their going to own !!!

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Mooh
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 09:34 AM

Re getting Cdns out of the pool...wouldn't that be "Hey yous guys...".

(Sorry for that plural of you thread reference.)

There was a long list of school and road closures on the radio this morning, the only kind of morning I listen to anything other than the CBC in this radio wasteland. I noticed however that the Tim Horton's drive-through was backed up to the highway...some things will never cease.

Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 11:08 AM

For musical Canadians: Do they have hemidemisemiquavers in Canadian music?

And is Curling the big one? How does it rate with Hockey? Is it like Cricket in India or England?

This enquring and ignorant American mind wants to know. :)

Drove through New Brunswick and Nova Scotia one time and heard a wonderful radio program(me?) called Atlantic Wave.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 11:19 AM

Frank,

Curling is't even close to the big one. Canada is hockey first and foremost. Curling has a decent following, but I would guess that the number of Canadians who curl is less than 10% of those who play hockey. Golf is much more popular than curling, a few years ago there was an report saying that Canada has the highest per capita percentage of golfers in the world.

Mooh, as much as I hate to admit it, you're probably right about "yous guys". I cringe everytime I hear it.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 12:07 PM

"Youse" is a word much favoured by waitresses in cheap Canadian restaurants. It's horrifying, but the poor things are just imitating what they've heard others say around them. They all read the Toronto Sun too, which may have something to do with it. The editors of the Sun still can't understand why people didn't elect Joe McCarthy president for life.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 12:18 PM

Frank I'm a 'musical Canadian' and I've never heard of a hemidemisemiquaver! Are you serious?

My guess (if you're not just pulling my antlers!) is that it's a hundred-and-sixty-fourth note!

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 12:32 PM

LH,

It's not only cheap Canadian Restaurants. I was at the Keg last week, our waitress said it over a dozen times. Granted, it was in Oshawa, so perhaps it's to be expected, but it's still annoying.

Another one that drives me nuts is one that has made it's way west from Newfoundland. Buddy, as in "so I says to buddy...". I will often say "Buddy Guy?" or "Buddy Hackett?". It always goes over their heads.

And then there are the creeping Americanisms. I cringe every time I hear someone refer to a Hockey sweater as a jersey or running shoes as sneakers. How long before we're referring to pop as soda?

Yeah, maybe I am too Canadian.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 01:00 PM

Look BUDDY!! I'm a Newfoundlander and I resembles dat remark!!

Athleticly curling is on a par golf.(I just HAD to use that pun.) And Steve, in the winter it is played MUCH more than golf.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 02:07 PM

Jack,

I don't know the numbers, but I would bet that in the winter there are more Canadians at these Golf Domes and indoor golf schools than there are people curling. Granted, I live in the greater Toronto area and I understand that curling is probably a bigger part of rural communities. I would love to try it some day, it looks like a great support. Maybe I'll call Buddy down at the curling club.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Cluin
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 03:53 PM

Aw hell, if you live in Toronto, then you aren't really Canadian anyway.   ;)

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 04:01 PM

Cluin,

Hey, hey. I was actually born in London, Ontario, I now reside about 40 minutes east of Toronto. I will admit that from the age of four until 31 I was in Scarborough. If a Scarberian ain't a Canadian I don't know who is.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Cluin
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 04:21 PM

Okay, you're excused then. ;)

But the rest of us in Canada know that Toronto is really an American city inexplicably on this side of the border.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 05:33 PM

Toronto is anything but American! It's an entity unto itself, actually, and should be declared a sovereign nation, I think. That would utterly transform Canadian politics and possibly destroy the Liberal Party as well, although they could always retrench in Quebec, I suppose. Hmmmm. Naw, better leave things the way they are, I guess! We're fractured enough already.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 10:10 PM

Toronto can't be American - there's WAY too many Tim Horton's.

Then again, now that Timmy's gone and sold out to Uncle Dave, maybe it's just a conspiracy!

Oh well, it's probably better than Col. Saunders.

Hmmm, and speaking of 'finger-lickin good', I remember how I used to dip those chocolate dip donuts when no-one was lookin...

;-)   daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 10:48 PM

Is it considered bad manners to dip donuts in public where you live, daylia?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 20 Jan 03 - 11:31 PM

It dip-ends on the shape of the donut-hole, Carol. It is hereby revealed - right here on Mudcat! - that there's a new law in the works, making the public dip-ping of any donut other than the stunning new "Robertson Donut" with the trademark "square hole" an offence punishable for up to 30 days WITHOUT A TIMMY'S BREAK!

InCANceivable eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 01:28 AM

Tim's is the number 1 fast food place in Canada. Now they are moving into the U.S., could be the start of taking over that little country to the south of us.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: black walnut
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 09:10 AM

I'm too Canadian, and probably too Torontonian as well. I can tell if it's a weekday morning if it's Andy Barrie, and a weekend morning if it's Jeff Goodes. Hey, isn't it good they aren't making Natasha Ransahai do her weather reports from out on the sidewalk on these subzero mornings?   

I grew up in a little Ontario hamlet...cows ate the flowers out of my garden and my dog got to run around in big patches of poison ivy. Now I'm scraping salt off my car and screaming at jaywalkers. Yup, I'm Canadian alright.

~b.w.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: GUEST,Bardford
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 11:13 AM

Steve- "the start of taking over that little country to
the south of us" began when we sent JtS down there as phase one of the 'fetchin' up the womenfolk' plan. :-]

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Cluin
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 01:40 PM

First we take over their comedy.

Then we take Berlin...

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 04:18 PM

Comedy, women singers, Male actors, 60% of "Hollywood" film and TV production. Now Tim Hortons and "Operation Marry Yankees" We're just getting started.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 07:20 PM

You absolutely know you're Canadian when you have to shovel the driveway on a SUNNY day, twice ! Driving is treacherous at best and brass monkey b***s have been flying by all day. And it's only half as cold as the 1982 record. I'd even be tempted to drink a large double double if I had to be outside for any length of time. Yuk.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 08:28 PM

Hi Steve,

Just saw a Canadian flick about curling, that's why I asked with a lead actor named Gross and a nice actress named Mollie Parker.
Gross apparently wrote, directed and acted in it. Saw curling in the Olympic events also.

Daylia,

Well, that kind of lingo has been used by the Brits in music classes and I wondered if it was done that way in Canada. 164th note is right. Quaver=eighth note Semiquaver=sixteenth etc. Then there's the crochet and the minum. Anyway, seems as though Canada is on the same musical page with musical terms as the States.

If I could bring the weather from the South US with me, I would consider living in Canada. But I couldn't make it through one of your winters.

Thanks for your response.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: momnopp
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 10:30 PM

Well, it still holds true for me that I haven't met a Canadian I didn't like -- although they keep assuring me that if I do it for long enough, I'll find one. But I'm not betting on it! I'd much rather keep likin' the ones I meet!

And I'm all in favor of the 'fetchin' up the womenfolk' plan...

:-D

Peace,

JudyO

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 21 Jan 03 - 11:17 PM

JudyO, You're purty durn nice yourself! I'm sure that the folks at headquarters are pickin you out a good one.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 09:50 AM

Frank I'm amazed about that hemidemisemiquaver! Thanks for explaining it - for such a short note it sure has quite the handle!
Even sounds more musical than 'hundred-and-sixty-fourth notes'!

I do remember seeing the Brit crotchets and quavers listed, along with the American names, in glossaries on the back of older "music dictation books" (from the British "Boosey and Hawkes" publishers)when I was a kid, but since we didn't use them I never really learned them well.
But that does explain the accuracy of my guess!

If you're thinking about moving to Canada, don't let the winters stop you Frank. The changing seasons are part of what I love about Canada - never a dull moment! Spring, summer and fall do take up a good 3/4 of the year, and the summers are lovely and HOT, (contrary to the impression of a lot of non-Canadians who think we all live in igloos or something)!

The West Coast is beautiful and alot milder in the winter - hardly a snowflake but it rains all the time. I was surprised at how much I missed the sparkling white freshness of the snow when I spent a winter out there - didn't miss the shovelling but without the snow to brighten up the short, wet 'gray' days I was going stir-crazy by the end of February. Talk about gloomy and wet!

People's metabolisms do adjust to climate changes over time too. I remember spending part of August in Arizona one year and the heat was excrutiating! I remember wondering how people just didn't evaporate or something - it was hard even to move after a while! I felt so 'heavy' and lethargic...

The same happened when I spent a couple weeks with my sister in Florida one August. Except it was so humid it was even worse I think. Every day like clockwork around 1pm all of a sudden the sky would open up, thunder would roar and the rain would pound down in big heavy sheets - like Niagara Falls! - so hard that you had to pull over and wait for it to stop if you were driving. I'd never seen anything like it! It was a relief to go home - didn't have all those hurricane watches either.

My sister, who's lived in Florida for 20 years now is completely adjusted to the climate though. It's funny when she comes to Canada in the summer now - we're all running around in shorts and halter tops and she's shivering away in her jeans and sweaters saying "How did you get that tan!?" And we'll say "hey it's SUMMER! We do have SUMMER in Canada, remember???" If I lived in the Southern US the same thing would eventually happen, I guess.

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Cluin
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 09:56 AM

Like my grandfather used to say: "It's only off about a half an eighth of a sixteenth of an inch."
Or another one: "It's a cross `tween a bull bitch and a window shutter".

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 09:58 AM

PS it's easier to handle the cold anyway, imo. You can always just bundle up, layer your clothes really well! But what are you supposed to do when it's insufferably hot every day? I remember wishing I could take my skin off or something ...

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: JennyO
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 10:12 AM

Yes, Daylia, we've had some of that kind of weather lately, and I never get used to it.

Saturday was so hot, we didn't need the barbeque to cook the sausages and steak. (grin)

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 12:31 PM

Well, I wish I was in Lotus Land (that's what we easterners call the Left Coast, aka, British Columbia) today. The high here in Moncton, New Brunswick is expected to be -16C in the sun with 60kph wind and the drifted snow has to be chipped out of the driveway. That's right: it's now sunny, -18C and the snow is drifting on the wind for the third straight day. I could use my snow blower on the stuff that's drifted a metre deep beside the old drifts because it's not packed so tight, if the drive of my blower wasn't froze solid. My metabolism is just too cold to adapt anymore. Guess I'll fire up da 4by an' 'ead fer da power'ouse... not much work is gonna get done t'day, eh ? 'oo's on d'ice t'night ? Da da da da da dada. (You gotta be Canadian eh.)

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton
Date: 22 Jan 03 - 12:47 PM

Hi Daylia,

Thanks for the info on Canada. It's a beautiful country. But I grew up in California so it's hard for me to accept cold weather. My wife and I love the beach since that's how we grew up.

I am interested however in what's happening in the folk communities of Canada these days. I looked into the "Slow Pitch Jam" for the bluegrassers and am a fan of Cape Breton, PEI and Gaspe Peninsula music and fiddling.
I have heard some music which is intriguing from Newfoundland as well.

I understand that there's a style of fiddling in Ottawa and other parts of Canada that is as unique as our Appalachian or Cajun. I have a great record by Ken Perlman on PEI fiddlers.

When we were in Nova Scotia, we visited Cheticamp and ran across the "Country Music Store" which was a treasure trove of Canadian folk music.

One of my fondest memories was playing accompaniment at the Gate of Horn in Chicago for Alan Mills and the incomparable Ti Jean Carignan. Playing behind Jeanny was an education!

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: hesperis
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 01:08 PM

I got 12 on the test... and I think the Robertson's Doughnut (yes, I know no-one spells 'em like that anymore,) is a great idea!

Canada's too cold for me, and I grew up here! I'm going to have to move elsewhere, I think. I'm only the right temperature in August heat waves. :(

Anywhere in the world that's got temperatures like Canada's August for most of the year? ;D

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: GUEST,AccordionForever
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 01:38 PM

I think demiquavers and such are only for British music. Certainly not here...

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 23 Jan 03 - 08:20 PM

I agree with Hesperis on the climate thing. It's too cold here half the time. Handy places to go? There are many. I suggest any place south of North Carolina and north of central Argentina. Trinidad and Cuba come highly recommended, given my experience, but in Cuba you must deal with the occasional hurricane, don't forget. Trinidad doesn't get hurricanes, it seems.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: JennyO
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 12:31 AM

Australia, particularly Queensland and the top end. Too hot for me! Sydney's bad enough in the summer!

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 12:12 PM

Frank when I visited PEI one summer I was delighted to discover that village fairs were held almost every weekend, featuring traditional music (sounded very 'Irish' to me!) and what the locals called 'step-dancing' - kinda like tap-dancing. Colorful indeed! If you search for "Tourism - PEI" you'll probably find exact dates and locations listed.

The locals were a little ambiguous towards 'Taurus' (that's what they called tourists!) but friendly never the less. Just don't wear your white socks on the Island - the sand is a lovely red colour but it's quite fine and stains everything red. Must be how Annie got her hair!

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: Metchosin
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 04:41 PM

hesperis, you're just in the wrong part, not the wrong country. Right now my Japanese flowering cherry is bursting into bloom and the polyanthus haven't stopped flowering all (winter?) (if that's what you can call what we've had here so far this season). Of course you might have to contend with an earthquake or two and low water levels in the reservoirs and water rationing, come summer( we haven't had much rain this winter either, which is a worry).

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 24 Jan 03 - 05:16 PM

Of course, Metchosin, you and I know one person who wishes he'd stayed home to enjoy the balmy BC winter instead of heading off to Maui, right? ;o)

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 25 Jan 03 - 07:48 AM

Metchosin... my apple tree still has apples on it. They are so frozen to the branches, they may never fall. -19C again this morning.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: GUEST,Frank Hamilton
Date: 25 Jan 03 - 04:04 PM

Daylia,

My wife and I did visit PEI one summer. She has relatives there and in Cape Breton. We did see an Irish session...even got to play with a guitarist named Grady Poe. I think Tommy Makem was involved in putting it together if I remember correctly although he wasn't there.
We had a wonderful time.

Frank

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: black walnut
Date: 26 Jan 03 - 11:51 AM

But without the pollution and the humidity, Hesperis? Wouldn't you miss the sparkling snow even a wee little bit? Or the sun when it shines on metre long icicles?

Brrrrrrr.....

~b.w. (who does spell doughnut like that, too)

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 11:41 AM

I wouldn't be Canehdian without giving a public thanks to Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and, yes, even Quebec, for the hundreds of linepersons and equipment the sent to help restore power in New Brunswick last week. With well over 50,000 without power, many for over a week, the help was greatly appreciated. The Red Cross came through too and our thanks go out to them as well.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 01:10 PM

Gnu that was heartwarming. And I'm sure it 'warmed' more than just your hearts in New Brunswick! With all the talk of war on the Cat today, it's a welcome relief to hear how people can and do care about each other deeply, and will go out of their way to help one another. Thank you.

We had the worst ice-storm/blizzard of the year in Ontario last week too. The kids have had at least a week of 'snow days' since Xmas - ahh it's wonderful to be a Canuck eh?

daylia

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: gnu
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 01:43 PM

Wonderful being a Canuck... well, there are seldom any snipers on the rooftops, large tornados or hurricanes, race riots, etc. Too cold I guess. As for the weather, you learn to make the best of it.

Of course, people help each other out wherever you go. And it IS heartwarming. I made a number of new friends last week. Especially elderly people in my neighbourhood with pets. Many stayed at a shelter just up the street. However, the shelter wouldn't take pets, so I ferried the old folks back and forth in my 4X so they could look after them as best they could. Some even ENJOYED it because they got to talk to someone for a change from living alone.

I had a full house because I have a wood stove and lots of cold weather gear. Next purchase is a generator. Being able to use the microwave will be far better than that d*** Coleman stove.

BTW, as far as those Canadian Tire commercials about their relief truck and the aid they provide... Well, I went to CT to get a propane stove and the single burner stove was "on sale" for $80 from a "regular" $100. The two burner stoves were "regular" $80 just a month ago. They put the price up when the ice storm hit. So, as far as I am concerned, they can drive that relief semi right up their *** !!!

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 02:13 PM

I'm glad things are getting better there where you are, gnu, and that people did such a great job of pulling together (except maybe the Canadian Tire people). I'm sure there are a lot of people who are very grateful to have you for a neighbor.

Subject: RE: BS: Are you Too Canadian?
From: *daylia*
Date: 08 Feb 03 - 02:39 PM

Gnu, figures eh? (About hiking the price of Coleman stoves I mean). Money's all that talks for some people, I guess. I'm glad there's many MANY more who think and act like you do though ...

I've got a little 'Black Cat' propane heater I picked up at - guess where - Canadian Tire! - last spring. It works VERY well in emergencies and some models double as a stove too. Uses those little disposable propane tanks. Guess it's best to buy them 'off season' though.

Stay warm over there!

daylia