BS: Do You Do This???

Subject: BS: Do You Do This???
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 08:35 AM

It's almost a cliche to see some old fart sleeping away, sitting up with their head all the way back and their mouth gaping upward. Starting about a year ago, I began to do this. You wake up and it hurts like hell to try to bring your head back up to the normal position, to the point of actually taking your hand and lifting! And THAT hurts like hell!!! But worse, you proceed to go back to sleep and somehow do it again.......and again........and again. At which point you are determined to NOT do it again, but still desiring to sleep, you consciously lower your head a bit and this time you wake up a half hour or so later with your chest completely soaked in drool, completing the second part of the cliche!!!!

Geeziz, I think I may have gone completely over the hill here and I ain't that old. Am I???? Anyone else doing this?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 08:52 AM

Welcome to the onset of "Anno domini" Serves you right for having that big unbirthday the other day. Have you tried a bib?? The one consolation you have is that people don't fart in their sleep.
Giok ¦¬]

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: gnu
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 08:54 AM

I have developed the head back and slightly to the left technique. I can fall asleep at 2100h and wake at 0300h with not a twinge. Don't fight it, manage it. Works best in a rocker.

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 09:22 AM

Geeze, Spaw, get a recliner, or a neck pillow-- they come in the dog-bone or semicircle sort! Chair naps are essential to long life and high levels of sex hormones, so don't stop, but get more comfy so the nap doesn't wake you up!

G-- People DO fart in their sleep!!!!

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 10:48 AM

My cat does but never gets a kinky neck out of it.

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: C-flat
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 11:12 AM

This has started happening to me lately too! Usually about 9 o'clock after the little 'un is tucked up in bed and we've settled down to watch something good on TV.
Next thing I know is the shock of waking myself with a snore/snort and coming sharply to attention, followed by the sharp pain in the neck that always accompanies the fly-catchers cat-nap.
"Did I miss much?" I ask hopefully, which draws a rolling of the eyes from my beloved,
"Fancy an early night?" still hopeful, wiping the drool from my face.

Not the most attractive of my habits, apparently.

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Cluin
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 01:28 PM

You need an afternoon siesta. The Mexicans have figured this out and I would applaud that import gladly.

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 01:33 PM

Ha! Ha! Ha! Yeah, that's the syndrome all right. Man, you should've been a William Shatner fan, Spaw, and gotten rid of that damned idiot box you sit in front of every day, and you'd have been able to hold off the aging process better. You could've been lean and svelte like me. You could've even owned dachshunds. You "coulda been a contendah".

I fear it's too late now, though.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 01:49 PM

BTW it's called Nod Disease.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: MMario
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 01:51 PM

"pumpkin-ing"

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 02:26 PM

Seems to hit around teatime for me. Best thing to do is sneak off and lie down somewhere and crash out for 20 minutes or so.

Don't they call this kind of thing "power napping" these days? Who are they kidding?

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 02:57 PM

Our elderly surviving dachshund, Valdy, does it too. Only he does it lying on his back. He lies there, hour after hour, largely comatose, with his big belly (and other parts) exposed to public view, and his mouth hanging open. He snores slightly and emits terrible odors. He is a sight to see.

The folks are out today checking on a new dachshund possibility...a 3 year-old who needs a home. We'll see what happens. If he arrives, Valdy will probably not be too delighted. He likes everything to stay exactly the same, and NO changes in the routine. He also fears competition for food. He is an arch-conservative, but nonviolent.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 03:11 PM

my brain buzzes too much to nod off easily...I'd LOVE to be able to take naps again like I used to. (it's an advantage when driving...I go & go & go ...until I pull into my destination...then whoooosh, the steam is gone and I am ready to collapse)

we are all wired a bit differently, I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 03:17 PM

Still, I must admit the vision of Spaw in old man's pants hiked up past his waist, maybe a nice loud doubleknit plaid, is.... powerful.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Amos
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 06:43 PM

Oh, and LH -- what is it persuades you that just because you look like a dachsund, you are a contender? And -- a contender for what, really?

A

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 08:37 PM

When I do the nappy, I'm usually in the *big* chair, feet up, TV news on, and my slouch having reached a cushy perfection, lets my head rest comfortably before I nod off... I haven't discovered a cure for the panic attack when my most agreeable torrent of a snore comes on suddenly and wakes me up...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... ttr

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 10:52 PM

Naw! I don't do that. I fall asleep while playing music instead. In my drinking days I had beer stains inside my guitar. Now it's drool stains. Banjo's even worse. The drool just runs down the head and pools up around the bracket hoop. Dobro's worst of all 'cause you're already sorta leanin' forward to play it anyway. As soon as you start noddin' it's somersault time.   

You know, maybe that's why brass instruments have spit valves! So old farts who fall asleep while waiting for their turn to play can dump the drool out.

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 11:09 PM

Really, Amos! It's so obvious that I hardly think I need spell it out for you... :-)

My parents being in a very vulnerable emotional state since Arnot passed on, they got the 3 year old dachshund today. He's small, brown, and feisty. His name is Licorice. We shall see how he fits in shortly. Valdy is unimpressed, but he is basically ignoring the situation, as he does with almost everything except food and strangers (human strangers, that is...).

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: khandu
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 11:15 PM

I, being the active, virile person that I am, do not suffer from this affliction. However, I have done research on behalf of those poor, soggy lapped people who do. (No thanks expected, that's just the kind of great fellow that I am!)

In the case of many who suffer from this humiliating malady, I have discovered this bit of wisdom. Take a whole tab of Viagra and stand on your head for fifteen-thirty minutes immediately after taking it. This method will invert the effects of the miracle drug and will cause a pleasant and lasting stiffening of the neck. You may then nod off without fear. Your neck will hold your head in the erect position.

However, Spaw, in your case it is not necessary to do the head stand. Just take the pill and soon your whole body will be in the erect position and will remain so for quite some time. This applies to you because, as everyone here heartily agrees, you are 100% prick.

Again, no thanks are expected or accepted. Glad to be of help!

khandu

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Metchosin
Date: 14 Apr 03 - 11:32 PM

I don't drool, but have been known to fall asleep quite regularly in front of the TV with the remote in my hand. When anyone tries to remove the controls from my clutch, I usually sit bolt upright and yell, "I'm watching that!" before my head momentarily drops back again, mouth agape, as if seaching the ceiling for another unseen screen.

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 12:23 AM

Isn't the tv MEANT to lull people to sleep? And personally, I think it's the chairs you're using that are lulling you to sleep. We have one like that here, and regardless of your age, if you get comfortable in it in front of the tv, you're out like a light, whether you're not yet in your teens or are pushing 50.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 12:24 AM

I envy how men can fall sleep so easily and anywhere they put their feet up.
Now my old man is a prime example for this. He can sleep anywhere and many positions. He fell asleep once up in an old white pine, about 1 hundred feet up, tucked himself into the branches and fell asleep. That was scary. He never even spilled his beer!
He does that, chair, snore, quit breathing, wake up, go back to sleep thing too. He can sleep sitting up in a chair at the table, when he falls off to the floor he's still sleeping. The thought of buying him a football helmet has come to mind occasionally!
The best one I remember is I found him sleeping, standing up, looking into the refrigerator. I'm still waiting for him to top that one!
Peace, Rustic

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 12:40 AM

My God, Rustic! I wish I had such abilities to fall asleep at the drop of a hat. And I'm male.

I once roomed in a place where my neighbour, a tall fellow named Olaf, was a sleepwalker. One night he got up, totally asleep, came out into the hall, tried to enter my room (which was locked), fumbled around for a minute with the door handle, then went into the bathroom (shared facility), took a hot shower which lasted, oh, 3 minutes, walked back through the kitchen leaving a trail of watery footprints, and went back in his room and went to bed...ASLEEP the whole time! He had left the shower running and steaming like hell, so I finally got up and turned it off, and also turned out all the lights which he had left on as well. This all happened about 3 AM, and Olaf remembered nothing about it the next day, but he wondered how his bed got so damp overnight.

Top that.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Metchosin
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 12:44 AM

Rustic Rebel, it sounds as if your man might be suffering from Sleep Apnea

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 01:20 AM

If you knew him like I do you'd think he was suffering with more than sleep apnea! He's really a work-o-holic and then a few beers after work puts him out quick, but most of those things I was telling you about were from parties we've had. The tree thing, we even started to climb up the tree to get him, a bunch of us yelling and trying to wake him up. We got about half way up and he woke up. We had visions of him waking up startled at being in the tree and bouncing off limbs on his way down!(glad that didn't happen)
Rustic

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: leprechaun
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 01:52 AM

I don't like having more than three cups of coffee because it keeps me awake when I'm driving.

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: open mike
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 01:56 AM

try the link above here:
sleep apnea

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Gurney
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 06:50 AM

The only consolation is that old age is not so bad when you consider the alternative.
And yes, I do get the crick in the neck thing, sideways. Aeroplane seats are the worst.

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: greg stephens
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 07:46 AM

I didnt know this was an affliction of age, it has been a pleasnat hobby to me for years. just after lunch, then after afternoon tea, and possibly after supper with the TV. In the daytime our recent acquisition of cable TV has been a grand help: the BBC 24 hour news channel is absolutely invaluable, the mearest hint of the name"Saddam" seems to just snap that old mouth open and knock the head back, and the drool starts flowing.

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 09:18 AM

Best channel to sleep to is classic movies-- no commercials till the end, and fairly even sound levels throughout. Hate that loud commercial volume while I'm doing a chair nap. Second best is History Channel. They speak in slow calm tones, and unless it's a war thing, it's usually pretty quiet without bursts of high volume.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 11:10 AM

My general rule with cops who are asleep at the wheel is to just let them be... :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 02:12 PM

Same as sleeping dogs...

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 02:36 PM

It was on Mudcat I first learned that in the UK they call speed bumps sleeping policemen!

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Jim Krause
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 11:38 PM

I beat this one. I rack out horizontal on the sofa about 4 PM. No kinks in the neck, no drool.
Jim

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: leprechaun
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 12:29 AM

Huh? What?

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: gnu
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 08:47 AM

Jim ! Shame on you ! That's cheating. Even using a recliner is cheating. I know it takes dedication and perseverence, but if you are willing to put in the hard work, you can learn to sleep just about anywhere, anytime. I suppose you could begin training with a pillow bunched up on both sides so that your head doesn't roll to far to the side, but don't rely on these training wheels for any more than a few days at a time or you'll never be able to crash properly.

Another training tool is to pick out a chair where the nape of your neck just meets the top of the back of the chair. You can even purchase custom made pillows of all sizes in a number of materials with many types of fillings for a variety of postures. I am sure other 'Cats can add to the list of aids available.

Setting goals is always a good idea in any training program. A wrist watch with an alarm can be invaluable because you can practice anywhere... at home, at work, at relatives' homes, wherever. Set the watch for light naps at first, say twenty to thirty minutes. This will give you much more practice over the short term and, hence, a better chance for success. Gradually, you won't even bother with alarms or aids as your neck, back and mind learn to work in unison.

Oh, one more tip. Take that mug of beer off the TV tray because one thing that will give you a kink in the neck is spilling cold beer on your nuts while you are in a deep sleep. Need I say anything about the cigarette ?

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: GUEST,Big Brother
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 10:32 AM

Ha! My kinda people!

Don the Man

Subject: RE: BS: Do You Do This???
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 07:53 PM

The worst thing for me Spaw is when I wake up in the afternoon thinking it is the next day! Just go with the flow (not the drool kind), man!