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BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites

MMario 18 Nov 04 - 01:03 PM
Stilly River Sage 18 Nov 04 - 01:55 PM
Bat Goddess 18 Nov 04 - 03:22 PM
Mary in Kentucky 18 Nov 04 - 03:28 PM
Bat Goddess 18 Nov 04 - 03:42 PM
Dani 18 Nov 04 - 03:59 PM
Rustic Rebel 18 Nov 04 - 05:41 PM
Stilly River Sage 18 Nov 04 - 06:13 PM
Terry Allan Hall 18 Nov 04 - 06:47 PM
DougR 18 Nov 04 - 07:22 PM
Stilly River Sage 18 Nov 04 - 11:03 PM
dianavan 19 Nov 04 - 12:30 AM
catspaw49 19 Nov 04 - 12:56 AM
The Fooles Troupe 19 Nov 04 - 02:13 AM
dianavan 19 Nov 04 - 03:20 AM
MMario 19 Nov 04 - 09:55 AM
MMario 19 Nov 04 - 10:03 AM
Stilly River Sage 19 Nov 04 - 10:52 AM
MMario 19 Nov 04 - 10:57 AM
GUEST,bbc at work 19 Nov 04 - 11:25 AM
bbc 20 Nov 04 - 08:57 AM
GUEST 20 Nov 04 - 09:53 AM
SINSULL 20 Nov 04 - 10:54 AM
Stilly River Sage 20 Nov 04 - 11:58 AM
Mary in Kentucky 20 Nov 04 - 07:31 PM
GUEST,LynnT 21 Nov 04 - 07:05 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: MMario
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 01:03 PM

probably depends on family traditions - but Oatmeal gingerbread or Border Tart both look like they would compliment a Thansgiving dinner.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 01:55 PM

I've added to my guest list--the neighbors across the street are getting older and she planned to not cook this year. He may have to work, but she at least will come over. She asked what to bring, and frankly, I've been quite curious about the greens she cooks all of the time, so I asked if she would bring a casserole of her collard greens. I'm looking forward to it. This will be a good substitute for the green bean dish that a friend used to bring (it didn't have soup, but it had bacon crumbled in it and probably had about the same calories). Someone used to bring a casserole with asperagus that sounds suspiciously like the green bean casserole described here. I always liked it.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 03:22 PM

"Confessions On Asparagus" -- Anyone ever see the asparagus eating scene in "Beautiful Dreamer"? (It's a film about Walt Whitman.)

I just made a wonderful chicken/asparagus/sage/parmesan soup the other day. We'll have its second incarnation tonight (with added pasta, but I think gnocci next time). Bird and asparagus is a wonderful combination.

My favorite Thanksgiving treat is the turkey tetrazzini that Curmudgeon makes the next day.

Nancy & MMario -- that's the ONLY cranberry relish I can stomach. Actually, I rather like it, but "Mudge can't abide cranberries, so it's been years since I've had it. (Let's see, Tom and I have been married 22 years . . .)

So, this is a warning Sinsull (Jeri already knows) -- there will be no cranberry stuff at the Thanksgiving feast at Perdurabo this year. At least not prepared by Himself in the Pilgrim hat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 03:28 PM

Stilly, I don't think you make casseroles with greens...at least never heard of it.

I just picked turnip greens yesterday and stunk up the house cooking a big pot with lots of country ham and one red pepper...served with cornbread, of course.

Thanks for the ideas MMario.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 03:42 PM

Yes, the traditional way to make green bean casserole (and the way it was taught in my 7th grade Home Ick class) is with french cut green beans. It's better with frozen rather than canned, though. If you HAVE to use canned vegetables of any kind, thoroughly rinse them first. Not only gets rid of a lot of the sodium but they taste a heck of a lot better.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Dani
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 03:59 PM

Lovely, Mmario, but what the HELL is TREACLE? Can I use blackstrap molasses instead, this being NC?

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 05:41 PM

Stilly- I've had deep fried turkey several times. It takes about an hour, depending on the size bird (about 3 min. a lb.). I've had them where spices have been injected, or you can dry spice it. Turkey is moist and very good. Found a site for you to check out-Clicky


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 06:13 PM

I should have said "a casserole dish" meaning the container, something with a lid that can be reheated before the meal, not that the greens would be part of a casserole.

RR - Thanks for the link to turkey frying. Considering the investment in specialized equipment and oil, it isn't anything I'll be taking up. (Read to the bottom where it describes how often you can use oil and when to determine that it is too rancid to use again. Ugg.)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Terry Allan Hall
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 06:47 PM

Here's a VERY simple "ice-box pie" that has been a favorite around the holidays"

Eggnog Pie

Take two 6-oz boxes of instant vanilla pudding, add 2 cups of eggnog and beat for 1 minute, until smooth. Pour into a pie shell and refrigerate overnight.

That's it!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: DougR
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 07:22 PM

Mary: you could always serve your friend Haggis for Thanksgiving. I tasted my first (and last) in Scotland in September.

SRS: you are a Texian and have never had green bean casserole? Amazing. :>)

Mary: I love country ham. Today I had the fortutude to pass on buying one though. I tried it a year or so and I was the only one who would eat it. I had country ham to use for seasoning beans for a whole year. Lots of trouble to cook too.

My wife cooks a wonderful asparagus casserole (you can substitute broccoli if you prefer). I'll post it if anyone is interested.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Nov 04 - 11:03 PM

No, DougR, I am NOT a Texan! I am a Washingtonian who is marooned in the state of Texas for the time being. I don't do black-eyed peas, either. Couldn't care less, though it's a big deal down here.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: dianavan
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 12:30 AM

Nobody has mentioned that awful jello salad. Actually there are usually at least two. 1. Orange jello with pineapple and carrots 2. Lime jello with cottage cheese

Haven't had any of that in about 30 years but I sure remember it from my childhood. The green stuff was disgusting. Maybe it was supposed to be a treat for the kids.

Never heard of green bean casserole, though. Canned, fried onions? That is totally absurd. How hard is it to fry an onion? I cook fresh green beans and toss them with butter and toasted almonds. Yum!

I do like black-eyed peas but not for Thanksgiving.

Oh - these are supposed to be favorites!

My favorite is giblet dressing with lots of gravy. Also love those candied sweet potatoes (I use honey)and don't forget the homemade pumpkin pie (thats another thread).

d


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 12:56 AM

I really haven't gotten it yet...........deep fried turkey.

I mean no shit here......We have this big hullaballoo about turkey being leaner and more healthful and then we throw the fucker into boiling fat????? Can someone explain this?

It just goes back to the American predilection for deep frying everything. When you're at the fair and eating deep fried ice cream and pickles you know we are a screwed up bunch!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 02:13 AM

Deep Fried Turkey

I keep getting images of Homer Simpson acquiring the Army Surplus Deep Fryer capable of zapping Battalion Size numbers of Portions, and complaining that it he wanted it to cook faster....


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: dianavan
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 03:20 AM

How could the inside temperature possibly get high enough to kill the salmonella if you deep fry it. This has got to be a joke.

d


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: MMario
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 09:55 AM

dani - yes. Use molasses for treacle - unless you have a treacle well.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: MMario
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 10:03 AM

dianavan - you don't fry it stuffed. the oil goes into the cavity as well as around the outside. - there really isn't any problem getting the temperature up to correct numbers to make it safe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 10:52 AM

And you can't deep fry anything larger than 15 pounds, according to the link above. That at least makes sense. But I agree with Spaw, deep frying something that would ordinarily be fairly good for you is a cultural affectation that fits the category of "I deep fry it because I can."

My shopping is complete, with the exception of fresh mushrooms I'll pick up the day before to go in the stuffing. I asked the kids this morning to take their dibs on what they're going to help with. My son chose rolls, so it looks like Moonglow gets to work on the stuffing. Not that it gets stuffed into the bird, it gets baked on the side, so she won't have to get up at the crack of dawn like I will to start the bird.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: MMario
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 10:57 AM

we use an onion and herb stuffing - no eggs, no meat, and still use the now-discouraged "slow cook" in the oven overnight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: GUEST,bbc at work
Date: 19 Nov 04 - 11:25 AM

Doug,

I'd like to see the recipe for that asparagus casserole. I have a great, easy, healthy cranberry-grape salad recipe, but I need to post from home to get the proportions right.

bbc


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: bbc
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 08:57 AM

Here's the cranberry recipe:

1 pound raw cranberries, ground
1 pound seedless grapes, cut in half (green ones look pretty)
10 ounces plain or vanilla yogurt
Sugar to taste--1/4-1/2 cup

Mix all ingredients & refrigerate.

My kids--picky eaters--have always loved this!

bbc


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 09:53 AM

Creamed onions is my favorite t-day dish. Try adding curry to taste (it gets stronger as it cooks a bit). About 30 minutes after eating, retire to separate rooms for a while.

dw


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 10:54 AM

GUEST - you are welcome to come for Thanksgiving dinner at my house and you won't have to go to a separate room. A bit of curry sounds wonderful.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 11:58 AM

Just be sure the carbon monoxide/methane detector has fresh batteries.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Mary in Kentucky
Date: 20 Nov 04 - 07:31 PM

DougR, I googled haggis - now that is d*i*s*g*u*s*t*i*n*g! Maybe I could just serve chitlins.

We can buy a small package of country ham pieces to use just for seasoning things.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: GUEST,LynnT
Date: 21 Nov 04 - 07:05 PM

About the cider vinegar in the devilled eggs -- almost enough to taste; it mostly cuts the richness. Can't give you exact amounts since I don't measure; I come from the "hurl in a goodly handful" school of cookery.

Try stirring about half a cup of diced gruyere cheese into the mix when you make the traditional green bean casserole. Adds another dimension of flavor -- plus another assault on your arteries! This also works beautifully with fresh asparagus cut into chunks -- a variant on a 15th-century recipe for "savoury toasted cheese". And those Durkee onions are french-fried after being dipped in a batter, something you CAN do yourself but somehow more traditional (midwestern?) out of the can. The batter adds something to the finished dish toasted breadcrumbs + regular browned onions can't match.

(Did you know that macaroni and cheese is medieval? I have a 13-century English recipe for "lozenges" which is dough rolled thin and cut into diamond shapes, boiled, then layered with white cheese and a bit of nutmeg. White lasagna anyone? I also found an early reference to elbow macaroni or quill pasta, from 15th-century Italy -- it talks about taking dough about the thickness of a straw and rolling it around an iron rod the thickness of a cord. This is then dried, and the book says it keeps about three years this way.)

I also make an easy apple pie with cranberries -- stir a can of whole-berry cranberry sauce (cut into dice) plus some cinnamon into about four Granny Smith or York apples peeled and cut into thin slices. Add a cup of vanilla yoghurt if you like, and/or an handful of broken pecans. Pour this into a crust and bake until bubbly.

MY SO made another traditional dish today for lunch -- oyster stew.   He is from Hadley Mass and makes his very plain -- oysters, butter, cream and oyster crackers with a bit of salt and pepper, that's it. Me being from upstate New York, mine is fussier -- onions browned with bacon, shredded carrot, and celery, cream, oysters, and a bit of sherry. Almost New England chowder.

Getting hungry?

LynnT


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Pogo
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 12:54 AM

mmmmmm...Thankgiving....*drools*

Oh, don't be bashin' my deep-fried turkey now!!! ;o) Done properly it is so nice and tender...we have a cousin who shoots it up with cajun seasoning...yes I am aware it ain't healthy but I figure I can cut loose a bit at Thanksgiving after all. Otherwise...soak it overnight in a solution of salt water, wrap it up nice and tight in foil and bake...doesn't make the white meat dry out so badly

There's also squash casserole, sweet potatoes, my grandma's stuffing recipe...mashed potatoes occasionally (trying putting in a can of evaporated milk with them that's the way I like 'em) Hmmm...also butter beans, collards, cornbread (mixing in a dollop or two of sour cream and creamed corn is a nice variation) spiral ham, biscuits and rice...that's pretty much standard fare.

My grandmother fooled us all one year with a pie that we swore up and down had to be crabapple pie or something similar. I mean...it tasted almost like apple pie, so very good....turned out it was ZUCHINNI of all things! Red Velvet cake remains my favorite...that and a cherry pie made with cream cheese filling.

Only a few more days...


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 01:46 AM

Red velvet cake--that's one that I've tried a few times, a friend from upstate New York makes it as a special treat, but I can't get over the amount of red food coloring that goes into it.

Do you have a recipe for your squash casserole that you can post here? That sounds like a nice variation from the usual starchy Thanksgiving fare. My neighbor is coming over with her greens, and I expect I'll be collecting a recipe from her, also. She has adapted one of her greens recipes for Swiss chard that I take to her during the summer. (I usually just steam it and put vinegar over it, or cut it up small and use in in custard like a ham and cheese quiche, or as a green in vegetable soup).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: dianavan
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 02:39 AM

SRS - Do you eat meat? If so, try this:

Cut your swiss chard or any greens (collards work best)

Fry some cut up bacon and onions in butter.

Remove the bacon and onions and add the greens and a little water.

Cover and steam.

Drain and top with crumbled bacon and onions.

Yummy! Turns daily greens into a real tasty treat.

d


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: emjay
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 02:48 AM

This has to be the best collection of Thanksgiving recipes I've seen. I read through this time, I'm going to have to put some paper in the printer, though ,so I can take the recipes out to the kitchen and try some.
I thought I was the only one who still put apple in cranberry relish!
And after reading the comments, you are right. I will go back to making the relish in the grinder rather than the food processor. The color is better, and the flavors meld faster.
A daughter-in-law taught us to add finely chopped onion and cream cheese to the mashed potatoes. My brother brings scalloped tomatoes, canned, crushed tomatoes, with bread crumbs, butter, mushrooms. It may not sound good, but it is wonderful!
Creamed onions aren't bad, but once a year is enough. I add a little freshly grated nutmeg.
Asparagus is good stir-fried with sweet red pepper and fresh ginger--really good! And pretty as well.
And after a break, we like to go back for pie. We will have pumpkin, mince, chocolate silk, and whatever else someone feels like making. Maybe rhubarb, raspberry, apple, pecan, cherry, who knows?
Lots of people, mostly family, all ages. We rent a church conference center, and people start coming Wednesday night, the last leave after a big breakfast and cleanup on Friday.
And that breakfast is always special, too. First there's pot after pot of coffee, then, depending on who is doing breakfast, there might be corned beef hash,or breakfast burritos, or moose and caribou steaks. It will be good, no matter what. And there will be turkey and Homemade rolls left from dinner as well as a lot of pie.
Probably no green bean casserole this year, the Texan isn't coming.
And we'll talk, and talk, and talk, and play games, and there might be some singing.
I can hardly wait!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 02:05 PM

Dianavan, that sounds much like the way my neighbor described cooking greens. Thanks for the directions.

They talked about how explosively dangerous those turkey fryers can be on Good Morning America today. Scary stuff!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: saulgoldie
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 05:41 PM

Mama Stamberg's cranberry relish...NOT! But if you GOTTA try it, here it is:


Mama Stamberg's Cranberry Relish

2 cups whole raw cranberries, washed

1 small onion

3/4 cup sour cream

1/2 cup sugar

2 tablespoons horseradish from a jar ("red is a bit milder than white")

Grind the raw berries and onion together. ("I use an old-fashioned meat grinder," says Stamberg. "I'm sure there's a setting on the food processor that will give you a chunky grind -- not a puree.")

Add everything else and mix.

Put in a plastic container and freeze.

Early Thanksgiving morning, move it from freezer to refrigerator compartment to thaw. ("It should still have some little icy slivers left.")

The relish will be thick, creamy, and shocking pink. ("OK, Pepto Bismol pink. It has a tangy taste that cuts through and perks up the turkey and gravy. It's also good on next-day turkey sandwiches, and with roast beef.")

Makes 1 1/2 pints.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 06:15 PM

I thought of that recipe when I started this thread. I can hear her voice as I read the recipe. Thanks!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Rustic Rebel
Date: 22 Nov 04 - 11:23 PM

This dessert I have had one time and it's very good. I'm planning on making it for Christmas.-

Pumkin trifle recipe

1 pkg (14 1/2 oz.) Gingerbread cake mix
1 1/4 c. water
1 egg
4 cups cold fat-free milk
4 pkgs. (1 oz each)sugar free butterscotch pudding mix
1 can (15 oz) solid pack pumkin
1 t. cinnamon
1/4 t. each ginger, nutmeg, & allspice
1 carton (12 oz) whipped topping (real stuff)

In a mixing bowl, combine the cake mix, water and egg; mix well. Pour into an ungreased 8 in. square baking pan. Bake at 350 degrees for 35-40 minutes or until a toothpick inserterd near the center comes out clean. Cool for 10 minutes before removing from pan onto a wire rack. When competely cooled, crumble the cake. Set aside 1/4 cup crumbs for garnish.
In a bowl, whisk milk and pudding mixes for 2 minutes or until slightly thickened. Let stand for 2 minutes, or until soft set. Stir in pumkin and spices; mix well. In a trifle bowl or 3 1/2 qt. glass serving bowl, layer 1/4 of the cake crumbs, 1/2 of the pumkin mixture, 1/4 of the cake crumbs, and 1/2 of the whipped topping. Repeat layers. Garnish with reserved crumbs. Serve immediately or refrigerate.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 11:42 AM

I've finished toasting the day-old (homemade) bread for use in stuffing. The turkey is sitting in a bath of cold water to finish thawing today for use bright and early tomorrow morning. The kitchen counter is going to be cleared of all non-cooking materials to make way for the production line tomorrow.

At work yesterday several of us were discussing the meals we will be cooking. My legs and hips began to ache just at the thought of all of that cooking. It is a real workout, and they agreed, by the time the cook is finished and putting it on the table, she's pretty tired and not always very hungry. Not from nibbling, but simply from such prolonged exposure. Get a good night's sleep before your workout tomorrow!

Rustic, that sounds like a fabulous recipe--I have a recipe something along those same lines that uses various free-standing products like chocolate cake mix and caramels and chocolate chips to create the richest, most incredible brownies I've ever eaten. It's good to put on a cookie platter for the holidays.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 08:54 AM

Anybody got a recipee for Panty Pudding?


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: jaze
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 09:44 AM

Spaw, I tried that asparagus casserole variation over the weekend. Great idea!


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 26 Nov 04 - 12:19 AM

I'm exhausted. First time on the computer all day, and only to do a quick check to see that the system all works. (In addition to preparing for the holiday I've been rearranging furniture around the house. I redid part of my office last night.)

Turkey came out a bit dry--it cooked faster than my timer alloted, and I was so busy I didn't check it early enough. Everything else came out great. I do a sweet potato recipe that comes from my old Fanny Farmer cookbook (called Mashed Sweet Potatoes de Luxe), and it is so fast, but tastes great. Uses the boiled then mashed sweet potatoes, some orange juice, what it calls "a few grains" but I do more like a big "dash" of nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon, a half-cup or so of shopped pecans, and little marshmallows on top, baked till they're brown. Since the marshmallows are really not much sugar, (they melt down to almost nothing) there is very little extra sugar in this dish. I like it much better than the "candied" variety of sweet potatoes or yams.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Nov 21 - 10:47 AM

I was poking around looking for a Thanksgiving thread and found these old recipes. (And I never make that aspic - I've decided that it's a waste of perfectly good tomato juice.)

It's a poignant pleasure to read messages from departed friends.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Nov 21 - 09:18 AM

Channeling catspaw, the ideal Thanksgiving day begins with several shots of 101 peppermint Scnapps or vodka and sleep till noon when some Goldschlager cinnamon makes a nice wake me up and at dinner a half dozen beers to wash down dessert and fall sound asleep. Later blame the turkey for making you sleepy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Thompson
Date: 15 Nov 21 - 04:56 PM

If people want a green bean casserole with a bit of zing to it, there's an absolutely delicious version called Loubieh Bi Zeit that comes from (I think) Lebanon. You wouldn't think cooking fresh green beans for a long time would taste nice, but they're sweet and very tasty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 15 Nov 21 - 06:02 PM

The green beans in Marcella's minestrone are cooked for three hours...


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 15 Nov 21 - 09:02 PM

I have a turkey in my freezer, though I was looking at some today to see how much they run. So far they're affordable. I confess that I'm hoarding a bit of pork, it seems to be going up in price. I bought some extra packs of bacon and a couple of chubs of one of my favorite sausage brands. I'm not a fan of stuffing, but if I make it I use crumbled sausage in it.

We will be trying to get together under one roof this year (last year I baked and handed out covered plates at the door to people who would normally have come in and sat at the table). I say trying because my daughter who lives in the area is due for surgery and may not be able to travel here like usual (instead keeping the leg up at her home). In which case, will make a couple of my favorite dishes and take them to wherever she is sitting with the foot elevated. We haven't reached the point yet where the next generation takes over the holiday prep, but we do try to be flexible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Nov 21 - 09:45 AM

I am planning on eating carbs this Thanksgiving. I shall have a biscuit and some of the sour-cream-apple pie with cookie crust and streusel topping I make, and some of the cherry pie with the hidden marzipan layer my eldest sister makes. None of the pecan pie, probably. Definitely no pumpkin pie.
Oh, other food? Brussels sprouts, peas and mushrooms. Salad. Skipping turkey (boring), stuffing (ditto), and all the potatoes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: leeneia
Date: 18 Nov 21 - 11:41 AM

Thanksgiving favorite? Pumpkin pie made using the Joy of Cooking's recipe. You cook the filling in a double boiler, bake the empty crust in the oven, fill the crust just before eating. The filling is delicious.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Nov 21 - 11:23 AM

Turns out we are having chicken, and a different sister is making the cherry marzy pie. Pourvu que ça marche!

Anybody want my apple pie recipe?


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Nov 21 - 12:58 PM

I always enjoy seeing people's apple pie recipes.

I like apple pie, but tend most often to make cobbler because while I make a good pie crust for a pie, it takes a lot more work than the biscuit topper for the cobbler.

I was reading a friend's remarks about the pecans falling in his yard (he's collecting and shelling to make a pecan pie.) A friend offered a remark on his Instagram account about a Kentucky Derby pie. I've never heard of that, but my friend thinks it sounds good. I tend to stick to pecans in things like the mashed sweet potatoes (with orange juice and pie seasonings) and the pumpkin bread, banana bread, etc. And on cookies. Pecan pie is a bridge too far for me as far as the huge amount of sugar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Mrrzy
Date: 20 Nov 21 - 01:15 PM

Mrrzy's take on Ron's apple pie:

(C is cup, t is teaspoon, T is tablespoon)

Preheat oven to 450F

Crumb crust:
1 1/2 C cookie crumbs (best are sandies)
1/3 C melted butter
2-4 T sugar
Cinnamon
(You can make a regular crust, instead.)

Mix, press into bottom of pie dish, not up sides

Filling (in parens are the amounts calibrated for making a 9x13 pan's worth):

6-9 apples, original recipe says MacIntosh but I prefer granny smith (10)
1 2/3 C sour cream (2 1/2)
1 egg (2)
1 C sugar (I prefer brown) (1 1/2)
1/2 t salt (3/4)
2 T vanilla (3)
1/3 C flour (1/2)

Mix all, pile high in pie dish. Save extras, if any. Makes great pudding or something.

Bake 10 mn at 450F, reduce heat
Bake another 35 mn at 350F
Take pie out, stir filling without disturbing crust, add topping, bake another 15mn. Or longer: keep an eye on the topping.

Topping (here I use the larger amounts for 9x13 pan but in parens are the original measures. I likes me that topping!):

1/2 C brown sugar (1/3)
1/2 C sugar (1/3)
3/4 C flour (1/2)
1 1/2 T cinnamon (1)
Generous pinch salt (regular pinch)
4 1/2 T butter (3 T)

Mix all. Put on top of pie, not all the way to the edges, after stirring.

I am unclear on whether that butter should be melted, but I think just softened.

Make the day before. This pie is best room temp. Rich, rich, rich.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Nov 21 - 06:21 PM

Here's the Kentucky Derby pie. Sounds super rich.


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Subject: RE: BS: Thanksgiving dinner recipe favorites
From: Thompson
Date: 21 Nov 21 - 06:17 AM

What are sandies?


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