BS: Lucky Charms

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 06:08 PM

It is true that thoughts are things, in a way, but not the things their semantic content represents. That's the definition of superstition. Thoughts are pictures of real or imagined states of existence, unexistence, conditions, and so on -- but imagining the earth with a cloud of sevens floating around it is not going to make the number seven any luckier per se. It is possible that the act of putting up such a picture will focus your own intentions sufficiently to make you more lucky, but that has nothing to do with the inherent qualities of sevens. It has, instead, to do with the abililty of your intentions to operate on the people and things around you. For most folks this ability is a pretty hit-or-miss thing.

Just like sevens.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 05:11 PM

Firecat, when your new lucky charm shaped like a gold Japanese cat brings you riches, please don't forget to send some Mudcat's way!

And check out the "coincidences" of all those "cats"!

****

Positive vibrations,

Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Firecat
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 04:56 PM

I've just got a new one. It's a gold Japanese lucky cat, which is meant to bring riches. I'll let you know if it works!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Firecat
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 04:32 PM

Nigel:

Get a butterfly tattoo, it'll be one less thing to remember!

I would, but I'm terrified of needles! And I'd get killed by the parents, even though I'm 21!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 04:24 PM

"The Illuminatus! Trilogy"

Ya... good fiction... but it's FICTION!

LOL

Timmothy Leary said of it, "More important than 'Ulysses' or 'Finnegans Wake'", for whatever that's worth...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 03:07 PM

Oh no! You had a defective 4 leaf clover...

Too bad.

But maybe this was a good thing as it forced you to show how well you act under pressure.

I hope you get the job!


Ms. Azizi

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 21 Apr 05 - 03:00 PM

I had a very important lesson presentation to do today and tucked a four leaf clover into my laptop bag - damn thing froze half way through - never happened before in class! Observer tried to put me at my ease by saying 'there are three things you can rely on, birth, death and ICT letting you down' Wonder if I got the job!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: GUEST,Clint Keller
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:47 PM

haven't read the trilogy for a long time but I don't think that 5 or 23 is used as the devil's number. I believe he's playng with the Discordian rule that anything can be shown to have some relation to the number 5 (or 23) if you work hard enough. Frinstance "Azizi" has 5 letters: 2 consonants & 3 vowels.

It's a good book.

clint

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 09:51 AM

Davetnova:

See this review:

"The Illuminatus! Trilogy is a series of three novels written by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson. The series is a post-modern science fiction-influenced drug- and sex-laden trek through a number of conspiracy theories, both historical and imaginary, which hinge around the authors' version of the Illuminati. The narrative often switches between third and first person, and jumps around in time. The three books that comprise the trilogy are The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden Apple and Leviathan. The trilogy won the Prometheus Hall of Fame Award in 1986."

Here's more including the plot endings:
Wikipedia Summary of Trilogy

I haven't read this book yet but some online discussion of it suggests that the number 5 pr 23 {2+3=5} was used in the book as the devil's number...

I don't think that any number or any series of numbers is inherently evil. However, I will confess that I asked for another phone number when I was given one with a series of sixes in it..
And I was told that quite a few other people who had been given such phone numbers had asked for them to be changed.

So, who knows?...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Davetnova
Date: 20 Apr 05 - 02:56 AM

Azizi - Many years ago, I read a trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson and someone else whose name I can't remember, the Illuminati Trilogy, At one point there is a section of the book that brings the number 23 into focus. At this point in my reading and for several months afterwards 23's were everywhere. Everywhere I had to go had a 23 somewhere, every phone number I was given - guess. I'm still not sure what happened but this type of focusing on numbers does happen and does somehow make them jump out at us.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:33 PM

Good... bad... whatever... it's summed up in 'sh!t happens'

"My guard stood hard when abstract threats
Too noble to neglect
Deceived me into thinking
I had something to protect
Good and bad, I define these terms
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now."

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:30 PM

I don't suppose I have to point out that 'oncept'='concept'.

But I did anyway.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:27 PM

and sometimes good happens too.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:22 PM

"I accept the oncept of synchronicity."

Seems like a whole lot of blather to explain that sh!t happens...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Deckman
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:04 PM

Every day I wear a Sampo. Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 04:00 PM

And I appreciate your answer.

But along with Carl Jung, and countless others, I accept the oncept of synchronicity.

Carl Jung
"coined the term synchronicity to describe what he called the "acausal connecting principle" that links mind and matter. He said this underlying connectedness manifests itself through meaningful coincidences that cannot be explained by cause and effect. Such synchronicities occur, he theorized, when a strong need arises in the psyche of an individual. He described three types that he had observed: the coinciding of a thought or feeling with an outside event; a dream, vision or premonition of something that then happens in the future; and a dream or vision that coincides with an event occurring at a distance. No one has come up with a definition that has superceded his, although there has been debate on whether events linked to precognition and clairvoyance should be included as synchronicity.

Some scientists see a theoretical grounding for synchronicity in quantum physics, fractal geometry, and chaos theory. They are finding that the isolation and separation of objects from each other is more apparent than real; at deeper levels, everything -- atoms, cells, molecules, plants, animals, people -- participates in a sensitive, flowing web of information. Physicists have shown, for example, that if two photons are separated, no matter by how far, a change in one creates a simultaneous change in the other."
-snip-

For those who are interested, here's more:

What is Synchroncity?

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 03:35 PM

" Does the concept of "blessings" work better for you?
In other words, is there no room in your philosophy for things happening to you [and to others] as a result of positive Outside Intervention?"

Blessing is even sillier...

Outside Intervention? Outside of what??? Fortuitous happenstance... and timing maybe... Yer walking down a deserted alley and lose a dollar... I'm the next one down that alley and I find that dollar...   No luck... no blessing... no Outside Intervention... Just chance... Stupid blind chance...

It's what gets me through more games of darts than I care to number


hey... you asked...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 03:16 PM

Ok.. By "numberology" I meant "numerology".

Will this be posted at 3:17PM?

Maybe...

and maybe not.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 03:14 PM

On topic:

Remember I said that my lucky number was 17?

Well I went to the dentist today and guess what his room number was?

711 {which in numberology comes out to a 9, but still it includes the number 17}.

And when I finished at the dentist and got back in my car it was 1:17 PM.

This kind of number coincidences happens to me alot.

Maybe I notice it because I'm looking for it.

Maybe it means something-something good.

Hey, I'll take good news however it comes.

Now, I could just wait a little longer to hit the submit button until it's 3:17PM..but that would be cheating..and I don't cheat..

but on the other hand...



Naw...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From:
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 02:55 PM

OT to Sinsull--I found a copy of 3 Folk Sing..contact [e-mail]

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: mack/misophist
Date: 19 Apr 05 - 02:54 PM

I carry a 1963 Mexican Morales Peso. It's a little bigger than a silver dollar. It's more what they used to call a mascot than a lucky piece.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Jos
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:26 PM

I've lived in England for most of the last half century and I didn't know what Mr red meant by 1 GBP. But maybe he hasn't got a £ on his keyboard and so had to improvise.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 10:16 AM

The United State Mint

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: open mike
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 10:10 AM

i was thinking that the u.s. dollar coin waas not actually round,
but had edges on the edges. i went to this site to find out, and
still do not know, but there is a puzzle with the Sacajawea coin
issued in 2004.
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/index.cfm?flash=yes&action=golden_dollar_coin

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 09:02 AM

My grandfather carried a chestnut around in his trouser pocket as a charm against rheumatism, from WWI until he died in 1958.
Not always the same chestnut, he changed it in fall.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: LilyFestre
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 08:41 AM

I carry around a small malachite rock....I'm not sure if I consider it a lucky charm or not but it does make me feel good knowing that it's there. Weird, I know.

I DO know that the number 10 is BAD BAD BAD news for me. I could make a list..maybe later today I will, but it seems, for me, that 10 is a bad omen.

I'm partial to the number 4!   :)

ML

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 08:35 AM

Thanks for that info, Davetnova.

So the British pound is round and metallic? Like the USA silver dollar coin ?

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Tinker
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 07:14 AM

Angel on My Shoulder is actually already posted.... (Much to my surprise) The 45 was given to me by a babysitter and I remember playing it over and over til I could sing it word for word. Actually much to my amazement I still can after all these years.

tinker

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Davetnova
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 07:04 AM

one Greast British Pound (monetary unit)Cost of a lottery ticket

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:50 AM

GUEST,Mr Red

Maybe I should leave well enough alone, but Guest Mr. Red, I didn't get your punch line.

You wrote:

"I have a collection of 4 leaf clovers - so where is my winning lottery ticket? I know, I know. Still in my pocket, it's round, metallic and it's number is 1 GBP."

So my question to you is what is the significance of "1 GBP?"
Is this an UK thing? Is it like an army ID tag?

I hate it when I don't get a joke because I can't understand the punch line.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:42 AM

ClintonHammond

You said "In my experience, there's no such thing as luck."

Does the concept of "blessings" work better for you?

In other words, is there no room in your philosophy for things happening to you [and to others] as a result of positive Outside Intervention?

I'm just curious about your response.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:38 AM

Well the 17th of this month has come and gone and I just wanted to report that it was as wonderful a day for me as I knew it would be.

I've read that 'thoughts are things' so maybe it was partly my expecting the day to be great that made it so. Or {and?} maybe it was because the number '17' does have a fortunate vibration for me.

More research is needed. I probably should plan to document how I feel after each '17' day of my life. But over time, I'll probably forget to do that. And besides, recording my general feeling state and what happened on those days doesn't address the wish fulfillment factor that might be operating then.

Okay. I'll forget the research and just enjoy the 17th of every month.

And, in any case, starting with today, I'll begin each day with the thought that

"Today is the day that the Lord has made
Let us rejoice and be glad in it."

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 06:38 AM

Takes a bit of pluck to go anywhere without it!

I have a collection of 4 leaf clovers - so where is my winning lottery ticket?

I know, I know. Still in my pocket, it's round, metallic and it's number is 1 GBP.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Davetnova
Date: 18 Apr 05 - 05:53 AM

I have a lucky eyebrow. I never go anywhere without it.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 08:26 PM

I was going to buy a Lucky Rabbit's Foot, but then I realised that the Rabbit had four of them, and it obviously didn't do him much good!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 06:55 PM

Chip2447,

I appreciate that information. This is why I like Mudcat. I learn so many interesting things! I actually have an ocarina from Peru but
I didn't know what it was called.

And as for the story of your name-I love it!

I learned to read in school with the Dick & Jane series of books. And for some reason I remember the story of their little sister Baby
Sally getting lost and a kindly policeman found her and asked her her name. She said "Sally Sally". Of course, the policeman took Baby Sally to the police station and bought her an ice cream cone. And of course her mother and father came shortly thereafter to get her.

And everything ended happily ever after.

Why they hadn't taught Baby Sally her last name and her phone number and address I don't know.

Funny the things we remember.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: SINSULL
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 04:56 PM

I wear a gold chain bought for over $1000 when I was broke and depressed over the theft of all my family jewelry. It took almost a year before I could walk by a jewelry store or display without tearing up. Once I let go of the anger and pain I was ready for a new chain.

On it is a crystal given to me by a friend. The only time it was off my neck was during an X-ray and surgery and once when the chain broke.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: GUEST,chip2447
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 03:49 PM

Azizi, ocarinas are small globular, vessel flutes usually made of clay. They are some of the oldest instruments known to man, having been found in Asia, Africa, South America.Depending on the construction they may have 4,5,6 or 10 holes, and are capable of at least one octave.

click here

As for the numbers with my name. When I first joined Mudcat there was another Chip who had joined just before I got here. So I chose Chip2447 as my screen name, 2447 spelling out Chip on an American telephone keypad. Therefore, I'm ChipChip, the Chip so nice I named myself twice.

Chip2447

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 03:01 PM

In my experience, there's no such thing as luck.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 02:51 PM

Firecat:

Get a butterfly tattoo, it'll be one less thing to remember!

CHEERS

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Firecat
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 02:35 PM

I always wear three rings, never any more, never any less. I usually also wear a necklace my friend Becky gave me and a bracelet my friend Stacey gave me, but I haven't got them on at the moment. And I'm never without a butterfly somewhere on my person!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: catspaw49
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:56 AM

Lucky Charms? Well, I'm told they're magically delicious. Outside of that I don't know a damn thing............

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: JennyO
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 10:52 AM

Of course they don't have to do that now - at least not here in Oz, where everything is rounded up or down by 5c. So if something costs $9.99, you pay $10 anyway.

I have noticed certain numbers recurring in the street numbers I have lived at. I have lived at 22 different addresses in my life, with a preponderance of ones, threes, fours and nines - I have never had a zero, a five, a six or an eight in any of the places I have lived, and have only in the last 5 years had any twos. The last place I lived was no. 92, and I moved to no. 29 a couple of years ago.

In spite of the lack of eights, I consider that to be a lucky number for me too, Azizi - I don't know why.

Jenny

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Jos
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 09:46 AM

I heard that the 99 in prices was introduced by a shop owner who didn't trust his staff. It meant that the shop assistant had to open the till to take out the change, and so couldn't just pocket the money without the sale being recorded.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Rapparee
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 09:37 AM

My cousin Don, as far as I know, still wears a (deactivated) AK-47 round around his neck. When a VC fired at Don the bullet didn't go off, even thought the primer was dented. Don's bullets did work. Don considered the AK round very lucky indeed, for him.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 09:33 AM

The annoying thing about that tactic is my Flybuys accumulate in $5 lumps - so that last $4.95 or $4.00 loses a point. I'm sure they thought of that...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 09:22 AM

99 in prices is a marketing tactic to make people feel they are not spending as much as they would be with the 1 cent or 1 dollar aded-- that to most people (based on market research), $4,999 FEELS to them like a LOT less than $5,000.... that the difference feels like much more than a dollar. And it works. It isn't logical but people in buying mode so seldom are, statistically. Other marketing tactics that work on a wide scale are using words like NEW and IMPROVED, SAVE, and NOW YOU CAN [insert supposed product benefit]. So it isn't a number thing, as much as a way of playing on buyers' fever and the desire to feel one can get something for nothing or, at least, less than full price.

I wrote ad copy in one of my past lives, and there are actually ad-copy-writing manuals that cover all this.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:58 AM

So does 7:57AM.

But 7:58AM, sorry that vibe doesn't flow for me like those others do.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:57 AM

Okay..7:56AM works too.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky Charms
From: Azizi
Date: 17 Apr 05 - 07:56 AM

Laura and I are kindred spirits..and I'm writing this at 7:55AM!!