What do ranchers raise?

Subject: RE: What do ranchers raise?
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 May 03 - 02:11 PM

My dad and his folks always raised cattle, but they punched cows and he sings "cow" songs. Go figure, eh? **bg**

Subject: RE: What do ranchers raise?
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 27 May 03 - 02:05 PM

'Da kine' is heard only in Hawai'i. It has its own meaning.

Subject: RE: What do ranchers raise?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 May 03 - 01:43 PM

Her's what my dictionary says:
cattle noun plural: domestigated quadrupeds held as property or raised for use; specifically: bovine animals on a farm or ranch.
The word is derived from capitale, a form of the Latin word for "head."

But ranchers raise cattle. If you go to Crawford, Texas, and start talking about kine, you're likely to be held under the USA Patriot Act. If you're talking about just one head of cattle, you specify gender and whether it possesses the appropriate plumbing for that gender...

-Joe Offer, from Wisconsin, where they have only cows-

Subject: RE: What do ranchers raise?
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 27 May 03 - 01:31 PM

Here in Alberta ranching country, cattle is the word most used (sometimes with expletive). Male calves are castrated in beef production and become steers. 'Cows' means the females, but often is applied by the general public.

Subject: RE: What do ranchers raise?
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 27 May 03 - 01:09 PM

Try "kine". Not used any more, at least in the US, but it was the sort of general term I think you're seeking.

Dave Oesterreich

Subject: RE: What do ranchers raise?
From: Alice
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:57 PM

Cattle ranchers raise cattle. (steers for the beef market)

Subject: RE: What do ranchers raise?
From: MMario
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:27 PM

just goes to show you that the English language is a strange beasty.

"cows" in this case is used to mean "steers";

many people (correctly or not) use "Cow" as the generic for milk or beef cattle. I've seen "ox" or "oxen" used the same way - though most people would tell you that those terms should be reserved for draft breeds.

Subject: RE: What do ranchers raise?
From: The O'Meara
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:24 PM

Sorry, this is a non-music thread, but I don't know how to get it there.

O'Meara

Subject: What do ranchers raise?
From: The O'Meara
Date: 27 May 03 - 12:22 PM

I love western and "cowboy" music and I've lived in "Cowboy Country", (Texas, Wyoming, Colorado)for a good part of my life, and there is a question that has bothered me for many years: what are those things that ranchers raise and sell? I've asked some friends who are ranchers and they generaly answer "cows." But "cow" and "bull" refer to the sex of the animal, like cow and bull elephants, cow and bull elk, etc. Ranchers raise cow and bull...cows? There ain't no such thing as a bull cow. (OK,maybe in San Francisco it's different. But I mean the animals.)
    "Bovine" means "cowlike" so a cow bovine means a cowlike cow and a bull bovine means (see reference to S.F. above.) "Hereford" and "Charolias" and "Angus" refer to breeds of whatever they are. "Cattle" means a whole buch of...what? Cats?
    Well?

O'Meara