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BS: Sex, religion and politics

MBSLynne 23 Oct 04 - 07:01 AM
GUEST,Soma 23 Oct 04 - 07:10 AM
MBSLynne 23 Oct 04 - 07:13 AM
McGrath of Harlow 23 Oct 04 - 07:36 AM
Amos 23 Oct 04 - 09:17 AM
McGrath of Harlow 23 Oct 04 - 09:26 AM
MBSLynne 23 Oct 04 - 10:18 AM
Ron Davies 23 Oct 04 - 10:26 AM
Georgiansilver 23 Oct 04 - 10:27 AM
John MacKenzie 23 Oct 04 - 10:47 AM
MBSLynne 23 Oct 04 - 10:59 AM
Georgiansilver 23 Oct 04 - 11:52 AM
Chris Green 23 Oct 04 - 11:55 AM
MBSLynne 23 Oct 04 - 12:47 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Oct 04 - 12:58 PM
frogprince 23 Oct 04 - 01:06 PM
GUEST,tongueincheek 23 Oct 04 - 01:11 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Oct 04 - 01:12 PM
Chris Green 23 Oct 04 - 01:36 PM
Amos 23 Oct 04 - 01:42 PM
frogprince 23 Oct 04 - 02:00 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Oct 04 - 03:16 PM
Amos 23 Oct 04 - 03:34 PM
John MacKenzie 23 Oct 04 - 03:46 PM
Bill D 23 Oct 04 - 07:02 PM
Blissfully Ignorant 23 Oct 04 - 09:14 PM
Hrothgar 24 Oct 04 - 06:51 AM
John MacKenzie 24 Oct 04 - 08:54 AM
MBSLynne 24 Oct 04 - 10:29 AM
Amos 24 Oct 04 - 10:54 AM
el_punkoid_nouveau 24 Oct 04 - 01:48 PM
GUEST,Boab 25 Oct 04 - 04:39 AM
muppitz 25 Oct 04 - 11:14 AM
Micca 25 Oct 04 - 01:50 PM
John MacKenzie 25 Oct 04 - 02:59 PM
Peace 25 Oct 04 - 03:27 PM
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Subject: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: MBSLynne
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 07:01 AM

Having just somehow broken my own rule of not even reading the political threads and actually having contributed to one I realised that I must have opened it in desperation because most of the BS threads at the moment seem to be about politics. Consequently, I thought I'd start one without politics.

Sex, religion and politics are supposed to be the three banned subjects for discussion at dinners. I don't talk politics usually because people get so worked up about it and often religion is the same, though sometimes more interesting, especially among tolerant people. Sex, however, I see nothing against talking about, so, who's going to start the conversation???

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: GUEST,Soma
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 07:10 AM

Vote to Fuck God


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: MBSLynne
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 07:13 AM

Good start! But I believe in the Godess, and I'm straight! I suppose there's always the Horned God.......


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 07:36 AM

Whatb else is there to talk about? Especially if you add sport to that list, which some pubs do. There's the weather, but even that gets political now, what with global warming and that. I suppose you could talk about books and so forth, but what are the books and so forth going to be about?

I suppose there's music, so long as you don't include songs.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 09:17 AM

Let's just pray that the Republicans don't put an end to sex.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 09:26 AM

I suppose you can talk about food and drink. Except that both those can get pretty political.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: MBSLynne
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 10:18 AM

Tell jokes? Nah...definitely too many political ones...


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Ron Davies
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 10:26 AM

Just a little patience---

After the post-mortems about why Bush lost, the political threads will drop off dramatically.

But when is the UK election?



Anyway----on with the discussions about sex.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 10:27 AM

Why would anyone want to talk about it on a thread??? Just do it!!!
Best wishes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 10:47 AM

When one reaches a certain age, talking about it is as good as it gets.
Giok......Don't ask me how I know!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: MBSLynne
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 10:59 AM

Georgiansilver...my husband has been away in Canada for a week! All I'm ALLOWED to do is talk about it!

When is the UK election? Who knows? It won't make any difference to anything.....we'll either exchange one bunch of a--holes for another or we'll keep the a--holes we've got. Oooops! There you are...I've been dragged into talking politics AGAIN!!!!

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 11:52 AM

In that case Lynne, feel free.....nothing to stop you thinking, with anticipation, about his return though........
Best wishes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Chris Green
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 11:55 AM

Surely talking about it constitutes oral sex? :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: MBSLynne
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 12:47 PM

I nearly said "OK, come on guys let's have oral sex then!" but decided against it......


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 12:58 PM

This is getting as bad as the thread about people tongueing and slurring their whistles.
BTW I live just south of Tongue.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 01:06 PM

for what I am bout to eat, I give thanks...


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: GUEST,tongueincheek
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 01:11 PM

I`m a firm believer in the "Oral" tradition!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 01:12 PM

Learning the fingering on the Pink Oboe huh!
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Chris Green
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 01:36 PM

Frogprince - without wishing to be too rude, they say you are what you eat! :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 01:42 PM

Uhoh -- a lot of people are in trouble now!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: frogprince
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 02:00 PM

Probably true, DeullingB,..I've tried to give the stuff up, but addiction can be a terrible thing..


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 03:16 PM

You wait till I come visiting Amos, then you'll find out all about trouble.
Tijuana here I come, get the Tequila far from warm, dah de dah dedahahaha
Giok.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Amos
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 03:34 PM

When's it gonna be, then Giok? Planning to swing down here? I know the way to Tijuana from here... :D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 03:46 PM

Well so far it's SFO, then a visit to Lovely Nancy, [Adieu sweet lovely Nancy, ten thousand times adieu] Then a zoom across to Vegas via Bakersfield, [Marylin where are you now]a flight over the Grand Canyon, a trip to San Diego via Lake Havasu or not depending on time. When there I intend to visit my old santee. How does that grab you my friend?
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 07:02 PM

big difference between "talking about sex" and 'talking sexy', and many folks are not real comfy with either. Sex is one of those subjects where many worry about their image if they say the wrong thing.
I spent 3 years working in an "adult" book store and got used to images, language, gadgets, opinions, fetishes...and just generally hearing folks ask, tell and worry about their sex lives, lack thereof, and wish lists.....such variety we have in humans!

What I learned is that sex is a lot like music....some folks like to create tunes & lyrics, some like only following or listening to what has already been done, some do well in harmonies with others while others MUST direct and/or choose the tune. Likewise, some like 'visuals'(live or pictures) while others like stories and imagination with the images only in their heads.

....and one of the most important things I learned is how awkward it is for many folks to compare and sort out these varied approaches when they are trying to form relationships, because there has been, up to now, few avenues for 'standard' comparison of views and attitudes, other than gossip in peer groups which leads to SUCH bad information sometimes!...but in the last few years, the internet/WWW has begun to change all that....people are finding like minded souls and developing their 'interests' BEFORE they meet others. This can be good AND bad, but at least opportunities are widening...


wow...I do go on, hmmm?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 23 Oct 04 - 09:14 PM

What what what? Why would one want to talk about sex at the dinner table, when one can have sex on the dinner table? Deary me, what happended to inventiveness?

I always try my hardest to start some healthy debates at the dinner table, especially at Christmas when everyone's a bit tipsy. Problem is, my family are all athiests, and what's more they're all liberal commie left-wing surrender monkeys. I usually resort to playing Devil's advocate and saying something like 'Isn't George Bush simply darling?'. That works.

*tongue firmly placed in cheek*


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Hrothgar
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 06:51 AM

... can't go back to that restaurant again ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 08:54 AM

BI--Don't you mean 'Isn't George Bush simple darling'?
Giok ;~)


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: MBSLynne
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 10:29 AM

Very nicely put BillD! The sex/music allegory is very apposite.

BI....now why doesn't it surprise me to see you turn up on this thread!!?? How is our new club going?

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Amos
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 10:54 AM

Bill D:

WHat an interesting experience, all told, that must have been! :) Thanks for the abstract -- I found it enlightening.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: el_punkoid_nouveau
Date: 24 Oct 04 - 01:48 PM

Hey everybody - I'm back!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone can stop talking about it...

Any thoughts on what, say, Blind IO, the crocodile God Offler or the Great God Om would have to say? And would the first and last topics be an Abomination unto Nuggan?

epn


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 04:39 AM

Been turned on to this thread right from the start.Grrrr! Where the hell ARE those old loveletters---can't remember a friggin thing.......


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: muppitz
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 11:14 AM

Everyone should talk about sex more!
It makes it so much better when you have a no holds barred sexual honesty with each other! My ex taught me so much and made me more vocally liberated, which led to me being more sexually liberated.
If we lived a bit closer to each other he wouldn't be my ex!

Damn shame!

Muppitz x


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Micca
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 01:50 PM

It reminds me of a photograph of a wall( reputed to be the "Saracens Head" in Glasgow, a Notorious Orange (as in Irish sectarian) pub) divided vertically in to three columns, headed Sex, Politics, Religion. Someone had written the same 3 words in each column
"F*** The Pope"


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 02:59 PM

Ah dinnae think it's the Sarrie Heid Micca, mind ye ah could think o'a few it micht hae been.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Peace
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 03:27 PM

Politics bore me; religion is ultra personal; I vaguely remember sex.

Back to the Giant Rabbit thread. That's it, rabbits know about sex, little thumpers that they are.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Sweetfia
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 04:25 PM

Yes, no, maybe...!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Micca
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 04:45 PM

one is reminded also of the young lady filling in the survey, under Sex it had a space that said M or F, and she said F definately, I havent M-ed since I was a teenager!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Peace
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 05:00 PM

LOL--haven't heard that one before.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 05:17 PM

This is always a good topic that I am comfortable with.

Ladies, please describe your take on female ejaculation.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: MBSLynne
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 05:52 PM

Eeeeeek! There...that's a female ejaculation.

Brucie...can I help you to remember....?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Once Famous
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 05:57 PM

MBSLynne;

Is that how you scream during an orgasm or did you just see a mouse?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 06:10 PM

This thread was meant as fun MG not for your perverted self gratification go buy a porn mag.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 07:34 PM

Leave Martin alone now! He's suave, handsome, ever so clever and self-assured.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 07:44 PM

And one could imply that he would be bound to know a lot about orgasms
being the "Type of person he is".
Best wishes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: frogprince
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 08:31 PM

Given the premise of this thread, I can't see that anyone has a real complaint if Martin happens to talk "dirty"; no one complained when I did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 09:21 PM

The term female ejaculation, originated by Sevely and Bennett (1975) and Belzer (1981), refers to the orgasmic expulsion which is at least partially homologous to male ejaculation, rather than any other sort of expulsion of liquid which might occur at the time of a woman's orgasm, such as urine or vaginal secretions (Addiego et al., 1981). Since then, controversy has surrounded this topic as to where female ejaculate would come from, whether it truly is of the same consistency as seminal fluid in men, or whether women are merely urinating at the experience of an intense orgasm.

Perry and Whipple's (1981) study of pelvic muscle strength in relation to females who claimed to be ejaculators hypothesized the women who ejaculated upon orgasm have stronger pelvic muscle contractions under voluntary control than women who do not. This study also raised questions as to whether women can only have clitoral or vaginal orgasms by noting that women who ejaculated not only had stronger pubococcygeal muscle contractions, but also had stronger uterine contractions than non-ejaculators.

Yes, I belive. Rustic


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Bill D
Date: 25 Oct 04 - 09:44 PM

info on Skene's glands which may be the source of clear ejaculate. (why use a library, when you have Mudcat!)

and I'll bet Martin HAS M'd since he was a teenager...*grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: Peace
Date: 26 Oct 04 - 12:22 AM

I recall a psychiatrist friend of mine who would ask patients--in the course of getting to the difficulties they were undergoing--if they ever M'd. Most people would say they didn't (hadn't). He would reply, "So, you tried it once and didn't LIKE IT?"

MBSLynne: Remember WHAT?


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Subject: RE: BS: Sex, religion and politics
From: chris nightbird childs
Date: 26 Oct 04 - 12:26 AM

I don't know of your experience Rustic Rebel, but I don't think it's urine. And to my experience the female org doesn't sound like "Eeeek!" You're so silly Lynne...


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