BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk

Subject: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 12:21 AM

Hey, what the heck but the Wes Ginny Slide Rule got into my 'shine and this???

I'm thinkin', "How could this be?" and then me the Wes Ginny an' I figgured it out at the very same second (yeah, all 3 of us...): There's only one person capable of pulling of someone like Martin and it is, ahhhh, that tricky guy up north... And I ain't talkin' Santa here...

Yer surrounded...

Come on out with yer hands up and no one will get hurt....

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 12:30 AM

Wouldn't that be somethin'? Two of my friends being the same person? Probably a wingdinger of a movie script in there. The lead would have to be done by Shatner, of course. With a Chicago accent.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 12:55 AM

That would be truly astounding. Even I wouldn't believe it. Look, Martin is unusual, granted, but he's not quite unusual enough to be one of my fictional characters. At least I don't think so.

Man, Bobert, you have got me worried, though. I am going to have to put a spycam on my computer in the off-hours and make sure there's no truth in this idea you've come up with.

I used to be afraid that maybe I was Spaw! You can imagine how uneasy I became at the thought. What made me wonder was, the more I posted...as time went by...the less he did. It was very unsettling.

I think Martin really is the genuine article, and that he lives in Chicago, like he says he does.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 12:57 AM

Well, there might be some truth to it, IMO. Little Hawk--many moons ago--said that Chicago hotdogs were great, thus avoiding saying that Montreal steamies were better. Bobert, ya got me wondering now.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:00 AM

Bobert is really secretly DougR. Or the other way around. Whichever.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:02 AM

Bad news, Bobert. Neither Martin nor Little Hawk are real. They're both khandu.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:03 AM

And khandu is really Amos...

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:05 AM

So who's Bee-dubya-ell?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:09 AM

Bee-dubya-ell is really Tweed.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:13 AM

Now I s'pose yer gonna say that Tweed's Rapaire, right?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: hesperis
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:45 AM

Of course Tweed is Rapaire!

(I'm not popular enough to be accused of being anybody! Haha!)

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Amos
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 01:46 AM

No, I am Rapaire. Rapaire's Tweed. But more often.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Boab
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 02:57 AM

I think you lot are "holding the cat's arse to the sun"--a couthie Scots saying ----

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 03:24 AM

I've got this sneaking feeling that Doug Chadwick is also Doug Chadwick

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Teresa
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 03:30 AM

Oh, the horrors!

Kandu-is-aslo-Tweed-is-aslo-Rapaire-is-aslo-Little Hawkis-aslo-Brucie-is-aslo-bee-dubya-ell-is-aslo-Martin-is-aslo-jOhn?

I gotta go think about this for awhile. I gotta get a life! :D

Teresa

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 03:56 AM

I saw this thread title, and thought, what was wrong with Mudcat Wedding, part 17, or howerver many we're up to by now
Now that would be scary...

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: skipy
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 04:56 AM

Good God! No wonder Mingulay knows so much about me, I must be him!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Davetnova
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 05:26 AM

So theres only one folkie on that side of the Atlantic. Is your namereally Sybil?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: gnu
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 06:20 AM

I'm glad I joined as "gnu" so I don't have to log in as "Wildebeast" when I'm peeved. Too much work. As for the hypothesis that MG=LH, I have researched each of their posts based on time of submission and never have the two posted at the exact same time. Therefore, maybe, maybe not. Further in-depth research and analyses needs to be done. Or, we could just ask LH for a "yes or no" answer.... LH cannot lie... he's a Canuck... or is he? If he says "no", he might be MG. Is it too early to start drinking?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Leadfingers
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 06:45 AM

What is worse is that some one has started a rumour that I am Leadfingers !!

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: MaineDog
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 10:33 AM

Does anyone remember "Ender's Game"? His siblings take over the universe by pretending to argue with each other on line ---
MD

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:04 AM

Is MD really a MD?

And IS Martin Gibson really Little Hawk?

And am I really Teresa who is really Dianavan who is really
Kaleea?

I'll never tell.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:05 AM

There is really only One of us here. Wow. Cosmic, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: 42
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:07 AM

cosmic? Cowboys!
j

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:10 AM

Some have accused me of being 9.

In regards to LH liking Chicago hotdogs ... well, Chciago 58 weiners are available in Ontario, these deli delights can actually match a Montreal steamie any time .... so we could give him the benefit on the doubt on that issue.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:13 AM

(Hehehehe...little do they know, they're all figments of my twisted little imagination....hehehe...yesh, my precious....ehehhe ehehe hehehe....e   he   eh?)

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:22 AM

You have a lot to answer for, don't you?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Professor Watson
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:23 AM

You are pretty good, Bobert, but not quite accurate. But since you have noted striking dissimilar writing techniques in their postings, the difference of which seems to be contrived and they are actually one and the same, I will now expose this chicanery through the excellent powers of observation bestowed upon me by my mentor, Holmes.

They are one and the same - but the true identity is of the poster is:

WILLIAM SHATNER!

You're welcome.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Blissfully Ignorant
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:27 AM

I'm answering for bugger all. I just created....the rest was up to you. Free will, and all that...:0)

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:37 AM

Whoa. Scary. Big Bill is a genius. I believe he's capable of that and more.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 12:43 PM

I was Guest, except when I'm Guest.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Daws Butler
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 02:34 PM

I was really Auggie.


Except when I was Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Hound, Quickdraw McGraw, Snagglepuss, Snooper, Blabber,Wally Gator, Elroy Jetson, Peter Potamus, Capn Crunch or Mr. Cogsworth.


I don't think I was ever Little Hawk tho, and I'm sure I wasn't MG.
Ergo, they must be one in the same.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: skipy
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 02:45 PM

NO! I am the true Guest!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 03:24 PM

That's a lie! I AM SPARTACUS!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 05:19 PM

And I AM ASPARAGUS!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: gnu
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 05:43 PM

OKAY THEN. Nobody with any balls, eh? I'll step up. Here goes. THE moment of truth.

Little Hawk... are you, have you ever been, will you ever be, Martin Gibson ?

Of course, you don't have to answer that question based on the grounds of self-incrimination. Nor does anyone (at least, me) really care. MG is MG... a mosquito in the tent of life. Really, what would a camping trip be without a few bugs?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 06:00 PM

Please allow me to come forward. I cannot tell a lie. Well, I can, but I won't. So there ya go.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 06:36 PM

Okay. Ahem! Placing hand on William Shatner's autobiography, "Get A Life!" and other hand on heart...

I am not, never have been, and never shall be Martin Gibson.

Sworn this day on the Mucat Cafe.

- Little Hawk

Witnessed by...

- Chongo Chimp

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 06:51 PM

Ok OK if people here really did know that I really am Bill Shatner then it would always be about me instead of you, it would be about celebrity instead of hobbies and music. Simply put , it would spoil it for me.

As for MG I too took on a reactionary personna on various website forums which did in fact energize the opposite point of view, but I outgrew the ruse several years ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST,William Shatner
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 07:11 PM

I can attest to the fact that Little Hawk is not me. Nor is Donuel. Little Hawk is merely a man who appreciates the finer points of the performing arts. Donuel is a man in the grip of some rare dementia. I only drop in occasionally to this forum, because I want to keep my audience hungry for more. Always remember this. Overexposure can kill any career eventually. Look what happened to Bruce Springsteen. Now if he had listened to me and collaborated with me on an album, I could have revitalized his career in the 90's, but nooo...he thought he knew better. Well, now he's a hasbeen, whereas I am a household word. I turn down job offers constantly. I did a version of "Candy's Room" that took the song to a whole new level. They begged me to release it. I didn't. Not yet. Keep your fingers crossed...

- William Shatner

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Teresa
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 07:29 PM

Ha!

Ok, I did read Ender's Game, and loved it.

Also, there's a famous story of science fiction fanzine fandom. Before the Internet, when SF fans communicated via letter columns and then through fanzines, there was one Carl Brandon. turns out a number of people shared this persona. I bet you could google it and find out more about it. :)

teresa

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 07:47 PM

I am really Gully Foyle, Rumplestiltskin and Alan Turing.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 08:16 PM

Well, gol danged... Now I'm receiving PM's from folks who have the good on LH... Yeah, like evidence... No, I ain't gonna name no names here 'cause, hey, they might be LH as well and I don't want him beating the rap with no loopholes about self incrimination...

So, LH, was that denial yer final amswer?

And, further more, if it ain't, how come MG ain't been sniffin' 'round this thread??? Mudcat got yer tongue?

I'll tell ya what, you might fool me, but if yer gonna fool the Wes Ginny Slide Rule yer gonna have to set yer alarm clock much eariler and pack two lunches....

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 08:23 PM

Well if that's true, then this must be a picture of Martin Gibson (aka: Willima Shatner) playing the accordion...

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 08:40 PM

Yup, that's me. And it's not Martin. I have it on good authority that Martin is a weedy little guy, about 5'5", with a potbelly and a small mustache. And he can't play the accordion at all.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 08:41 PM

Oh, what a web we weave.....

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 08:42 PM

Oh, be quiet, Doug...

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 08:49 PM

hahhaha

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST,snowman
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 09:02 PM

His pulling of someone in a different country would be a long stretch and he must take better care of his mittens.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: CarolC
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 09:11 PM

LH, I think you should go meet him in Chicago and get someone there to take your picture together.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 09:22 PM

What Carol said, Martin... I mean, LH....

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 09:22 PM

Yeah. I've always kind of had a hankering to meet Martin. I figure he would be a good guide to the sights of Chicago too.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 09:30 PM

Actually, Doug, I never took your shtick as the hillbilly Bobert seriously. No one would spell that badly and say such crazy things. It was obviously a fictional character. What I can't figure out, though, is why you would deliberately harass yourself in that fashion and make your own political stance look like a crock by so doing. Beats me! Are you a masochist, Doug?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 10:27 PM

Well, Little Martin, I been wonderin' about the same thing??? Yea know this Bobert/DougtR is starting to wear me out... But, hey, I say this stuff in the TV... Got lots o' tree roots in it and, believe it or not, if ya' buy 2 months worth of these tree root pills then ya get the 3rd month fir free... so I called the 800 nummber 1-800-EATROOTS (No, this asin't about the Martin side o' you, LH, my pal, my buddy but the polymorphorse guilt side but it's okay if ya' don't wanta talk about this stuff... Like I sure as heck don't...)... Okay, likewhat was I sayin'???

Nevermind, Martin Hawk, sorry to disturb ya'.....

Oh yeah, I remember what I was gonna say.... Ahhhh, now th9is may come a big ol' surprise but when I left this mornin' I left the Wes Ginny Slide Rule4 to ponder this most ineresting situation and the Wes Ginny Slide Rules has some good new and some bad news...

Ahhhhh, which do you want first?

Okay, I like gettin' the bad news outta the way so here goes: NONE of you actually exist. Seems LH is all of us... Yup, got the report right here from, BI, Inc. (Bubba, Investigator, INC....)... Yup, we are all nuthin' more than LH's imagination... Whadayathinkboutthat?

Well, I had that first reaction my ownseff but then, and here come the good news, ain't we all gonna get a little more liesure time from this discovery???

I sure plan to...

Bober

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: dianavan
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 10:37 PM

Neither one of em are good Christians which means that they both must worship the devil. I say burn em both and let God decide.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:16 PM

Oh geeze, whe ya jus' thought you hud' went left???....

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:40 PM

Pass it over here, will ya?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Feb 05 - 11:57 PM

I have just one thing to say to you, Bobert/DougR.

SIMIOWERINEIR!

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:15 AM

The problem with your theory, Little Hawk, is that I have it on good authority that far from DougR being Bobert, it is t'other way about. And frankly, after Bobert posts as his alter ego, he is exhausted. I fear the worst.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Me Me Me (& friends)
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 05:19 AM

This thread is about egomania, isn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:02 AM

Guest Me Me ME {& friends]

You said,
"This thread is about egomania, isn't it?"

My response is 'No'

But if you don't get it-take the time to read the threads especially the BS threads and maybe you see the differences between the posters and maybe then you'll get the subtle and not so subtle digs that are being made and also maybe then you'll also recognizze and appeciate the creative banter between friends..

Actually, I'm finding this thread hilarious-except when people mess too pointedly with poor Martin Gibson..

I feel compelled to say-Leave MG alone.
So he has issues..Who doesn't??

and besides I could be Martin Gibson or
I could be Little Hawk
or he could be me or
I could be Bobert
or Brucie
or Jerry Rasmussen
or WYSIWYG
or Freda
or I could be some other made up character.

What you see here may not be what you get. Or maybe it is..

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Tweed
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:26 AM

Well THANK YOU GUEST,Meme(+freinds)! I habv been puzzling obver theis thing for several read throughs and you habv cleared up the mysetry.

Oblisvily the fear obv eggs is a problem in many arenas and it's good to see a thread devoted to it. I wabz thrown off a bit by the Martin Trutone=Lerdle Harg thread title but GUEST meMe habv brought it home.
The true thread line here, az I am understanding it, is thet Little Hawrg has a phlobiam of Martin stealing his eggs. I reckon that hawrk eggs are about as good az chicken eaggs, but harder to find these days.

I generally just go down to the Publix and get a dozen obv the regular old white eggs, {which I'm told are from chickens, but who knows for sure what they come from....} Posonby thar are no Publix stores in Chicago, but I am sure thet there may be simbilar venus whar Martin can get hold obv some eggs obther than our pore Hawrgue's. He iz a smallish bird and I would expect that egg laying for him would be a panfull and summat unpheasant taks!

All cleared up now, thank you GUEEST mEME.

Yours,
Tweed

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:59 AM

Well, affer readin' whad the Tweezer has said here I am even more convinced of the LH=MG theory/conspiracy and even more convinced that Tweezer=Tweezer... No two people could spell that bad...

(Hmmmmm? Wait a second, Bobert. If Twwezer=Tweezer and this here algebra book is correct then, hmmmmmm, ler's see here.... Then the above post was not write my Tweezer but 1/2 a Tweezer...)

Yo, Tweezer... Ahhh, are ya sittin' down? I got so bad news....

Dr. Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 10:23 AM

I have suspected for some time that Martin Gibson is Stilly River Sage. Or Dianavan. You never know.

What's got me puzzled is, why has Martin not posted yet to this thread? Where is he? It's very strange.

Bobert, I feel sorry for you having to engage in this charade and posing as DougR all the time. It must be utterly exhausting coming up with all those convoluted arguments to prove how great George Bush and Condi Rice are. I frankly don't know how you can stand the strain. My suggestion is, give it up! Instead, masquerade as a cross-dressing dentist from Boise who is a fanatical William Shatner fan. That will be more fun and also much more believable. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 10:53 AM

MainDog:
I must have missed that in "Ender's Game". Or possibly you are referring to actions which took place in one of the sequals, "Speaker for the Dead" & "Xenocide", or more recently "Ender's Shadow"
Without re-reading, I think you'll find it was "Speaker for the Dead"

CHEERS

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 11:27 AM

Nigel,

It was Ender's Game. That was one of the main sub-plots of the book.
Ender's older brother and older sister made up these two characters who publicly debate online with each other. The older brother was actually the evilier master mind, but he convinced the sister to take on this far more negative persona while his public role appeared to be more reasonable.

Over time, each of these two made up personas gathered alot of followers to their respective sides as they gained power and influenced the minds of all who read them -

Kind of like Martin Gibson and Little Hawk...

But in Ender's Game the two siblings WERE separate beings.
Maybe MG and LH are two separate people.

But how do we know that we really know what they believe?

There might have done a belief switcheroo on us for reasons that only they know.

Maybe this is more like Ender's Game then I thought.

I'm really scared now.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 11:43 AM

Oh, fer heaven's sake! Look, Azizi, why not just PM CarolC and ASK her what I'm like. She knows me well, and she has pictures of me. She has visited me here in Orillia, Ontario, where I live.

Bobert, ya pest, see what you've done here by opening this can of worms?

I have no idea who Martin Gibson is, but I assume he does in fact live in Chicago. He's probably getting a good laugh by totally staying off this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 12:00 PM

Look, I believe Little Hawk is Little Hawk only and Martin Gibson is well, I dunno. Let's lay this one to rest.

But one issue that is really concerning me and I'm gonna raise it here in this thread, is, can we never, ever mention William Shatner again, please. The guy is repulsive, and the mention of his name is enough to make one cringe. One should not delineate his name here at the Mudcat again.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 12:38 PM

Well, if we're going to be getting serious, based on what I know about Little Hawk, I would have to say that Martin Gibson is definitely not a character made up by LH.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 12:46 PM

Having said that though, LH, I think Azizi was being ironic in her 20 Feb 05 - 11:27 AM post, and doing it subtly, I might add. Maybe she's becoming Canadian, eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:18 PM

Little Hawk,

Carol C is right. Gotcha!

Carol C. Becoming a Canadian, hmmn..interesting thought.

Best wishes,
Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:19 PM

I think probably so too, Carol. :-) But I wasn't quite sure. But see the power of propaganda? That title, "Martin Gibson=Little Hawk" stands out there for all to see, and forms a repeating pattern of disinformation in the impressionable minds out there.

It's like saying, "Saddam planned 911" or "Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction" in a headline. You just repeat it often enough, and millions of fools end up believing it.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:31 PM

Hay Lytle Squawk

you shud be able to soo bObert in fedrule cort as a klass ackshion soot.

howeber, bout all you cud git frum im is his Wis jinney Slime Rool and meebe 'is Pee bine.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Tweed
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:33 PM

Whut the hail??....You mean this thread is nothin' to do with eaggs, but that you and Martin Balsam are the same peoples? Where habv I been.........That epxlains ebvertying!!

What a glorimous day for me!! First it wabaz revealed that Camillina is really a man in wimmenz riding closths and now this.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:34 PM

Carol C. Becoming a Canadian, hmmn..interesting thought.

It happens, Azizi. It starts with the little things, like subtle irony, but before you know it, you're addicted to Tim Hortons doughnuts and Creemore Springs beer, and watching Don Cherry on Hockey Night in Canada with your Canadian husband (and getting a little teary-eyed when they play the Canadian national anthem). I know... it happened to me.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:49 PM

Little Hawk,

Let me publicly proclaim to all that I KNOW that not only are you NOT Martin Gibson, but you that you ARE a man who believes in your convictions and is NOT toying with folks for any ulterior motive.

I'm sorry if my attempts of "subtle irony" to quote Carol C, might have given anyone that impression of either you or Martin, who is also a man of his deeply held convictions and likewise is not toying with folks for any ulterior motive.

And Carol C.
You mean there's some good single MEN in Canada?!

WOW!!

Well no one knows what the future may hold. Stranger things have happened...

And, BTW I'm really not afraid.

Best wishes,
Azizi ;0))

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: CarolC
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 01:53 PM

You mean there's some good single MEN in Canada?!

Oh yes... some of the best ones are in Canada (except for my hubby who is now here in the US with me). Plus, as a part of Canada's plan for world domination, phase two, the "fetchin up the womenfolk" part, they're actively recruiting women to marry Canadian men.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Don Firth
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 02:32 PM

Well . . . actually, there is only one person who has been posting to Mudcat all these years. Only one. And he (I? Me? We? Us?) has (have?) one helluva case of multiple personality disorder.

(Lemme see . . . . I was gonna add my name but I'm not sure who I am this time. . . ?)

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 03:09 PM

Uh, Hi all.

Been off the computer extremely busy at work and with music the last few days. Couldn't wait to open this thread when I say it.

OK, I admit it. I'm really The Shambles.





Now that had to get some reaction.

Well, I am not Little Hawk, because Little Hawky and I sometimes PM each other, and I'm not really into talking to myself. And I'm not Canadian and have no idea how to convert litres into gallons. And after last being in Canada a number of years ago, I am still tring to figure out what patisierie (or however you spell it is).

I am true blue Chicago, roots going back here to the late 1880s and I would never, ever want to live anywhere else.

So, I can now tell you that I think Bobert, who lives I believe in Washington DC, is a far left Democratic, likes to drink, is really Ted Kennedy. It's just so obvious.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 04:49 PM

Martin, you're also a good sport!

Just so theres no confusion about what I meant by this post, I mean this as a compliment.

Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 04:53 PM

Ouch!!! Ted Keenedy, Martin? That's about the worst thing you've ever said to me....

And I don't exactly live in D.C. but 70 miles west in the hills of Wes Ginny just south of Harpers Ferry.

And I'm not a Democrat either but a Green...

But when it comes the "likrd to drink" part...

... I'll drink to that.

Cheers & bottoms up (have a field day with that one...)

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Skipy
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 05:19 PM

I'm pink therfore I'm spam!
Skipy

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 05:37 PM

Ha! I am so glad that Martin has finally returned. What a relief. Good to have you back, Martin! I find the idea of Bobert being Ted Kennedy pretty amusing, but not as amusing as if he was DougR. Anyway, glad we got that straightened out.

Chongo agrees with you about Chicago. He loves the place. I have not really seen it yet, except from the air a couple of times coming in and out of O'Hare Airport.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 05:52 PM

I don't know. It's something about that Ted Kennedy constipated look that I envison Bobert's demeanor.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 05:55 PM

Ouch, Part B!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: dianavan
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 07:50 PM

I admit it. I really am Adrienne Clarkson.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:10 PM

Okay, folks, the "TRUE CONESSIONS" light it lit bright so have at it...

Well, in the light of fair play, I'll start: As much as I hate to admit it, ahhhhh, I am the Bobert....

Now, LH, you wanta shed a little guilt here?...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:27 PM

I am Shane, the idiot from Blind River. At least, I'm his ghost writer, anyway. I have also occasionally...very occasionally...posed as William Shatner, but only when the Great Man was too busy to speak for himself. I also posed as a Guest called Crawford Jones when I started the thread "Tiddly Bowl Coming Up In Belgium".

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:30 PM

I wonder how many will admit to being a Guest?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:36 PM

I see nothing wrong with being a Guest as long as it is not done maliciously.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Once Famous
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:41 PM

Right.

But many regulars do pose as Guests maliciously.

I ask how many will admit it.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: dianavan
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 08:56 PM

I was a Guest but only because I dropped my cookie and then, at least, I admitted it.

There are so many Guests on this forum that it gets confusing so just stop it!

My real name is not Dianavan but I always use it when I am chatting.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 11:43 PM

They do it maliciously when they don't have the guts to be malicious under their own identity, Martin, that's when. I do it basically just for humorous purposes. It's fun inventing fictional characters, such as Chongo, etc...and getting stories going.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 11:47 PM

At times one sets a thief to catch a thief.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: thespionage
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 01:15 AM

I would just be afraid if Martin Gibson turned out to be someone by the name of Taylor Fender.

Russ

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 04:09 AM

96

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 04:01 PM

Lesbianage or whatever your name is, I wouldn't lower my name to a Taylor.

Lttle Hawk, you are so right. They are so chicken shit and move from place to place on their belly.

No guts, no glory, I guess.

but mostly, no guts.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST,Chicago chongo
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 04:10 PM

Hey Martin man, you de best.Yo Bro!

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 04:16 PM

MMMMmmmmm the lady doth protest too much?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Once Famous
Date: 21 Feb 05 - 04:33 PM

Guest, do you like M&Ms?

Do you always use the word "doth'?

Why?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:47 AM

I offer this cartoon from Blues Free Press with no comment
Cartoon here:

RtS

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 07:44 PM

Oh, Martin, yeah, you was... da boy!!!...

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Once Famous
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:20 PM

What's that make you, bobert?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 10:15 PM

Da boy observer? No, don't even go there... Observin' an' the other ain't even no where the same, thank you... I'z very happy with my woman, the infamous P-Vine...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 11:54 PM

Ridiculous thread. Completely without merit.

Hawk has proven over the years to have a variety of personas but they are all quite transparent and pale in comparison to the real thing. Hawk himself is an interesting blend of pure logic mixed with wild flights of fantasy and gut level emotion. A closet realist who must refuse and refute that dark side of hinself but cannot sway his inner being to take the final step. Hence he wears contradiction like a habit and in that contradiction we can see the softness and caring of the true humane being which he is.

Martin Gibson simply appears to be yet another asshole much like we can all find deep down........Deep down not within ourselves of course, but certainly within the dickhead standing next to us.

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 08:11 AM

Well, it took 105 posts, Spawzer, but you have finally broke thru to me...

The truth will set ya free, that's fir sure..

Whew!!! Glad to be back...

Ahhhh, BTW, Spawzer. You ain't MG, is you?

Awww, jus' funning...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 12:31 PM

That was an interesting comment, Spaw. Thanks for that. I'm curious what aspects of my character you regard as based on "fantasy".

Really, someone would have to be a total twit to think I was Martin Gibson... (sorry, Bobert, but it's true)

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: M.Ted
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 03:03 PM

I never post as an anonymous GUEST, and I hate it when I have to post as any kind of GUEST, because then I don't get my frequent flyer miles--

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:29 PM

Well, well, well...

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:32 PM

I did NOT start this thread.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:38 PM

Alas I am not Donuel Blagg, although that is what my birth certificate says.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:40 PM

Well, I jus' thought that I'd resurrect this one since there seems to be some consipracy theories on the other MG thread....

But before the Bobert=DougR thread gets resurrected I
z gonna gon on record, before Dougie does, to deny it...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:44 PM

Answering himself within five minutes was almost enough to throw us off the scent. Not.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Mr Happy
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:46 PM

wot's 'consipracy' mean?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:49 PM

Consipracy is the act of carrying Cipro.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:51 PM

He was such a nicer people back then.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:38 PM

Roo much cipro bad fir ya.... Everything in modolation... That's what I say....

But, hey, seems there's folks over at the I quit thread who is suggesteratin' that Little Hawk has somethin' to do wid Martin... M ight even be Martin, 'er vice veras...

Now wouldn'd that be somethin'? Sho nuff would....

Be like the kidnappin' of o' the Limberger baby 'er Deep Throat... Sho nuff would...

Fact stranger than fiction...

Bobert

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 11:01 PM

As I declared .... MG will be missed. Seems no one can let go of him.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 12:54 PM

Some people can't let go of hemmorhoids either...

It's an anal-retentive problem.

Now here's the latest hot rumour: Chongo Chimp = Clinton Hammond (!)

I wouldn't put much stock in it, but it certainly sounds intriguing, doesn't it?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 01:32 PM

as james thurber wittily remarked, Who Cares Who Killed Roger Ackroyd?

Monsieur le Docteur you are zee murderer....!

ma fois!

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 04:36 PM

" Now here's the latest hot rumour: Chongo Chimp = Clinton Hammond (!)"

Hmmmmmmmm   .... I think I'm gonna think on that one.

Thanks for that tip LH.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Donuel
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 05:28 PM

Many of us have a habit of mispelling a word due to hand motion memory at the keyboard and not because we do not know the correct spelling. One word my hand types by mistake is maight instead of might.

When you compare the MG spelling abnormalities with little hawk what you get is a significant match for words, sentence style and spacing.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 05:33 PM

Sorry, but I got better things to do than spend hours upon hours analysing each letter and sentance structure on each post from LH, and MG.

Jeeezuz, they might just have the crappy IBM keyboards that I have.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Joe Offer
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 06:01 PM

Did you ever hear Martin Gibson talk about William Shatner?

Well, did you?

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 07:13 PM

He said one or two sarcastic and very disrespectful things about William Shatner, but mostly he ignored him. Despicable! I can't abide people who ignore William Shatner. I rest my case.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 08:22 PM

Hands up anyone round here who hasn't said anything disrespectful, sarcastic or rude about Shatner...

And you never know, Doneul might be a proofreader or something.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 08:30 PM

I am no big fan of Gibson guitars, which is another point worth considering. Not that I don't think they're fairly good...I just don't like them much for some reason. Martins I do like, mostly. Gibsons sound too twangy and they don't feel right. Be that as it may, I have a Ron Belanger guitar now that I like better than either Martins or Gibsons.

Now, let's discuss penguins. That's always fun.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 08:30 PM

I maight never have said something nasty about Shanter. I can't really remeber.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 09:55 PM

Ah find that mah memory deterriorrrates exponentially as I lapse intae Scot'tish dialect...

Och, how ah love the glot'tal stop!

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 10:38 PM

Actually .. that's a pretty bad accent there LH !

But ya tried ... I think.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST,.gargoylei\
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 12:05 AM

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 12:13 AM

See you in October.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Matt_R
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 03:41 AM

I've been accused of being several Mudcatters before, most of them female.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 07:29 AM

Yes, I was accused of that too, Matt. I have not been accused of being Karl Rove yet, though, and for that I am thankful.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Kim C
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:17 PM

I am Napoleon.

Matt, holy mackerel, where you been?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Wolfgang
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:33 PM

Who is missing too since MG has left ('missing' sounds like a euphemism)? Shambles.

He has told us repeatedly that if we just ignored posts they would not exist ofr us. In the persona of MG he has done the ultimate test his own theory on Mudcatters and has seen it fail. The screams for censorship are getting even louder.

Wolfgang (no, I'm not serious)

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 07:20 PM

Good, cos I got a really good chuckle out of that one, Wolfgang...

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 07:21 PM

OK, you're talking English again. Back to normal. Whew.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 12:45 PM

I thought we settled it.....
the Earl of Clarence, maybe Walter Sickert, William Gull, MJ Druitt or as you Little Hawk.

Gotta be one of them....

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 01:29 PM

Having not looked in on this thread previously, and given the subject matter and the very special self-selection of participants, I very nearly did not notice that continuity was somewhat amiss.

Numbering the posts as shown in the "header list," and sorting by the date/time shown there for each posting, the sequence in which individual postings appeared – as listed for my most recent opening of this thread - is:

6 – 8, 1, 9 – 15, 19, 16 – 18, 20, 25, 21, 26 – 29, 22 – 23, 30, 24, 2 – 5, 32, 42 -43, 36, 44, 33 – 35, 37 – 41, 45 – 50, 31, 54 – 55, 51 – 53, 58, 56 – 57, 60, 59, 61, 65, 62, 66, 63, 67, 68, 71, 73 – 75, 79, 76 – 77, 80 – 81, 84 – 85, 72, 86 – 87, 78, 82, 88 – 89, 83, 90 – 92, 94, 95, 64, 69 – 70, 96, 93, 97 – 103, 105, 104, 106, 108, 107, 109 -118, 120 -130, 119, 133 – 134, 131 – 132, 135 – 139

As the "earliest" posts (#6, by Little Hawk and #7 by Bee-dubya-ell) make reference to a previous comment apparently by Bobert, the original "first post" appears to be missing. It obviously is not reasonable – based solely on comments in the posts – to state with certainty whether additional individual posts may have been lost.

This is entirely of academic interest, as those who've "been here" will likely remember what was in earlier posts, and "new" posters hardly ever read more than the last 1.3 posts before entering their own comments (an untested, but believed reliable observation).

I'd go back and read the thread in order, but I don't think I really want to know...

John

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 01:53 PM

Very good analysis work there JohnInKansas. Did you develop software specifically for this or did you use the good old paper and pencil method. But maybe you have one of those old Enigma machines?

Hmmmmmm .... now if I could understand what it all means.

Regardless first rate effort!

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 04:46 PM

a beautiful mind.....

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 05:29 PM

Great John from work Kansas. Was as I it reading, stuck it that me clearer nothing be could.

Day great a have.

MB

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 09:55 PM

The hard part was recognizing that somethin' was out of order - and it wasn't just the normal disconnected blither.

A simple Table|Sort in Word does it (with a couple of proprietary secret tricks); but putting it back into the database would be somethin' else. Unfortunately, quite a few threads seem to have similar disorder.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Bobert
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 11:12 PM

So, John in Kansas, yer verdict on LH bein' the "Deep Throat" of Mudville?

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 18 Jun 05 - 11:31 PM

JohnInKansas .... I was sitting here thinking the same thing. Thanks for the verification.

Keep up the good work! Anticipating further results.

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 05:56 AM

I've posted some other comment at BS: Forum postings are OUT OF ORDER Date: 19 Jun 05 - 04:07 AM and the subsequent (3 posts later) 19 Jun 05 - 05:38 AM.

A quick sort on the first 20 threads at the top a bit ago showed 5 of the 20 out of order. Longer (more posts) threads seem most affected.

If you check the list of posts at the top of each thread page, it's pretty easy to spot the "next nearest" when something doesn't make sense. For most 'cat threads, the post order isn't too critical to as much understanding as we're likely to get.

There do seem to be some missing posts, and I don't have much of a way to look at whether there are enough of them to be significant.

And even after sorting, I can't make enough sense of this thread to guess who "deep funk" might have been.

John

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Wolfgang
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 08:15 AM

Have you notived how some posters' posts never seem to be out of order even if they are (trusting the date)? One notorious example are MG's outbreaks. Knowing him they fit at any place of any thread, except of course the first place.

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: number 6
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 08:21 AM

I think you're certainly getting somewhere JohnInKansas.

again, I will be here greatly anticipating further results.

What would we ever do without you!

sIx

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Little Hawk
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 06:15 PM

Some have suggested that I AM William Shatner. I only WISH it were true! (sigh....)

However, here is a truly startling revelation: I am the soul of William Shakespeare. Yes! I have reincarnated in a fresh, new body, that's all. I was also Mata Hari (screwed up badly that time...but did have some real fun before it was all over). I would like to have been either Cleopatra OR Mark Antony, but wasn't. I was a lowly Egyptian rug merchant that time, called Ahmed. I also sold used camels and hasheesh on the side.

Subject: RE: BS: Martin Gibson=Little Hawk
From: Peace
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 06:19 PM

"I also sold used camels and hasheesh on the side."

MY GAWD!