BS: Eighth deadly sin?

Subject: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 12:35 PM

Caught the end of a BBC radio 4 programme (with Joan Bakewell, the thinking pensioners' crumpet)on the Seven Deadly Sins. There are going to be eight episodes, apparently, and they are asking for suggestions for a new Sin for the last episode.
I nominate for the world in general and Mudcat in particular:
INTOLERENCE.

RtS
(slothful glutton)

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 12:40 PM

Shameless Self Promotion (of the kind we see on Mudcat) :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 12:44 PM

Second the vote, Roger

(And always working on that one myself)
..xx..e

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 12:59 PM

an Eighth sin? I'm still working on the first seven.

but yes, Intolerance seems a good choice.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 01:40 PM

Let's be politically correct here: it's the Seven Reprehensible Actions. Or the Seven Personality Deficits.

But I agree with Intolerance. I myself just can't STAND intolerant people.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 02:03 PM

as a review - the traditional Seven Socially disadvantaged Traits are:

Pride

Envy

Gluttony

Lust

Anger

Greed

Sloth

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 02:23 PM

MISPELING

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: fat B****rd
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 02:30 PM

Good one Roger

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Les from Hull
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 02:43 PM

Is it smoking in sessions while discussing Middle Eastern Politics?

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 03:14 PM

I'll go with intolerance as well - I think that causes more problems worldwide than any of the others.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: HuwG
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 09:12 PM

Here is a link to a thread on The Seven Deadly Sins (as sung by the Dubliners).

"The Seven Deadly Sins" doesn't seem to be in the DT; I'll post a LyrAdd when I get round to it.

There are only five verses. I dare say I could improvise something for the other two. Beware ! In today's climate, the fourth verse (about smoking being a sin) can result in things being thrown at you. And ashtrays are painful and messy missiles.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: HuwG
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 09:16 PM

BTW, Roger, "INTOLERENCE" is actually spelled, "INTOLERANCE".


Can I nominate pedantry as the eighth deadly sin ?

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 09:26 PM

I vote for Tolerance as the 8th.

Tolerate enough shit and eventually the first seven will be OK too.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 09:31 PM

There are some things which actually are intolerable.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 11:07 PM

It's ego, beyond any doubt.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: JennyO
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 11:23 PM

I never could understand sloth. Why pick on those poor defenceless little animals :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Blackcatter
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:11 AM

Isn't it interesting:

Pride (comes first in the list - "We're Number 1!")

Envy   (isn't at all happy that Pride is #1)

Gluttony (If it isn't going to be #1, at least it'll be the #1 consumer)

Lust   (using sex as a replacement for being #1)

Anger   (pissed off that the sex wasn't "all that")

Greed    (at least happy that there's been a hell of a lot of sinnin' going on)

Sloth   (who else would come last?)

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:56 AM

Limitation (of Self and of Life).

(often expressing as: cynicism, pessimism, disbelief, self-hatred, ignorance, hatred of others, rejection of life, withdrawal, depression, reductionism, negativism, and similar mental-emotional habits/philosophies...all springing from the original incorrect assumption of extreme limitation.)

If there is an original sin, that's it: The belief in limitation (and separation). Directly from it spring the other 7.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 03:51 AM

In mitigation, your honour, I plead mis-typing rather than mis-spelling, and a failure to preview. Can several thousand other similar offences be taken into consideration??

RtS

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:13 AM

Farting, when you're sharing a sleepng bag - unless your partner is kinky that way !

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: mooman
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:37 AM

8. Intolerance

As amply demonstrated on a limited number of threads on this forum.

Peace

moo

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:49 PM

The Kippers did a far better Seven Deadly Sins song - Their Sloth verse had the participant hanging from the light fitting , as I recall. But I would agree with Roger with regard to Intolerance .

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 06:49 PM

Little Hawk's "Limitation (of Self and of Life)" is equivalent to the meaning of "accidie", when this list was being put together, translated, rather misleadingly, as "sloth".

I'd say intolerwqnce isn't so much a root sin, it's a poison brewed up when you mix up a bunch of the others - mainly envy, pride, and wrath.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 07:50 PM

FOLK MUSIC!

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 09:43 PM

I'll go along with intolerance for 8 but where is this going to end! Next someone will want 9 and then 10 and then 11. When is this going to STOP! I just can't stand any more sins. Crip's I have enough trouble just keeping up with the first seven. WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE ~~ I JUST WON'T STAND FOR IT!!!!   

Cap't Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Fishpicker
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:52 PM

I won't tolerate intolerance

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:25 PM

Voting for Blair or Bush in the next election - now, there's a sin that deserves purgatory...

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 05:22 AM

George - how right you are! I think that those who have survived the B & B years should be able to go straight to heaven.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 05:45 AM

The majority of people in the UK won't have the opportunity to vote or not vote for Blair - only the people who live in his constituency have that dubious honour. If you mean 'don't vote labour', then what's the alternative? Michael 'Oil-Slick Personified' Howard's Conservatives? I think I'll just emigrate now.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 05:58 AM

That's what I'm in the process of doing now - but to America so there's the other B.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Jim McLean
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 09:36 AM

HuwG, I wrote the Seven Deadly Sins as sung by the Dubliners. I based it, obviously, on Kissin's Nae Sin.
Jim McLean

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 03:05 PM

I agree that 'intolerance', as bad as it is, can be thought of as a combination of several others.

My nomination... 'lack of perspective'

not sure I can express it in one word like the others, but it includes the concepts of 'narrowmindedness' 'shallowness' 'isolationism' 'ignorance' and a few other words that express a deep reluctance to see beyond one's own inculcated habits and beliefs.

(note...'ignorance', in my view implies cultivated lack of perspective, rather than 'stupidity', which is genetic and/or incurable)

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 10:04 AM

Intolerance should replace lust.

Nothing wrong with Lust at all!

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Gurney
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 03:58 AM

Political correcting. That engenders a reaction from me.
The others are just human nature.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 04:07 AM

Can I suggest that "disrespect" could be number eight. Life seems to revolve around our relationships or lack of, with others. We may disrespect our bodies, ourselves others in so many ways, animals, property etc etc. Be Blessed.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: Mr Red
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 08:37 AM

Actually pride is really a summer sin and didn't a Pope say it? (er one of the Alexanders I think it was)

And Pride cometh before a fall.

(OK pedants - tell us the correct quote..... but an haughty countenance is just not as funny)

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: vectis
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 01:06 PM

I was always told that the eighth deadly sin was 'getting caught'.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 04 - 11:34 PM

Summer Sin?
Is that like summer teeth?
You know, some er in, an sum er out

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: hesperis
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 10:33 AM

Interesting one, Georgiansilver. Probably more accurate as a sin than intolerance... because intolerance of certain things is necessary, whereas disrespect is hardly ever truly necessary and even when it's justifiable can come back to bite you in the ass.

Subject: RE: BS: Eighth deadly sin?
From: s&r
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 11:09 AM

malice