BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork

Subject: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:27 PM

Please review the astonishing correlations revealed in this FAQ page between peace and the consumption of pork. Also review their

I think an eye-opening, ground-breaking piece of research has occurred here ad we all ought to be spreading the word about the Pork is Peace Home Page.

Thanks for having an open mind about this, guys....


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 03:52 PM

Its an interesting corrolation, Amos. But there is a fundamental flaw in the pork/peace logic. The US consumes vast amounts of pork, and is also (and has been for many decades) the primary war monger of the planet.

Just my opinion,
Mike

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 04:08 PM

Aw, now, Mike, only when seriously provoked, right? Right? ....right???
A

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: SueB
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 04:23 PM

It seems to me the page is suggesting that Muslims (and other non-pork-eating people, i.e., non-Christians) are responsible for all the trouble in the world.

Um. Well. Uh. Oh, wait a minute - is this one of those examples of the kind of subtle irony that Americans don't get? Where's McGrath of Harlow?

"Astonishing" is right.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 04:27 PM

humour? anyone heard of it?

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 04:35 PM

I fail to see the humour in extended jokes about suicide bombers.

On the other hand, a core threat to world peace is the militarization of the United States, which depends on the spreading of weapons building in all 50 states; as well as American emissions of greenhouse gases -- both depend upon pork-ridden bills like the energy bill waddling through Congress today.

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 05:05 PM

stuff like peace, energy and Social Security/Medicare are way too important to have simple, sane approaches! Best to tie them up with bills designed by Republican dominated business interests so that no one can make heads or tails of who is deciding what. Much more 'predictable' that way...besides, the pharaceutical companies, with THEIR new bill (they say it's 'medicare'...but..) will soon be making sure we have lots of pills that will calm us down.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 05:09 PM

I watched a documentary recently about a sub-species of chimpanze (very small ones) that shag one another at every opportunity. A case where pork truly does promote peace.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 06:00 PM

"Failing to see the humour" can mean two things - it can mean not recognising that something is meant to be funny; or it can mean recognising that it is meant to be funny, but not thinking it actually succeeds.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 06:29 PM

Clearly, PT is in the latter category here-- he is much too smart to slip into the first category unawares.

The humor is thick and slapstick, and I can understand that someone might find it not at all funny.   I feel the same way about certain kinds of BS on other threads.

"NOI", and I hope "NOT".


A

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Peter T.
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 06:29 PM

While we are dithering around here, I always wondered what was meant by "beneath contempt" -- is there a place beneath, or is contempt like a limbo bar one can go under? Given that we are discussing something beneath contempt.....

yours,

Peter T.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 06:30 PM

It is usually used by those who consider their time so extremely valuable that they feel they shouldn't even waste it being contemptuous.

Further, deponent sayeth not! :>)

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Nov 03 - 08:21 PM

Saying something us "beneath contempt" is of course a way of expressing contempt for it. There's a name for the figure of speech involved (there always is) but I can't remember it.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Wolfgang
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 08:59 AM

Some other interesting correlations, meant for serious discussion only:

-The higher the percentage of nuclear energy in a country the lower the infant mortality.
-The balder the men the higher the income.
-Later damage by a fire increases with an increasing amount of firemen fighting the fire.


Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Wolfgang
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 09:00 AM

Has any of you ever written a letter to the editor to correct a statement in the jokes pages?

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 09:43 AM

Just more fuel for the War on Terrorism, which would not be a war if we didn't continue trying to marginalize and humiliate those of Islamic faith. Yep, keep it up, General Boykin, Georgy Porgy, et al. Good for business... If one thinks of war as just another business...

Yeah, I think we all need to be very mindfull of just how we are being played here...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: mooman
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 10:04 AM

I believe Amos has done us a service by pointing out yet more nonsense that's going around and that is in extremely poor taste. I can see it's intended to be funny but can't bring myself to force antthing resembling a smile nevertheless...

Peace

moo (vegetarian, non-Christian and therefore presumably dangerous)

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: GUEST,Homer J
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 10:06 AM

Mmmmmmmm
PORK

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Midchuck
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 10:17 AM

The survival value of humor is in giving us a way to cope with situations so bad that we might not be able to contemplate them and stay sane without it. People who get huffy when other people make jokes about the really terrible aspects of life are missing the point of what jokes are for.

In my opinion.

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Wolfgang
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 11:38 AM

I did smile a bit about the humour in those pages (which by the way, in my perception, is not at all at the expense of Muslims; the real targets are the porc eating Westerners taking their own way of life much too serious) but what really made me laugh out loud were the brilliant posts parodying humourless left-wingers. Keep up the good work.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 01:09 PM

Another possible future topic:

-Why is gun violence most prevalent in areas with the most restrictive gun control laws?

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 01:31 PM

Just possibly this analysis would break down when it comes to such episodes as World War II. Of course Hitler was a vegetarian, but even so...

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Amos
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 01:32 PM

I don't think it is, PDQ -- BRitain has heavy constraints, and I believe it has a loweer incident of violent gun-use crime than the US does.

A

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 02:14 PM

That was for future topics, Amos...see Wolfgang 8:59. Back on topic...

We need pickett signs made... "Pork For Peace!"

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 04:58 PM

Are you guys trying to tell me that after some Porking, a guy isn't interested in Fighting?

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 05:28 PM

Maybe just a cigarette?

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Peace
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 08:17 PM

Smoke after sex? Don't know; never looked.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 08:18 PM

Stirling Moss always loved the smell of burning rubber in the morning...

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Peace
Date: 24 Nov 03 - 08:19 PM

Not to create thread creep here, has anyone noticed whether countries with a KFC also have nukes?

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 25 Nov 03 - 10:24 AM

If your pork comes from "Long Pig" you probably won't be very peaceful.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Nov 03 - 12:21 PM

But there are no record of cannibals having weapons of mass destruction.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: GUEST,Kim C no cookie
Date: 25 Nov 03 - 01:57 PM

I think one of the secrets to peace is to not hound people about their food.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: greg stephens
Date: 25 Nov 03 - 02:53 PM

There's an intriguing historical fact that in parts of Scotland, quite localised, there was an antipathy to eating pork, and various bad-luck kind of stories associated with pigs. This gave rise to various (crackpot???)theories that one or more of the LOst Tribes of Israel ended up in Scotland. Now, this new leads me to ask (a) where exactly are these bits of Scotland, because I cant remember and (b) have they had a more violent history than other bits. Was Glencoe, for example, one of the no-pig areas?

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Nov 03 - 04:49 PM

Oh McGrath,
you've forgotten
http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2178
which details the original Weapons of Mass Destruction concept.

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Cluin
Date: 25 Nov 03 - 11:47 PM

Make love not war, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 26 Nov 03 - 02:02 AM

Oops,
how about
http://www.mudcat.org/The Garlic Song
which details the original Weapons of Mass Destruction concept.

(tanglefingers)

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 26 Nov 03 - 02:38 AM

Happy Eid!!

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: mg
Date: 26 Nov 03 - 04:58 PM

I have been reading with interest a Polish doctor's advice for his clients, Polish of course, to remedy many medical conditions by eating more pork fat, among other things...makes sense..they probably co-evolved with pork products...look up polish and pig fat in Google...I think that is where I found a lot of information...what works for ancestors just might work for us..if only our ancestors were from one locale, which is no longer the case...mg

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 26 Nov 03 - 06:01 PM

Did anyone else notice the "warning" at the bottom of the Pigs for Peace page?

Warning: This parody site is intended for intelligent folks only.

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: The Secret to Peace is Pork
From: alanabit
Date: 27 Nov 03 - 02:55 AM

I thought it was funny - and I am a vegetarian. I didn't feel in the slightest that it was a swipe at either veggies or Muslims. I have never seen the need to take offence where no malice was intended. I have often seen humour here which I have found ugly. What I find ugly, some folks find funny. I have no complaint about that. If we have to worry about offending people every time we pass on something which we find funny, the world might become a tiny bit safer. On the other hand, it will certainly become a lot duller. I can live with other folks' different sense of humour.