Help in translation

Subject: Help in translation
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 05:15 PM

any help in translating the following would be greatly appreciated we think it could be catalonian but we are not sure

Idil-li

Vinguda és ja la dolça primavera,

passa l'hivern amb sos cruels

rigors

rumbeja als brots l'arbreda

falaguera,

valls i muntanyes, valls i muntanyes

s'han cobert de flors.



No és veritat, oh dolça

aimada mia,

que tot mirant et cel pur i seré,

al contemplar com va

morint el dia

tu ploraries, tu ploraries sens

saber perquè.

many thanks in advance

Gerry

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 05:58 PM

I'd guess it's more likely Occitane (which is quite closely related to Catalan), and probably an old form of that.

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: Peace
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 06:14 PM

www.divisi.es/partituras/idili.pdf

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 06:18 PM

www.divisi.es/partituras/idili.pdf

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: Peace
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 06:28 PM

The following is in Spanish and it may help with your quest for the language of the song.

Idi-li
Joan Altisent (1891-1971)

Vinguda es ja la dolça primavera, passa l'hivern amb sos crudels rigors
rumbeja els brots l'arbreda falaguera. Valls y montanyes s'han cobert de flors
No es veritat, Oh dolça aimada mia que tot mirant el cel pur i serè
al contemplar com va morint el dia tu ploraries sens saber per que.

Ya llega la dulce primavera, y pasan los crudos rigores del invierno. La arboleda luce seductora sus primeros brotes. Valles y montañas se han cubierto de flores. ¿No es verdad, Oh dulce amada mía, que bajo el cielo puro y claro, al contemplar como va muriendo el día, tus ojos se empañan de lágrimas, sin saber por qué?.

Nacido en Barcelona, Joan Altisent dirigió durante varios años el orfeón Barcelonés, dedicándose intensamente a la pedagogía musical. Trabajador infatigable, compuso diversas obras de carácter instrumental y vocal, habiédose ganado merecidamente un reconocido prestigio en la triple faceta de compositor, propulsor de la vida musical catalana y mecenas. Entre sus obras destacan varios lieders sobre obras poéticas de escritores catalanes. Es también conocida su ópera "Amunt", estrenada en el Liceo de Barcelona en 1959.

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: Peace
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 06:31 PM

Thank you, GUEST, very much.

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: Noreen
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 06:40 PM

This link will work:
http://www.divisi.es/partituras/idili.pdf

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: Peace
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 06:46 PM

I can't even get things to turn blue. And that's despite repeated tutorials from a few 'catters. Thank you.

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 07:39 PM

A choral clip at Idi-li

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: Peace
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 07:44 PM

Here is a machine translation of the last paragraph. Gives one the general idea, anyway.

"Born in Barcelona, Joan Altisent directed during various years the from barcelona choral society, being dedicated intensely to the musical teaching. Untiring worker, composed diverse works of vocal and instrumental character, habiédose earned merecidamente a recognized prestige in the triple cuts of composer, propellant of the Catalonian musical life and sponsor. Among their works they emphasize various lieders on Catalonian writers poetics works. Is also acquaintance her opera "Amunt", premiered in the Lyceum of Barcelona in 1959."

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 04:17 AM

Thanks for your help so far everyone but I still need a translation of the actual words

Gerry

Subject: RE: Help in translation
From: gigix
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 10:28 AM

Sweet springtime has come, cruel rigours of winter are passing
Seductive plants are showing their buds, valleys and mountains are covered with flowers
Is it not true, my sweet loved one, that when you'll look at the pure and clear sky
When you will see he way the day is dying, you will cry without knowing why?

Luigi