BS: two types of people in the world

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: GUEST,sm
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:04 PM

two types: givers and takers

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: freda underhill
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 06:00 PM

there are two types of people.

those who can apologise, and those who can't.

and those two types also fall into another category, in roughly the same way:

there are two types of people.

those who can forgive, and those who can't.



that McLandress Dimension is interesting, reminds me of poetry readings. sometimes someone gets up and their poem is all "I" - i see, i felt, i did... and in a sense it can mean they haven't seen or felt anything other than themselves.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 04:39 PM

There are three kinds of people.   Those that are good at math.   And those that are not.   And remember, 4 out of every 3 people are bad at fractions.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 03:15 PM

oh..yeah...I sould have copied the part that says that Galbraith was responsible...mea maxima culpa

(You can't be too careful on the Mudcat! Too many clever folks watching!)

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Amos
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 03:15 PM

SueB,

Thanks for adding depth to the McLandress Dimension. Galbraith!! Wotta card.

:>)

A

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 03:12 PM

yer welcome! I just happened to have read an article in Esquire many years ago and remembered the name. It is obviously not an 'exact' measurement, but it sure does provide an 'interesting' way to focus on some of our fellow human's behavior...

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: SueB
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 03:04 PM

Bill D, you are aware that the "McLandress Coefficient" is a fiction, yes? The book, The McLandress Dimension, was written by John Kenneth Galbraith, using a pseudonym. Here's a passage from Galbraith's A Life In Our Times:

"...in 1962, while recovering from hepatitis at my friend Ruth Field's house on Long Island, I invented a 'psychometricist' by the name of Herschel McLandress who had come up with this measure - "the McLandress Dimension." This and his other scientific efforts of the same nature became a book by that title which I published, with a satisfactory response, under the pseudonym of Mark Epernay, the Mark from Mark Twain, Epernay from an old wine crate in the stable where I was working."

Which isn't to say it's not a legitimate way to classify people, by their level or degree of self-absorption, but it would be funny if some one were to get the impression from reading your post that this is a factual rather than a fictional measurement.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Amos
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 12:27 PM

Bill D:

My, the things ya learn on the 'Cat!! Thanks very much for the edification!

A

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: SueB
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 12:22 PM

Perhaps I should have said,

People who are (or perceive themselves to be) lucky
&
People who are (or perceive themselves to be) unlucky.

Perception aside, there is also the factor of random chance.
Bad shit does happen, sometimes arbitrarily. Good shit, too.
There is such a thing as an innocent bystander.

I'm a firm believer in luck. Then again, I've been extraordinarily lucky.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 12:06 PM

actually, people come on a sliding scale...exemplified by

"The McLandress Coefficient" (copied & pasted from a couple of sources)

Herschel McLandress was a professor of psychiatric measurement
at Harvard Medical School, and he developed a way to measure a
person's degree of self- absorption. In spoken and written material
he measured the use of "I," "me," and "my" and the "Coefficient" was
the longest span of time a person can remain diverted from himself.
"... the arithmetic mean or average of the intervals of time during which a subject's thoughts remain centered on some substantive phenomenon other than his own personality."
    Eleanor Roosevelt was supposed to have a McLandress
coefficient of two hours; John F. Kennedy's was twenty-nine minutes,
and Elizabeth Taylor's was three minutes. Richard Nixon was 3
seconds.

So......if you want to divide people into two types, you can collapse this to refer to those whose McLandress coefficient impresses you, and "others"...like R. Nixon. (I met Alan Ginsberg once, and he impressed me as able to focus on others as long as anyone I have ever met.) ....and our own Rick Fielding could do similar things!

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: jacqui.c
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 12:00 PM

Suzanne
Try reading The Luck Factor by Dr Richard Wiseman -it makes for interesting thinking.

I'll go with Kendall's view on this one.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: SueB
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 11:49 AM

Seriously, Freda -

people who are lucky
&
people who are unlucky.

Suzanne

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 10:45 AM

And those who think it's stuff like Leadbelly and the Copper family and village dance bands at weddings, together with some of the stuff written and sung by people who've been around even later than 1964, some of whom play guitars and have long hair, and might play in the odd village dance band as well...

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: greg stephens
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 10:13 AM

Those who think that folk music is stuff like Leadbelly and the Copper family and village dance bands at weddings, and those who thinks it means any old drivel written and sung by someone with a guitar and long hair, since 1964.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Mar 04 - 09:18 AM

To extend the full/empty glass analogy - there are those who think the glass is half full thus, no need to buy a round and those who think the glass is half empty and so time for that mean idle git over there to get up off his ass and get you another drink.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 06:04 PM

"and then there are those who think the glass is half empty
and those who think the glass is half full."

and those who simply think the glass is the wrong size.

I didn't see reference to the old "Type A" and "Type B" personalities....so here it is. I was driving all day--I saw PLENTY of Type A...

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: GUEST,Martin Gibson
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 04:26 PM

I used to think there were two different kinds of people in the world.

Then someone showed me a magazine with hermophodites in it.

Weird? Or the best of both worlds?

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Cheap Tracks
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 01:32 PM

1) People who think they know everything
2) Those of us who really do!

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 01:24 PM

O'Meara: I got your joke, even if nobody else did.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 01:23 PM

Re: "WeÕre the geeks. Our users are the gumbies. In the Mac networking world, the primary function of the geek is to make things as simple as possible for the gumby, so the gumby doesnÕt have to become a geek in order to use the network."

We see revealed in this quotation the arrogant, simplistic mindset that causes so many programs and manuals to be unclear, imcomplete or erroneous.

Love the O's with the little hats!

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 08:04 AM

The big divide is, people who are well, and people who aren't.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 06:50 AM

This is just a wonderful thread, to which I've nothing to add. So what type does that make me??..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie
Date: 29 Mar 04 - 03:22 AM

There are two types of people in this world:
Those who are Irish, and those who wish they were :o)

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: GUEST,freda
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 11:29 PM

hi jenny, can you add this link to the dating thread?

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: JennyO
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 09:20 PM

This Leunig cartoon is one of my favourites:

The Great Divide - The Haves and the Have Nots

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: kendall
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 03:21 PM

People who think they know it all really annoy those of us who do.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Homeless
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 09:46 AM

The world is divided up into people who think they are right.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: GUEST,Shlio
Date: 28 Mar 04 - 09:23 AM

1. Those that read all the posts on a thread before giving their considered opinion.

2. Those that just post, and have never heard of thread drift

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Amos
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 05:52 PM

Nathan --

Solipsism is the _belief_ that you create all you perceive; but espousing thebelief intellectually does not make it true practically, You have to really embrace it deeply for it to come true. And if you were to do so, and succeed, no-one would know, anyway!

A

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Helen
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 04:59 PM

Good one Kendall! And Rapaire - is that why my boots are always wet and my feet look like they have nappy rash?

Guest, I would, but it doesn't work in this text box - (grin). (There are people who do it and people who make excuses!)

Helen

BTW, I did add a (grin) to my first post about Venn diagrams but I stuffed up and put it in "<" brackets.   I must be still a Gumby.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Amergin
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 12:09 PM

So Amos, does that mean that when I sleep you all do not exist? Or am I sleeping now? dreaming you all exist....and when I am awake I wake into the true reality?

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: BK Lick
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 11:56 AM

ÒGumbyÓ is my new word for what I used to call Òaverage dumb userÓ (ADU). The computing world is divided into two kinds of people: ÒgeeksÓ and ÒgumbiesÓ. WeÕre the geeks. Our users are the gumbies. In the Mac networking world, the primary function of the geek is to make things as simple as possible for the gumby, so the gumby doesnÕt have to become a geek in order to use the network. Hiding complexity is the name of the game.
                              —John Norstad

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: BK Lick
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 11:42 AM

There are two kinds of people:
      those who finish what they start, and so forth.
                                            —ancient aposiopetic aphorism

          —BK

PS: There are two secrets to success:
      1) Never tell everything you know.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Mr Red
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 11:09 AM

well the Iceberg managed that one!

Bottoms Up........

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: kendall
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 10:43 AM

Change for the sake of change is like re arrainging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 10:40 AM

There are two types of people, freda:

Those who think change is a four letter word
Those who think change is part of being alive and growing

Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 10:14 AM

Helen:

Would you please put your remarks in a Venn diagram?

thanks

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Les from Hull
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 09:24 AM

Co-operators and competitors. Thankfully Mudcat has more of the former.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 09:24 AM

A bright young sociology professor went out to interview a cowboy who was, believe it or not, 147 years old. After asking the usual stuff ("Do anything special to live this long?? and so on), he asked the old wadie what he'd learned about life.

"Well," the old cowpoke said, "I learned that there's folks who learn their lessons good by readin' and watchin', and they're less than one percent of the folks on the planet. And then there are them that learn good from doin', and they're maybe no more than three percent of the folks. And the rest of us, why, we jist keep pissin' in our boots."

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 08:21 AM

there's the victims

there's the persecutors

& there's the rescuers

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: kendall
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 08:17 AM

there are three kinds:
1 Those who make things happen.
2 Those who let things happen
3 Those who wonder what the hell happened.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: The O'Meara
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 08:01 AM

2 kinds of people:
Those who require closure

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Gareth
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 05:15 AM

"It's the same the whole world over,
Ain't it all a bleeding shame,
It's the rich wot gets the pleasure,
It's the poor wot gets the blame !"

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: harvey andrews
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 04:57 AM

Them and us.
Us stick together and fight against them.
Look around the world today, it's always been the same.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Mr Red
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 03:11 AM

Well squeeked - Liz

What about those wot hide behind a pseudonym and those that prefer accuracy.......

Mr Wonderfullyhandsome&red........

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Helen
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 03:10 AM

There are two kinds of people in this thread: those who have read the
Venn Diagrams thread and those who haven't.

Of those who have read the Venn diagrams thread, there are two kinds of people: those who thought this thread was a repeat and/or extension of that thread and those who thought it was unrelated.



Helen

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 02:57 AM

There are other people in the world who hang up toilet paper?

Blimey! You learn something new every day here on Mudcat!

There's 3 - them as can't, them as do and them as won't. The Can't dos are usually the ones who talk about it the most. The Won't dos are those who complain loudest that it hasn't been done, and the Dos just get on and do it.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: freda underhill
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 02:34 AM

there are those who will love...


and those who won't.....

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: open mike
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 02:24 AM

and now there are blue ones too! ( m&m's that is )

and then there are those who think the glass is half empty
and those who think the glass is half full.

Subject: RE: BS: two types of people in the world
From: Amos
Date: 27 Mar 04 - 01:16 AM

Amergin, your slipping into solipcism again...